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Obama: Soldiers in Afghanistan Must Be Fired Upon to Receive Combat Pay
Big Peace ^ | 2/11/12 | John Bernard

Posted on 02/11/2012 7:49:19 PM PST by Nachum

While I understand that only a fraction of the population of this nation is directly affected by what you are about to read, I would never-the-less like to remind you that the remainder of the population is affected coincidentally. While the majority of the American population probably never even considered the Armed Forces as a possible career objective, there are those who never considered life without serving their country, in uniform, on a field of combat. Most of these young men and women never take the time to internalize some idealized vision of charging death for God and Country,

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KEYWORDS: 2012; afghanistan; afghanwar; bhofascism; clowninchief; combat; combatpay; democrats; elections; fubo; gtfo; hazardpay; kenyanvillageidiot; military; nobama2012; obama; soldiers; standdownbarry
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Full title: Obama: Soldiers in Afghanistan Must Be Fired Upon to Receive Combat Pay
1 posted on 02/11/2012 7:49:32 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum

That must mean Hillary is due some back pay for her service as First Lady then.


2 posted on 02/11/2012 7:52:08 PM PST by Past Your Eyes (I'm not cut out to suffer fools like this.)
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To: Nachum

He doesn’t get to make that call.


3 posted on 02/11/2012 7:52:43 PM PST by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, Ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

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4 posted on 02/11/2012 7:52:49 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

Idiot. Nuf said.


5 posted on 02/11/2012 7:53:15 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (Romney=Gun Grabber.)
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To: Nachum
When the government really needs to cut spending, they start talking about finding the infamous "waste, fraud, and abuse".

And then they go and cut this? They couldn't find anything better to cut?

6 posted on 02/11/2012 7:54:20 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (I am pro-Jesus, anti-abortion, pro-limited government, anti-GOP.)
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To: Nachum

I can see the time cards now. Next it will be the amount of firing against the soldier, what type of firing, and if it was friendly fire or not. What a farce.


7 posted on 02/11/2012 7:56:40 PM PST by ProudFossil (" I never did give anyone hell. I just told the truth and they thought it was hell." Harry Truman)
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To: Nachum

So, if a FOB is mortared, does everyone on the FOB get combat pay? Is it only for that month? Or is pro-rated to number of days of enemy contact? Since enemy contact typically doesn’t last more than a few seconds (IEDs, rockets, mortars), can they pro-rate it to those seconds? That would save some money right there.

Now, let’s talk about increasing welfare payments...


8 posted on 02/11/2012 7:56:40 PM PST by Future Snake Eater (Don't stop. Keep moving!)
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To: Nachum

Doesn’t matter. All our guys have to do is to take turns saying “ I see something move” at the perimeter. Instant firefight.


9 posted on 02/11/2012 7:56:53 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: Nachum

W.T.F.


10 posted on 02/11/2012 7:57:07 PM PST by ncfool (The new USSA - United Socialist States of AmeriKa. Welcome to Obummers world or Obamaville USSA.)
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To: Nachum

Doesn’t matter. All our guys have to do is to take turns saying “ I see something move” at the perimeter. Instant firefight.


11 posted on 02/11/2012 7:57:10 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: Nachum
It's good to be the king...

12 posted on 02/11/2012 7:57:37 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: Nachum

W.T.F.


13 posted on 02/11/2012 7:57:58 PM PST by ncfool (The new USSA - United Socialist States of AmeriKa. Welcome to Obummers world or Obamaville USSA.)
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To: Future Snake Eater

A new Christmas Bonus system?


14 posted on 02/11/2012 8:00:57 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Nachum

What the hell, A Marine, Airman or Sailor might object to this classless and useless SON OF A BITCH! (Soldiers, I invite you to join in as well)


15 posted on 02/11/2012 8:00:57 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: Nachum

My nephew leaves Afghanistan and will be back stateside in 30 days.


16 posted on 02/11/2012 8:01:09 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: Nachum

Obama truly is the A$$hole president.
This act of denying service men combat pay unless they’re shot at is dispicable. Our military put their lives on the line by being there. They receive little enough pay for what they do. Denying them this small amount of money for their families is the work of a demented person without honor.


17 posted on 02/11/2012 8:02:36 PM PST by BuffaloJack (Defeat Obama. End Obama's War On Freedom.)
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To: ProudFossil

Are you sure they were shooting at you?

Can you prove it?


18 posted on 02/11/2012 8:03:17 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Repeal The 17th

>>It’s good to be the king

Yeah.

When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another....The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute tyranny over these states. To prove this, let facts be submitted to a candid world.

We dealt with a tyrant once. We can handle Il Douche.


19 posted on 02/11/2012 8:03:43 PM PST by Bryanw92 (The solution to fix Congress: Nuke em from orbit. It's the only way to be sure!)
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To: Repeal The 17th

I have one who will do the same in May.


