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Caucus-Win Coattails Propel Santorum into Effective Tie With Romney in California
Survey USA ^ | 2/13/12 | staff

Posted on 02/13/2012 10:14:35 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009

4 months to the California Primary, but fresh after caucus wins in Colorado and Minnesota and in Missouri's non-binding primary, Rick Santorum draws to within a whisker of nominal frontrunner Mitt Romney, 33% for Romney, 31% for Santorum, effectively even, according to a SurveyUSA poll conducted for KABC-TV Los Angeles, KPIX-TV San Francisco, KGTV-TV San Diego and KFSN-TV Fresno.

Santorum leads Romney among seniors, among evangelicals, among pro-life voters, among Tea Party members, among those who say they are "very conservative," and in the Central Valley region of California.

(Excerpt) Read more at surveyusa.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: 2012polls; ca2012; california; gonewt; korean; lostby30pointsinpa; notbreaking; poll; proillegals; prounion; saintearmarks; santorum; santorum4romney; survey; unionbucks4rick
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Santorum is even competitive in California

1 posted on 02/13/2012 10:14:45 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Life is good. This is getting really serious now. He just needs to get through the next debate on 22 February like he won the last two debates and he will seal the deal.


2 posted on 02/13/2012 10:24:57 AM PST by napscoordinator (A moral principled Christian with character is the frontrunner! Congrats Santorum!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

And in the Newtered camp there was much wailing and gnashing of teeth.


3 posted on 02/13/2012 10:26:36 AM PST by Craftmore
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To: TexasFreeper2009

I cannot remember that last time that voting in the California Republican primary meant anything. Usually, by the time the California primary rolls around the decision has already been made by New Hampshire and a couple of other states. I suspect that a lot of Democrats will vote for Romney in the California GOP primary and give 0bama the weakest opponent.


4 posted on 02/13/2012 10:30:30 AM PST by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

I thought I woke up. Obviously I am asleep and still dreaming.

Hey, this means I can see Santorum live finally! Senator, come to the great OC please!


5 posted on 02/13/2012 10:32:38 AM PST by Yaelle (.Go Santorum!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

If this keeps up, he’ll get my tea party vote from the heart of California’s conservative Central Valley!!

Newt or Santorum. Either one is fine by me!!

FUMR!! FUBO!!

We have a republic to save!!


6 posted on 02/13/2012 10:34:22 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is not just brewing, rebellion is here!!)
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To: forgotten man

I suspect that a lot of Democrats will vote for Romney in the California GOP primary and give 0bama the weakest opponent.


Yes, with our new open primary, if we need CA’s delegates to win, the dems will all vote to give us Romney.


7 posted on 02/13/2012 10:35:07 AM PST by Yaelle (.Go Santorum!)
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To: Jim Robinson

I hope there are enough red blooded conservatives to stop the Dems from crossing over and voting for Romney. I do not think it’s fair for them to vote Romney in june so they can vote Barack in nov. :(


8 posted on 02/13/2012 10:37:24 AM PST by Yaelle (.Go Santorum!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

The nice thing about this, is that California is winner take all... by “district” so Romney could theoretically win the state but lose most of the districts and thus most of the delegates.


9 posted on 02/13/2012 10:41:46 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Go Newt!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Are there any Republicans left in California?


10 posted on 02/13/2012 10:42:55 AM PST by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Rempublicam)
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To: Yaelle

Open Primary is CA??


11 posted on 02/13/2012 10:43:39 AM PST by magritte (Nevermind)
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To: Jim Robinson
Newt or Santorum. Either one is fine by me!!

Agreed - I'm happy to see them duke it out and even join on the ticket - just as long as Romney doesn't succeed with his "divide and conquer" strategy. If, as the latest poll suggests, Santorum is indeed competitive with Romney in California, that is very good news indeed.

12 posted on 02/13/2012 10:47:25 AM PST by tjd1454
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To: Jim Robinson

Nice post, Jim!

If people look real closely, they might be able to see a fat lady in the crowd slowly making her way to the stage. She’s not singing yet, but she does appear, hopefully, to be making her way to the stage.

Thank you, Newt, for your hard work for our country. I appreciate it. But I’ve been a Rick Santorum fan for a long time. I think that the Michigan and California polls are very encouraging.

I don’t like to predict, for I am neither a prophet nor the son of a prophet, and my predictions usually stink. But I will say this: The last poll in Ohio was more than two weeks ago. Romney, Gingrich, and Santorum were bunched closely together in that one. I predict that the next Ohio poll will be the next big news for Rick Santorum.


