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Washington Postís Ignatius Hails Obamaís Nimble Contraception Policy; Will Zings Bishops:
NewsBusters ^ | 2/12/12 | Brent Baker

Posted on 02/12/2012 4:39:16 PM PST by Nachum

“I was struck looking at this,” Washington Post columnist and former foreign editor David Ignatius expressed on ABC’s This Week in admiring how Barack Obama on Friday adjusted the contraception mandate, hailing “the ability to do a do-over quickly” since the administration was not “done deaf” and “they did make changes and this is now a policy that you can defend.” Unaddressed, how it’s just an accounting gimmick and Catholic institutions would still be required to cover what they morally oppose, to say nothing of what gives the government the right to require private insurers to offer a service for “free.”

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bishops; contraception; ignaitius; obama
Full title: Washington Post’s Ignatius Hails Obama’s Nimble Contraception Policy; Will Zings Bishops: ‘It Serves Them Right’
1 posted on 02/12/2012 4:39:34 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum
Macht nichts. Nobody at the comPost worth saving in case of fire, and nobody cares about these jerkoffs except each other.
2 posted on 02/12/2012 4:44:02 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Nachum

The people who propound the ‘separation of church and state’ are the ones who hate the separation of state and church.


3 posted on 02/12/2012 4:44:29 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Nachum

“they did make changes and this is now a policy that you can defend.”

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Absolute LIE.

Nothing was changed except a few words. Oh wait....
....even the words didn’t change:

“Despite what President Obama said at his White House press conference, the actual regulations make permanent the “interim final regulations” issued August 3, 2011 — the ones that sparked the furor in the first place.

...The bottom line is this: “Accordingly, the amendment to the interim final rule with comment period amending 45 CFR 147.130(a)(1)(iv) which was published in the Federal Register at 76 FR 46621-46626 on August 3, 2011, is adopted as a final rule without change.” [Emphasis added.]

Translation: The Obama administration Friday afternoon put into federal law the very regulation that drew objections from almost 200 Catholic bishops, some 50 religiously affiliated colleges and universities, 65 North American bishops of Orthodox churches, numerous other Jewish, Evangelical and Lutheran leaders, and even some liberals — and without changing so much as a comma.”

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/290859/nothing-squid-ink-ed-haislmaier


4 posted on 02/12/2012 4:46:12 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Nachum
What is this guy on?

Many people disagree with him....LOL!

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5 posted on 02/12/2012 4:49:20 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: SumProVita

The only change was a few words.

Nothing changed

It’s the same Unconstitutional claptrap with a few different words.

This guy is either retarded or gets a kick out of fellating Obama.

Please excuse the word retarded, I know it is no longer politicaly correct, but it is apt.


6 posted on 02/12/2012 5:00:20 PM PST by Venturer
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To: hinckley buzzard

It is worth clarifying that Will “zings” the Bishops for their initial support of Obamacare. They should have expected this from this administration. I quite agree. Socialists are Marxists, that is their atheist nature.


7 posted on 02/12/2012 5:03:05 PM PST by JimSEA
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To: Nachum

Ignatius and Will went from being VERY IMPORTANT COLUMNISTS to being relatively unknown niche bloggers. They haven’t figured that out yet.


8 posted on 02/12/2012 5:09:19 PM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: GeronL
The people who propound the ‘separation of church and state’ are the ones who hate the separation of state and church.

In more direct fashion:

The people who propound the 'separation of church and state' are the ones who favor and promote 'subordination of church to state'.

Not to mention, subordination of the individual to the state...

9 posted on 02/12/2012 5:10:38 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: NativeNewYorker

How long before the Post gets sold for $1 like Newsweek?


10 posted on 02/12/2012 5:13:15 PM PST by Buddy Sorrell (It's Algebra, Uncle Fletcher.)
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To: Venturer

Trust me...I understand what you are saying and it doesn’t bother me at all.


11 posted on 02/12/2012 5:14:05 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Nachum

So this numbnut thinks I have to belong to a church or religious organization in order to have 1st Amendment religious protections? I don’t belong to one and I am not going to buy insurance that funds abortions or abortion-inducing “contraceptives.” Period! End of discussion.


12 posted on 02/12/2012 5:15:21 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Buddy Sorrell

That is the price of the rag nowadays

I think the DC Examiner is stil free though


13 posted on 02/12/2012 5:15:35 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Nachum

David Ignatius is a horse’s *ss. A smarmy, know-it-all, Commie-lovin’, abortion-lovin’, Muslim-lovin’ horse’’s *ss.


14 posted on 02/12/2012 5:15:59 PM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: JimSEA

Not all of them supported that initially. As for the rest, we will pray that they are learning the truth.


