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Facebook Dad's Response to Media Outlet (LOVE IT)
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Posted on 02/11/2012 8:48:22 AM PST by DouglasKC

Media Response to Anita Li, from the Toronto Star

Since you took the time to email us with your requests like we asked, I’ll take the time to give you an honest follow-up response. You’ll have to forgive me for doing so publicly though; again I want to be sure my words are portrayed the way I actually say them, not cut together to make entirely different points.

Your questions were: Q: Why did you decide to reprimand your daughter over a public medium like YouTube?

A: Well, I actually just had to load the video file itself on YouTube because it’s a better upload process than Facebook, but the intended audience was her Facebook friends and the parents of those friends who saw her post and would naturally assume we let our children get away with something like that. So, to answer “Why did you reprimand her over a public medium like Facebook” my answer is this: Because that’s how I was raised. If I did something embarrassing to my parents in public (such as a grocery store) I got my tail tore up right there in front of God and everyone, right there in the store. I put the reprisal in exactly the same medium she did, in the exact same manner. Her post went out to about 452 people. Mine went out to about 550 people… originally. I had no idea it would become what it did.

Q: How effective do you think your punishment was (i.e. shooting her laptop and reading her letter online)?

A: I think it was very effective on one front. She apparently didn’t remember being talked to about previous incidents, nor did she seem to remember the effects of having it taken away, nor did the eventual long-term grounding seem to get through to her. I think she thought “Well, I’ll just wait it out and I’ll get it back eventually.” Her behavior corrected for a short time, and then it went back to what it was before and worse. This time, she won’t ever forget and it’ll be a long time before she has an opportunity to post on Facebook again. I feel pretty certain that every day from then to now, whenever one of her friends mentions Facebook, she’ll remember it and wish she hadn’t done what she did.

The second lesson I want her to learn is the value of a dollar. We don’t give her everything she asks for, but you can all imagine what it’s like being the only grandchild and the first child. Presents and money come from all sides when you’re young. Most of the things she has that are “cool” were bought or gifted that way. She’s always asked for very few things, but they’re always high-dollar things (iPod, laptop, smartphone, etc). Eventually she gets given enough money to get them. That’s not learning the value of a dollar. Its knowing how to save money, which I greatly applaud in her, but it’s not enough. She wants a digital SLR camera. She wants a 22 rifle like mine. She wants a car. She wants a smart phone with a data package and unlimited texting. (I have to hear about that one every week!)

She thinks all these things are supposed to be given to her because she’s got parents. It’s not going to happen, at least not in our house. She can get a job and work for money just like everyone else. Then she can spend it on anything she wants (within reason). If she wants to work for two months to save enough to purchase a $1000 SLR camera with an $800 lens, then I can guarantee she’ll NEVER leave it outside at night. She’ll be careful when she puts it away and carries it around. She’ll value it much more because she worked so hard to get it. Instead, with the current way things have been given to her, she's on about her fourth phone and just expects another one when she breaks the one she has. She's not sorry about breaking it, or losing it, she's sorry only because she can't text her friends. I firmly believe she'll be a LOT more careful when she has to buy her own $299.00 Motorola Razr smartphone.

Until then, she can do chores, and lots and lots of them, so the people who ARE feeding her, clothing her, paying for all her school trips, paying for her musical instruments, can have some time to relax after they finish working to support her and the rest of the family. She can either work to make money on her own, or she will do chores to contribute around the house. She’s known all along that all she has to do is get a job and a lot of these chores will go away. But if you’re too lazy to work even to get things you want for yourself, I’m certainly not going to let you sit idly on your rear-end with your face glued to both the TV and Facebook for 5 to 6 hours per night. Those days are over.

Q: How did your daughter respond to the video and to what happened to her laptop?

A: She responded to the video with “I can’t believe you shot my computer!” That was the first thing she said when she found out about it. Then we sat and we talked for quite a long while on the back patio about the things she did, the things I did in response, etc.

Later after she’d had time to process it and I’d had time to process her thoughts on the matters we discussed, we were back to a semi-truce… you know that uncomfortable moment when you’re in the kitchen with your child after an argument and you’re both waiting to see which one’s going to cave in and resume normal conversation first? Yeah, that moment. I told her about the video response and about it going viral and about the consequences it could have on our family for the next couple of days and asked if she wanted to see some of the comments people had made. After the first few hundred comments, she was astounded with the responses.

