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Gingrich: If it comes to a shutdown, the GOP should stick to its principles
The Washington Post ^ | 2/25/2011 | Newt Gingrich

Posted on 02/11/2012 10:50:08 PM PST by JediJones

The Washington establishment believes that the government shutdown of 1995 was a disastrous mistake that accomplished little and cost House Republicans politically.

The facts are exactly the opposite.

While the shutdown produced some short-term pain, it set the stage for a budget deal in 1996 that led to the largest drop in federal discretionary spending since 1969. The discipline imposed by this budget — overall spending grew at an average of 2.9 percent a year while I was speaker of the House, the slowest rate in decades — allowed us to reach a balanced-budget deal in 1997.

...the balanced budget was an outcome driven by House Republicans with limited support from skeptical Senate Republicans [Me: RINOs.].

House Republicans passed a constitutional amendment requiring a balanced budget. Seventy-two Democrats joined us, giving us the required two-thirdsmajority to amend the Constitution. Unfortunately, the Senate failed to reach this threshold by one vote.

Our constitutional amendment would have set a seven-year deadline to balance the budget. We adopted the same timetable and created a plan that would end deficit spending by 2002.

It was President Bill Clinton’s veto of our budget in December 1995 that closed the government. The White House knew that it could use the power of the presidency and the support of liberal media to blame us.

We could cave in and be accepted by the Washington establishment, or we could stand firm for a balanced budget for the American people.

We decided to stick to our principles through a very contentious and difficult period.

Nonetheless, the ultimate result was the first four consecutive balanced budgets since the 1920s...

Becoming one more promise-breaking, Washington-dominated, sellout group is a much worse fate — politically and ethically — than having the government close for a few days.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: billclinton; climatechange; congress; debunked; gingrich; globalwarming; governmentshutdown; newt; newtgingrich; pelosi; shutdown
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1 posted on 02/11/2012 10:50:14 PM PST by JediJones
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To: JediJones
The left wing Washington Post, and anything from it should be ignored. Anything from it's pages is anti-conservative.
2 posted on 02/11/2012 11:06:23 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Look closer, this was written by Newt Gingrich.


3 posted on 02/11/2012 11:32:26 PM PST by JediJones (Newt-er Romney in 2012!)
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To: JediJones
Look even closer, it's in the Washington Post. I think this says a lot about Gingrich. I guess the article in Politico that said Gingrich was buddy buddy with the MSM is true. This article really says a lot about Gingrich and where his sympathies lie.
4 posted on 02/11/2012 11:36:21 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: JediJones

Newt would have kept the gov’t shut down! It was quisling Dole that genuflected— I can still vividly see him standing at his desk in the Senate, cutting the rug form under the House conservative insurgents and Newt.

Regrettably, that capitulation by Dole- was what began the down slide in Newt’s revolution— one now he will hopefully revive in 2013.


5 posted on 02/11/2012 11:37:12 PM PST by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, than to consent to wrong.)
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To: JediJones

“This would all have been impossible had Republicans not stood firm in 1995 and shown the American people (and the White House) that we were serious about reducing spending.”

That works for me. Thanks for sharing.


6 posted on 02/11/2012 11:40:13 PM PST by Christie at the beach
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To: nickcarraway

If that’s the point you were trying to make, then I have to give you the award for the dumbest post I’ve seen on FR in the last week. The idea that the content of this article, which contains nothing liberal, is deemed by you as being liberal simply because it was published in the Washington Post is beyond stupid. Not to mention, they publish Charles Krauthammer’s columns, many of which I can assure you express conservative opinions.


7 posted on 02/11/2012 11:44:39 PM PST by JediJones (Newt-er Romney in 2012!)
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To: JediJones
Wow, how in the world does Gingrich get a dispensation for every single thing he does? If any other presidential candidate printed something in the WP, he/she would be slammed for it. (BTW, I see Krauthammer slammed around here as a RINO all the time)

Gingrich conveniently leaves the fact that back in the mid-90s he was trying to get his caucus to back down on their conservative principles. And Gingrich, IN HIS OWN WORDS, said "he melted around Clinton."

