Skip to comments.Gingrich: If it comes to a shutdown, the GOP should stick to its principles
Posted on 02/11/2012 10:50:08 PM PST by JediJones
The Washington establishment believes that the government shutdown of 1995 was a disastrous mistake that accomplished little and cost House Republicans politically.
The facts are exactly the opposite.
While the shutdown produced some short-term pain, it set the stage for a budget deal in 1996 that led to the largest drop in federal discretionary spending since 1969. The discipline imposed by this budget overall spending grew at an average of 2.9 percent a year while I was speaker of the House, the slowest rate in decades allowed us to reach a balanced-budget deal in 1997.
...the balanced budget was an outcome driven by House Republicans with limited support from skeptical Senate Republicans [Me: RINOs.].
House Republicans passed a constitutional amendment requiring a balanced budget. Seventy-two Democrats joined us, giving us the required two-thirdsmajority to amend the Constitution. Unfortunately, the Senate failed to reach this threshold by one vote.
Our constitutional amendment would have set a seven-year deadline to balance the budget. We adopted the same timetable and created a plan that would end deficit spending by 2002.
It was President Bill Clintons veto of our budget in December 1995 that closed the government. The White House knew that it could use the power of the presidency and the support of liberal media to blame us.
We could cave in and be accepted by the Washington establishment, or we could stand firm for a balanced budget for the American people.
We decided to stick to our principles through a very contentious and difficult period.
Nonetheless, the ultimate result was the first four consecutive balanced budgets since the 1920s...
Becoming one more promise-breaking, Washington-dominated, sellout group is a much worse fate politically and ethically than having the government close for a few days.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
Thomas Purcell: "South Carolina turned out to be quite a shock for the Republican Party as Newt Gingrich sailed to an easy victory over Mitt Romney. Gingrich, an historian, knows full well the significance of this victory: no Republican has ever won the nomination without the South Carolina primary under their belt.
However, even more shocked and disturbed was the third estate and ABC News.
The media was sure that the airing of Gingrichs former wife complaining about his desire of an open marriage would destroy Newt at the SC primary. In fact, not only did Newt win, one of his widest margins was in the 18-44 womens vote, much to the chagrin of ABC.
During this election, the media has consistently played the family and wife card on Republican candidates in order to besmirch and monkey with the election process of the Republican primaries (on a side note, a good argument could be made against ABC for an election tampering case). The played the religion and faux pas mistakes cards on Bachmann, Pawlenty and Perry and went after Cain the most vociferously with unsubstantiated claims of infidelity and basically boorish character flaws.
Unfortunately, up until Gingrich they all fell into the trap of denials and explanations. By doing so, previous candidates validated the medias claims whether they were true or not, or made the candidates look bad. They put people on the defense and thus gave credibility to the stories, and power to the attacks.
Instead, Newt responded not as a politician would, with denials and explanations, but as an ordinary American wouldhe called the media out on their ruthless and despicable acts of yellow journalism. Instead of saying Yes, that was a mistake in my life, and Im sorry, he simply said Yah I did it, so what? You are a jerk for bringing that up now.
By responding in this way, he struck not only a major blow against the networks, but against political correctness itself and struck a chord with almost every American who detested the rampant spread of silly and worthless adjustments to popular culture that do nothing but weaken a society. He made neither apologies nor disavowals, he simply defined himself as who is today and burned the media at the stake for their accusations.
Political correctness is the elephant in the room, the subjects we dare not brooch. We have made free speech and acts of normal human nature taboo. We have avoided subjects and hidden our flaws in order to be more accepted in society"
Well said, true.
Made my day!
I remember the day the news of that story broke. No one even had to tell me it was Brian Ross. And I remember being sick to my stomach for days... and look how it turned out... oh, my, Heaven was bombarded by Newt’s supporters through those days leading up to the vote...
Rick is the one fooling conservatives. You will see where a vote for him eventually goes.
Since you are swayed by his rhetoric and ignore his record - get educated.
Voted against increasing the number of immigration investigators
Voted to allow illegal immigrants to receive the earned income credit before becoming citizens
Voted to give SSI benefits to legal aliens.
Voted to give welfare benefits to naturalized citizens without regard to to the earnings of their sponsors.