People were telling her she was going to commit suicide, commit a gun-related crime, become a drug addict, drop out of school, get pregnant on purpose, and become a stripper because she’s too emotionally damaged now to be a productive member of society. Apparently stripper was the job-choice of most of the commenters. Her response was “Dude… it’s only a computer. I mean, yeah I’m mad but pfft.” She actually asked me to post a comment on one of the threads (and I did) asking what other job fields the victims of laptop-homicide were eligible for because she wasn’t too keen on the stripping thing.

We agreed we learned two collective lessons from this so far:

First: As her father, I’ll definitely do what I say I will, both positive and negative and she can depend on that. She no longer has any doubt about that.

Second: We have always told her what you put online can affect you forever. Years later a single Facebook/MySpace/Twitter comment can affect her eligibility for a good job and can even get her fired from a job she already has. She’s seen first-hand through this video the worst possible scenario that can happen. One post, made by her Dad, will probably follow him the rest of his life; just like those mean things she said on Facebook will stick with the people her words hurt for a long time to come. Once you put it out there, you can’t take it back, so think carefully before you use the internet to broadcast your thoughts and feelings.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: computer; dad; facebook; shoots
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You've GOT to take a look at his guys Facebook page...if he's not a Freeper he ought to be an honorary lifetime member.
1 posted on 02/11/2012 8:48:36 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC
yeah. The guy is a genuine american hero...father of the year shoo in.
2 posted on 02/11/2012 8:52:08 AM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Angry_White_Man_Syndrome

Ping


3 posted on 02/11/2012 8:53:40 AM PST by Hoosier Catholic Momma (How long till my Arkansas drawl fades into the twang of southeast Ohio?)
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To: DouglasKC

There is hope for this great republic.

With a father like that and the lesson’s he is teaching her. . . wow. . .our nation may yet survive the me-me-me-and-I-want-your-stuff-because-you-owe-me Obama culture.


4 posted on 02/11/2012 8:55:48 AM PST by Hulka
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To: DouglasKC
I think he's a self indulgent jackass.

The second lesson I want her to learn is the value of a dollar.

By destroying a valuable laptop. Could have achieved the same lesson by contributing it to a school or charity.

5 posted on 02/11/2012 8:57:55 AM PST by DManA
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To: paul51

Oh, terrific letter. Thanks for posting.


6 posted on 02/11/2012 8:58:25 AM PST by bboop (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? St. Augustine)
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To: DouglasKC

Some of the idiotic comments he quoted were made right here on FR. I have no problem with what he did.


7 posted on 02/11/2012 8:59:05 AM PST by beandog (Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand)
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To: DouglasKC
11:46AM ET Saturday, The Facebook reports that the content is currently unavailable.
8 posted on 02/11/2012 8:59:54 AM PST by garyb
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To: DManA

Agreed, this father is suffering from the same idiotic behavior as his daughter. He’s just displaying it in a different way. Punishment should be kept in house. Destroying the laptop does the exact opposite of showing her the value of a dollar. That’s the kind of thing people who don’t know the value of a dollar would do.


9 posted on 02/11/2012 9:00:46 AM PST by bigdirty
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To: DManA

I couldn’t help but thinking that in some ways the apple didn’t fall far from the tree. In the video, he commented on his daughter’s language in her facebook post, yet in his understandable anger, used some of the same language.

He knows his daughter better than I but when I was her age I probably would have dug my heals in further.


10 posted on 02/11/2012 9:02:57 AM PST by GoDuke
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To: DouglasKC

Sorry to be late to the party, but WHAT did she put on her Face Book page that generated her father’s response/reaction?


11 posted on 02/11/2012 9:03:34 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: DouglasKC

Father of the Year, IMHO.


12 posted on 02/11/2012 9:03:42 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: bigdirty

I could not disagree with you more vehemently if I tried


13 posted on 02/11/2012 9:09:13 AM PST by 100American (Knowledge is knowing how, Wisdom is knowing when)
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To: bigdirty; GoDuke

What I saw was a grown man having a temper tantrum. With a gun.


14 posted on 02/11/2012 9:11:08 AM PST by DManA
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Check the video at the link. He reads her post from hard copy.


