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Dems claim victory in birth-control fight despite Obama shift
TheHill.com ^ | 2/11/12 | Mike Lillis

Posted on 02/11/2012 4:36:38 PM PST by Republican Wildcat

The fierce debate over women's access to contraception is far from over this year, but Democrats this week are claiming victory in the fight's early round.

The Democratic National Committee (DNC) on Saturday shot an email to supporters highlighting President Obama's recent plan to provide female workers – even those employed by Catholic hospitals, universities and charities – free access to birth control.

An angry backlash against an earlier version of that plan led Obama to tweak the proposal Friday by shifting the cost burden for contraceptives from the church-backed employers to the insurance companies.

"President Obama has set a standard that every woman has a right to contraception coverage at no additional cost," the DNC email says, "and he's done it in a way that respects religious freedoms."

An accompanying YouTube video, which includes excerpts from Obama's Friday press conference announcing the change, aims to highlight the sharp distinction between the president's compromise and a proposal – being drafted by Republicans – to repeal the birth-control mandate for employers.

"Who do you think should make decisions about contraception?" the ad asks. "You, or your employer?"

The Democrats are hoping not only to rally favor from liberals who are widely supportive of protecting women's access to contraception, but also to allay any fears that Catholic Democrats might have about Obama's new policy.

Although studies indicate that contraception use among Catholic women is nearly universal, the pill, condoms and other forms of birth control are forbidden under Catholic doctrine – a policy reinforced Friday when the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops issued a statement condemning Obama's compromise plan.

"All the other mandated 'preventive services' prevent disease, and pregnancy is not a disease," the bishops said.

Meanwhile, House GOP leaders are crafting legislation to overturn Obama's mandate. Rep. Fred Upton (R-Mich.), chairman of the Energy and Commerce Committee, said Wednesday that the panel will vote “in the coming weeks” to repeal the new requirement.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; contraceptionmandate; democrats; demotrash; liberalfascism; obama; obamacare; waronreligion
"Who do you think should make decisions about contraception?" the ad asks. "You, or your employer?"

Framing the debate on a false premise...as is typical. The question is what gives the President of the United States the authority to just declare what health care policies will or will not be for employers (or anyone else) from a podium? Where and when did it become acceptable if people support a policy that the President can just act as an absolute monarch and just declare something into existance?

1 posted on 02/11/2012 4:36:47 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Republican Wildcat

Yeah...and insurance is a state issue.....obambi butt out...


2 posted on 02/11/2012 4:39:57 PM PST by spokeshave (Mitt will release his tax returns when 0bambi releases his Birth Certificate and grades)
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To: Republican Wildcat

A bit early in a long and ferocious war, for the arrogant democrat party vermin to declare victory.


3 posted on 02/11/2012 4:42:51 PM PST by FormerACLUmember
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To: Republican Wildcat
Duuuhh! Da Pres-statutes simply don't get it. This is not about contraception. It is about Religious freedom guaranteed under the constitution, but granted by GOD. You know that word that the left never invokes.

This is about more than Catholics, it is a shot across the bow of ALL Christians, Jews and some other faiths. Obozo has declared War on all of us. It IS TIME, to politically give him what he asked for. A unified American against this Quisling Dictator-want-to-be will devastate the Left in November. Bring it on.

4 posted on 02/11/2012 4:43:44 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Republican Wildcat

What obama shift?


5 posted on 02/11/2012 4:45:20 PM PST by sport
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To: Republican Wildcat
It's going to be hard to overcome the communists push the rest of King Obama’s term. If he get another four America is finished.
6 posted on 02/11/2012 4:45:49 PM PST by Logical me
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To: Republican Wildcat
Yes - a false premise. And tossing the burden onto the insurance companies is a meaningless change. Any cost to the ins. co. will of course be passed on to the subscribers by means of premium increases. So the individual subscriber is forced to pay for birth control, abortifacients and abortions despite what his or her religious beliefs may be. Just another shell game from the flim-flam president.



Etiam non princeps sed usque ad genua, Principis Pacis!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

7 posted on 02/11/2012 4:48:58 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: ConorMacNessa

I don’t want to be forced to pay to kill people. Really.


8 posted on 02/11/2012 4:49:50 PM PST by hal ogen (1st Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Logical me

I would like to see an Billboard saying Obama is trying to kill off the black race


9 posted on 02/11/2012 4:50:04 PM PST by mriguy67
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To: Republican Wildcat

The dems will prop-up Obamas failures no matter what they are. They have invested to much in this arrogant fool.

