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Santorum Wins Virginia Tea Party Straw Poll
Manassas Tea Party ^ | 02/11/12 | Manassas Tea Party

Posted on 02/11/2012 3:10:31 PM PST by writer33

Manassas, VA, February 11, 2012 -- Although he will not appear on the Virginia Presidential primary ballot on March 6, it did not stop Manassas Tea Party members from selecting Rick Santorum as the overwhelming winner in a straw poll conducted at its monthly meeting of members last evening. In the straw poll which also contained the U.S. Senate Virginia seat and Manassas City Council races, Santorum swept the Presidential poll with 67% of the vote but equally interesting was Mitt Romney received no votes. Newt Gingrich was second in the poll with 27% and Ron Paul last with only 9%. “I believe the Santorum victory shows the rising national interest in a true conservative candidate, but it’s a little surprising Romney received no votes,” indicated Manassas Tea Party Chairman Craig Summers.

In the local Manassas City Council race where three seats are up for grabs Republican candidates Ian Lovejoy and Jonathan Way won with 34% and 24% respectively as well as Independent candidate Jerry Carman with 26%. The poll would not have re-elected Councilman Mark Wolfe as he came in with only 16% of the vote.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2012strawpolls; banrealguns; mccain2012; nonsense; princewilliamco; santorum; stunedisntaword; stupidity; teaparty; va2012; virginia; waterguns
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1 posted on 02/11/2012 3:10:39 PM PST by writer33
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To: Clint N. Suhks; American Constitutionalist; Antoninus; Colonel_Flagg; cripplecreek; ...

For those interested.


2 posted on 02/11/2012 3:11:19 PM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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Straw Poll Results

President
Gingrich (R) 27%
Obama (D) 0%
Paul (R) 9%
Romney (R) 0%
Santorum (R) 67%

U.S. Senate
Allen (R) 23%
Kaine (D) 5%
Marshall (R) 68%
Radtke (R) 0%
McCormick (R) 5%
E. Jackson (R) 0%

Manassas City Council
Lovejoy (R) 34%
Way (R) 24%
Wolfe (R) 16%
Carman (I) 26%
Richie-Folks (D) 0%


3 posted on 02/11/2012 3:22:44 PM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: writer33
Mitt Romney received no votes.

That's the way it was supposed to go at CPAC, but somebody stacked the deck.

4 posted on 02/11/2012 3:29:14 PM PST by Rudder (The Main Stream Media is Our Enemy---get used to it.)
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To: writer33

Too bad he’s not on the ballot...


5 posted on 02/11/2012 3:34:50 PM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: writer33

The real TEA party candidate!


6 posted on 02/11/2012 3:37:07 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: writer33

Romney should be getting no votes in the prmary IMO


7 posted on 02/11/2012 3:39:40 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: writer33

Nice I guess but straw polls really do not mean anything.


8 posted on 02/11/2012 3:42:53 PM PST by svcw (Only difference between Romney & BH is one thinks he will be god & other one thinks he already is.)
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To: writer33
Headline is downright disingenuous; this is The MANASSAS Tea Party; not a Tea Party the represents all of VA.

One interesting aside; Bob Marshall won the VA Senate part of this poll w/67%; while George Allen finished a distant second w/23% ...and some dork(s) must’ve voted for DemonRat Tim “The Eyebrow” Kaine who got 5%.

9 posted on 02/11/2012 3:52:21 PM PST by Ozymandias Ghost
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To: svcw

This one had obviously just a few voters - way less than 100 I would bet - it’s just a tiny splinter tea part group releasing a presser hoping to make themselves look important.


10 posted on 02/11/2012 4:10:45 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: GeronL

“The real TEA party candidate!”

Come on, Geron L.! Taxed Enough Already candidate? No.

Taxes

Voted against a flat tax.
Voted to increase tobacco taxes to pay for Medicare prescription drugs
Voted to increase tobacco taxes to fund health insurance subsidies for small businesses.
Voted to increase tobacco taxes to pay for an $8 billion increase in child healh insurance.
Voted to increase tobacco taxes to pay for an increase in NIH funding.
Voted twice for internet taxes.
Voted to allow gas tax revenues to be used to subsidize Amtrak.
Voted to strike marriage penalty tax relief and instead provide fines on tobacco companies.
Voted against repealing the Clinton 4.3 cent gas tax increase.
Voted to increase taxes by $2.3 billion to pay for an Amtrak trust fund.
Voted to allow welfare to a minor who had a child out of wedlock and who resided with an adult who was on welfare within the previous two years.
Voted to increase taxes by $9.4 billion to pay for a $9.4 billion increase in student loans.
Voted to say that AMT patch is more important than capital gains and dividend relief.

I understand you admire and support him, but keep it factual.