15 posted on 02/11/2012 9:15:50 AM PST by RedCell (Honor thy Father (9/6/07) - Semper Fi / "...it is their duty, to throw off such government...")
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To: DManA; bigdirty; GoDuke

You might want to look at this post that he also made on his facebook page...concerns your concerns about his parenting skills:

And OK, so THAT brings me to a topic I’ll close with, though I had no intention of speaking on it when I started this rant. (Hey, aren’t the 25 thousand of you who subscribed really regretting it now? I’m always this scatter brained. Makes you wonder how I formed enough sensible sentences to write a book doesn’t it? Then again... maybe that accounts for the book sales being in the toilet...)

So, my last point:
I’ve received a LOT of comments (and by lot you have to understand there’s literally MILLIONS of them. I’ll likely never be able to read them all in my lifetime) pointing out that I was raised old fashioned apparently that that I needed to learn to be a parent in today’s world.

Umm.. is there a polite way to call bull***t!?

The kids today ARE self entitled, spoiled, adverse to working, and basically have NO usable skills taught to them in schools. (Yes some of you out there excel. If you’ve graduated high school and at least pay some of your own bills, then I’m not talking to you. If you however are 25 and live with your parents because you’re too lazy to get a job, then yes, I’m talking to you. Half of that is the parent’s fault for thinking that the school system is supposed to raise their kids. The other half is a parent’s fault for letting our school systems get to the utterly pathetic state they are in. It’s your kid.. so no matter what it’s ALWAYS your fault.. get it?

I’ll give you a real example from the NC school system. My daughter just finished Honors Geometry in school. Halfway through the semester she asks me “Dad, can you help me type this math problem into your graphing calculator? I can’t get the equation to come out right.” I said “sure” and went over to help out. The problem was about calculating the tangent of a line, but I can’t remember the specifics of it at the moment. I took a look at it and said “Honey, why don’t you just do the problem manually... you know, on a piece of paper? It’s pretty easy.”

She honestly looked at me like I was a complete idiot! “You can’t do it with a pencil and paper, Dad. Sheesh!”

I stared at her dumbfounded. “Honey, you DO know that tangential math has been around since the 1600s, right? Over 500 years. Long BEFORE graphing calculators existed..., right?”
Her response was “Well, we’re not taught that. We’re just taught how to enter it into a calculator and get the right answer.”

Absolutely SURE she must be crazy, I checked.... and she’s right. HONORS mathematics at the high school level doesn’t teach kids basic math principles. At all!!! If a modern honors geometry student had to calculate the distance of a line from the top of a flag pole to any point in space relative to the ground.. they have no idea how to do it. (How many of you just asked your kids to show you how to do that? Wait... how many more are Googling it right now? Stop. That’s cheating.)

Further, almost every state now is taking “writing” out of schools. Kids are now being taught to print, and that’s it. No need for actual writing because they all have computers. I’m NOT making this up! This is TRUE!! They learn the alphabetic characters... and nothing more. The age of eloquent thought borne by patient strokes of pen to paper... are gone like Rhett Butler’s sex appeal.

So let me recap... you don’t learn math, you don’t learn to write actual words without the benefit of spell-check. You don’t apparently learn grammar either because I’ve SEEN those text books and quizzes.. horrible.

Yet you want ME to stop raising MY child with old fashioned methods that actually made me fairly intelligent, capable of fending for myself, capable of managing money, holding a job, respecting my elders, etc?

So you can replace it with what? You want to teach kids it’s OK to talk back to parents as long as they have the freedom to express themselves. You want to outlaw spankings. You’ve obviously made it OK for them to be stupid upon graduating high school. You’ve recently made it illegal for kids to work around any animal that can harm them under the age of 18, to include working in hay lofts, around dogs, or cats, horses, or cattle, etc. (Thanks for that law Obama.. idiot) You won’t let them work in a restaurant that serves alcohol until 18 in most states. You won’t let them work at ALL until 15 (It was 13 for me, but Dad lied and got me started when I was 12). When are they supposed to learn actual adult stuff exactly? When do they learn responsibility? No kid left behind? Pfft.. EVERY kid left behind! (Dang I’m mad now.. maybe I WILL run for President... no, wife already vetoed that one. I’d really love to though.. really, seriously!)

“Modern” parenting raises ill-prepared kids who can’t do anything and have no skills because they’re protected from even LEARNING them until 18 years old, at which time you want us parents to throw them out into the world, send them off to college, and expect them to be productive members of society? You can take your “modern” parenting, and shove it. Jeezus people. Half of you think chores at 15 are too much! God forbid we make them actually WORK too!

