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Obama Didn't Cave on the HHS Mandate; He's Making an Unprecedented Power Grab
Rush ^ | February 10, 2012 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 02/10/2012 11:13:55 AM PST by Kaslin


RUSH: Everybody's reporting that Obama's caving on this mandate that the Catholic services provide abortion and all. There's not a cave here! There may be an accommodation, but there's no big cave-in here. It's still the government mandating this stuff happen. They're just changing the provider. It's not done by the church. He says he gave them a way out of it by mandating the insurance companies do it, but that's not the point here.

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So everywhere I'm reading that Obama is caving on the mandate in Obamacare that Catholic churches -- well, not churches, but the schools and hospitals are mandated to provide contraceptives and abortion-related services that they religiously disagree with. "What's happened here is that Obama's caved! He has seen, he has heard, and now he's gonna shift that burden to the insurance companies!" Now, there are a bunch of stories today -- that one and another one involving a woman getting on an airplane, trying to get on an airplane to fly to Denver who was not permitted to get on an airplane because there were no female TSA agents to pat her down. None were on board.

She even said (paraphrased), "Look, I'll wave it. I'll let a guy pat me down. I need to get to Denver." They said, "Nope, not gonna have any of that. You have to take a different flight on a different day." It's a small down, small airport, not a whole lot of flights. And her reaction is instructive. My point here is, ladies and gentlemen, we are losing freedom and liberty inch by inch. It's not being taken -- well, in some cases it is, but in most cases it's not being taken from us in giant grabs. It's little by little by little such that people don't even see it. It doesn't even register. Let me start with the AP version of the Obama story. "Retreating in the face of a political uproar, President Barack Obama on Friday will announce that religious..."

He's supposed to do it in five or six minutes now, right in the middle of this program. President Obama "on Friday will announce that religious employers will not have to cover birth control for their employees after all, The Associated Press has learned. The administration instead will demand that insurance companies will be the ones directly responsible for providing free contraception." And we're supposed to applaud this? We're supposed to think that we have emerged with a big victory here? Obama can mandate that we buy insurance, and now Obama can mandate what insurance companies must offer -- and after mandating what insurance companies must offer, then Obama can mandate what insurance companies can charge for it?

Freedom doesn't mean anything to this guy! Freedom doesn't mean anything to this regime or this administration. To me, this is breathtaking. This is an incredible sight to behold here. So Obama is said to "offer a compromise proposal that is respectful of religious concerns," and everybody's applauding today. Now, look at this. The right to religious liberty in this context is unequivocal in our country and in the Constitution. It's right there in the Bill of Rights. Since when does a president have the power to threaten to issue a rule gutting religious liberty? That's the first thing. And, by the way, I don't think any of this a mistake.

I don't think this religious kerfuffle is something that they overreached on. I think roiling this country and distracting people, setting up these extreme things like this and then walking them back to create the illusion, "Okay, you know what? We're not gonna take your freedom," it's all BS, folks. And this is being spun in such a way to make it look like the winners are winning and the losers are losing, and they're not. The First Amendment -- the Bill of Rights of the Constitution -- explicitly says that government shall have nothing to do with religion. You hear, do you not, the left constantly caterwauling, whining and moaning about "separation of church and state"?

When do they do that? Whenever a religious Republican or conservative seeks political office! They start worry about "the imposition of religious moral values on people," and say, "This is untolerable! This is intolerable. It's not permitted! It's a violation of the Constitution." So the left hates the Constitution when it's an impediment to what they want to do. When it supports what they want to do, they're the biggest constitutionalists in the world. So they're all concerned about separation of church and state? No, they're not! They are opposed to opposition. They will do anything to defeat opposition, and if the Constitution is in opposition to them, they'll do whatever they have to do there.

