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Obama “accommodation”: Insurers must cover contraception at no cost to … anyone? (Why not Viagra?)
Hotair ^ | 02/10/2012 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 02/10/2012 11:34:49 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Today, the Obama administration hastily called a press conference to announce a change to its HHS mandate for employers to cover contraception at no cost, including religious organizations whose doctrines oppose contraception and abortifacients. Instead of religious organizations footing the bill directly, the revised "accommodation" now says that insurers must cover the costs, which changes --- nothing:

The revised Obama mandate will make religious groups contract with insurers to offer birth control and the potentially abortion-causing drugs to women at no cost. The revised mandate will have religious employers refer women to their insurance company for coverage that still violates their moral and religious beliefs. Under this plan, every insurance company will be obligated to provide coverage at no cost.

Essentially, religious groups will still be mandated to offer plans that cover both birth control and the ella abortion drug

According to Obama administration officials on a conference call this morning, a woman’s insurance company “will be required to reach out directly and offer her contraceptive care free of charge. The religious institutions will not have to pay for it.”

The birth control and abortion-causing drugs will simply be “part of the bundle of services that all insurance companies are required to offer,” White House officials said.

So these employers will still have to provide the health insurance, and the health insurance must cover the contraception and abortifacients. The White House apparently wants t pretend that the funds for these outlays will come off of the Unobtanium Tree, where insurers find money to cover all mandates. This exposes once again a stunning ignorance of risk pools and how costs are passed along to consumers.

Let’s just take this one step at a time. Where do insurers get money to pay claims? They collect premiums and co-pays from the insured group or risk pool. No matter what the Obama administration wants to say now, the money that will cover those contraception costs will come from the religious organizations that must now by law buy that insurance and pay those premiums. Their religious doctrines have long-standing prohibitions against participating in contraception and abortion, and nothing in this “accommodation” changes the fact that the government is now forcing them to both fund and facilitate access to products and services that offend their practice of religion.

Basically, the Obama administration told religious organizations to stop complaining and get in line. This “accommodation” only attempts to accommodate Obama’s political standing and nothing more.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: backoffbarry; bhofascism; contraception; corruption; democrats; fubo; healthinsurance; nobama2012; obama; obamacare; obamamandate
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1 posted on 02/10/2012 11:34:53 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Health Insurance used to be needed because one needs to be able to pay for something serious and catastrophic that happens in your life.

Now we have contraceptions... Next, Viagra and Levitra will be considered ‘needs’, mark my words.

Is it any wonder insurance costs don’t go down?


2 posted on 02/10/2012 11:37:34 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

3 posted on 02/10/2012 11:37:37 AM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: SeekAndFind

This is baloney.. The catholics will be paying just as before. The cost is in the premium. Does Ozero think people are this dumb.......YES


4 posted on 02/10/2012 11:37:46 AM PST by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat

How does BO just demand that insurance cover this and it suddenly must be so. He’s not a king or dictator last I checked. Does he actually have this kind of power to tell businesses what they can and can’t do with a wave of his wand? I really don’t like this.


5 posted on 02/10/2012 11:40:44 AM PST by dandiegirl
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To: SeekAndFind

(Why not Viagra?)

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That may be in the part that Pelosi said we still have to read.....you know, after we passed it to see what was in it.


6 posted on 02/10/2012 11:41:44 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: SeekAndFind

Why not my blood pressure medication? I think it’s a little more serious than birth control.


7 posted on 02/10/2012 11:41:52 AM PST by RC2
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To: SeekAndFind
What a typical fascist democrat ploy that reveals exactly the way they think. Reality doesn't mean a thing as long as they can think of a way to say something isn't happening, then it isn't happening even though it is, um, taking place.
8 posted on 02/10/2012 11:42:32 AM PST by Rashputin (Obama stark, raving, mad, and even his security people know it.)
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To: dandiegirl
How does BO just demand that insurance cover this and it suddenly must be so. He’s not a king or dictator last I checked. Does he actually have this kind of power

Yes. It's the new normal.

9 posted on 02/10/2012 11:43:18 AM PST by Lady Lucky (Public education -- government cheese for the brain.)
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To: RC2

If insurance companies must provide anything without cost, it’s called slavery.