(packing my soapbox away and going to bed now)


16 posted on 02/11/2012 9:15:50 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: bigdirty
Destroying the laptop does the exact opposite of showing her the value of a dollar.

I didn't see the FB page yet, but as to the material value of a computer, I think it's secondary. "If your right hand is an occasion of sin to you, cut it off."

17 posted on 02/11/2012 9:16:31 AM PST by SamuraiScot
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To: bboop

I didn’t post it


18 posted on 02/11/2012 9:18:55 AM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: DouglasKC

I swooned over this man when I watched this yesterday.


19 posted on 02/11/2012 9:19:59 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: DouglasKC
Since you took the time to email us with your requests like we asked, I’ll take the time to give you an honest follow-up response. You’ll have to forgive me for doing so publicly though; again I want to be sure my words are portrayed the way I actually say them, not cut together to make entirely different points.

He sure has the media pegged, doesn't he?

20 posted on 02/11/2012 9:19:59 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: DouglasKC

That is a well thought out essay. Exactly the opposite of what I saw on his video.


21 posted on 02/11/2012 9:21:22 AM PST by DManA
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To: All

More...this time on ALL the dogooders who called the police and cps on him:

“For those that feel the need to keep calling the police and CPS. lol

Apparently both the local police and the department of social services are OK with it. Yes they came. Of course they came. They received enough “Oh my god he’s going to kill his daughter” comments that they had to. I knew that the moment it went viral.. it was too late and it was inevitable. I’m only surprised it took as long as it did to be honest.

The police by the way said “Kudos, Sir” and most of them made their kids watch it. I actually had a “thank you” from an entire detectives squad. And another police officer is using it in a positive manner in his presentation for the school system. How’s about those apples? Didn’t expect THAT when you called the cops did you?

The kind lady from Child Protective Services looked all through the house, the yard, and found ours to be a healthy home. She saw the unloaded guns in their rack with the magazines removed and stored separately and safely. Funny thing: The case officer asked to see “the gun”.... “Umm, sir, may I see the actual..umm.. weapon used for the video?” She wasn’t at all scared of me but I could tell she doesn’t like guns as a general rule. To each their own though. She was comfortable that I was adhering to NC gun safety regulations for the protection of minors, and that’s all she needed. But of course if you want to continue, I’m just going to leave a pot of coffee on for the next officers who come by. (Digress: Maybe I can get Krispy Kreme to sponsor me with lifetime donuts? Oh God that would be heaven. Dunkin? Crap... KK all the way....)

She asked if I minded if she interviewed my daughter privately but that I didn’t have to agree. I let her meet in private and then she and I met for about an hour and a half. At the end of the day, no I’m not losing my kids, no one’s in danger of being ripped from our home that I know of, and I actually got to spend some time with the nice lady and learn some cool parenting tips that I didn’t know.. I use them on my 8 year old son, but not on my fifteen year old daughter.. but now I will! There were a few things I thought she was “too old” for, but after talking to the case worker, I feel like it’s worth a shot to try them. Maybe I’ll sell those secrets in my next book! (Seriously? You just got mad didn’t you? I’m kidding. Besides, that would still only give me two pages of material- one parent tip page and one page on handgun selection techniques appropriate for different electronic destructive purposes.)”


22 posted on 02/11/2012 9:22:01 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: afraidfortherepublic

He printed it out and read it on his video response.
Mostly...complaining about chores and insulting her parents.

I think the clincher that probably provoked gunfire was when she declared she couldn’t wait until they were too old to wipe their own asses.


23 posted on 02/11/2012 9:23:35 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: DouglasKC
That was excellent!
This paragraph could be applied to the deadbeats and parasites who comprise the Democrat party "base":

She thinks all these things are supposed to be given to her because she’s got parents. It’s not going to happen, at least not in our house. She can get a job and work for money just like everyone else. Then she can spend it on anything she wants (within reason). If she wants to work for two months to save enough to purchase a $1000 SLR camera with an $800 lens, then I can guarantee she’ll NEVER leave it outside at night. She’ll be careful when she puts it away and carries it around. She’ll value it much more because she worked so hard to get it. Instead, with the current way things have been given to her, she's on about her fourth phone and just expects another one when she breaks the one she has. She's not sorry about breaking it, or losing it, she's sorry only because she can't text her friends. I firmly believe she'll be a LOT more careful when she has to buy her own $299.00 Motorola Razr smartphone.