13 posted on 02/13/2012 10:49:03 AM PST by Engraved-on-His-hands
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To: TexasFreeper2009

come on newt drop out..dont take voters away from ricky..you cant win.....lol


14 posted on 02/13/2012 10:54:08 AM PST by skaterboy (Hate=Love....Love=Hate)
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To: Craftmore
Be careful what you wish for, Craftmore.

Vet your candidate--fully--before it's too late.

15 posted on 02/13/2012 10:56:42 AM PST by newzjunkey (Don't be suckered by Santorum: Look at his fraudulent charity, his fake PAC, his K Street dealing...)
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To: Yaelle

I cannot believe how stupid the leadership of the California GOP is. Nothing good comes from open primaries.
The democrats are not going to vote against 0bama in their primary. There is no need for them to vote for 0bama in the democrat primary. Of course the democrats will vote for Romney in the GOP primary. A blind man could see this from a mile away.


16 posted on 02/13/2012 10:56:55 AM PST by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: afraidfortherepublic; American Constitutionalist; Antoninus; AuH2ORepublican; BlackElk; ...
Santorum for President Ping List.

FReepmail “Antoninus” to be added or removed.

17 posted on 02/13/2012 10:59:45 AM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: All

http://www.ricksantorum.com/


18 posted on 02/13/2012 11:05:10 AM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Yaelle
No, they'll give you want you "want" -- they'll give you Santorum.

I had thought people would've wised up about vetting candidates and had enough of Senators wanting to be president. Even in my abject pessimism, I was too optimistic.

I should've known better.

19 posted on 02/13/2012 11:07:14 AM PST by newzjunkey (Santorum has baggage too. Demand an inspection!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

This is awesome. Santorum is the best candidate we could choose- a guy of substance and ideas whose personal life holds up to his words.


20 posted on 02/13/2012 11:09:31 AM PST by TroutGuy
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To: TroutGuy

and most importantly, he is someone that Romney’s billion dollar smear machine will have a nearly impossible time smearing.


21 posted on 02/13/2012 11:12:21 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Go Newt!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
ROMNEYS TALENTS, ROMANY YO-Y0-MA
22 posted on 02/13/2012 11:12:21 AM PST by FrankR (You are only enslaved to the extent of the entitlements you receive.)
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To: Jim Robinson; onyx

“If this keeps up, he’ll get my tea party vote from the heart of California’s conservative Central Valley!! Newt or Santorum. Either one is fine by me!!”

I agree. Of course I prefer Santorum but certainly would love to vote for Newt in the General. Come on Onyx join us.


23 posted on 02/13/2012 11:28:00 AM PST by napscoordinator (A moral principled Christian with character is the frontrunner! Congrats Santorum!)
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To: Cincinatus

Are there any Republicans left in California?

Me.


24 posted on 02/13/2012 11:32:24 AM PST by RacerX1128 (Cornered in CA)
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To: Craftmore

-—”And in the Newtered camp there was much wailing and gnashing of teeth”-—

Nope. We will wait, just like after Iowa when you guys were having your first Rickgasms and dancing on Newt’s grave. I remember nearly all of you predicting a Rick win in SC and finishing ahead of Newt in FL based on his Iowa performance.

Newt has still brought twice as many people out to vote for him so far as Rick. Not that it matters, since we all know that winning small, non-binding caucuses with low voting numbers and fewer delegates is the key to winning the nomination (/s).

“Momentum” didn’t carry Rick after Iowa, Mitt after NH, or Newt after SC. It is fun reading the “this time for SURE!!!!” posts, though. I’m sure Rick will be in the 50% range on Super Tuesday like you dream, and just wipe-out his oppenents with no subsiding of support due to attacks, or fallback in mojo for an entire month. This time for SURE!!!!!


25 posted on 02/13/2012 11:32:48 AM PST by TitansAFC (Rick Santorum is the suicide bomber of the 2012 Primary; he's going to take us all out with him.)
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To: napscoordinator; Jim Robinson

I’m in Mississippi. Newt Gingrich gets my vote!

He has my money, my prayers and my support.

If Santorum is the nominee, of course I will support him!


26 posted on 02/13/2012 11:34:02 AM PST by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

In lefty Kalipornia??

I thought all the sane people had already left?


27 posted on 02/13/2012 11:34:41 AM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Craftmore

but we have yet to hear the lamentations of their wimmin


28 posted on 02/13/2012 11:36:27 AM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: onyx; Jim Robinson

Very fair. It seems like everyone will support either Newt or Santorum in the general. That is a relief for me to know because it has been a bit “interesting” during the primary. lol. God Bless you Onyx. I miss you.