10 posted on 02/10/2012 11:43:18 AM PST by aimhigh
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To: dandiegirl

The story inside the story, that to his credit Rush Limbaugh caught, is how Zero has now just assumed the legal ability to simply modify the wording of legislation on a whim. That’s the real issue, not the supposedly revised health coverage “rule”.


11 posted on 02/10/2012 11:46:28 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: SeekAndFind

“Next, Viagra and Levitra will be considered ‘needs’, mark my words.

Is it any wonder insurance costs don’t go down?”

Because, maybe the above mentioned products tend to, how shall we say, keep it up?


12 posted on 02/10/2012 11:46:52 AM PST by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: SeekAndFind

Where can we find authorization in the constitution for any of this?


13 posted on 02/10/2012 11:46:52 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is not just brewing, rebellion is here!!)
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To: dandiegirl

Yes, that is why Obamacare MUST go!


14 posted on 02/10/2012 11:47:45 AM PST by KansasGirl
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To: SeekAndFind
This also brings up other side of the commerce clause coin.

We've been arguing that the federal govt doesn't have the authority to force someone to purchase something (to force them into commerce).

But, does the federal government have the authority to force a company to sell something, or to provide a service "free of charge"? That's what Obama is doing here, and I think it's just as big a constitutional problem as forcing someone to buy something.

The federal government has the authority to regulate interstate commerce. It does not have the authority to force either an individual or company to engage in commerce.


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15 posted on 02/10/2012 11:48:31 AM PST by Brookhaven (Mitt Romney has been consistent since he changed his mind.)
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To: aimhigh

“If insurance companies must provide anything without cost, it’s called slavery.”

I think that it runs more in the line of extortion. It’s a shakedown any way you cut it.


16 posted on 02/10/2012 11:49:38 AM PST by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: SeekAndFind

My small business health insurance premiums went up 40% in January. Thanks Obama.

Next year, when my insurance has to cover contraception, 26 year old children of employees, and everything else that Obama wants to stick into it, I will not be able to afford to provide insurance at all.

This is, of course, the the intended result. Make private health insurance to prohibitively expensive that everyone ends up having to join the government Obamacare single payer plan.


17 posted on 02/10/2012 11:53:30 AM PST by kennedy (No relation to those other Kennedys.)
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To: Stormdog

Why not just forbid pharmaceutical companies from charging for birth control agents and forbid doctors and other health care providers from charging for abortions? After all, it is a ‘right.’


18 posted on 02/10/2012 11:53:52 AM PST by organicchemist
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To: SeekAndFind

There was some woman on Hannity yesterday that was holding on to the shibboleth of “if they cover Viagra, they have to cover birth control”, and she just would not let go of it.

It was her only answer to “why should others be forced to pay for birth control”.

There IS NO EQUIVALENCE between viagra and birth control.

Viagra is a drug that corrects a faulty bodily function.
Birth control takes a system that is in perfect working order and stops it from working.


19 posted on 02/10/2012 11:56:29 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: SeekAndFind

Seems to me that the main objective of Obamacare was centralized Federal control of all health care in the country. Obama just ran a beta test, and it worked. People strangely object to the infringement on religious freedom, but don’t seem to have a problem otherwise. If the mandate had been for eye tests that would have been fine.


20 posted on 02/10/2012 12:00:10 PM PST by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid)
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To: kennedy

I had to drop insurance. My premiums skyrocketed so high since thugbamacare set in I had no choice.

I would throw a party and dance in the streets if a nuke were set off in DC took out all these pofs.


21 posted on 02/10/2012 12:01:38 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: SeekAndFind

Look folks, Obama should be impeached. This guy is just as power hungry and controlling as all of the worst despot and dictators the world has seen!!! The sooner we come to that true conclusion about him the better off we all will be. This guy is no friend of the USA, nor “any of its people”. He and his wife are not Christians. They are either Muslims or non-believers, that really believe they are living gods born to rule and abuse all others except themselves. That mantra is as clear as the noses on your faces, American citizens. It’s time to throw this guy, Obama out of office, either by his own resignation, or impeachment. IMHO, he is an clear and present enemy of the state!!!


22 posted on 02/10/2012 12:02:43 PM PST by JLAGRAYFOX (My only objective is defeat and destroy POTUS Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: kennedy

“This is, of course, the the intended result.”

Well, its one step to the final result. The ultimate goal isn’t government health insurance, it is government health CARE.