24 posted on 02/11/2012 9:25:23 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: RedCell; Scotswife

Thanks.


25 posted on 02/11/2012 9:27:18 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: All

More: This time on would he do anything different? :

Update:
This may come as a wild shock to some.. wait for it.. wait.... (I need that guy who did the awesome HD youtube parody to do me an intro here. Where is he when I need him?)

I’m NOT a hero... of ANY kind... at all.
I’m not a super-dad, or awesome parent.

I’m a normal guy with reasonable a moral compass that I try very hard to keep pointed north. I make a LOT of mistakes. Did I say a LOT? I mean a WHOLE lot! Daily... sometimes hourly!

I’m extremely lucky to have a very strong wife who tolerates me and puts up with my mistakes, and who herself is strong enough that she can put me in my place with only a look.. no really.. you haven’t seen her “I’m not kidding anymore” face... it’s serious.
(For example I can apparently destroy a laptop and garnish world-wide attention in mere seconds, but I guarantee tomorrow morning my wife will say “Hey Chuck Norris. Make the freakin BED WILL YOU PLEASE” because I’ll forget to.
(I have to admit the “Chuck Norris wears Tommy Jordan pajamas” comment will stay with me for the rest of my life. I want that on a bumper sticker!)

I’m lucky to have great kids (two of them) who look up to me despite all my mistakes.
I make bad parenting decisions all the time. We all do. Personally, I stand behind the decision I made earlier this week by posting the video. I don’t find fault with it. If I had it to do again... let’s see... I’d do it almost the same.

I’d not be smoking a cigarette. (That’s a habit I promised my wife I’d quit as soon as I could afford to just go out and buy a Chantix prescription. She absolutely hates it and I’m getting mature enough to want to quit it for my own reasons as well.)

I’d not have used the word “ass” in my comment directed at my daughter. That was rude and a bad example of a parent using the “Do as I say, not as I do” philosophy

I’d have worn my Silverbelly Stetson, not my Tilley hat if I’d known that image was going to follow me the rest of my life and I’d probably have cleaned my boots.

That’s it. I meant all the rest of it. My wife is OK with it. My daughter is OK with it. My Mother is OK with it. I’m OK with it. We’re the only ones that matter.


26 posted on 02/11/2012 9:29:11 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC

do I need more coffee? Or this guy’s name nowhere to be found in the article?

I’d love to look at his FB page -if I can find it!


27 posted on 02/11/2012 9:32:15 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: Persevero; Shimmer1
People were telling her she was going to commit suicide, commit a gun-related crime, become a drug addict, drop out of school, get pregnant on purpose, and become a stripper because she’s too emotionally damaged now to be a productive member of society. Apparently stripper was the job-choice of most of the commenters. Her response was “Dude… it’s only a computer. I mean, yeah I’m mad but pfft.”

The teen girl's response to "Laptop-o-cide!"

28 posted on 02/11/2012 9:32:54 AM PST by Grizzled Bear (No More RINOS!)
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To: Scotswife

The link at the top where it says “Facebook” will take you to his page...or should.


29 posted on 02/11/2012 9:36:38 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: Scotswife
Link to Tommy Jordan's Facebook page
30 posted on 02/11/2012 9:37:41 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: Shimmer1
It get's even better!

The police by the way said “Kudos, Sir” and most of them made their kids watch it. I actually had a “thank you” from an entire detectives squad. And another police officer is using it in a positive manner in his presentation for the school system. How’s about those apples? Didn’t expect THAT when you called the cops did you?

Our friend is gonna get a case of the vapors when she hears about all of these abusers!

31 posted on 02/11/2012 9:38:50 AM PST by Grizzled Bear (No More RINOS!)
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To: DouglasKC

I agree 100% with his philosophy, but couldn’t he have just confiscated her laptop and locked it up for a month or two?


32 posted on 02/11/2012 9:41:10 AM PST by Inspectorette
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To: DManA

Oh please. A laptop is nothing compared to his daughter’s life and well being. Learning how to respect others, showing a little humility, contributing to the family by doing chores, and knowing how to earn an honest buck will serve her better through her lifetime than any laptop is worth. As Calvin’s dad would say, “It builds character.”