The Washington Post would not be giving aid and comfort to a presidential nominee at this time. They want one of their guys - Romney or Gingrich- to be the nominee. They will own support one of the megaRINOs.

8 posted on 02/11/2012 11:55:36 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Your post says a lot about you, loser. Seems you are more attracted to liars than patriots.


9 posted on 02/11/2012 11:59:15 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: nickcarraway

Check the date on the article, this is from last year. I noticed it had never been posted on FR so I posted it since the history on the government shutdown is worth talking about. It shows Newt has always been willing to fight the establishment.

Sorry, but a random out-of-context quote here and there cannot rewrite the history that Newt presided over the most conservative House any of us have seen in modern times. Sorry if every GOP member wasn’t happy with it, but as Ron Paul shows us, it’s very easy to be a Congressman in a safe district to push for right-wing perfection, but harder to negotiate such a deal with a liberal President. The Republicans in the 2000s had a Republican president, and still didn’t accomplish as many conservative achievements as Newt did under Clinton.


10 posted on 02/12/2012 12:01:55 AM PST by JediJones (Newt-er Romney in 2012!)
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To: presently no screen name

Who is a liar? You actually believe adultery is patriotism?


11 posted on 02/12/2012 12:03:01 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: VinL

And that was driven by the moderate mentality that it was bad for Dole’s presidential election.


12 posted on 02/12/2012 12:03:59 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: nickcarraway

>> Look even closer, it’s in the Washington Post. I think this says a lot about Gingrich.

LOL... shoot the messenger...


13 posted on 02/12/2012 12:04:16 AM PST by Gene Eric (Newt/Sarah 2012)
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To: nickcarraway

>> You actually believe adultery is patriotism?

C’mon, have you ever seen his ex?


14 posted on 02/12/2012 12:05:58 AM PST by Gene Eric (Newt/Sarah 2012)
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To: JediJones; presently no screen name

I am old enough to remember 1998 and 1999. I was on Free Republic back then. It was critical we get Bill Clinton out of office. Newt Gingrich saved his presidency. The second he was caught having his affair Clinton was saved. And Gingrich knew that. He is a traitor.


15 posted on 02/12/2012 12:08:11 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: JediJones
"..they publish Charles Krauthammer’s columns, many of which I can assure you express conservative opinions."

I just realized that no one can do a FUBO like acronym with Charles Krautmammer's name without getting the language police down on you.

16 posted on 02/12/2012 12:11:31 AM PST by lwoodham (Time is what keeps everything from happening all at once.)
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To: nickcarraway

Nope, Chester Lott and Santorum saved his presidency and I don’t recall you being here in ‘99. You’re very fortunate Jim has given you a pass when it comes to slandering Newt Gingrich because you’re one of the worst vile offenders.


17 posted on 02/12/2012 12:13:28 AM PST by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: nickcarraway
January 24, 2011 interview, Sen. Santorum said the United States is in need of more foreign workers. “I do think we need more people coming to this nation who want to be Americans to grow this economy. You want to fix the Social Security problem? Let’s have more workers producing and helping out the situation. For me, I’m willing to allow increased immigration to this country...”

So we can all agree with Santorum on this, that MORE immigrants, (’open the spigot’- in his words) is what is needed to fix our problems, including our low birthrates correct? This is what he said. And that they ‘learn English’- (his words again) and just a guess I but I think I know where these ‘new’ immigrants will be comming from don't you?. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=sUSUGIfggTI

18 posted on 02/12/2012 12:15:17 AM PST by anglian
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To: JediJones

Thanks very much for this posterity posting!

GO NEWT!!