11 posted on 02/11/2012 5:01:43 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: writer33

I was expecting Newt would be the front runner, and supported him as the realistic figure to defeat Mitt, but as Santorum continues to win several states, I believe it is time to switch over, and unite our support for Santorum. Newt may still be selected as Vice President, and I support that too, since his experience in the congress for pulling strings is valuable.


12 posted on 02/11/2012 5:41:22 PM PST by Wiz
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To: SatinDoll

I have a factual list of Newt’s votes that is a lot longer and more disturbing.


13 posted on 02/11/2012 5:44:19 PM PST by FresnoRobert (When born, you cried and the world rejoiced. Live your life so that when you die, it's reversed.)
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To: writer33

Virginians supporters for Santorum and Gingrich (who aren’t on the ballot) should vote for Ron Paul in the primary, denying delegates to Romney.


14 posted on 02/11/2012 5:57:14 PM PST by OrangeHoof (Obama: The Dr. Kevorkian of the American economy.)
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To: FresnoRobert

Everyone knows about Newt. He has been in the public’s eye since 1978 and has been thoroughly vetted. Plus he has embraced the TEA Party.

Santorum criticized the TEA Party at CPAC last year. He is a big government guy, has never admitted that all those meeting he’s had with K Street lobbyists were wrong, and is as much a conservative as any pro-life Democrat.

http://www.eastidahonews.com/2012/01/santorum-hits-gingrich-romney-to-kick-off-florida-swing/

““You look at someone who was speaker of the House, and again, these are friends, I know they are good people, but when Newt was speaker of the House, well, within three years the conservatives within the House of Representatives tried to throw him out, and in the fourth year they did. Why? Because he wasn’t governing as a conservative,” Santorum said. “He didn’t live up to all the hype.”

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Gingrich became Speaker of the House and the Democrats went nuts! He moved to put cuts in the budget, which meant less pork and earmarks for constituents. For the first time in a very long time the Republicans actually had to govern and take responsibility.

The 1998 budget was scheduled for a $1 Billion cut and congress saw the gravy train leaving the station. No more getting rich at the public’s expense.

So it became “get rid of Newt Gingrich” even to the extent of manufacturing lies about him. Those phony ethics charges that were ALL dropped, but the media continues to smear him year after year after year. As does Rick Santorum.

The worst part of it is that Gingrich mentored Santorum when he first arrived in Washington as a new Representative. Rick stabbed Gingrich in the back. He was part of the coup.

“We were the ones standing up and fighting,” Santorum said. “I was the go-to guy.”

Senator Lindsy Graham said that is a lie, that Satntorum was never central to the coup. He is trying to take credit for something he never did. It’s called “puffery”, a lie about one’s role in an event in an attempt to look important.

Senator Santorum was part of the ongoing problem of business as usual in Washignton, D.C. Under a Republican president (George W. Bush), they added over $3 trillion to the federal deficit, shunned conservative policy in favor of Beltway influence-peddling, and so damaged the GOP brand that we lost the majority Gingrich had worked years to forge.

What’s even worse, he’s not to be trusted. I’ve been fooled by guys like Santorum; never again. He is dishonest.


15 posted on 02/11/2012 6:32:46 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: Wiz

16 posted on 02/11/2012 6:46:36 PM PST by RasterMaster ("Towering genius disdains a beaten path." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: SatinDoll

Your post5 is packed with known falsehoods. The critisism of the Tea party you cite is one. Rick critisized ELEMENTS within the Tea Party which were Libertarian, advocated the repeal of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, legalization of drugs, abandonment of social isses and the like. If you repeat the lie someone else spreads after knowing the truth you becpme a liar. Now you know, so there is no need to repeat it. This lie began with a heavily edited video that was put out origonally by Ron Paul’s campaign.

Rick was one of the key player in congress. He was a stalwart for life. Newt has been on the wrong side of a huge amount of issues and the fact is most people don’t know his record. Rick’s record compares very well and both have made bad votes. Did you know:

Fact: National Taxpayers Union (NTU) issued a congressional scorecard for Gingrich’s record on economic issues. From 1979-98, Gingrich had an average score of 61% (with 100% being a perfect score on supporting lower taxes and limited government).
1968 - He worked for Nelson Rockefeller’s 1968 presidential campaign against Richard Nixon.
5/16/79 – He voted for the Alaska Lands Bill, locking up 68 million aces as untouchable “wilderness”.
6/28/79 – He voted FOR the windfall profits tax on oil companies, a proposal of Jimmy Carter.
9/27/1979 – He voted yes on forming the Federal Department of Education. This was a vote for bigger and more federal control of government.
10/23/79 Voted FOR Jimmy Carter’s gas rationing plan. This was a vote for federal control of the free market.
12/18/1979 – He voted for the Chrysler bailout proposed by Jimmy Carter. Another example of meddling with the free market.
6/12/1890 – He voted against states controlling insurance regulations and for expanded federal control.
12/16/1981 – He voted to temporarily raise taxes on coal producers during the energy crisis.
12/6/1982 – He voted for a 5 cent increase in the gasoline tax.
6/26/1984 – He voted to strengthen control and increase federal regulations on water.
He voted to raise the national debt ceiling in 1979, 1980, 1981 & 1984.
In 1984, he supported a $50 billion tax bill that eliminated a tax break on interest income, increased cigarette taxes, and raised taxes on distilled liquor.
10/26/1984 – He voted for Title IX and age discrimination changes to the 1964 Civil Rights Act with a specific exclusion for black Universities and colleges.
04/02/1987 – He cosponsored the 1987 Fairness Doctrine. The doctrine was an attempt to silence critics in the media and have the government determine a balance of viewpoints in media.
12/17/87-He voted for $307milion for continuation of the Endangered Species Act. This haunts us to this day.
3/28/90 – He voted to elevate Environmental Protection Agency to Cabinet-level status. A vote for more and bigger government.
5/23/90 – He voted for the badly misnamed Clean Air bill. An environmentalist’s dream.
7/26/90 - He voted no on a resolution by Rep. William Dannemeyer (R-CA) to expel Rep. Barney Frank (D-MA) for felony criminal offenses related to his homosexual activities.
3/21/91 – He voted for $40 billion for the unconstitutional bailout of failed savings and loan institutions.
6/26/91 – He voted for $52.6 billion for agriculture program subsidies, and food stamps.
10/5/92 – He voted for $66.5 billion for housing and community development grants.
In 1992, the House banking scandal revealed that Gingrich has run 22 overdrafts on his checking account, and this in spite of having voted himself a huge pay raise and having a taxpayer-provided, chauffeur-driven car.
10/22/1991 – He voted for an amendment that would create a National Police Corps.
March 1993 – He Voted for sending $1.6 Billion in foreign aid to Russia.
11/19/1993 – He voted for the NAFTA Implementation Act
In fact, Gingrich, fast-tracked NAFTA and GATT through Congress, in December of 1994, as a gift to Clinton, shortly before a new Republican Congress which would have likely defeated the treaties took control.
9/22/94 – He voted for $250.6 billion in appropriations for the Departments of Labor, HHS, and Education.
11/27/1994 – He supported the GATT Treaty giving sovereignty to the U.N.
04/25/1996 – Voted for the single largest increase in Federal education spending ($3.5 Billion).
04/10/1995 – He voted for a bill that also supported Federal tax dollars being spent on abortions.
In 1996 he voted for the Lautenberg gun ban which was supported by the Brady Campaign against guns. These changes in the law gave the right to strip second amendment rights for certain misdemeanors. He vocally defended the Lautenberg gun ban on Meet the Press in September of 1996. Because of this, he received a “D” rating from Gun Owners of America (GOA) that year.
01/22/1997 – Congress gave him a $300,000 fine for ethical wrongdoing.
In 1998, he derided a group of House conservatives by calling them the “the perfectionist caucus” for opposing a 4,000-page omnibus spending bill, adding that “those of us who have grown up and matured in this process understand after the last four years that we have to work together on big issues.”
In 2003, when he urged “every conservative member of Congress” to support the Medicare drug benefit bill. He called it the “most important reorganization of our nation’s healthcare system since the original Medicare Bill of 1965.” The drug benefit now costs taxpayers over $60 billion a year and has almost $16 trillion in unfunded liabilities.
11/29/2006 – He said that free speech should be curtailed in order to fight terrorism. He called for a “serious debate about the 1st Amendment.”
In the mid-2000s, he partnered with then-Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.) to promote a centrist solution to fixing the nation’s health care system.