33 posted on 02/11/2012 9:42:01 AM PST by Ladysmith (The evil that's happening in this country is the cancer of socialism...It kills the human spirit.)
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To: Grizzled Bear
The police by the way said “Kudos, Sir” and most of them made their kids watch it. I actually had a “thank you” from an entire detectives squad. And another police officer is using it in a positive manner in his presentation for the school system. How’s about those apples? Didn’t expect THAT when you called the cops did you? Our friend is gonna get a case of the vapors when she hears about all of these abusers!

I know it's great!

34 posted on 02/11/2012 9:42:06 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC

His responses show me someone who is able to look critically at themselves in the mirror. So with that, I find no real fault with him at all. Kids drive ya’ nuts because we love them so much.


35 posted on 02/11/2012 9:42:24 AM PST by GoDuke
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To: DouglasKC
We’re the only ones that matter.

Then why did you put it out then in public inviting the whole "village" to comment?

Actually, I'm 3/4 convinced the whole thing was an act. Reality show here we come.

36 posted on 02/11/2012 9:42:41 AM PST by DManA
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To: Inspectorette
A: I think it was very effective on one front. She apparently didn’t remember being talked to about previous incidents, nor did she seem to remember the effects of having it taken away, nor did the eventual long-term grounding seem to get through to her. I think she thought “Well, I’ll just wait it out and I’ll get it back eventually.” Her behavior corrected for a short time, and then it went back to what it was before and worse. This time, she won’t ever forget and it’ll be a long time before she has an opportunity to post on Facebook again. I feel pretty certain that every day from then to now, whenever one of her friends mentions Facebook, she’ll remember it and wish she hadn’t done what she did.

Guess you missed that part.

37 posted on 02/11/2012 9:44:39 AM PST by NoGrayZone (Jim "Firebrand" Robinson endorses Newt...with EPIC call to action!!)
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To: Inspectorette
I agree 100% with his philosophy, but couldn’t he have just confiscated her laptop and locked it up for a month or two?

He addressed that I believe...if he merely locked it up it would send the message that she would get it back if she just was "good" for a month or two. She had done this already. This sent the message that it's not coming back unless you want to get a job, save up, and buy one for yourself.

38 posted on 02/11/2012 9:44:52 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC

I noticed (am I the only one?) at about 7:10 in the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr7vSJHkchs just before he fires the first round, he thumbs the hammer back. That means there was already a round in the chamber. That means he was carrying a 1911 with the hammer down on a live round. Not too smart, IMO.


39 posted on 02/11/2012 9:45:56 AM PST by shooter223 (the government should fear the citizens......not the other way around)
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To: DManA
What I saw was a grown man having a temper tantrum. With a gun."

I'm certain many would say the same thing unless they thought about it for a little while.
What you had here was a 15 year old girl building a flawed ego and attempting to display it in a public setting in front of her peers. I'm sure her "letter" was written out of frustration, but it was done using a flawed perspective of reality and a goal of humiliating her parents in a public setting.
In her letter of contempt, she showed no willingness to attempt restraint and took a private family matter into the public. It was done to vent, try and garner support for what she views as her suffering" and to put her parents on defense.

The father needed to prove a few things. First, "I'll always up the ante no matter HOW high you bet". Second, he needed to make a spectacle that she wouldn't soon forget. Third, he needed to show her how humiliating it can be when you publicly air your internal family matters and finally, he had to destroy that flawed ego in the same setting where it was used against him and show her that everything she is, hand everything she has is a direct product of HIS efforts... He want for her to change that by getting a job.
I think he managed the whole thing pretty well, considering. In hindsight, I'm sure he wishes he would have waited a day until he wasn't so angry and hurt, but that's hindsight and we can all find enough fault in our own actions to keep us busy with that.

I think he accomplished the goals.
She will never again take a private matter to the public.
She now understand who the REAL owner of her property is since she won't work for it.
She now knows to NEVER challenge the authority of her father. He just might react in a completely unexpected way.
She now knows if you are going to play adult games, there will be embarrassing adult consequences.
Above all, I think watching her father stutter and spit for 8 minutes while trying to control his rage has shown her that her Dad is a real person with real feelings. Hopefully, she has learned to be more considerate of that reality and show him the respect he deserves.

40 posted on 02/11/2012 9:46:20 AM PST by FunkyZero (... I've got a Grand Piano to prop up my mortal remains)
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To: bigdirty

She could also go to CPS and tell them her father shot her laptop and she’s afraid to be around him. Guess what will happen?