19 posted on 02/12/2012 12:16:12 AM PST by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: nickcarraway
Santorum kills Impeachment proceeding against Bill Clinton
20 posted on 02/12/2012 12:20:10 AM PST by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: VinL; CharlesWayneCT

“Newt would have kept the gov’t shut down! It was quisling Dole that genuflected— I can still vividly see him standing at his desk in the Senate, cutting the rug form under the House conservative insurgents and Newt.”

And, the shut down was seen as hurting Dole’s chance to be elected...................as if.

You are both right!

I believe the ‘rats were one day away from caving before Dole pulled the rug out.


21 posted on 02/12/2012 12:20:38 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (This hobbit is looking for her pitchfork...God help the GOP if I find it.)
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To: JediJones; presently no screen name
Gingrich was a Rockefeller Republican from the beginning. In 1976, when Reagan was fighting for conservatism, Gingrich was running to the left of his Congressional opponent.

For everybody else, the 1994 election was about the American people and the Constitution. Why for Gingrich and his supporters, it's all about Gingrich and slamming everyone else. If nothing else, this throwing Reagan, the Constitution, the American people, all the other Senators and Reps under the bus is a real turnoff. If Gingrich was a real conservative, he wouldn't need to put himself above everyone and everything. If only Gingrich would praise Reagan or the Constitution as much as he does Nancy Pelosi.

(Why don't you read the post Gingrich put on his web site after endorsing Scozzafava, where he declares jihad on conservatives/ Oh, yeah, he took it down to fool conservatives)

22 posted on 02/12/2012 12:21:44 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

“Newt Gingrich saved his presidency.”

Bob Dole saved Clinton’s presidency.


23 posted on 02/12/2012 12:23:04 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (This hobbit is looking for her pitchfork...God help the GOP if I find it.)
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To: nickcarraway

PS. Rick Santorum has backtracked from his 2008 endorsement of Mitt Romney by saying he was for “anyone but McCain.” In this 2008 interview with Laura Ingraham Santorum praised Romney at great length — contradicting some of what he says today. In the interview, Santorum calls Romney a “true conservative” and says he “is someone we can trust.” http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/seven-minutes-of-rick-santorum-talking-about-how-g


24 posted on 02/12/2012 12:23:35 AM PST by anglian
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To: onyx; nickcarraway

To be fair, I was here in ‘98 and ‘99, too...just not registered.

Man oh man, what a free for all it was back then! You guys scared me to death! lol


25 posted on 02/12/2012 12:26:13 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (This hobbit is looking for her pitchfork...God help the GOP if I find it.)
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To: dixiechick2000

And Dole now supports? RS


26 posted on 02/12/2012 12:26:28 AM PST by anglian
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To: dixiechick2000

I was here in ‘98 using WebTV....LOL.


27 posted on 02/12/2012 12:28:47 AM PST by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: nickcarraway

“The second he was caught having his affair Clinton was saved.”

How can that be? Newt didn’t resign until ‘99.

Clinton was reelected in ‘96.


28 posted on 02/12/2012 12:28:51 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (This hobbit is looking for her pitchfork...God help the GOP if I find it.)
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To: onyx

You better check the threads, because I have held my tongue for about a month. But now there’s a conservative that can beat Romney, not just Romney Jr.


29 posted on 02/12/2012 12:29:01 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: anglian

Dole endorsed Mittens.


30 posted on 02/12/2012 12:29:37 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (This hobbit is looking for her pitchfork...God help the GOP if I find it.)
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To: onyx

WebTV?

God love you for being so smart. I never could figure that thing out. lol


31 posted on 02/12/2012 12:30:21 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (This hobbit is looking for her pitchfork...God help the GOP if I find it.)
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To: anglian

Here’s the link.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/12/18/us-usa-campaign-romney-dole-idUSTRE7BH0HH20111218


32 posted on 02/12/2012 12:32:23 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (This hobbit is looking for her pitchfork...God help the GOP if I find it.)
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To: nickcarraway

You really aren’t going to convince anyone. Nancy Reagan was the most protective of President Reagan, and in ‘95 she handed the mantle or torch that belonged to Reagan to Newt Gingrich that was handed to him by Barry Goldwater!