In 2006, he wrote these quotes:
“Finally, Congress should tie education funding to school accountability. The No Child Left Behind law is making it blaringly obvious just how many schools are crippling and destroying children. We should save the children. Congress should require school systems to institute metrics-based performance standards in order to receive federal funding to ensure that every child is getting the education that they deserve.”
“Every conservative member of Congress should vote for this Medicare bill. It is the most important reorganization of our nation’s healthcare system since the original Medicare Bill of 1965 and the largest and most positive change in direction for the health system in 60 years for people over 65.”
“Congress should allow seniors to get the drugs they need by adding a prescription drug benefit to Medicare.”
Gingrich strongly supported Medicare Part D, and in a 2006 op-ed lauded the virtues of it during the first year of its implementation.
02/15/2007 – He supported Bush’s proposal for mandatory carbon caps. More global warming crap.
04/17/2008 – Made a commercial with Nancy Pelosi on Climate Change.
In late 2008, when he backed the $700 billion Wall Street bailout. While he was initially opposed to it, he “reluctantly” endorsed it when successful passage was uncertain in Congress and it looked like it may fail.
in his 2008 book “Real Change”, Gingrich advocated an individual mandate for health insurance. A similar mandate is central to ObamaCare and is being challenged by 26 states in court as being unconstitutional. Gingrich wrote then: “[I]ndividuals are expected to help pay for their care. Everyone should be required to have coverage.”
10/01/2008 – Says in an article he authored that TARP was a “workout, not a bailout.”
12/08/2008 – He was paid $300,000 by Freddie Mac as a consultant. His pay came from their lobbying division. Freddie and Fannie typically hired powerful politicians in both parties to purchase their silence on desperately needed mortgage reform.
In the 2009 special election for Congress in New York’s 23rd district, Gingrich was outspoken in his support of liberal Republican nominee Dede Scozzafava, up to the moment she finally quit the race after conservatives had rallied behind Conservative Party nominee Doug Hoffman. Long after most prominent conservatives had endorsed Hoffman, Gingrich held firm in his advocacy for a liberal candidate who supported Obama’s stimulus plan and the pro-union “card check” proposal, among other bad positions.
In that NY-23 race, for instance, Gingrich went so far as to attack conservatives who supported Hoffman (whom Gingrich belatedly endorsed himself), saying: “So I say to my conservative friends who suddenly decided that whether they’re from Minnesota or Alaska or Texas, they know more than the upstate New York Republicans? I don’t think so.”
Gingrich also aggressively supported and campaigned for liberal Congressman Wayne Gilchrist (R-MD) when he faced a conservative challenge from current Congressman Andy Harris who won in the primary.
In 2006, Gingrich also backed liberal Congressman Joe Schwarz (R-MI) when he was challenged by the conservative candidate, Congressman Tim Walberg who won in the primary.
01/30/2011 – He suggested that flex-fuel vehicles be mandated for Americans. More support of ethanol subsidies.
02/15/2011 – His book said that he believes man-made climate-change and advocated creating “a new endowment for conservation and the environment.”
03/09/2011 – He blames his pattern of infidelity on working too hard. He said “There’s no question at times of my life, partially driven by how passionately I felt about this country, that I worked far too hard and things happened in my life that were not appropriate.”
03/15/2011 – Says in a radio interview that NAFTA worked because it created jobs in Mexico, Canada and on the whole, some in the US.
03/19/2011 – Says he has no regrets about supporting Medicare drug coverage. (Now $7.2T unfunded liability)
04/25/2011 – It was reported that Newt Gingrich earned some $600,000 over several years as a consultant to a major ethanol lobbying group that promoted ethanol subsidies.
08/01/2011 – He said: “I have six times as many Twitter followers as all the other candidates combined, but it didn’t count because if it counted I’d still be a candidate; since I can’t be a candidate that can’t count.” — Newt Gingrich, was complaining that the press was ignoring his prodigious Twitter following, which had numbered over 1.3 million people. More than 90% of those followers, however, turned out to be fake and the result of Gingrich’s campaign hiring a firm to boost his follower count by creating dummy accounts en masse.
2011 – He criticized a House GOP plan introduced by Paul Ryan to restructure Medicare entitlements as “right-wing social engineering”. This undercut a serious conservative proposal to rein in debt and spending.
2011 - Gingrich’s proposes a local “citizens” panel which could provide a form of legal amnesty to some illegal immigrants now in the country. This would effectively grant local jurisdictions like San Francisco the ability to permanently grant amnesty, a huge step forward from their current ability as non-enforcement zones for illegal immigration.
Gingrich said of himself;
“While I am a Republican leader in the Congress, I do not believe Republicans or the Congress have a monopoly on solving problems and helping America make the transformation necessary to enter the Third Wave information revolution. Democratic mayors like Norquist in Milwaukee and Rendel in Philadelphia are making real breakthroughs at the city level. Some of the best of Vice President Gore’s efforts to reinvent government nibble in the right direction...”
“I have enormous personal ambition. I want to shift the entire planet. And I’m doing it. I am now a famous person. I represent real power.”
“I’m not a natural leader. I’m too intellectual; I’m too abstract; I think too much.”


17 posted on 02/11/2012 6:48:56 PM PST by FresnoRobert (When born, you cried and the world rejoiced. Live your life so that when you die, it's reversed.)
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To: SatinDoll

I find your slander of Santorum while excusing Newt’s own recent “mistakes” amusing. However, his the revision of his own history while in congress is becoming Romney-esque...

Gun Owners of America: Newt Ain’t Great on 2nd Amendment Rights, Broke His Promise to America

http://thespeechatimeforchoosing.wordpress.com/2011/11/28/gun-owners-of-america-newt-aint-great-on-2nd-amendment-rights-broke-his-promise-to-america/

And yet the MYTH continues...