So here we have again from the top: Obama's gonna offer a compromise proposal said to be respectful of religious concerns. He started this. He started it by demanding that Catholic organizations provide birth control and other abortion-related services. That's unconstitutional. He cannot do it. There is an appropriate uproar. The regime says, "Okay, we'll walk it back and then we'll make the insurance companies do it." He's still getting everything he wants! He's getting mandated federal funding of abortion services -- and in the process, trampling all over the Constitution. The right to religious liberty in this context is unequivocal in our country. It's in the Constituiton!

Since when...? I'm gonna ask this again: Since when does a president have the power to threaten to issue a rule gutting religious liberty and then claims the power to make compromises on that issue? This is how, folks, we lose our liberty. This is how we lose the Constitution. The suggestion that Obama has the power to alter that which he doesn't have the power to do in the first place, is simply unacceptable. The first thing he does he doesn't have the power to do. He doesn't have, constitutionally, the power to mandate that religious organizations provide -- free of charge or otherwise -- any abortion-related service with which they disagree. He doesn't have the authority. Then to supposedly correct 1931, he then engages in more authority that he doesn't have!

"Okay, tell you what: I'll tell the churches they don't have to do it." It's none of his business what the churches do! He doesn't have the authority to do any of this. The very idea that Barack Obama has the power to alter that which he doesn't have the power to do in the first place? This is two exercises of power he doesn't have. The first exercise is telling the churches what they have to do. The second exercise of power is then changing what he told the churches they have to do. There's no compromise, no negotiation. There's no phony balance here. Obama is simply not empowered to interfere with religious liberty. No president is!

It's not no different than recess appointments when not in recess. There's no "compromise" in his "compromise" here. It's all BS. And the media is perfectly willing to support the notion of Obama having dictatorial powers now because they support them. But this is how, folks, the public is dumbed down. This is how he just hacks away at the First Amendment. Then, after there's an uproar, said to be compromising his position when in fact the First Amendment's being destroyed with both moves, with both efforts here!. So his effort to make people think he's compromising and caving is working. The press is reporting that. I even had friends of mine say, "Hey, we beat this back!" We didn't beat anything back. In fact, it's far more complicated than what is actually being reported.

Somebody in the White House has been leaking to the media all morning about what Obama's gonna do. It involves the Hawaii rules. It really is far more complicated here, the change, than is being report. The second example of this that I want to cite is this little story about a woman who wanted to fly to Denver. She just wanted to get on an airplane and go to Denver. That's all that mattered to her. "A Denver woman claims she couldn’t board a flight from Wyoming to Denver because of her gender. Jennifer Winning makes the flight from the small airport of Rock Springs, WY to Denver often, but on January 29th it was different.

"'They wouldn't let me get on the plane because I'm female,' Winning said. She said she checked in and arrived at security about 35 minutes before the scheduled departure of her United flight. 'They asked if I was on the flight to Denver, I said yes, they said that they couldn't screen me because they sent all the female TSA agents home,' Winning said. A female agent was necessary because of the new security pat-downs. 'I said, 'Would you be willing to let me sign a waiver and I would approve for a man to pat me down if necessary?' and they said no,' she said. Winning missed her flight and wound up renting a car for $165 and driving the roughly 350 miles back to Denver. She said she’s getting over her anger, but thinks the policies need to be clearer."

Now, I don't know how that story hits you, but I'll tell you how it it's me. Here we have an American citizen in Rock Springs, Wyoming, who wants to get on a flight to Denver that she takes frequently. And there's no female TSA agent there. So she's told she can't get on the airplane. She's an American, she's not a security risk, she never has been. She can't get on the airplane. She offers to sign a waiver. Look at the freedom this woman readily surrendered. What is she mad about? She's not mad at the encroachment in her daily life by the federal government via the TSA. She's doesn't seem to be all bothered by that. What she's mad about was that they sent all the female agents home.