Obama is like Captain Schettino from the doomed Costa Concordia. He will man the lifeboats while everyone fights to survive. He’ll let his crew do his job.

I hope the democrat party sinks with their socialist leader.


10 posted on 02/11/2012 4:52:44 PM PST by mardi59 ( Newt brings hope, and CHANGE is coming. 2012)
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To: Republican Wildcat; Graewoulf; VinceASA; Monkey Face; RIghtwardHo; pieces of time; Warthog-2; ...
"President Obama has set a standard that every woman has a right to contraception coverage at no additional cost," the DNC email says,

"President Obama has set a standard that every woman has a right to contraception coverage at no additional cost," the DNC email says,


11 posted on 02/11/2012 4:54:21 PM PST by narses
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To: Republican Wildcat
An angry backlash against an earlier version of that plan led Obama to tweak the proposal Friday by shifting the cost burden for contraceptives from the church-backed employers to the insurance companies, which will pass on the costs to all their policyholders in the form of higher premiums. In effect, we will ALL be subsidizing abortions and contraception.
12 posted on 02/11/2012 4:56:26 PM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class!)
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To: Republican Wildcat

The Satanic One has decided that if you want to have a live child you need to pay a 20% co-pay, but that you can kill your child for free.


13 posted on 02/11/2012 4:59:40 PM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class!)
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To: Republican Wildcat

This reminds me of the old saying, “it’s like watching your mother-in-law drive over a cliff in a brand new car, you just don’t know how to feel.”

While I am completely opposed to forcing the rest of us to pay for any of this, the little voice in the back of my head keeps reminding me that most of the people that this will prevent from having children,,,,,I really don’t want having children in the first place.

Very conflicting emotions.


14 posted on 02/11/2012 5:00:58 PM PST by I cannot think of a name
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To: Republican Wildcat

They did win. Obama’s “accommodation” is meaningless. The mandate remains, it’s just on the institution’s insurance company now.


15 posted on 02/11/2012 5:04:20 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: Republican Wildcat
President Obama's recent plan to provide female workers – even those employed by Catholic hospitals, universities and charities – free access to birth control.

Rats have absolutely no idea what "free" really means. All they are doing is mandating that the church purchase insurance (or self insure) that they are morally opposed to.

16 posted on 02/11/2012 5:05:50 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: Republican Wildcat

Good points. If the president can order insurance companies to provide “free” birth control and abortion drugs, then he can literally order them to provide anything else he wants. Plus, anyone who thinks the cost isn’t ultimately paid by the employer and employees is an idiot. The cost of “free” birth control will be shifted to the employer premiums where it becomes a business expense like any other.

This is less about religion and far more about a president and political party that is using government to divide and conquer us. A lot of women are going to fall for this. It’s about getting free stuff at someone else’s expense, but they simply either don’t see where this leads or don’t care.

When a special interest uses government to steal from their neighbors, do you think the neighbors will take that lying down? No! The neighbors will ultimately use the same powers to pursue their interests, and there goes the civil society that created this great country (and economy) in the first place.


17 posted on 02/11/2012 5:09:29 PM PST by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is a challenge worth striving for.)
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To: Republican Wildcat

If you are employed as a prostitute, your employer should be made to provide birth control.

If you are not it is your choice to fornicate and should supply your own.


18 posted on 02/11/2012 5:09:53 PM PST by Venturer
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To: FormerACLUmember

They just needed an edge of the wedge to win.


19 posted on 02/11/2012 5:16:39 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Republican Wildcat
"Who do you think should make decisions about contraception?" the ad asks. "You, or your employer?"

False argument. The Church's refusal to pay for it does not stop anyone from getting it on their own. If you want birth control, pay for it yourself!

20 posted on 02/11/2012 5:18:35 PM PST by Petrosius
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To: Republican Wildcat

This is part of the Kenyan’s plan to kill off private insurance. Declaring “free” contraceptives and no premium increase does not compute.

Talk about unconstitutional mandate...


21 posted on 02/11/2012 5:20:21 PM PST by y6162
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To: Texas Fossil

Well, yes it involves religious freedom, but ask yourself if you would support a presidential mandate that all insurance companies provide free eye exams and glasses. That’s certainly a health care issue that affects most Americans. Even those who don’t need glasses still need periodic exams, right?