29 posted on 02/13/2012 11:37:09 AM PST by napscoordinator (A moral principled Christian with character is the frontrunner! Congrats Santorum!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Oh Noooooooooooooo!!!

Nothing could be finer than a Newt in Carolina ‘cept a Rick in San Fran Sick??????????????????

Don’t make me come over there and slap you;(


30 posted on 02/13/2012 11:46:50 AM PST by sodpoodle ( Newt - God has tested him for a reason...... to bring America back from the brink.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I agree...I’m a fellow Californian and it’s either Newt or Rick for this coming primary. I prefer Newt, but Rick will be A LOT better than Mitt.


31 posted on 02/13/2012 11:49:07 AM PST by Rick_Michael ( 'REAL' Conservatives who witch hunt their own, are no better than Obama.)
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To: GeronL
but we have yet to hear the lamentations of their wimmin

and the ululations of their girly-men

32 posted on 02/13/2012 12:11:18 PM PST by spokeshave (Mitt will release his tax returns when 0bambi releases his Birth Certificate and grades)
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To: napscoordinator; Jim Robinson
No need to miss me, dearest, sweet you, naps! I'm always here for you. Primaries are rough business. Santorum is not my favorite for many reasons and some has to do with his remarks about Sarah Palin. I think he has character flaws that I don't like in a man and that I find disgusting.

I will vote for him and support him if he's the nominee and I'm grateful that Romney is getting his just desserts!

NO Romney!

33 posted on 02/13/2012 12:15:04 PM PST by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Karl...is that smoke coming out of your ears?


34 posted on 02/13/2012 12:31:40 PM PST by MichaelCorleone (Stop feeding the beast; spend money only with those who support traditional American values.)
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To: napscoordinator
How many delegates are up for grabs in Kalifornia? Is it winner take all?
35 posted on 02/13/2012 1:10:12 PM PST by ExSoldier (Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...)
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To: onyx

I just think you are so special. How lucky we are here at Free Republic to have you here.


36 posted on 02/13/2012 2:47:25 PM PST by napscoordinator (A moral principled Christian with character is the frontrunner! Congrats Santorum!)
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To: Yaelle; antonius; writer33; napscoordinator

5 posted on Monday, February 13, 2012 12:32:38 PM by Yaelle: “Hey, this means I can see Santorum live finally! Senator, come to the great OC please!”

Yaelle, you’re Korean. You may be able to do more for your candidate than you realize.

Call around to Korean businessmen and offer to provide Korean-language brochures in their stores explaining why their customers should vote for Santorum. Make sure there’s a phone number on the brochures that people can call to speak to someone in Korean.

Call some large Korean churches where you personally know members and ask if they’d be interested in having a Korean-speaking representative of Rick Santorum (maybe you?) explain why American Christians should vote for Santorum.

Find out the voter registration deadline for California and the absentee ballot rules. If the deadline hasn’t yet passed, check the laws and arrange to get voters registered. In any case, arrange to get absentee ballots filled out.

Get some Korean-language Santorum bumper stickers printed. Same for some Korean-language yard signs and Korean-lanuage posters to put in windows of businesses.

Write letters supporting Santorum to the local Korean-language newspapers in Los Angeles and Orange County. Get your Korean friends to do the same in other cities in California.

When you’re done, you should be able to document that you’ve gotten several hundred Koreans registered and several dozen Koreans, maybe several hundred, to vote absentee in advance.

Then call the Santorum campaign with an offer to help organize a Korean rally for Rick Santorum.

If you do everything right and you’re lucky (or more accurately, if you’re blessed in your work) you may end up not just seeing Santorum on stage but standing on stage with him translating for a pre-primary rally, and then getting asked to head up something like a “Koreans for Santorum” campaign effort for the general election.

And no, I’m not kidding. If you haven’t guessed yet, I might just have a little bit of experience in campaign work.

Koreans are well-known for contributing large amounts of money to political campaigns, but are often politically naive and unsophisticated themselves. It requires a Korean to get that community to the polls, but when the community is motivated, it turns out thousands of voters and sometimes tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Ethnic voters who are motivated by faith and small business ownership are the key to winning states like California. There aren’t enough of us white guys left, in places like where you live, to win the state for Republicans. America is supposed to be a country where being a good patriotic Americans doesn’t depend on skin color, and I’ve said for a long time that Koreans and Hispanics could be the key to winning places that Republicans haven’t been able to win in several generations.


37 posted on 02/13/2012 3:44:02 PM PST by darrellmaurina
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To: Jim Robinson; Yaelle
6 posted on Monday, February 13, 2012 12:34:22 PM by Jim Robinson: “If this keeps up, he’ll get my tea party vote from the heart of California’s conservative Central Valley!!Newt or Santorum. Either one is fine by me!! FUMR!! FUBO!!We have a republic to save!!”