This is how we lose our freedom! I don't blame her for being mad but she doesn't see the big picket. She passively accepts the premise that the government can easily tell her she can't get on an airplane. Despite no evidence that she intends any farm, despite no track record that she's ever been a problem on this flight. She's a semi-regular on this flight. So she passively accepts the idea that the simple fact that there no female TSA agents means she can't fly, that's what she gets mad about. Not at the fact that the federal government has encroached so much over her individual liberty and freedom.

And I submit to you that this is how we end up losing it, slowly but surely and in ways that people don't even recognize, in ways that people don't even see it. And during all of this, we have to listen to the media and we have to listen to the president and the Democrats tell us that we're the party of "no" and that they are the party that liberates people. And we're the ones, the old-fashioned conservatives, we want to deny people a good time, we want to deny people fun, we want to deny people all these things in life. So we have yet another example of life in America under the thumb of an ever-expanding state with central planning, otherwise known as "well-intentioned liberalism."

From violating religious rights where there is no power permitted to do so, to mandating the purchase of products, to now mandating insurance companies sell certain products at a price that's also mandated -- from czars to denying the right to travel -- it's all here. We're living in a country that's becoming unrecognizable! Who is the party of "no"? Want to throw a football in a public beach? It's the Democrats that say "no!" Can you believe it? You can't throw a football or a Frisbee on a beach in Los Angeles County, only a volleyball! Why? Did somebody get hit? Why can't you throw a football on a beach? Or a Frisbee, for crying out loud?

Who's the party of "no"? You want to exercise your religious rights, provide health insurance to employees that respect those rights? Democrats say, "No, you can't do that!" You want to buy a health insurance policy when you want buy it? No! Democrats say, "You can't do that." You want your government to operate on a budget. The Democrats laugh at you and say, "We don't need no stinkin' budget. Wait 'til Republicans are in charge of and then we'll need a budget." You want to flatten the tax code, get rid of the crony capitalism, Democrats say, "No, we're not gonna give people more access to their hard-earned money!"

You want to reform entitlements that are eating away your kids' and grandkids' future? Democrats say, "No, we can't touch any of that!" You want to become energy independent using America's natural resources and the resources of an ally that borders our country with a pipeline, bringing much-needed oil right to our Gulf of Mexico? Nope, can't do it! Democrats say, "No." And we're "the party of 'no'"? We're the party trampling on people's liberties? Want to travel freely about the country? Democrats say, "No." You want the border tightened and shut down so that people cannot get in here illegally? No! The Democrats say, "No." You're the governor of a state that tries to enforce federal immigration laws? Democrats say, "No," and the President sues that state and the governor of that state!

Now, the Republicans want to privatize the Transportation Security Authority, the TSA, and Democrats say, "No! You can't do that. We gotta keep this in the hands of our union buddies." So each and every day, little by little, Barack Obama tramples on the Constitution, usurps authority that he doesn't have, in the midst of an uproar. He might surrender a little bit of it where everybody thinks that they're winning and they beat back the ugly collectivist, when in fact the collectivist and the central planner has solidified his claim to power that he doesn't have over the Constitution. He's out there saying (paraphrased), "Yeah, I never saw this as a political issue. This mandate, health insurance mandate on Catholic Churches and abortion, I never saw it as a political issue. No, no, no way!"

So the insurance company is now gonna have to give out free contraception. The insurance company is gonna have give out free abortion pills. And, by the way, it isn't gonna be free. So no religious organizations will have to pay for the coverage now. But somebody's gonna have to. It's being mandated. And somebody's gonna have to make it available. It's being mandated. And somebody's gonna have to pay for it. Whether they see it's free to the end user or not, it's never free to the end user. He's not taking any questions about this.


RUSH: So after the president speaks... I just got a note, by the way, that in St. Louis they cut out of the program and carried the president. That mighta happened at other affiliates, too, in which case you people missed (laughing) a grand-slam home run. I don't know that I should try to repeat it here. It'll come up. It'll be woven in as the program unfolds, what you missed. I was basically responding to the president. I didn't need to hear what he's saying. I know what he's doing. He is usurping constitutional authority he does not have. There's no "compromise" here. The president didn't cave. He's not giving anything back. The evidence is on MSNBC, they immediately went to a spokeswoman for Planned Parenthood -- who's delighted!