33 posted on 02/12/2012 12:32:59 AM PST by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: lwoodham

Now THAT’s funny.


34 posted on 02/12/2012 12:36:54 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: dixiechick2000

Oh, I didn’t post after I got told off after my second post, when I neglected to close the bold font, so when I got a computer I signed up under this screen name instead of the variation of my own name. I was a mess trying to learn on WebTV!


35 posted on 02/12/2012 12:38:45 AM PST by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: onyx
Did you take the time to read that article? It was riddled with errors. For example, it claims Santorum was elected in '96 or '98, when he was elected in '94. If they can't even get that right. Also, Bill Clinton WAS impeached. If he was impeached, how could Santorum have killed it? Whoever wrote this is incompetent, and doesn't know what he's talking about.

More importantly, the timeline is off from what you claim. Once Ginrich's affair was out, the public was never going to tolerate Clinton being removed from office. So in December of '98 and January 1999, the damage was done. You can't blame Santorum for the situation Gingrich put all of them in. He was the traitor.

36 posted on 02/12/2012 12:39:33 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Lancey Howard; lwoodham

Ha! Now that you mention it.......;o)

Very clever, lwoodham!


37 posted on 02/12/2012 12:40:00 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (This hobbit is looking for her pitchfork...God help the GOP if I find it.)
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To: dixiechick2000

I was talking about his impeachment/removal from office.


38 posted on 02/12/2012 12:40:34 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: onyx

I’m impressed that you tried!

I remember one of my first posts, and someone didn’t close their tags. I had no clue as to what that was. I thought I broke FR!

It was a while before I figured that one out. lol


39 posted on 02/12/2012 12:42:37 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (This hobbit is looking for her pitchfork...God help the GOP if I find it.)
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To: onyx

First of all, we all know Nancy was never as conservative as Reagan, and supported many things he didn’t. She endorsed McCain in ‘08, and would endorse Romney this year, if he’s the nominee. Second, is Nancy now claiming she doesn’t support Gingrich, etc.


40 posted on 02/12/2012 12:42:41 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway; onyx

>> If only Gingrich would praise Reagan or the Constitution as much as he does Nancy Pelosi.

I was giving your post an honest read up until the Pelosi silliness.

So I can only assume you prefer Santorum, who is a big govt nanny-statist, yes, no?

Seriously, there’s no one else contending that can drive the Country out of the ditch. There’s no way in Hell Santorum can deal with this. His aptitude is less than half of what’s required.


41 posted on 02/12/2012 12:43:33 AM PST by Gene Eric (Newt/Sarah 2012)
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To: nickcarraway

Oh! I see what you mean. thank you for the clarification.

I think you can lay Clinton’s non-removal from office squarely at the Senate’s feet. They didn’t want to go up against an incumbent President Gore.


42 posted on 02/12/2012 12:45:42 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (This hobbit is looking for her pitchfork...God help the GOP if I find it.)
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43 posted on 02/12/2012 12:48:47 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

All I know about Dole is that he’s reported to have stamina.


44 posted on 02/12/2012 12:49:43 AM PST by Gene Eric (Newt/Sarah 2012)
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All I know about Dole is that he’s reported to have stamina.

And so does his dog. I think I remember his dog doing Britny Spears in a TV commercial.

45 posted on 02/12/2012 1:01:18 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

Ouch...


46 posted on 02/12/2012 1:03:05 AM PST by Gene Eric (Newt/Sarah 2012)
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To: nickcarraway
Sorry, I had to do a few things. I read the linked article at the time it was posted. IIRC, a lot is from Rogan’s Diaries. Yes, you're right, I'm also aware of the dates Santorum’s elections to both the U.S. House and U.S Senate.

Clinton has the press on his side. He was a rock star and Ken Starr was a nosy troll.

47 posted on 02/12/2012 1:14:21 AM PST by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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I didn’t even want Santorum to run, but at least he’s a conservative, unlike the other three.