In order to do business, the company is obligated to provide something free. I equate this to extortion. Apply it to other businesses. What if all gas stations were obligated to provide free oil changes, or grocery stores were obligated to give out free bread? It’s the same thing. Now a lot of Americans might like free bread and oil changes, but it didn’t work in the Soviet Union and won’t work in America.

BTW, what about people who are opposed to abortion drugs for non-religious reasons?


22 posted on 02/11/2012 5:21:32 PM PST by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is a challenge worth striving for.)
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To: Republican Wildcat

Dear Lord,

Please let this abomination be struck down in it’s entirety when SCOTUS decides this case in June. Then we’ll be rid of this monster-for now.


23 posted on 02/11/2012 5:24:20 PM PST by SaintDismas
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To: Republican Wildcat

We ought to make the ‘rats personally pay for all the “free” stuff they buy votes with.


24 posted on 02/11/2012 5:28:18 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: CitizenUSA
You are talking about Obozo’s “spin fix”, not the original problem. The spin fix was about shifting this away from the religious groups onto the insurance companies. He has no lega authority to do that.....

But he is the Obastard (who is not bound by any law) and he does it anyway. For now.

Soon the day of reckoning will be here.

25 posted on 02/11/2012 5:28:37 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: CitizenUSA
"...were obligated to give out free bread? "

Throw in some circus tickets and you're on....

26 posted on 02/11/2012 5:30:31 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: SaintDismas

The RATS have really crossed a line with this whole health care thing. Whether it is morning after pills or toe fungus cream..why is the Federal Govt able to use all their power to force individuals, employers and insurance companies to supply anything free? This needs to be fast tracked to the Supreme Court..plus these outrageous people need to be voted out of office. This is the first issue that got my wife to write all our Congresscritters at the same time.


27 posted on 02/11/2012 5:31:46 PM PST by Oldexpat
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To: Paladin2

Paladin2: “Throw in some circus tickets and you’re on.... “

Nice!


28 posted on 02/11/2012 5:37:32 PM PST by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is a challenge worth striving for.)
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To: CitizenUSA
"...then he can literally order them to provide anything else he wants."

Wait until he orders that electric cars be insured without cost.

29 posted on 02/11/2012 5:37:48 PM PST by LZ_Bayonet ( I AM THE TEA PARTY LEADER !)
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To: spokeshave
...hold it...draw a sketch showing the cash flow... where the hell is the victory?????? Somebody still pays the bills for this nonsense!!!
30 posted on 02/11/2012 5:43:51 PM PST by ptsal (E)
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To: Oldexpat

I hear you friend. I am so furious about this, more than I have EVER been about anything so far that Obama has ever done. I have to pray constantly not to let Satan tempt me, and teach me to hate. I have to fight against this with everything my will can muster and rely on the Lord for the grace not to hate this man and those of his ilk.

I prayed for Obama today for the very first time. Only God Himself can save him from the fires of hell. Knowing what I have heard and read about hell, I can’t wish it on anyone, no matter how blinding mad I get.


31 posted on 02/11/2012 5:44:57 PM PST by SaintDismas
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To: Texas Fossil

Texas Fossil: “You are talking about Obozo’s “spin fix”, not the original problem.”

Not really. What about non-religious people who don’t think abortion is moral? Is this really about freedom of religion or private property rights? I think the latter.

Granted, the states and federal government have been doing this for years. This just happens to be more blatant. Governments have mandated that insurance companies cover certain things for some time. I don’t see myself getting pregnant...ever...but in some states I can’t buy a policy that doesn’t cover maternity care.

http://www.statehealthfacts.org/comparetable.jsp?ind=687&cat=7&sort=1558

It’s one thing to say an insurance company has to honor the policies it writes, keep a certain amount of funding available to pay claims, etc. It’s something else (for government) to force a company to cover certain things as a price for doing business. It’s also not the same thing for government to mandate I have to buy something I don’t want in order to get what I do want. Even worse, there’s absolutely nothing in the US Constitution that gives the federal government the right to intrude in this.


32 posted on 02/11/2012 5:55:40 PM PST by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is a challenge worth striving for.)
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To: FormerACLUmember
A bit early in a long and ferocious war, for the arrogant democrat party vermin to declare victory.

Victory is exactly what it is unless we the people overturn it.

33 posted on 02/11/2012 6:00:51 PM PST by itsahoot (I will Vote for Palin, even if I have to write her in.(Recycled Tagline))
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To: Republican Wildcat

Somebody with greater computer skills than I should morph debbie blabbermouth-shiite’s head onto Baghdad Bob’s body.