The Planned Parenthood babe, person was delighted, and why shouldn't she be? Because, guess what now's been codified? Insurance companies have to pay for birth control and abortions! This is a huge achievement for Obama. This is a major accomplishment. Doesn't matter to him if, okay, the churches don't have to but now the insurance companies do. Birth control and abortion pills have just become a right! This entire health care plan is unconstitutional based on that mandate that requires everybody to buy insurance or pay a fine if they don't. That renders this whole thing unconstitutional, I don't care what the Supreme Court says. But now look what's happened. While everybody's celebrating here Obama "caving," he has just succeeded in mandating, in telling... He does not have the right to tell insurance companies what to sell. He doesn't have the constitutional authority to tell 'em what to charge for it. He just did, and people are out there applauding, like Planned Parenthood.


RUSH: Let me tell you what's just happened here. The regime, Barack Hussein Obama... I don't know how many of you people think Obama caved. I'm simply reacting. I got a bunch of e-mails, "Hey, Rush, we won, man! We won! Obama caved." He didn't cave on anything. That's what I'm reacting to here. All that's happened here... The Obama regime, they didn't see they don't have the power to force the Catholic Church to give up its religious views. They just said, "You know what? We changed our mind. We're not gonna make the Catholic Church do it. We're gonna make the insurance companies do it."

Big win. Biiiig win. Right. "We're not gonna make the Catholic Church, right now, 'cause you people don't quite understand. So, okay, we're not gonna make the Catholic Church give out abortion stuff but we'll make the insurance companies do it." So now people who oppose abortion pills are going to be paying for them. Do you think the insurance companies gonna reach into their personal back pockets and pick up the charges for this? Insurance premiums are gonna go up to cover the increased cost associated with Barack Obama, the president of the United States, telling them: What they have to sell, what they have to include, what they have to cover. The president of the United States has just told the insurance companies, "You know what? I changed my mind.

"I'm not gonna make the church do this, I'm gonna make you do it." They say, "Okay, fine." The insurance companies, they don't have a beef about anything, so they'll just raise their premiums. So Obama now mandating that private companies charge other citizens for the cost of abortion pill. This unprecedented as far as I know. It's completely unprecedented. And don't for a minute think that the administration has given up trying to tell the Catholic Church what it will and won't do. That'll come later. They'll come back for a further bite of the apple. They'll do something. I also got a note (snidely), "Well, Rush, okay, the woman who wanted to fly to Denver, we can't do anything to TSA. What do we do? You sound like you want that woman..."

Yeah, I want that woman to wake up and become part of the army that votes against Democrats. That's what I want. I'm not suggesting the woman stand up and get into a fight with the TSA. That's not what I'm talking about. My whole point here is that people are having freedom and liberty taken away in a ways they don't even see. This woman in Denver, she's upset, but at the wrong thing. She's accepted the premise that the government can tell her she can and can't get on an airplane if there aren't any female TSA agents around. Her anger is that they wouldn't let a male pat her down or they wouldn't going to do a female and bring her back to work to pat her down. That's what she was mad about.

I'm not complaining at her by any means. I'm hoping that people dig a little deeper and figure out what is happening to everyday liberty and freedom and realize who's responsible for taking it away from you -- it's the Democrat Party and Barack Obama -- and vote against them. I've always said this program takes place in the reason of ideas. What we want, the way we effect -- in my mind -- meaningful, lasting, substantive change is an informed electorate voting and changing the course of history. That's, if there is an autobiography here above and beyond satisfying the radio business requirements for success, it would be that. I'm not trying to tell some woman to get into an argument with TSA people. That isn't gonna go anywhere. That's not gonna accomplish anything. There's a much larger issue out there.