15 posted on 02/12/2012 5:16:10 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: TigersEye

bump


16 posted on 02/12/2012 5:16:35 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Nachum
Ubama couldn't even write a simple Law Review that was expected of him as President of the Harvard Law Review, and he thinks he is going to outwit an institution that has engendered the likes of Ignatius of Loyola, St. Thomas More, Thomas Aquinas, etc., etc., etc.

Good luck with that, Steve.

17 posted on 02/12/2012 5:17:04 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (FOREIGN AID: A transfer of money from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries)
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To: JimSEA

“It is worth clarifying that Will “zings” the Bishops for their initial support of Obamacare. They should have expected this from this administration. I quite agree. Socialists are Marxists, that is their atheist nature.”

yeah I don’t understand why they didn’t see it coming. Liberals hate religion.


18 posted on 02/12/2012 5:17:39 PM PST by ari-freedom
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I so agree. What a shame though....because he really needs to read St. Augustine’s CONFESSIONS.


19 posted on 02/12/2012 5:20:24 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Nachum

Ain’t no free lunch.


20 posted on 02/12/2012 5:20:50 PM PST by Bookwoman ("...and I am unanimous in this...")
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To: ari-freedom

Why? My guess is that they were truly deceived and never thought they’d ever see such a thing take place in this nation.

Let us pray that their wake-up call brings them FULLY awake.


21 posted on 02/12/2012 5:23:51 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Nachum
FUWP.

Compost are all disgusting communists.

22 posted on 02/12/2012 5:25:19 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Buddy Sorrell

“How long before the Post gets sold for $1 like Newsweek?”

Soon as they quadruple in value.


23 posted on 02/12/2012 5:26:11 PM PST by Eldon Tyrell (question,.)
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To: Nachum
The Catholic bishops, it serves them right. They're the ones who were really hot for ObamaCare

George Will is absolutely right. They wanted ObamaCare but not what was in it. Careful what you ask for.

24 posted on 02/12/2012 5:31:41 PM PST by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: submarinerswife

No, they were not all for it. Let us pray that they will gain wisdom from God in all of this.


25 posted on 02/12/2012 5:33:55 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Nachum
And then there is this:

E.J. Dionne Jr. fired back: “Barack Obama is a moderate progressive with the emphasis on moderate. Most socialists are insulted when Barack Obama is called a socialist.”

26 posted on 02/12/2012 5:34:30 PM PST by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: SumProVita
No, they were not all for it.

LOL I meant the other "they were all for it", meaning that the Catholic Bishops who were defending and supporting it all over TV and by writing about it wanted it all back then. BEFORE they knew what the truth was.

They are the ones who George Will (and I) were referring to

27 posted on 02/12/2012 5:40:47 PM PST by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: submarinerswife

OK, I understand.

Lots of *practicing* Catholics (unlike the CINO’S) are praying for the clergy and have been doing so for some time. The prayers are requesting that God grant them the light to SEE fully what is taking place....and that He grant them the wisdom, courage and the grace to make the necessary changes.

;-)


28 posted on 02/12/2012 5:48:06 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Venturer
This guy is either retarded or gets a kick out of fellating Obama.
maybe both; "Bathhouse" Barry...Is out playing golf, again.

29 posted on 02/12/2012 5:52:51 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (Kill the terrorists, Protect (all) the borders, ridicule all the (remaining) Liberals :^)
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To: Nachum

There is a certain percentage of the catholic church and clergy that are progressives and do not believe or follow the doctrine of the church. Best you can do is pray that God gives them what they deserve!


30 posted on 02/12/2012 5:57:03 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
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To: GeronL
Thank you. This is not about the Catholic Church or Christian churches in general. This is unequivocally about the 1st Amendment as it applies to everyone.

0bastard is deliberately focusing on the Churches as a subterfuge to obscure that fact. Firstly he knows he can tap into prejudices against Christianity, especially against the RCC, and secondly he knows the RCC is the biggest organization that will object to this so they become his Alinsky target to freeze and polarize.

Nothing in the 1st Amendment says I have to belong to a government-recognized religious organization in order to qualify for 1st Amendment protections. In fact what it does say is that I don't! But 0bastard is laying down the precedent here that there are government-created standards I must meet to be covered by it.

Once that is accomplished what else can they use to separate a citizen from a BoR's protection? What other actions will they force me to commit or refrain from once I have been deemed unqualified for a given BoR's protection? Will I have to belong to a government approved gun club to own and shoot a firearm? To publish my opinions on the internet? To stand with a group of protesters or sign a petition of grievances about the government?

31 posted on 02/12/2012 6:01:54 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: ari-freedom
The bishops let their desire to be wanted interfere with their understanding that they are the chief employees in their church and are on duty 24/7.

Nobody loves a bishop but his relatives when you get right down to it and they should have all been used to that feeling. Alas, the Obamistas, drawing on an ancient knowledge substantially older than The Church, played them like a fiddle. Sure, the bishops, in the end, didn't cave as a group, but plenty of them did as individuals.