23 posted on 02/10/2012 12:03:50 PM PST by 21twelve
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To: SeekAndFind


24 posted on 02/10/2012 12:07:26 PM PST by Iron Munro ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight he'll just kill you." John Steinbeck)
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To: RC2

I’ve heard having a beer or two every evening is beneficial. I want the government to buy my beer!


25 posted on 02/10/2012 12:10:07 PM PST by FerociousRabbit
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat

Unfortunately when he gets up there and says “I’m going to force a Big Grrrreeeedy Eeeeeeevil Corporation to give you something for FREE!”, a lot of people are going to swallow it and then applaud him.


26 posted on 02/10/2012 12:12:44 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SeekAndFind

You need to get out a little more - viagra is already on the list of approved drugs for nursing home guys who can’t get enough...lol. (seriously) It has been REQUIRED for years - all the ED drugs for men. Go figure. Why?


27 posted on 02/10/2012 12:15:08 PM PST by q_an_a (the more laws the less justice)
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To: Stormdog

““Next, Viagra and Levitra will be considered ‘needs’, mark my words.”


Well actually a much stronger case can be made for ED treatments as ED is a real medical condition so why should it not be covered? Why is everything focused on women?

Contraception, with very few exceptions, does not rectify, eliminate, minimize any medical condition. Minus the few exceptions prescribing contraception simply allows for play without pay.

Fact 1# requiring insurance cos. to pay for this must not be allowed to side step the issue as that “free, non-medical treatment” will be part of the monthly premium. You can bury it as deeply in the fine print as you want but the evil messiah is still forcing religious organizations to pay for this.

Fact #2: Where does the President get the authority to even make such mandates. If he can do this, then lets fire every Senator and member of the house as we obviously no longer need the legislative branch of government. And we might as well eliminate the USSC as they sure are not following the Constitution.


28 posted on 02/10/2012 12:16:37 PM PST by Wurlitzer (Welcome to the new USSA (United Socialist States of Amerika))
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To: organicchemist

“Why not just forbid pharmaceutical companies from charging for birth control agents and forbid doctors and other health care providers from charging for abortions? After all, it is a ‘right.’”

Some government explanation along those lines wouldn’t surprise me at all. There are people out there who actually think that the “Free Lunch” is actually free. The cost of the real lunch that funded the “Free Lunch” doubled... see where this is going? Charlatans rely on charades.


29 posted on 02/10/2012 12:17:29 PM PST by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: dandiegirl
Does he actually have this kind of power to tell businesses what they can and can’t do with a wave of his wand? I really don’t like this.

Citizen, it is not correct to challenge or question your betters. Now go back to work and pay your taxes.

30 posted on 02/10/2012 12:18:58 PM PST by Drill Thrawl (The damage is too extensive. Burn it down and start over.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Under the Senate health care bill that will be the main bill Obama and Democrats push through Congress, there is no ban on abortion funding. While some states can opt out of funding abortions under the plan, taxpayers in other states will be forced to pay for them.

But the bill contains other pro-abortion problems that are concerns for pro-life advocates.

The bill requires that at least one health care plan be promoted across the country that pays for abortions, more abortion funding would come via the affordability credits, and many of the so-called limits on abortion funding in the Senate bill are temporary and could expire or be overturned at a later date.

The Senate health care bill also pays for abortions under the Indian Health Service program.

And it contains the Mikulski amendment that would allow the Obama administration to define abortion as preventative care and force insurance plans to pay for abortions.

Finally, the Senate bill does not contain language needed to offer full conscience protection for pro-life medical workers and facilities. “

http://www.lifenews.com/2010/03/23/nat-6180/

The Stupak Dozen and the moot EO that does not override law is brought to mind here.........

Where ARE the Stupak Dozen?


31 posted on 02/10/2012 12:21:08 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: FerociousRabbit

“I’ve heard having a beer or two every evening is beneficial. I want the government to buy my beer!”

Excessive consumption of beer can cause you to pass out before you can have sex, therefore it is a contraceptive.


32 posted on 02/10/2012 12:22:06 PM PST by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: SeekAndFind

No, not Viagra. Barry needs all the Viagra to make him stand up straight.


33 posted on 02/10/2012 12:22:29 PM PST by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: MrB

one can be at the ‘peak’ of ‘male readiness’ and still be shooting blanks ..(leaving aside all the female issues
affecting fertility).