I want to spend a little time, not much, on what Obama just did here. And I first saw this being alluded to in a flash report by our old buddy Jacob Tapper at ABC News. And Jacob's story was headlined: "White House to Announce Accommodation for Religious Organizations on Contraception Rule -- With the White House under fire for its new rule requiring employers including religious organizations to offer health insurance that fully covers birth control coverage, ABC News has learned," because the White House called them, "President Obama will announce an attempt to accommodate these religious groups. The move, based on state models..." That's where the rub of this is.

"The move, based on state models will almost certainly not satisfy bishops and other religious leaders since it will preserve the goal of women employees having their birth control fully covered by health insurance," in a mandate that Obama doesn't have the power to issue. Jacob didn't say that; he never would. I'm throwing that in. "Sources say..." This is Jacob writing here. "Sources say it will be respectful of religious beliefs but will not back off from that goal" of mandating abortion services being provided for in Obamacare. Now, so we go to the AP story on this: "Retreating in the face of a political uproar, President Barack Obama on Friday will announce that religious employers will not have to cover birth control for their employees after all...

"The administration instead will demand that insurance companies will be the ones directly responsible for providing free contraception." Right. Okay. They get it right here. But to say that Obama is retreating? It's not a retreat whatsoever. Obama simply took a sidestep. And then later in the AP story: "By keeping free contraception for employers at religious workplaces -- but providing a different way to do it -- the White House will assert it gave no ground on the basic principle of full preventative care that matters most to Obama." Right. What if I said, "You know, we need to mandate helmets for bicycle riders!" What is it about contraception? What is it about abortion that makes it sacred? Birth control pills, RU-486, what is it that makes this sacred?

It's because that stuff is the sacrament to the religion of liberalism. And then later on in the AP story, it says, "The White House consulted leaders on both sides of the debate to forge a decision. And officials..." These are unnamed officials, by the way. "And officials said Obama has the legal authority to order insurance companies to provide free contraception coverage directly to workers. He will demand it in a new rule." He does not have legal authority! Do you realize, folks, if Barack Obama has the legal authority to order insurance companies to provide free contraception coverage directly to workers, he's got legal authority to demand anything. He's got legal authority to make you go guy a Chevy Volt. He's got legal authority to make you stop voting Republican.

If he's got the legal authority to demand this, he's not bound by any restrictions whatsoever. And the simple fact of the matter is he does not have this authority. He does not have this power. It's the First Amendment, the Bill of Rights. This whole separation of church and state issue? You notice how it's vanished now? Separation of church and state doesn't matter anymore? I think this is outrageous what is happening. Let's go to the audio sound bites. This is Karl Rove last night on Greta Van Susteren. They were talking about this, and she said to him, "First of all, this fight over contraception, it's sort of something we were talking about today and tomorrow, but come November, is this gonna have any impact at all on 2012, or is it a big issue?"

ROVE: It's a big issue. Look, the biggest group of swing voters in the electorate are Catholics. They represent roughly 25% of the electorate. And any presidential election in the modern era, Catholics have tended to go with the winner. Bush won them in 2000, 2004. Obama won 'em in 2008. And it's been thus for decade. So it's beyond me why they're picked this fight. And the president has picked this fight and dug in his heels on it.

RUSH: Yeah, and he's exactly right. He's dug in his heels on it. He's picked it because this is what he wants. He's making a claim for power outside the Constitution, and nobody's stopping him on that. Nobody is challenging the primary premise here, which is that the president of the United States can order employers or insurance companies to provide anything at any price. He doesn't have that authority. I'll tell you something else is gonna happen. Since Obama now here is essentially said, "Okay, you religious bunch? I'll exempt you. In my magnanimity, I'll transfer the burden over to the insurance companies."