Thank you, Jim... I am **REALLY** glad to hear you say explicitly what I was already pretty sure you believed.

I'm pretty much in the same place as you, by the way. I prefer Santorum but I've already been taking a lot of “hits” in my church circles for saying Gingrich is acceptable.

On something more important:

Elsewhere on this thread, I gave FReeper Yaelle some on-the-ground practical suggestions for how to organize a Korean political campaign in Korean churches and businesses. I might just have a little bit of experience doing such things. What I don't have is knowledge of California election law, and she needs guidance.

Can you perhaps help Yaelle by putting her in contact with people who will steer her in the right direction?

Koreans often don't vote, and when they do vote they often vote based merely on the recommendation of somebody they know. That's a real problem in California where Koreans are overwhelmingly churchgoers and many are small business owners — they should vote Republican but often don't, simply because the wrong people get to them first.

I've put a “bug” in Yaelle’s ear. With some California help and a lot of hard work, I could easily see her turning out hundreds of votes and quite possibly helping organize an effort that turns out thousands of Korean votes.

Ethnic minority voters who run small businesses and go to church are the future of the Republican Party in places that haven't voted Republican for many generations. Koreans can and should be a big part of that.

38 posted on 02/13/2012 4:27:15 PM PST by darrellmaurina
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To: darrellmaurina; Yaelle
And no, I’m not kidding. If you haven’t guessed yet, I might just have a little bit of experience in campaign work.

Can I pretend to be Korean to get up on stage with Rick? LOL!

All joking aside, it's a great idea.

39 posted on 02/13/2012 5:06:08 PM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: darrellmaurina

Wow, I wish I could do your words justice. I’ve had my genetics studied down to HLA typing, but there is no evidence of Korean ancestry. I do love kimchi though and I have been to Korea. I also grew up not far from where they filmed MASH.

But I would love to help his campaign here. I have very few free hours even for phoning but I will try. I can be part of Jews for santorum or moms for santorum. My baby goes everywhere I go. I am already sitting in my car right now spreading the santorum word on my bumper.


40 posted on 02/13/2012 6:29:24 PM PST by Yaelle (.Go Santorum!)
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To: darrellmaurina; writer33

Omgosh! I was supposed to get thousands of Korean votes for santorum! I’m disapPointed in myself for not being Korean!! Maybe writer33 and I will both have to fake it!


41 posted on 02/13/2012 6:36:17 PM PST by Yaelle (.Go Santorum!)
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To: darrellmaurina; writer33

Omgosh! I was supposed to get thousands of Korean votes for santorum! I’m disapPointed in myself for not being Korean!! Maybe writer33 and I will both have to fake it!


42 posted on 02/13/2012 6:36:47 PM PST by Yaelle (Go Santorum!)
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To: Yaelle
42 posted on Monday, February 13, 2012 8:36:47 PM by Yaelle: “Omgosh! I was supposed to get thousands of Korean votes for santorum! I’m disapPointed in myself for not being Korean!! Maybe writer33 and I will both have to fake it!”

Now I am the one who is embarrassed.

For some reason I thought you were an ethnic Korean, and have been thinking that for a long time on Free Republic, though I was aware of the religious difference.

My sincere apologies. (INSERT DEEP BOW HERE.)

Now back on track, if there are any Korean lurkers in California who support Santorum and are reading what I said, listen to what I said even though I made a mistake in who I said it to. It takes Koreans to effectively reach Koreans, and when Koreans vote, they often do so en masse.

I've seen just one or two Koreans work to turn out literally hundreds of votes for their candidate, and working in organized groups can result in thousands of votes. It reminds me of reading the stories of the ethnic neighborhoods and the political machines of the 1800s, except that Korean voting blocs rely on a strange mixture of very old-fashioned techniques for the older voters with the latest Twitter feeds, email blasts, and text messages for the high-tech second generation.

It works. I've seen it done, and in a state like California, the Korean churches and the Korean business community are perfect examples of people who should vote Republican but too often do not.

I hope somebody is listening and gets some good ideas to put to use.

43 posted on 02/13/2012 7:00:23 PM PST by darrellmaurina
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To: TexasFreeper2009

There is an outside chance Saint Rick could win the nomination from delegates from states that he cannot win in the fall, states already pre-committed to Obama. We shall see, but somehow I don’t see the establishment losing.


44 posted on 02/16/2012 6:02:14 AM PST by Theodore R. (Forget the others: It's Santorum's turn, less baggage, articulate, passionate)
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