41 posted on 02/11/2012 9:46:26 AM PST by goldi
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Then why did you put it out then in public inviting the whole "village" to comment?

You must have missed the part where this was a response to the daughter trash talking the parents before "the whole 'village'." If you were aware of this you might also know that one of her comments was that she "can't wait until they are too old to wipe their own butts."

The daughter chose the venue. Dad just rewrote her script.

42 posted on 02/11/2012 9:46:58 AM PST by Grizzled Bear (No More RINOS!)
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To: DManA
Then why did you put it out then in public inviting the whole "village" to comment? Actually, I'm 3/4 convinced the whole thing was an act. Reality show here we come.

Nope..another post:

Attention Media Outlets: While we appreciate the interest you're all putting forth to get in touch with us regarding the video, we're not going to go on your talk show, not going to call in to your radio show, and not going to be in your TV mini-series.

Some of you think I made an acceptable parenting decision and others think I didn't. However, I can't think of any way myself or my daughter can ...respond to a media outlet that won't be twisted out of context. The Dallas news TV news already showed that in their brief 5 minute interview with the psychologist.

Additionally, there's absolutely NO way I'm going to send my child the message that it's OK to gain from something like this. It would send her a message that it's OK to profit at the expense of someone else's embarrassment or misfortune and that's now how I was raised, nor how she has been raised.

So I say thank you from all of us. If we have anything to say, we'll say it here on Facebook, and we'll say it publicly, but we won't say it to a microphone or a camera. There are too many other REAL issues out there that could use this attention you're giving us. My daughter isn't hurt, emotionally scarred, or otherwise damaged, but that kind of publicity has never seemed to be to have a positive effect on any child or family.

If you're a news outlet that wants to ask us a question, feel free to so via email. I'm sure by now my email address is easy enough to find. It might take me awhile to get to a response because I'd have to sort through the "Die you bastard" emails to find it, but we will respond if its something that we feel merits it. Otherwise, sorry... no interviews, no talk shows, no call-ins.

If we respond to anything, it will be on here, and it will be in a way that our words can't be misconstrued or edited for appeal to specific audience or shock value.

Now, I'm going to try to get to work for the day. Best of luck to all of you out there... and PLEASE give my phone a break.

43 posted on 02/11/2012 9:47:36 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC

I think it’s quite clear that this man loves his daughter. As a father of two teenagers, I completely appreciate his perspective and applaud his approach.


44 posted on 02/11/2012 9:47:49 AM PST by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: goldi
She could also go to CPS and tell them her father shot her laptop and she’s afraid to be around him. Guess what will happen?

A lot of people already called cps and the cops...the showed up and guess what happened...post 22.

45 posted on 02/11/2012 9:50:11 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: goldi
She could also go to CPS and tell them her father shot her laptop and she’s afraid to be around him. Guess what will happen?

Did you read the article? I didn't think so.

46 posted on 02/11/2012 9:50:40 AM PST by Grizzled Bear (No More RINOS!)
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To: DouglasKC
Maybe I’ll sell those secrets in my next book! (Seriously? You just got mad didn’t you? I’m kidding. Besides, that would still only give me two pages of material- one parent tip page and one page on handgun selection techniques appropriate for different electronic destructive purposes.)”

LOL!!

47 posted on 02/11/2012 9:56:10 AM PST by Ladysmith (The evil that's happening in this country is the cancer of socialism...It kills the human spirit.)
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To: DouglasKC

The father is a jerk. He should have taken the laptop and sold it if he didn’t want her to have it.

Hope he doesn’t shoot the girl the next time he has a problem with her. He doesn’t sound stable regardless of what the cops or CPS think.


48 posted on 02/11/2012 9:57:01 AM PST by goldi
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To: goldi
The father is a jerk. He should have taken the laptop and sold it if he didn’t want her to have it.

Hope he doesn’t shoot the girl the next time he has a problem with her. He doesn’t sound stable regardless of what the cops or CPS think.

I'm not sure how your evaluation is better than the CPS and the cops who actually went there and interviewed both him and the daughter privately. And spent hours doing it as well as essentially searching through his home.

49 posted on 02/11/2012 10:00:32 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC

All I can say is good luck to them both. They sound like they deserve each other.


50 posted on 02/11/2012 10:02:17 AM PST by goldi
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