So how many employers are now gonna get religion and say that they have a religious opposition? 'Cause they don't want to pay for this. Do you realize what's happened here is that contraception, abortion pills, all of this... It has now been mandated that somebody provide it and pay for it under the notion that it's free. Well, it isn't free. So now the employers are now gonna trying to find a way to off-load it to insurance companies. So they'll get religion faster than you've ever seen anybody get religion. You watch. (interruption) See, Snerdley says, "Why are you against women's health?" That's another thing.

I got a sound bite coming up from a woman talking about the health risks of pregnancy and how abortion is actually medicinal. It is, but that's not new. The e idea that abortion is life-saving, that birth is life-threatening has been a common technique used by the feminazis throughout the last 20, 25 years. This is not new, the idea that you could buy giving childbirth and abortion is the way to save a woman's life. They've tried everything. I'm stunned by this. I really, really am. More Rove, one more spite from Rove. He went on to say he doesn't know why the regime is picked this fight...

ROVE: He is more afraid of Barbara Boxer and the pro-abortion crowd in the Democratic Senate caucus that he visited here in the last day or so, than he is of every cardinal, every bishop -- you know, every priest, every nun, every brother -- in the Catholic Church. His attitude is, "That doesn't matter to me. I just gotta go placate my left-wing allies, the secular left wing; and not worry about, you know, what used to be the bulwark of the Democratic Party, working class Catholic households. They're out."

RUSH: Well, as far as it goes, he's right. But that's not what Obama's doing here. The New York Times had the story before the end of the year last year that "white working-class Americans" are no longer targeted in terms of Obama's reelection. There's a big story. I forget who wrote it but it was a column in the New York Times, and it will come to me who wrote it. Some former Washington Post guy, columnist, who's now big at the Huffing and Puffington Post, wrote this. Was it Dan Balz? I forget who it was. He said that the regime was not interested in "white working-class voters." They said we're not gonna go after those voters. Rove is interpreting it as: Well, we're not gonna go after the Catholic vote.

That's not what's going on here. When Karl says he's more afraid of Barbara Boxer and the pro-abortion caucus, this is what I mean by -- in my humble opinion -- people missing the point. This is where the RNC, the Republican establishment, doesn't quite get what's going on here. Obama is not doing what he's doing to make Barbara Boxer happy or the pro-abortion crowd happy or the Democrat Senate Caucus happy. He knows that's gonna happen. What he's doing is violating the Constitution. He is coalescing extra-constitutional power. He is making a power grab here that is unprecedented in the history of the presidency. (interruption)

Thomas Edsall, that's right. Thomas Edsall wrote that piece in the Nuev Orc Times, former Washington Post columnist. So I don't think... This has been my if you then argument with the Republican establishment from the get-go with Obama. I don't think this is traditional politics at all. I don't think traditional politics has anything to do with why Obama's doing this. This is about fundamentally transforming this country from a representative republic to a pure, straight democracy with the president assuming he's the majority and therefore can do whatever he wants to do. We're not dealing with the average, "Okay, the Democrats won the White House. They're gonna have it for four or eight years. We gotta try to stop 'em however we can and we'll get power back."

There's something unprecedented going on here.

Woodrow Wilson dreamed of this.

FDR dreamed of this.

Obama is doing this.


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To: EEGator

I hope you realize that we only have the House, which can impeach him, but it takes the Senate to remove him from Office. You are delusional if you think that Harry Reid will agree with the Republicans on this

21 posted on 02/10/2012 12:40:46 PM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Lee'sGhost
(Art.) I don't think traditional politics has anything to do with why Obama's doing this.

Obama just pissed all over the Constitution — again.

He isn't "dishonoring" it as much as he is liquidating it, systematically destroying the authority of the Constitution -- to an end.

The end game is, Obama gets his revolution, and all these guys -- the mediabots, Rush, you, me -- go to the death camps.

Ayers said it -- 25,000,000 Americans go away and don't come back. That was when the country's population was 190,000,000. Now it's what, 310,000,000? Adjust for inflation.