34 posted on 02/11/2012 6:00:55 PM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: Texas Fossil
This is about more than Catholics, it is a shot across the bow of ALL Christians, Jews and some other faiths. Obozo has declared War on all of us.

True, and thankfully, more groups of other faiths ARE speaking out about it.

35 posted on 02/11/2012 6:01:22 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: Texas Fossil
This is about more than Catholics, it is a shot across the bow of ALL Christians, Jews and some other faiths. Obozo has declared War on all of us.

True, and thankfully, more groups of other faiths ARE speaking out about it.

36 posted on 02/11/2012 6:01:40 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: I cannot think of a name
the little voice in the back of my head keeps reminding me that most of the people that this will prevent from having children,,,,,I really don’t want having children in the first place.

Those people don't even bother with contraception, so it won't affect them at all.

37 posted on 02/11/2012 6:07:35 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: FormerACLUmember

Could someone please photoshop a picture of an imperious looking Nancy Pelosi dressed as the Pope?


38 posted on 02/11/2012 6:09:56 PM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: CitizenUSA
My point is that only after he was smacked down for his mandate did he decide to force insurance companies to add the coverage.

Subterfuge.

The original problem is not about birth control. The original problem is an issue of Freedom of Religion. An issue so important to our founders that it was written in the 1st Amendment to the Constitution. They stated that those right were granted by God, not the government. It is not the government's to remove...Ever.

39 posted on 02/11/2012 6:21:59 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Republican Wildcat

“President Obama has set a standard that every woman has a right to contraception coverage at no additional cost,” the DNC email says, “and he’s done it in a way that respects religious freedoms.”

Yep, screw anyone, anywhere, at no extra cost.


40 posted on 02/11/2012 6:29:03 PM PST by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: Republican Wildcat

This is like the arabs. The Israeli’s beat the living daylights out of them, and the survivors hold a victory celebration for the television cameras of the world MSM.


41 posted on 02/11/2012 6:48:01 PM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: sport
Exactly. The EMPLOYERS were never going to be providing anything except the availability. The most glorious omnipotent one has decreed that the insurance companies (the ACTUAL provider all along) must make it available, presumably even if the EMPLOYER has religious convictions that dictate otherwise. NOTHING CHANGED. To-ma-to. To-mat-o.
If this idiot is reelected in November, I hope the Mayans are right because either way, this country is toast. Liberty and Freedom will be erased from the daily conversation.
42 posted on 02/11/2012 7:37:53 PM PST by cashless (Unlike Obama and his supporters, I'd rather be a TEA BAGGER than a TEA BAGGEE.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

It’s not (1) free and (2) it’s not birth control.


43 posted on 02/11/2012 8:05:53 PM PST by STJPII
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44 posted on 02/11/2012 9:27:08 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: Republican Wildcat
"All the other mandated 'preventive services' prevent disease, and pregnancy is not a disease," the bishops said.

I've been using the same argument - pregnancy isn't a disease and a baby is not a tumor.

Besides, Contraception is a convenience - why should we pay for someone else's convenience.

45 posted on 02/12/2012 5:21:59 AM PST by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: Republican Wildcat
It's not “free”. Someone pays for it and if not directly then indirectly. Since premiums will be going up for everyone then that's another lie by Obama when he said premiums will go down.
46 posted on 02/12/2012 6:25:56 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: Republican Wildcat

Wait until November to see what kind of victory the Democrats have in Obama’s mandate for insurance companies.


47 posted on 02/12/2012 9:16:18 AM PST by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: SaintDismas; Republican Wildcat
Please let this abomination be struck down in it’s entirety when
SCOTUS decides this case in June. Then we’ll be rid of this monster-for now.

so sorry...this issue(s) won't go away, the E-Communists never give-up.
even if the SCOTUS rules against them...then the E-RINOS shall propose same.
rules/laws are for man, not gods.

48 posted on 02/12/2012 9:36:17 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (Kill the terrorists, Protect (all) the borders, ridicule all the (remaining) Liberals :^)
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To: I cannot think of a name
most of the people that this will prevent from having children,,,,,

That's not up to us or Obama. That's up to God.

Obviously the larger point is the slashing of religious freedoms by Obama. Don't get wrapped up in the one issue without giving giving due attention to the other (and perhaps larger) one.

49 posted on 02/12/2012 7:23:46 PM PST by prairiebreeze (Who are you and what have you done with Ann Coulter?!)
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