34 posted on 02/10/2012 12:22:44 PM PST by RitchieAprile
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To: SeekAndFind

Why stop with viagra?

Why not SCOTCH, AND COCAINE!


35 posted on 02/10/2012 12:23:46 PM PST by Yehuda
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“Unfortunately when he gets up there and says “I’m going to force a Big Grrrreeeedy Eeeeeeevil Corporation to give you something for FREE!”, a lot of people are going to swallow it and then applaud him.”

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Exactly and one step further: the RATS can now say they’re “willing to compromise” but the EVIL church and GOP don’t want to play ball and are acting unreasonably.


36 posted on 02/10/2012 12:29:57 PM PST by Yooper4Life (They all lie.)
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37 posted on 02/10/2012 12:36:17 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Mandating private company cost-coverage is a hidden tax.

There is still a cost to the economy although the corporations are bound to be more efficient at administering the tax than the government would.


38 posted on 02/10/2012 12:37:24 PM PST by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Quite honestly this all seems like a charade to me. Obama, a socialist who received 54% of the Catholics in 2008, first requires that all Catholic employers provide birth control directly to all employees and the Catholics pretend to be against that. Then Obama revises his demand so that all Catholic employers have to contract a health insurer who will provide birth control! With that change, Obama will most likely get 54% of the Catholic vote again in 2012. The difference is now the baby is one payment farther from abortion. IMHO, the majority of Catholics are hypocritical and have become just like Obama.

When the Pope says no to this and declares the sanctity of human life out of the hands of any politicians, then maybe I will return to the fold. Excommunication of both Kerry and Pelosi would be an excellent start to show good faith,

Meanwhile, while I color their faces, I will use the hypocritical crayola....

39 posted on 02/10/2012 12:40:41 PM PST by eeriegeno (<p>)
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To: Stormdog
Because, maybe the above mentioned products tend to, how shall we say, keep it up?


40 posted on 02/10/2012 12:41:37 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Wait until HHS rules that abortion is a preventive measure and makes it free with no co-pay.


41 posted on 02/10/2012 12:45:43 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Romney just makes me tired all over.)
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To: GourmetDan

So NO ONE pays for this ha? Right.. how about the premium payers — how about the insurance company stockholders... great socialist promise.... free everything for everybody. This usurper must be aborted from our White House !!!!


42 posted on 02/10/2012 12:46:09 PM PST by Froggie
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To: Jim Robinson

In the “Good and Plenty” Clause.


43 posted on 02/10/2012 12:48:45 PM PST by rightwingintelligentsia (Be careful of believing something just because you want it to be true.)
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To: Froggie

“at no cost”? so who pays for this?

This is NOT going to be at no cost.


44 posted on 02/10/2012 1:17:23 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t think that the City of Chicago’s insurance covers contraception.


45 posted on 02/10/2012 1:20:58 PM PST by Patriotic1 (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am)
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To: aimhigh

I’d call it socialism......the Obama way.


46 posted on 02/10/2012 1:33:10 PM PST by RC2
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To: SeekAndFind

That is an unfunded mandate. I think there are Federal Laws against those.


47 posted on 02/10/2012 1:42:09 PM PST by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

I AGREE. KICK OBAMA OUT OF OFFICE! WE CANNOT STAND FOR THIS TYRANNY ANY LONGER! WAKE UP EVERYONE. But who besides us is there to be awoken? When I talk to liberal co-workers who actually are willing to talk politics, and I tell them of things happening that should blow their socks off, they act unphased. I don’t know if they just don’t believe me or they think it’s okay!!! Guys it is up to us.


48 posted on 02/10/2012 1:53:18 PM PST by kelly4c
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To: SeekAndFind

I want a free Harley


49 posted on 02/10/2012 1:55:36 PM PST by woofie (It takes three villages and a forest of woodland creatures to raise a child in Obamaville)
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To: SeekAndFind

What inefficiency, covering basic medications. I know, I know, it’s all about prevention - give people something for “free” so they won’t get sick later and run up more costs.

We have a plan that doesn’t cover prescriptions - still manage to pay for them out of pocket, and take them even though we have to pay for them. Of course we’d be totally screwed if one of us had cancer or some disease that needed really expensive drugs - but that is what insurance should be for.


50 posted on 02/10/2012 1:56:49 PM PST by heartwood
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