Voted against hiring an additional 1,000 border partrol agents, paid for by reductions in state grants.
Voted against a flat tax.
Voted to increase tobacco taxes to pay for Medicare prescription drugs
Voted to increase tobacco taxes to fund health insurance subsidies for small businesses.
Voted to increase tobacco taxes to pay for an $8 billion increase in child healh insurance.
Voted to increase tobacco taxes to pay for an increase in NIH funding.
Voted twice for internet taxes.
Voted to allow gas tax revenues to be used to subsidize Amtrak.
Voted to strike marriage penalty tax relief and instead provide fines on tobacco companies.
Voted against repealing the Clinton 4.3 cent gas tax increase.
Voted to increase taxes by $2.3 billion to pay for an Amtrak trust fund.
Voted to allow welfare to a minor who had a child out of wedlock and who resided with an adult who was on welfare within the previous two years.
Voted to increase taxes by $9.4 billion to pay for a $9.4 billion increase in student loans.
Voted to say that AMT patch is more important than capital gains and dividend relief.
Voted against food stamp reform
Voted against Medicaid reform
Voted against TANF reform
Voted to increase the Social Services Block Grant from $1 billion to $2 billion
Voted to increase the FHA loan from $170,000 to $197,000. Also opposed increasing GNMA guaranty from 6 basis points to 12.
Voted for $2 billion for low income heating assistance.
And I read somewhere, though I have no idea of the accuracy of it, that Huckabee was still in the race when he endorsed Willard... if that really was the case, it adds a new layer of hypocrisy...
Did you read my posts? I didn’t criticize him for his sin, I criticized him for being a leftist. But, since you brought it, nothing in the Bible says I can’t use my reason to determine who would be a good leader. So, if I determine a person’s character is not a good risk to be president, I am not judging his soul, just his potential as a good leader. You are really perverting the Bible if you say that is inappropriate.
Okay, so do you say the same thing about Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, and Mitt Romney? How can you judge them, if it is so wrong for a Christian to judge?
WOW! Thank you very much for posting Thomas Purcell’s column!
You’re a treasure, dear Marguerite!
Thanks very much! I was going to look for that!
I thought it was wrong for a Christian to judge? You have judged Gingrich's soul and absolved him of sin. Please tell me how God gave you the power of judgement of Gingrich's soul and revelation of this to other human's. Please tell me where in Scripture it says you have the ability to judge his soul? I( know of no Scripture to back up your claims. You must have some kind of extra-Scriptural revelation from God?
Plus, how come Gingrich is not to be judged, but you can condemn me? Don't the same rules apply to me as him? (Even though I didn't say what you claimed I said)
I never even wanted Santorum to run. I was displeased with him for a lot of reason. But at this point, he’s better than the megaRINOs. But, by all means, buy into the Romney/MSM spin machine.
There was a political conversation going on, you brought up the world adultery... having nothing to do with the discussion...
You mentioned it to demean Newt... you don’t know his heart, you don’t know his soul... you know the sins he committed in the past... and based on those past sins, you deem him unfit...
Which principles are they using today?
I have just now had the time to listen to *that*!
It begs the question, why is Santorum running aginst Rommey now? What’s changed?
No, I accept his testimony as a fellow believer in Christ. He says he has confessed his sins, he regrets them, he has repented. I believe what he says.. I don’t judge him, good or bad. And there is no behavioral sin in his life to cause me to doubt his words.. I believe what he, as a believer, says about his walk with Christ.
What I said about people like you, who brings up newt’s sins and his past, over and over, is that you refuse to let him take one step out of his past, into the new future and life that God has promised him. That is objectively apparent, Newt will never be anything but an adulterer to you... After 20 years... you won’t let him step into the new life that God has promised him... why even mention the word adultery? Why?
I brought it up because he was having adultery when he knew the revelation would help Clinton. Can you understand that?
Wow, I never claimed I knew his heart or his sins. Go back and look, I never said anything about that. But YOU did claim you knew his heart and his soul. Go back and read your thread. The attacks you are directing at me, you mean to direct at yourself. You are the one doing things contradicting Christianity. Sheesh.
Bearing false witness is a sin and against the commandments. Mitt and Rick are sinners.
