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Doomsday Prepper Declared Mental Defective…. Government confiscates his Guns
offgridsurvival.com ^ | 2/11/2012 | Off GridSurvival.com

Posted on 02/13/2012 10:39:58 AM PST by JohnKinAK

Just days after appearing on the National Geographic TV Show Doomsday Prepper, a prepper from Tennessee has been declared Mentally Defective and his guns have been seized by the government. The Prepper, David Sarti is a character to say the least, but his story is somewhat disturbing and should be a wake up call for everyone.

Personally I think these shows are designed to make these people look crazy. Whether his appearance on the show played into Mr. Sarti’s diagnosis isn’t yet clear, but apparently the State believed he was a danger to himself after a local doctor insisted that Mr. Sarti was suicidal.

Mr. Sarti denies the charges and insists that he told the doctor he was a Christian and his belief made it impossible for him to commit suicide. Here is his story:


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Lesson Learned............don't go on World Wide television! Unless it is to profess your obedience.

1 posted on 02/13/2012 10:40:01 AM PST by JohnKinAK
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To: JohnKinAK
From the comments:

"OPSEC people. Never let anyone know what you have."

Amen!

2 posted on 02/13/2012 10:42:47 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: JohnKinAK

RKBA types learned that lesson long ago.


3 posted on 02/13/2012 10:46:06 AM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: JohnKinAK

I’ve been a subscriber to David’s Youtube channel for nearly 2 years and have learned alot, especially regarding food storage. I do hope he gets this worked out.


4 posted on 02/13/2012 10:46:47 AM PST by MachIV
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To: JohnKinAK
"..Personally I think these shows are designed to make these people look crazy.."

Duh! If you are a "Prepper" the last thing you need is publicity! What happens if the balloon goes up and the neighbors know YOU have supplies?

5 posted on 02/13/2012 10:47:35 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: JohnKinAK

With what kinds of behavior the Mental Health experts are calling normal they have no credibility to say what is Mental Illness...


6 posted on 02/13/2012 10:50:32 AM PST by Mechanicos (Why does the DOE have a SWAT Team?)
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To: JohnKinAK

I would think this gentleman needed an attorney “on call”.
It helps if said attorney is politically connected, as in he is also associated with one’s State Legislature, is a County Judge, District Attorney, etc. Many of these attorneys have a private practice, aside from their official capacity. I guess it’s called the good old boy’s network.

Btw, I think that is more important than having a physician on call.

An attorney could call a judge, aske for a writ of habeas corpus, IIRC, and he would not have had to go through all of this.


7 posted on 02/13/2012 10:57:02 AM PST by sockmonkey
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To: JohnKinAK

A guy would have to be crazy to go on TV...er, no wait a sec...;-)


8 posted on 02/13/2012 11:01:13 AM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: sockmonkey

Under the NDAA having a lawyer might not do you any good, ie if the POTUS declares you an enemy combatant. It’s like 1939 Germany............never argue with Berlin!


9 posted on 02/13/2012 11:01:26 AM PST by JohnKinAK
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To: JohnKinAK

Publicity makes one a target. The old adage “out of sight-out of mind” makes so much sense!


10 posted on 02/13/2012 11:08:02 AM PST by old school
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To: JohnKinAK

Predicted this result here on FR, when show first announced.
Further predicted this will be leftist fodder to ridicule the right.


11 posted on 02/13/2012 11:09:13 AM PST by G Larry (We are NOT obliged to carry the snake in our pocket and then dismiss the bites as natural behavior.)
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marked for later


12 posted on 02/13/2012 11:09:24 AM PST by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: JohnKinAK

Horrifying. I agree, keep your mouth shut. I write a blog for the Worcester (MA) Telegram and Gazette and this is one subject I will NEVER EVER write about.

I never talk about what I believe in this regard nor what I own or store. Ever.


13 posted on 02/13/2012 11:10:07 AM PST by Peter from Rutland
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To: rockrr
A guy would have to be crazy to go on TV...er, no wait a sec...;-)

I used to have dozens of guns and thousands of rounds of ammo, but then came the great disaster, known as the canoe sink. All were lost.

I once owned a few acres in the woods and had a small cabin, concrete block walls cover with logs, an internal well, and well stocked, but it burned down and the deed was lost.

I had various bags of real gold coins, but they fell off the back of my truck and are gone forever.