This guy Obama is megadeath waiting to happen, waiting to drop the hammer on us. He and his friends are authentic Stalinist Communists, and nobody sees it except Rush, and even he can't say "Communist" because the MSM inoculated Communists long ago, in the McCarthy takedown. Anyone who says "Communist" now is a crank, a McCarthy wannabee, a witch-hunter wannabee in a bad suit and a funny haircut.

But McCarthy was right, and the Reds won.

22 posted on 02/10/2012 12:46:53 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: eCSMaster
...under what law will they be prosecuted?

The law of an "random" IRS tax audit. The guilty till proven innocent type.

23 posted on 02/10/2012 12:49:58 PM PST by DaveyB (Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. -John Adams)
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To: Kaslin

I am well aware that we only have the House. My comment was more along the lines of complaining about the R’s not being more vocal against Obama. I am not delusional, thanks for your concern.

24 posted on 02/10/2012 12:50:13 PM PST by EEGator
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25 posted on 02/10/2012 12:51:27 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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26 posted on 02/10/2012 12:54:11 PM PST by Running On Empty (The three sorriest words: "It's too late")
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To: lentulusgracchus

He sure was right and they sure did win. Communist FDR and all of the rest of them are celebrating in their graves.

27 posted on 02/10/2012 1:00:34 PM PST by Borax Queen
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To: EEGator; Toespi; Kenny Bunk
[Toespi] “Why are the republicans allowing this creep to stay in office?”

They’re scared to be called racist...and they have no cojones.

No, not quite -- unfortunately.

They're letting him rip and run because he's doing their work, too, as was pointed out the other day by FReeper Kenny Bunk.

Obamacare takes private healthcare away -- and gets employer-paid health plans off the balance sheets of thousands of employers. This has been a major goal of top S&P 500 managements for at least five, more like 10-15 years.

So they don't care what else Obamacare does; it reduces their costs.

Second, Obama in office takes the blame for economic underperformance (the only thing RiNO's and Business Wing GOP'ers care about), while the congressional RiNO's quietly guard business interests and work to increase their seats in Congress.

As long as Obama is in office, extending and deepening the Depression, the RiNO's are good with that. They think he'll take the blame.

What is the unseen risk (for them) is that Obama will wind up shooting them all instead. Or maybe he'll only shoot us, and come to an "arrangement" with them. Either way, the S&P captains will be worse off, but they don't see that now; their hubris and cocksure managerial brio blinds them to a possibly very unpleasant outcome.

28 posted on 02/10/2012 1:03:29 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: EEGator; Kaslin
[Gator] My comment was more along the lines of complaining about the R’s not being more vocal against Obama.

Ping to my last.

29 posted on 02/10/2012 1:07:12 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus
"This guy Obama is megadeath waiting to happen, waiting to drop the hammer on us. He and his friends are authentic Stalinist Communists, and nobody sees it except Rush, and even he can't say "Communist" because the MSM inoculated Communists long ago, in the McCarthy takedown. Anyone who says "Communist" now is a crank, a McCarthy wannabee, a witch-hunter wannabee in a bad suit and a funny haircut."

You've been out of the loop:

"...Folks, I don't think any longer it is improper to use the word "communist" to describe Obama, communism to describe his objectives, nor is it wrong to use the word "communist" or "communism" to associate with the trade labor movement, be it the AFL-CIO or the mine workers or the SEIU. I mean they've made it clear, Obama came out of the closet. We called him out. We set the arena. Obama is now playing in our arena, not the Republican Party's arena..." ~ Rush Limbaugh, December 08, 2011

President Obama's Osawatomie Speech was a Marxist Attack on America ~ Rush Limbaugh, December 07, 2011

30 posted on 02/10/2012 1:30:49 PM PST by Matchett-PI ("One party will generally represent the envied, the other the envious. Guess which ones." ~GagdadBob)
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To: Kaslin

Why can’t people just pay for their own stupid birth control??