20 posted on 02/11/2012 8:04:23 PM PST by Past Your Eyes (I'm not cut out to suffer fools like this.)
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To: Nachum

So I guess Obama doesn’t consider getting blown up by an IED actual combat?


21 posted on 02/11/2012 8:04:52 PM PST by SuziQ
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Said the CIC — of course I disagree with the requirement.


22 posted on 02/11/2012 8:05:41 PM PST by Gene Eric (C'mon, Virginia -- are you with us or against us?!)
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To: BuffaloJack

Whatever he is or whatever he is not, he is the wet dream come true for the majority of those that voted on november 4, 2008.


23 posted on 02/11/2012 8:05:41 PM PST by sport
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To: eyedigress

hasn’t there been enough disincentives for joining the military lately?


24 posted on 02/11/2012 8:05:41 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Repeal The 17th

prayers up for the neph.

Oh and I will state for the record I recvd combat zone pay when we ported (navy vet here) in the PI because the communist guerillas were acting up in the early 90s and I thought it was a farce - since I have tried to make amends for this fiasco as I felt it was an injustice for what it was intended. However, this boots on the ground denigration of our boys is beyond repulsive.


25 posted on 02/11/2012 8:07:35 PM PST by reed13k (Knight Rampant Bibliophile, Protector of Knowledge, Purveyor of Inquiry, Defender of Aged Wisdom, an)
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To: Nachum
Another outrage from the Obama Regime! As in Vietnam, the concept of "front lines" is irrelevant. All who have boots on the ground in Afghan are serving in a combat role. There is no "rear echelon" in a war where the enemy uses IED's and so-called "suicide bombers" at any time, anywhere in the theatre.

Combat pay is a portion of the Defense budget that is,or should be, awarded to any of our troops who are placed in harm's way in a theatre of combat, whether they are fired upon or not.

If the Obama Regime wants to save a few nickels, let it pursue some of the rampant welfare fraud and bloated social programs that do nothing other than suck tax dollars out of the hard-working middle class that keeps our economy going.



Etiam non princeps sed usque ad genua, Principis Pacis!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

26 posted on 02/11/2012 8:07:51 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: ProudFossil
I can see the time cards now. Next it will be the amount of firing against the soldier, what type of firing, and if it was friendly fire or not. What a farce.

Ya know, John Kerry was wounded in Viet Nam.

27 posted on 02/11/2012 8:08:11 PM PST by bgill (Romney & Obama are both ineligible. A non-NBC GOP prez shuts down all ?s on Obama's admin)
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To: Past Your Eyes

“That must mean Hillary is due some back pay for her service as First Lady then.”

Hahahaha...yeah, Old “Duck and Cover”HC should be reimbursed...that little girl giving her the flowers on the runway could have given her a nasty butterburn from those Daisys she was giving her...


28 posted on 02/11/2012 8:08:34 PM PST by jessduntno ("Newt Gingrich was part of the Reagan Revolution's Murderers' Row." - Jeffrey Lord, Reagan Admin.)
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To: eyedigress

FUBO!!!


29 posted on 02/11/2012 8:09:40 PM PST by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: GeronL

I would have a canteen full of bullet holes, for example, or other sundry equipment shot to pieces. To h3ll with it.


30 posted on 02/11/2012 8:10:25 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: Repeal The 17th

Our son returned from Afghanistan in June, 2011. Thankfully, he was whole, physically, but suffered a severe concussion when an IED took the 25 year old Platoon Leader’s legs and shattered his right arm. Our son was thrown back and hit his head. Our wonderful son had the presence of mind to be first to rush to his wounded friend and began First Aid. This was three weeks from coming home. When he first came home he was very emotionally damaged from PTSD. At Christmas when he came home he was better. The news last night is the Platoon leader is walking with prosthetic legs and Thank God his arm healed. Please keep prayers coming. This kind of change in policy is why we have to be resolute and make sure that Obama retires to private life on January 20, 3013!!!


32 posted on 02/11/2012 8:11:07 PM PST by Fran B (Love!)
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To: GeronL
hasn’t there been enough disincentives for joining the military lately?

Yep. One more reason my kid is getting out.

Too bad, because he's half-way to retirement.

33 posted on 02/11/2012 8:12:28 PM PST by MountainDad (Support your local Militia)
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To: Nachum

Plenty of money for cell phones, bankrupt car companies, failing banks, phoney green energy jobs that disappear, and cowboy poetry festivals but he’s cutting combat pay. He’s about as low as you can get.


34 posted on 02/11/2012 8:14:38 PM PST by hometoroost (Frodo lives!)
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To: GeronL; unkus

This has been the stupidest time in my life. If this jack-ass gets back in office after November, I will be very disappointed in my Country.


35 posted on 02/11/2012 8:16:00 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: Repeal The 17th

My nephew just arrived there, for, I think, a 6 month TDY.