Psalm 101:5 “Whoever slanders his neighbor in secret, him will I put to silence; whoever has haughty eyes and a proud heart, him will I not endure.”
Mark 8:36 “And what do you benefit if you gain the whole world but lose your own soul?”
Rick is a big time sinner - he better start zipping the lip and ask Newt for forgiveness and the voters he has deceived.
The 10 commandments was written on 2 stone tablets and easy enough for even a democrat to understand, but they break all 10 anyway...
I think you have introduced a true talent into many lives tonight... thank you...there is something about the way he writes that is just different, calm and reasonable... I love him...
>> He is a new man in Christ
He was never without Christ.
Pay no attention to the sanctimony stating otherwise.
You want your damn liberty back, vote Newt.
Forget the delusional moral elites. Their hearts are tainted with contempt.
Mitt, Rick, and nickcarraway are sinners, and Newt Gingrich is a pure angel. I don’t care for Romney or Santorum that much, but I don’t make any claims about their soul. But I think it’s hilarious that God tells you that Gingrich is His messenger and beyond reproach, and everyone else is a sinner. I don’t think anyone needed to bring immortal souls into this debate. But I guess since you to were bestowed special powers by God to know who his good and evil, the rest of us bad Christians will slink away, trembling before the mighty gifts God gave thee.
That is pretty much how I see it too.
The thanks is owed to Marguerite!
I wish you all a Blessed and Happy Lord’s Day. It’s already Sunday!
Futile. God Bless You, God keep you with His peace and love...
Sorry, God never gave me special powers. I beg your forgiveness.
Sorry, Marguerite - Thanks to you!
Have a Blessed Day Everyone!
Mitt, Rick, and nickcarraway are sinners, and Newt Gingrich is a pure angel. I dont care for Romney or Santorum that much, but I dont make any claims about their soul. But I think its hilarious that God tells you that Gingrich is His messenger and beyond reproach, and everyone else is a sinner. I dont think anyone needed to bring immortal souls into this debate. But I guess since you to were bestowed special powers by God to know who his good and evil, the rest of us bad Christians will slink away, trembling before the mighty gifts God gave thee.
I don’t think Gingrich or anyone else believes he walks on water, as you stated in another post, I don’t think anybody has claimed Gingrich is Gods messenger.
If you re-read True Believers post, without anger or defensiveness, you may find a beautiful message in it. It wasn’t posted as an attack at you, True has posted that post before. The first time I read it, I had to leave my computer, step outside for a ciggy and I cried like a baby. The message touched me. It is a hopeful one.
Anyhow, below is a quote Newt made, you will see he claims to be nothing but flawed mortal, one that perhaps has some skills to help us and our country. I don’t think you can fault a man for bringing his tool kit and experience to the table. Hopefully we will hire the most experienced man for the job and the one with the best tools available.
I only exist because the country is in trouble, Gingrich said. The question is whether I can in fact help the country work its way out of trouble. If we had 4 percent unemployment and no foreign threat, I couldnt be a candidate. It would be absurd. There are 20 guys you could pick in peaceful, calm and pleasant times who would be adequate as president, none of whom have my liabilities.
Please tell me that your reference to traitor in that last sentence is to Clinton.
You completely misunderstood. I never said Gingrich was God’s messenger. True Believer is.
Wow, how Obamaesque of him to say. They both think they are messiahs of destiny. That's for posting this quote.
Well, last Sat I believe it was, True Believer was God’s messenger—for me at least. :)
Seriously though, read the post again without thinking it is aimed at you and don’t worry about candidates. Good stuff.
JediJones: “The Republicans in the 2000s had a Republican president, and still didnt accomplish as many conservative achievements as Newt did under Clinton.”
That bears repeating. Newt Gingrich accomplished more with a Democrat president than the Republicans accomplished when they held both Congress and the presidency. There is no question that Newt Gingrich pulled Clinton to the right. How can so many people forget the defeat of Hillarycare and the budget battles? Newt Gingrich fought for conservative principles and achieved some, and that’s more than can be said for most Republicans.
Wife no 2 has an FBI file that says she is “mentally unstable”. Seems she tried to sell influence to some Russian among other things. The plea bargain and Newt's paying for her “help” kept her out of prison.