18 posted on 02/11/2012 7:00:26 PM PST by RasterMaster ("Towering genius disdains a beaten path." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: RasterMaster

Truth isn’t slander. And you gain nothing by shooting the messenger and bellowing about Newt Gingrich.


19 posted on 02/11/2012 7:08:23 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: SatinDoll
Saying Rick is anti-Tea Party was not true. Some people call that slander. You are the one who started posting lists. Lets compare. I posted one too.
20 posted on 02/11/2012 7:16:41 PM PST by FresnoRobert (When born, you cried and the world rejoiced. Live your life so that when you die, it's reversed.)
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To: FresnoRobert

Everything is known about Gingrich. So you hate his guts. I don’t care what you think or feel.

All I want is for voters to know as much as possible about who they are voting for, and aren’t surprised later when dirt they weren’t aware of begins to stick.

Many people voted for a Democrat in 1976 because they were ticked off at the Republican Party. Carter seemed so upright and Christian, married to the same woman for decades and he even taught Sunday school. Carter turned out to be a nightmare, mostly because voters didn’t have enough information to make an informed decision.

Having all the facts is important. Go ahead and post as much as you want about Gingrich - but it is already known!

And now it is time to vett Santorum and you want to do what - bury everything?


21 posted on 02/11/2012 7:41:59 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: SatinDoll

You opened up with a myth...”everyone knows about” Newt’s questionable “record” of holding conservative values. The more people learn it for themselves, the less support he has and the further he slips in polling and voting. Everything that followed was a fabrication as every other anti-Santorum screed you post, especially relying on Linseed GrAMNESTY’s word on any given subject.


22 posted on 02/11/2012 7:42:53 PM PST by RasterMaster ("Towering genius disdains a beaten path." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: SatinDoll
I don't hate Newt, far from it. I respect much of what he has done. You don't seem to care what anyone but you feels and it comes out in your posts. Pulling for your guy is fine but don't post hit pieces and not expect a response.
23 posted on 02/11/2012 8:01:58 PM PST by FresnoRobert (When born, you cried and the world rejoiced. Live your life so that when you die, it's reversed.)
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To: SatinDoll
I don't hate Newt, far from it. I respect much of what he has done. You don't seem to care what anyone but you feels and it comes out in your posts. Pulling for your guy is fine but don't post hit pieces and not expect a response.
24 posted on 02/11/2012 8:04:00 PM PST by FresnoRobert (When born, you cried and the world rejoiced. Live your life so that when you die, it's reversed.)
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To: RasterMaster

Oh, man...you’ve got it really bad. Accusing people on Free Republci is definiitely dangerous.
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Santorum Hits Gingrich, Romney to Kick Off Florida Swing
– January 23, 2012Posted in: Political News

In front of an enthusiastic crowd of 200 people that interrupted him several times with cheers of “Rick, Rick, Rick,” he said: “We are going to campaign all up and down the state of Florida.”

During the rally, Santorum hit both Newt Gingrich, who won the first-in-the-South primary on Saturday, and Mitt Romney, who placed second.

“Trust is a big issue in this election,” he said. “Who do you trust is going to do what they say they are going to do?”

“You look at the record of someone who was the governor of Massachusetts and, well, didn’t necessarily govern all that conservatively,” Santorum said, before introducing a new attack on Gingrich.

“You look at someone who was speaker of the House, and again, these are friends, I know they are good people, but when Newt was speaker of the House, well, within three years the conservatives within the House of Representatives tried to throw him out, and in the fourth year they did. Why? Because he wasn’t governing as a conservative,” Santorum said. “He didn’t live up to all the hype.”

Santorum, standing on a stage in a strip mall parking lot outside of Wings Plus, said he was the “conservative firebrand” other Republicans would come to if they needed help with legislation.

“We were the one standing up and fighting,” Santorum said. “I was the go-to guy.”

“It’s great to be glib, but it’s best to be principled. It’s better to have all of your ducks in a row,” Santorum said. “It’s better to have someone of principal, someone who has been there, someone who’s not afraid when they are getting accused of being intolerant or whatever the case may be stands up and says, ‘I’m not, I’m not and I believe what I did was right.’”

http://www.eastidahonews.com/2012/01/santorum-hits-gingrich-romney-to-kick-off-florida-swing/
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“Trust is a big issue in this election...”

Yep. It sure is.

Rick Santorum’s School Scandal

How the public-school-loathing GOP candidate used Pennsylvania’s taxpayer dollars to school his kids in Virginia.

Santorum has campaigned on the fact that his seven kids have been home-schooled, which has earned him a loyal following of foot soldiers within the evangelical movement. (The same goes for Rep. Michele Bachmann, who on Tuesday dropped out of the presidential race.) Over the past year, Santorum has appeared at a handful of home-schooling conferences. In April, he won the Home School Legal Defense Association’s straw poll. There’s even a “Homeschoolers for Santorum” Facebook page.