36 posted on 02/11/2012 8:16:39 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: Fran B; reed13; Past Your Eyes; SuziQ

Fran B @32
reed13k @25
Past Your Eyes @20
SuziQ @36
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May GOD bless and watch over all of these boys.


37 posted on 02/11/2012 8:19:33 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: Nachum
IIRC, Slick Willy had tried something similar with combat pay and the award of CIBs and combat patches to personnel in Somalia prior to October '93, refusing to admit that our personnel were involved in any combat.

After October 3rd that year, it became impossible to deny.

38 posted on 02/11/2012 8:21:15 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: SuziQ

My nephew was home on leave in October when my mother died and he seemed normal. He’s a spook so sits in a room somewhere listening mostly, or whatever spooky things spooks do. But he was being sent out on patrols, too. He’s just a low ranking enlisted puke so who knows. If he told me what he was doing over there he’d probably have to kill me so I don’t ax.


39 posted on 02/11/2012 8:22:54 PM PST by Past Your Eyes (I'm not cut out to suffer fools like this.)
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To: eyedigress

This has been the stupidest time in my life. If this jack-ass gets back in office after November, I will be very disappointed in my Country.


If he gets re-elected, millions will be disgusted beyond words and we will see frustrations and deep anger expressed in many ways. People who love their country don’t go lightly into the night when it is being destroyed before their eyes.


40 posted on 02/11/2012 8:23:04 PM PST by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: Nachum
This man will screw over anyone who honorably served this country for his precious loyal welfare class voters...A pox on any republican who doesn't stop this SOB.


41 posted on 02/11/2012 8:23:28 PM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: Nachum

Don’t let this happen.

I served with many Australian sailors who were treated this way after Vietnam - all the sailors on the troopship HMAS Sydney and her escorts were told they hadn’t served in Vietnam despite repeated trips there and sitting in Vung Tau harbour for days at a time within range of enemy mortar fire. It was a disgusting act by a cowardly government who just wanted to save money on pensions.

It took until the mid 1990s to fix it.

If you deploy into a situation where you can reasonably expect to be attacked, you deserve to be recognised as having served in a combat situation.


42 posted on 02/11/2012 8:24:36 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: Nachum

John Kerry can give some pointers on how to make a splinter look like a gunshot...


43 posted on 02/11/2012 8:26:28 PM PST by Rudder (The Main Stream Media is Our Enemy---get used to it.)
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To: Repeal The 17th

Amen and thank you. He’s at Spin Boldak. Kandahar Province.


44 posted on 02/11/2012 8:26:28 PM PST by Past Your Eyes (I'm not cut out to suffer fools like this.)
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To: Nachum
This is no surprise to me. Everything Obama does is for the vote, and he knows he doesn't have the military vote, so why spend money on them. He will now spend that money on his constituency: a loose coalition of Godless Communists, criminals, perverts, Hate America First Liberals, race baiters, welfare parasites, abortionist baby killers, pseudo intellectuals, environmentalist “Global Warming” insisters, and other unproductive elements of American Society.
45 posted on 02/11/2012 8:29:22 PM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: SuziQ
So I guess Obama doesn’t consider getting blown up by an IED actual combat?

you are so very naive...if the IED doesn't go off....what's the threat. What if the IED you pass is a dud....why should we pay you combat pay when we have illegal immigrants who need food stamps.....where's your heart????

46 posted on 02/11/2012 8:29:41 PM PST by terycarl (lurking, but well informed)
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To: Past Your Eyes
If he told me what he was doing over there he’d probably have to kill me so I don’t ax.

I can't talk about my missions either, but people like Tom Clancy and Bill Gertz will write about what he is doing about six months from now.


47 posted on 02/11/2012 8:30:08 PM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: ConorMacNessa

We know what this is about and it ain’t about saving money.

God bless and help those serving.


48 posted on 02/11/2012 8:30:22 PM PST by logitech
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To: Nachum

URBAN LEGEND ALERT!

http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/combatpay.asp

Calm down, everyone. Combat pay HAS changed. But not like this says. Originally, if you spent only 1 day in theater, you got combat pay for an entire month. They have changed to the member receiving a certain amount per day ($7.50), which will add up to exactly the combat pay amount you usually receive for the month ($225) if you are there the entire time. If you are only there for two days, then you only get 16 bucks. Our unit received this briefing, I’m just sourcing Snopes because its easier.

Truth be known, I like this change. There’s nothing more frustrating than when a ground pounder spends an entire month downrange and gets the same sum as guy who shows up for two or three days as a maintenance guy on a rotator. In fact, I’ve known people who intentionally delayed their return stateside to the 2nd of the month, to get an entire month of combat pay.

Although I agree with the overarching argument that the military is getting the raw end, this isn’t one of them. It pays people based on how long they are in theater.


49 posted on 02/11/2012 8:31:23 PM PST by The Black Knight (What would John Rambo do?)
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To: terycarl

*snort*


50 posted on 02/11/2012 8:32:08 PM PST by SuziQ
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