It was during the six year separation from her that Newt met wife no 3. They became friends, then best friends.
She is loving, supportive, and helps bring some of his dreams to fruition. Plus she is adored by his daughters. Would every American be blessed with a spouse that fits her attributes. She is also the person who helped him find his spiritual side.
The Church annulled his first two marriages. He is given communion and receives God's Grace. Guess you're not a Christian.
I lurked a long time on the school’s computer. Wasn’t allowed to log in and comment.
Nice job on arguing ideas and facts.
Oh, wait, you didn’t. All you did was use specious guilt by association.
I was here too....signed up in Feb of 1998.
We kept the comments smokin' back then.
I am fairly certain that is the case. It is not something I hold against Santorum, however. While I am far from a Mitt or Santorum fan, Mitt would have been much preferable to McCain or the Huckster at that point in time.
Is that your biggest issue? Can a person not be patriotic because they committed adultry? They can be saved despite it and worse.
There seems to be some sour grapes and it it shows a new side - in the past you sounded much more rational.
You may want to pay attention to what Christ said about the lost sheep that had gone astray and came back. How the prodigal son was treated and how Paul was brought to faith in Christ and repented like Gingrich did. Do you also dismiss what Paul wrote because he persecuted Christians?
Actual quote from Nancy Reagan, in context: Just take a look at the extraordinary men and women who make up the 104th Congress, and, of course, this distinguished Speaker Newt Gingrich [gestures to Gingrich]. The dramatic movement of 1995 is an outgrowth of a much earlier crusade that goes back half a century. Barry Goldwater handed the torch to Ronnie. And in turn, Ronnie turned that torch over to Newt and the Republican members of Congress to keep that dream alive. I know that Ronnie believes it will succeed, and that the American people support their efforts. Note the key phrases: "and the Republican members", "it will succeed", and "their efforts" -- all referencing the congress, not an individual person.
It is statements like this which give fuel to those who see Gingrich as somewhat self-aggrandizing. Claiming a personal endorsement, as the rightful heir to Ronald Reagan, based on a partial quote taken out of context, is a pretty "bold" action.
The PROUD GOP establishment ran Newt out of government. And we do have the history of their accomplishments since. Given the literal history, Newt is NOT taking out of context the remarks made by Nancy. The PROUD GOP enlarged their ‘big tent’ planting the PROUD as their tent pegs and today they are little more than a TARP. And these that promote and protect the politics of sodomy have no shame.
By repeatedly making deep personal cuts and assassinating Speaker Gingrich from behind your keyboard unchallenged, you think you are so clever in the belief that you are getting away with it. But in the end, we all lose, because you are contributing to destroying his chances of winning, even though it is ever so small.
In the event that Romney wins, you will be the one to complain the loudest, we can be sure. And in your ignorance, you will have not a thread of remorse for doing your part to make that happen, because you are incapable of understanding what it is you are actually doing.
Does that excuse you from what it is you are doing? Not at all, because you have been repeatedly opposed and warned about what you are doing.
I couldn’t have said it better but you do know some people just don’t get it.
They already have their opinion and so they can look at just about anything and justify it.
Probably because they need to, who knows.
Where did that come from, adultery has nothing to do with patriotism for or against.
I bet you would have refused to vote for Benjamin Franklin as well?
Well, Nick, I believe you've earned the Best Rewriting of History of the Day Award from the Mitt Romney Historical Society.
Newt's affair was not public knowledge until after he was reelected in 1998 and subsequently left Congress. If it had been, the media would have plastered it all over the place and he surely would have neither run for nor won reelection.
That news didn't come out until Newt was engaged in divorce proceedings with his wife the year after he left Congress and the year after Bill Clinton was impeached.
Marianne Gingrich told the Washington Post that she was informed of the affair and the request for a divorce last May...Marianne Gingrich told the Post she was "totally shocked" by the news, and her attorneys last week obtained court permission to interview Gingrich and Callista Bisek
So if Marianne Gingrich was "shocked" about it in May, 1999, 6 months after Newt left Congress and after Bill Clinton was impeached on December 19, 1998, please explain your timeline on how the affair had any effect on the impeachment debate?
I don't personally think that people who make up lies deserve to be members of this forum.