But Santorum wasn’t always so opposed to government-run schools—especially one Pennsylvania cyber charter school that offered students free computers, internet service, and online classes. Between 2001 and 2004, that online school allowed the Santorum family to live in Virginia, while sticking Pennsylvania taxpayers with a $100,000 bill.

In 2004, Santorum spawned a minor scandal when news broke that he was no longer residing in the state that sent him to Congress and was living instead outside the Beltway in Leesburg, Virginia. Santorum owned, and still does, a house in Penn Hills, Pennsylvania, next door to his in-laws. The Santorums bought the three-bedroom house in 1997 for $87,800. But after Santorum got elected to the Senate in 1994, he bought a much larger home in Virginia that would accommodate his ever-growing family. Some relatives moved into the Penn Hills house, but Santorum continued to use it to claim residency in Pennsylvania, where he voted by absentee ballot.

Despite moving his family to Virginia, Santorum didn’t enroll his children in a local public school. Nor did the Santorums simply home-school the kids. Instead, in 2001, they enrolled five of their kids in the Pennsylvania Cyber Charter School, based out of tiny Beaver County, Pennsylvania. The school was founded by Nick Trombetta, a former wrestling coach who set up an online charter school in a depopulated part of the state and turned it into a financial powerhouse that rakes in millions annually in public education funds. (In 2007, Trombetta, a major Republican donor in the state, was the subject of a state grand jury investigation into his use of millions in public funds to build a performing arts center near the school’s headquarters, among other things. No charges have been brought.)

Considered a public school, the online charter’s students are required to take state-mandated assessments and meet other formal requirements not demanded of traditional home-schoolers. But it offers home-schoolers lots of advantages, notably free computers and internet connections. When Santorum enrolled his kids there, the local school district in Penn Hills was forced to pick up the tab for the cyber school, which cost the district $38,000 a year for the Santorum children.

After four years, the press got wind of this in 2004, and Democrats raised a fuss about the fact that their senator didn’t actually live in Pennsylvania, much less the Penn Hills school district that was footing the bills for his children’s education in Virginia. The local school board, which included a member who was the local Democratic Party committee chair, attempted to force Santorum to repay the district $100,000 in tuition.

When the scandal broke, Trombetta, the founder of the charter school, offered to let Santorum’s kids stay enrolled for free if Santorum would pay the technology costs. In the end, with Democrats challenging his residency in the state, Santorum withdrew his kids from the school. He never repaid a dime. The state ended up settling with the school district and repaying $55,000 in tuition fees. (The Santorum campaign did not respond to a request for comment.)

Even today, nearly eight years after the charter school scandal, Santorum’s residency issues continue to dog him. On the campaign trail, distancing himself from the dreaded Washington insider label, he has highlighted his Pennsylvania roots.

In August, at a campaign event in Iowa, he handed out samples of “Pennsylvania Presidential Peach Preserves,” which he claimed were made by his family from peaches they picked off their trees back home. But as the Roxborough-Manayunk, Pennsylvania, Patch pointed out on Tuesday, there’s not a peach tree to be found anywhere near the Santorum home in Penn Hills...

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Here’s another on the same issue, this one from a RC nun.

7/21/2005
A great letter-to-the-editor in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette from a CATHOLIC NUN:

“Sen. Rick Santorum and his wife have taught their children a powerful lesson on civic responsibility by refusing to pay any tuition money to the Penn Hills School District for their children who attended the Pennsylvania Cyber Charter School ... Released from that payment on a technicality shows that even an upstanding, moral gentleman like Sen. Santorum teaches his children the following lessons:

1) Take advantage of the system whenever you can.
2) The little guy pays while the rich and powerful guy gets away with it.
3) As a Catholic, you have no obligation to pay your share to the common good in spite of Catholic social doctrine. “

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05202/541074.stm
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Nothing beats a good old-fashioned butt-whooping from a nun!


25 posted on 02/11/2012 8:06:02 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: SatinDoll
enthusiastic crowd of ... 200 people

ROFLMAO

26 posted on 02/11/2012 8:08:34 PM PST by Marguerite (When I'm goodDuring his years in the Senat, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: SatinDoll

You are repeating the Democrat talking points from that election. You should be proud. By the way, you know that some nuns and priests are liberal don’t you? People that write to a paper can even be working for the other side. Is that the smoking gun you have? Pathetic!

The last time I checked, Rick was on the right side of TARP, Health Care and Global Warming. Your guy wasn’t. But your point is his kids schooling?

I would love to have parents who home schooled their kids with a Christ centered education occupy the White House. Liberals heads will explode!