31 posted on 02/10/2012 1:36:12 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: throwback

The government?

This was a diktat from our new emperor. When does a president get power to make and change law?

32 posted on 02/10/2012 1:38:21 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: loveliberty2

“... It is universally admitted that a well-instructed people alone can be permanently free.”

The problem is our youth have been instructed by Bill Ayers and his Ilk.

33 posted on 02/10/2012 1:42:57 PM PST by Josephat (The old claim your evengelizing people who haven't heard the gospel, but go to a Catholic country tr)
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To: Toespi
“I, BHO, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and I will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States.”

How do we know thats what he said when he had to take the oath the second time?

34 posted on 02/10/2012 1:43:46 PM PST by suijuris
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To: Lee'sGhost

He has been constantly peeing on the constitution for years and shows no sings of letting up.

He must have the world’s largest bladder to be able to do this.

35 posted on 02/10/2012 1:57:03 PM PST by WPaCon
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To: Matchett-PI
You've been out of the loop

No, I saw that Rush comment, and I saw it as a call to other conservatives to start calling Obama what he is, a Communist. But Rush hasn't reiterated that language, apparently he didn't get the takers, and so he's back to having to say the same thing in other words, to paraphrasing and circumlocution. I'm sure he sees and says the reality, and it's no mystery to him. But the fail is still strong in public perceptions, and the dark befuddlement conjured by the LieStreamMedia is still working on the public.

I think it's still true that, if you use words like "Communist" to describe Obozo, well-meaning people who aren't clued by Rush or Savage or Levin or someone, will be susceptible to the psych failing called "transference", in which the hard truth, the onus of guilt, is transferred back to the speaker -- to you -- and you are perceived as the social compact-breaker, the bad actor, rather than the person you're trying to warn people about.

Communists have used that one forever, because it works.

36 posted on 02/10/2012 2:43:08 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: SoFloFreeper


37 posted on 02/10/2012 3:16:10 PM PST by Pagey (B. Hussein Obama is weak, and is as embarrassing a person as Mitt Romney!)
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To: loveliberty2

No, it’s not about contraception, but contraception and an attack on Catholics are what have woken some people up.

I belong to a pro-life group that is about half Catholic. Suddenly they are up in arms. What about NDAA? Isn’t that much more of a threat? People are still living in a world of identity politics, where you don’t really care until your ox is gored.

I now wear my “LEGALIZE THE CONSTITUTION” button everywhere. I actually get evil looks from some of the people in my neighborhood but they can’t say a word.

38 posted on 02/10/2012 3:31:50 PM PST by firebrand
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To: Kaslin
Ann Bancroft said it best:

Barack Obama and his regime are a collective anti-christ from the pit of hell itself. You priests and bishops need to wake the hell up and get this through your thick skulls. YOU DON'T COMPROMISE WITH EVIL. You don't DIALOG WITH SATAN. YOU DON'T PLAY POLITICS AND NEGOTIATE WITH A DEMON. You hoist the banner of Christ, fix your bayonet and charge that son of a bitch with every ounce of strength you have, and then you fight until either the enemy is totally defeated, or you are dead. That's your choice, gentlemen. That's your VOCATION. The war is begun. You either fight OR SHUT UP AND GET THE HELL OUT OF THE WAY, and then beg God to have mercy on your pathetic, faithless, cowardly ass whilst others take up your slack and die in your stead.

39 posted on 02/10/2012 3:44:44 PM PST by Marathoner (In the 80s we had Reagan, Johnny Cash and Bob Hope. Now we have Obama, no cash and no hope.)
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To: Marathoner

Typo: Ann Barnhardt.

40 posted on 02/10/2012 3:45:40 PM PST by Marathoner (In the 80s we had Reagan, Johnny Cash and Bob Hope. Now we have Obama, no cash and no hope.)
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