48 posted on 02/12/2012 1:15:41 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

My point was and is, that Nancy Reagan wouldn’t have participated had she thought Newt Gingrich was a backstabber to HER Ronnie and that was Romney’s intent in his attack ads and also the theme of the establishment and news media running against Newt Gingrich.


49 posted on 02/12/2012 1:17:22 AM PST by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: nickcarraway
I believe adultery is a sin. I believe Newt is a sinner, some would say a bigtime sinner. I also believe he has confessed his sins to God, made restitution in his family, and carried out reconciliation, made no excuses for his wrongdoings, and is a changed man, and a practicing Catholic. In other words, he is a sinner being saved by grace, like a great many of us. He is forgiven. He is a new man in Christ Jesus, and yet, people like you, refuse to let him take one step out of his past, into the new life and personhood promised him by Christ. Why exactly is that?

Newt jesus forgiveness

Newt bootsDuring a recent debate, an ABC News commentator passed a bag of stones to Republicans on stage (in the form of questions about marital infidelity and personal character). Every candidate, except for one,  grabbed a handful of rocks, to throw at the man they considered the sinner amongst them.  In a scene right out of, well, the Bible, Republican candidates - again and again - pelted the sinner, a great sinner, to be sure, with stones; all the while, reassuring the audience: they, the upstanding candidates, were nothing like the sinner.  Each of them, they made it clear, were more fit to the hold the office. Their sins were small, not the large sort the sinner was guilty of;  humans of quality, they.

In another scene, right out of, well, the Bible, Jesus once spoke to those with great confidence in their own goodness: "Two men went to the Temple to pray. One was a Pharisee, and the other was a dishonest tax collector. The proud Pharisee stood by himself and prayed this prayer: `I thank you, God, that I am not a sinner like everyone else, especially like that tax collector over there! For I never cheat, I don't sin, I don't commit adultery, I fast twice a week, and I give you a tenth of my income.'

But the tax collector stood at a distance and dared not even lift his eyes to heaven as he prayed. Instead, he beat his chest in sorrow, saying, `O God, be merciful to me, for I am a sinner.' I tell you, this sinner, not the Pharisee, returned home justified before God."

This sinner.  Old as the Message is, it is so new and wonderful, if rightly presented, as to awaken astonishment in the weary, imperfect hearts who hear.  When babes in Christ give themselves to the Lord - justified through the Redeemer's sacrifice, brought into the family of God, begotten of the Holy Spirit - it means a great change for these. It means a Miracle.  Old things pass away; all things become new.

Only Now, just like Then – whited walls, the outside-of-the-cup crowd,  invested in the appearance of good conduct and their "core" principles,  make the Precious Savior, Bringer of Peace,  Lifter of Burdens, unapproachable, uninviting, intimidating, to sinners seeking forgiveness, desperate for a second chance.  The Rick Perrys, the Michelle Bachmanns, the Ron Pauls, the Rick Santorums and Mitt Romneys of today's world, their banners of spiritual pride waving high, keep multitudes of  sinners standing afar off, sure they are unworthy to approach the only One who can make them new.

On that stage, that night, there was not one word - not one word - from the political Christians about the miraculous saving work of Christ Jesus, sufficient to change, to make all things new, to transform the worst sinner, even Newt, into a new creature. 

America is full of sinners, who love their country, many of whom would die for it, and according to the purity test of  the republicans on stage that night, they probably couldn’t run for dog catcher.  Steve Deace sees things a little differently: sometimes the greatest sinners, "the most broken people are the ones God does the most tremendous work through." 

No one has walked a mile in Newt's shoes, except for Newt.  No one on that stage knows the crowded corners of Newt's heart.  There is only one thing every believer truly knows about Newt... he is forgiven. 

forgivenNewt lastword


50 posted on 02/12/2012 1:17:56 AM PST by true believer forever (Save the Irish Setters - Vote Newt!)
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