27 posted on 02/11/2012 8:16:08 PM PST by FresnoRobert (When born, you cried and the world rejoiced. Live your life so that when you die, it's reversed.)
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To: FresnoRobert

“I don’t hate Newt, far from it.”

That’s cool. I don’t hate Santorum.

In fact, I’ve said on Free Republic that he should go home to Pennsylvania and run for governor of that state. He wins and governs like a Conservative, I would support him in a run for President.

But his record and character, at this point in time, needs some maturing that can only come from experience.

Every national election I research the candidates. In 2008 I kept finding that information about Obama was being scrubbed off the internet very quickly. So, I turned to news outlets and magazines in Africa. Those publication had lots of interviews where Obama, his wife Michelle, and lots of Obama relatives all said the same thing: BHO2 was born in Kenya.

I try hard to keep people informed about candidates. They don’t always like the information and so I get a bit crispy around the edges from flames. Oh, well!


28 posted on 02/11/2012 8:18:07 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: SatinDoll
Acusing who? Another cut-n-paste screed that had nothing to do with the subject at hand? Or was that just more delusions of grandeur...following the Paultard model of "conservatism". Newtered Newt could benefit from learning what a real "conservative" actually is....


29 posted on 02/11/2012 8:19:22 PM PST by RasterMaster ("Towering genius disdains a beaten path." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: FresnoRobert

I home schooled my kid and didn’t steal from the school district to do it, either.


30 posted on 02/11/2012 8:22:13 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: RasterMaster

Jim Robinson supports Newt Gingrich whole heartedly.

You should be careful who you smear.


31 posted on 02/11/2012 8:23:49 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: SatinDoll

I just googled the “Nun” who’s letter to the editor you cite. She belongs to a liberal group of nuns that “operate outside the structure of the Catholic Church” acording to their Facebook page. They have a link to an They dress in everything from miniskirts to medieval mantles. They do everything from classroom teaching to police work. One has a job with Cesar Chavez, another with Ralph Nader. There is a deputy attorney general and an Air Force lieutenant. They live in inner-city slums, in posh suburbs, on farms, even in the desert. They come singly, by the dozen and in battalions. They are the new American nuns who, in the decade since the Second Vatican Council first provided the inspiration, have streamed out of their centuries-old enclosures into the modern world....”

They are most likely all lesbians.

Do you have any more DNC or Romney talking points????

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,942531,00.html#ixzz1m8agDBt4article in Time that starts off....”


32 posted on 02/11/2012 8:27:45 PM PST by FresnoRobert (When born, you cried and the world rejoiced. Live your life so that when you die, it's reversed.)
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To: SatinDoll

I don’t tell Jim or anyone else on Free Republic who to support or who not to, nor does he (or anyone else with any bit of credibility) instruct me who to support...I think you could follow the same advice, but I know that’s not allowed in your imaginary world.


33 posted on 02/11/2012 8:31:16 PM PST by RasterMaster ("Towering genius disdains a beaten path." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: RasterMaster; FresnoRobert

Everything I’ve stated here on this thread is going to be thrown at Rick Santorum by Democrats.

Nothing messes up a candidate quicker than the opposition finding questionable issues involving money or hypocrisy. Or worse, a candidate who has made grandoise claims that do not hold up under close scrutiny.

His constituents were really ticked off about his supporting Specter in a past election, and some others mentioned to me the schooling issue involving money.

These issues are out there and must be addressed head on. Striking out at me or at Gingrich is not constructive. If you want to help the candidate of your choice, get the facts out there and stop shooting the messenger!


34 posted on 02/11/2012 8:31:23 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: RasterMaster

You keep bringing up Gingrich, yet he isn’t the subject of this thread. I’m not telling you who to support.

Unfortunately, you seem to be afraid to look at Santorum’s past.

Why is that?


35 posted on 02/11/2012 8:34:59 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: SatinDoll

You are the one posting the lies. Saying that the Demoncrats are going to do it is a poor excuse.


36 posted on 02/11/2012 8:36:37 PM PST by FresnoRobert (When born, you cried and the world rejoiced. Live your life so that when you die, it's reversed.)
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To: FresnoRobert

Shooting the messenger is something I expect from liberals.

So you think this nun is a lesbian? What does that have to do with the fact the Santorums may have ripped off a school district to the tune of $100,000?

And Cesar Chavez has been dead for over 10 years. Good grief!


37 posted on 02/11/2012 8:42:24 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: SatinDoll

Everything you chose to ignore will also be discussed regarding Newt. I say bring it on...I’ll gladly take on their smears as a challenge to be battled on the field of their choosing.

I understand about Santorum’s “support” of Snarlin’ Arlen given they were from the same state and the support got us both Justices Roberts and Alito. What did Newt’s support for Dede Scuzzyflava get anyone? Oh yea, zip-zero-nada.