With the assistance of the Souvrn' Baptists and other like-minded Christians and Jews it is entirely possible religious freedom may be saved from the Abyss in America.

There's no hope for the Democrats. They've given up entirely too much in the Bill of Rights to ever be trusted. It's no surprise to me that after abandoning the Second Amendment, the Fifth Amendment, the Tenth Amendment, and even broad sections of the Fourteenth Amendment, that the Democrats would also abandon the first clause in the First Amendment.

I fully expect that when they try abandoning "free press" the Editorial Board of the Washington Post, along with other major Leftwingtard publishing empires, will set fire to their own offices and throw sand in the bindery!

32 posted on 02/12/2012 6:06:00 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: submarinerswife
Dionne is running a coverup for the fact that Obama is not up to the intellectual challenge.

Speaking of which has anybody ever seen him shop for a week's worth of groceries?

33 posted on 02/12/2012 6:12:55 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Nachum
...former foreign editor David Ignatius expressed on ABC’s This Week in admiring how Barack Obama on Friday adjusted the contraception mandate, hailing “the ability to do a do-over quickly” since the administration was not “done deaf” and “they did make changes and this is now a policy that you can defend.”

I think Obama had this 'compromise' set up and ready to to, because he knew what the objections might be. Just shows how manipulative he is.

34 posted on 02/12/2012 6:39:14 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: Nachum
..."Third, the Catholic bishops, it serves them right. They’re the ones who were really hot for ObamaCare, with a few exceptions. But they were all in favor and this is what it looks like when the government decides it’s going to make your health care choices for you.",

Will is right about that. Too many of the Bishops are so enamored of 'Social Justice' that they believe health insurance is a right, and it should be provided by the government. They THOUGHT they'd gotten a conscience waiver from the Obama Administration, but they learned that the man lies like a rug, and they can't trust him. That they even trusted him to begin with is sad.

35 posted on 02/12/2012 6:45:39 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ

There was NO compromise.

“Despite what President Obama said at his White House press conference, the actual regulations make permanent the “interim final regulations” issued August 3, 2011 — the ones that sparked the furor in the first place.

...The bottom line is this: “Accordingly, the amendment to the interim final rule with comment period amending 45 CFR 147.130(a)(1)(iv) which was published in the Federal Register at 76 FR 46621-46626 on August 3, 2011, is adopted as a final rule without change.” [Emphasis added.]

Translation: The Obama administration Friday afternoon put into federal law the very regulation that drew objections from almost 200 Catholic bishops, some 50 religiously affiliated colleges and universities, 65 North American bishops of Orthodox churches, numerous other Jewish, Evangelical and Lutheran leaders, and even some liberals — and without changing so much as a comma.”

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/290859/nothing-squid-ink-ed-haislmaier


36 posted on 02/12/2012 6:48:23 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: TigersEye
0bastard is deliberately focusing on the Churches as a subterfuge to obscure that fact. Firstly he knows he can tap into prejudices against Christianity, especially against the RCC, and secondly he knows the RCC is the biggest organization that will object to this so they become his Alinsky target to freeze and polarize.

He's pushing the issue of contraceptives because he wants to make the Catholic Church look 'anti woman'. That's how he thinks he'll win this argument in today's media saturated culture.

37 posted on 02/12/2012 6:52:59 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ

That is his way of deflecting from the real issue which is his intention to destroy individual rights as defined by the DoI, Constitution and BoRs.


38 posted on 02/12/2012 7:15:49 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: muawiyah

I quite agree with you. This is the “new” freedom from religion (Christianity anyhow). The speech and press freedoms are faced with the legal sophistry of freedom from “harmful” and offensive speech. Here too, the ones making the determinations are the progressives.


39 posted on 02/12/2012 7:37:41 PM PST by JimSEA
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To: SuziQ; TigersEye
You may not have noticed it but if you rotate yourself back through the last 162 or so years to find the "Know Nothing Party" you discover yourself surrounded by exactly the same messages the Leftwingtards are tossing at the RCC today.

Back then the intent was anti-Catholic even including the bit about the RCs being anti-woman ~ same stuff about old men in dresses, etc.

There's really nothing new here.

What is most disturbing is that so many Bishops were groveling at the feet of the Leftwingtards on the "social justice" nonsense. Catholics might do the right thing by having the Pope fire those guys (however Pope's fire people ~ gotta' be some way).

40 posted on 02/12/2012 7:43:57 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
I forgot a lot of the first 150 years of that. ;^)

I just don't think 0bummer cares as much about the social agenda of the left as he does the Progressive agenda of seizing power and destroying the concept of individual liberty. The social agenda is just a tool to him and those in the inner circles of the Progressive movement just as it was to Lenin.

41 posted on 02/12/2012 8:59:44 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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