Instead of striking out at me in pointing out Newt’s flaws or attempting to cover them up with generic band-aids, I’m more than happy to get them out there so that he doesn’t stab us in the back again like he did when he stated: “As long as I am Speaker of this House, no gun control legislation is going to move in committee or on the floor of this House and there will be no further erosion of their rights.” then supported and pushed the most anti-gun legislation concieved by the most LIEberal jackasses in congress.

I realize we have no “perfect” candidate and no candiate who I could be in 100% agreement with 100% of their career. I’m not looking for “perfection”...I’m looking for honesty. What is the MOST IMPORTANT issue for this or any election?
LIFE and the ability to DEFEND IT! If you get those two issues correct it is almost guaranteed everything else will fall into place. I hate to break it to you (since you’re one of his primary cheerleaders here), Newt’s record on both is less than promising.


38 posted on 02/11/2012 8:43:49 PM PST by RasterMaster ("Towering genius disdains a beaten path." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: FresnoRobert

I am saying that voters should be familiar with the past histories of candidates.

Accusing me of being a liar is the last refuge of a person afraid to look at what has been written about their candidate, whether it be true or false.


39 posted on 02/11/2012 8:45:44 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: RasterMaster

Go ahead, post a thread about Newt Gingrich’s past record.


40 posted on 02/11/2012 8:47:24 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: SatinDoll

I have debunked several of your “allegations”. What do you call untruths?


41 posted on 02/11/2012 8:48:16 PM PST by FresnoRobert (When born, you cried and the world rejoiced. Live your life so that when you die, it's reversed.)
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To: SatinDoll

I already did and you just ignored it. Crickets. All A-OK with you obviously.


42 posted on 02/11/2012 8:49:40 PM PST by FresnoRobert (When born, you cried and the world rejoiced. Live your life so that when you die, it's reversed.)
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To: Wiz
I was expecting Newt would be the front runner, and supported him as the realistic figure to defeat Mitt, but as Santorum continues to win several states, I believe it is time to switch over, and unite our support for Santorum. Newt may still be selected as Vice President, and I support that too, since his experience in the congress for pulling strings is valuable.

Santorum is just the flavor of the day, he will tank just like the rest of them. If it is between Santorum and Romney ,Romney wins. Our only chance to turn things around is Newt Gingrich.

43 posted on 02/11/2012 8:57:21 PM PST by Irish Eyes
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To: SatinDoll

As Sarah Palin said in her CPAC speech regarding our remaining candidates:

“We do not know who our nominee will be to come up against Burro-ak Oh-bama and his failed policies in the fall - we don’t know who our nominee will be. But we know that this election will be hard fought. Our nominee must be ready, strong, fortefied, passionate, passionate, a fighter for American ideals. Our candidate must be someone who can instinctively TURN RIGHT to constitutional conservarive principles. It’s too late in the game to teach it or to spin it. It’s either there or it isn’t.”

If I post Newt’s own words, his rabid supporters get foaming-at-the-mouth angry. I don’t need to “smear” Newt...he does so all on his own. I’ll nominate him first mayor for the moon colony...will that make you happy?


44 posted on 02/11/2012 8:58:20 PM PST by RasterMaster ("Towering genius disdains a beaten path." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: FresnoRobert

I know that Santorum stabbed his former mentor in the back.

I will never, ever vote for a person who does such a thing. They can not be trusted.


45 posted on 02/11/2012 8:59:48 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: Irish Eyes

Yea, the ONLY chance is to pull down one who’s won 4 states and rising for the one who’s won only one state and is DECLINING in the polls...makes “perfect” sense...NOT!


46 posted on 02/11/2012 9:00:45 PM PST by RasterMaster ("Towering genius disdains a beaten path." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: RasterMaster

Don’t bother. I have the measure of you, and feel sorry for you.


47 posted on 02/11/2012 9:05:09 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: SatinDoll

You’d rather vote for a candidate that stabbed EVERY second-amendment conservative in the back? Makes sense...gee, thanks!

http://thespeechatimeforchoosing.wordpress.com/2011/11/28/gun-owners-of-america-newt-aint-great-on-2nd-amendment-rights-broke-his-promise-to-america/


48 posted on 02/11/2012 9:05:20 PM PST by RasterMaster ("Towering genius disdains a beaten path." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: RasterMaster

You are suffering from Gingrich derangement syndrome.


49 posted on 02/11/2012 9:06:29 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: RasterMaster

She’s not worth our time. She says she’s doing everyone a favor by posting lies because after all, the Demoncrats are going to do it. Theres no reasoning with someone who thinks like that. I’m going to bed.


50 posted on 02/11/2012 9:09:16 PM PST by FresnoRobert (When born, you cried and the world rejoiced. Live your life so that when you die, it's reversed.)
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