I once was very well prepared for the future, but now I just sit and moan about all of my bad luck, woe is me, poe' ole joe.

I am smart enuff not to go on TV and tell them my views about the future, I'd be called a crazy ole man, and they might find where the canoe sank.

14 posted on 02/13/2012 11:12:24 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorists savages.)
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To: JohnKinAK

OPSEC is vital but the action had nothing to do with the show. He published a video explaining. It occured well before the show. His heart doctor asked him if he thought of suicide and he was dumb enough to joke about it.


15 posted on 02/13/2012 11:12:38 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: JohnKinAK

I don’t have a problem believing he is crazy just because he invited attention. I do have a problem with the government confiscating his property. If he is unstable, the weapons should go to a relative or to someone he designates.


16 posted on 02/13/2012 11:18:19 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: JohnKinAK
Doesn't he know he should have an canoeing accident and lose his guns so the government a criminal doesn't get them and commit crimes with it. It is best to lose your guns in a river than risk them fall in the wrong hands. :->
17 posted on 02/13/2012 11:19:59 AM PST by mnehring
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To: JohnKinAK
a local doctor insisted that Mr. Sarti was suicidal.

Imagine the damage Obama and Bloomberg could with their their minions of liberal doctor's.

18 posted on 02/13/2012 11:22:08 AM PST by aimhigh
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To: USS Alaska

I’m sorry for your loss....Joe


19 posted on 02/13/2012 11:23:18 AM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: JohnKinAK
Is he crazy enough to collect state benefits?
Lose his drivers license?
20 posted on 02/13/2012 11:23:52 AM PST by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways a Guero y Guay Lao << >> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona)
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To: JohnKinAK

number 39 on the list of communist goals for America.

39) Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.


21 posted on 02/13/2012 11:34:15 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: old school
Publicity makes one a target. The old adage “out of sight-out of mind” makes so much sense!

Kinda hard to do when I have a Hutaree miltia member living about half a mile away. LOL
22 posted on 02/13/2012 11:37:09 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: aimhigh
Imagine the damage Obama and Bloomberg could with their their minions of liberal doctor's.

0bamacare, control the health care system, control hospitals, control doctors.

Disagree with The System and you are locked up, denied health care or you face the death panels. No good choices there.

23 posted on 02/13/2012 11:39:22 AM PST by TYVets (Pure-Gas.org ..... ethanol free gasoline by state and city)
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To: cripplecreek

My father was a doctor and a brig. genereal in the Air Force. He always said shrinks were crazier than the people they were helping.


24 posted on 02/13/2012 11:40:52 AM PST by Himyar
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To: old school
"Publicity makes one a target. The old adage “out of sight-out of mind” makes so much sense!"

LOL! I was thinking the same thing when I was watching Moonshiners the other night. If the ABC detectives can't locate these guys after watching a few shows then they are worthless... UNLESS, of course, these guys are all actors.

25 posted on 02/13/2012 11:41:45 AM PST by Hatteras
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To: rockrr
I’m sorry for your loss....Joe

Thanks, reckon you could lend me one of your extra guns that you found after your canoe sank?

I could loan you Daisey Mae...

26 posted on 02/13/2012 11:43:35 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorists savages.)
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To: Himyar

I knew a guy who was an air force psychologist. He was booted out of the air force for stalking his estranged wife and apparently plotting to kidnap her.


27 posted on 02/13/2012 11:43:35 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: JohnKinAK

Mental camp

Phony-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager


28 posted on 02/13/2012 11:45:15 AM PST by Varsity Flight (Phony-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: Hatteras
Everyone is making money and no one associated with that show will ever go to jail... and maybe it is just another WWE.

LLS

29 posted on 02/13/2012 11:57:11 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Hey repubic elite scumbags... jam mitt up your collective arses!)
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To: Kartographer

FYI


30 posted on 02/13/2012 11:57:26 AM PST by Whenifhow
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To: USS Alaska

I dropped my guns and ammo on Mt St. Helens in the late 70s when a bear chased me off the mountain. Then the volcano exploded and I think my stuff might have added to the blast.


31 posted on 02/13/2012 11:59:04 AM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture (Could be worst in 40 years))
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To: Himyar
My father was a doctor and a brig. genereal in the Air Force. He always said shrinks were crazier than the people they were helping.

Let's not forget this psychiatrist

Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, an Army psychiatrist, is accused of the mass shooting that took place on Nov. 5, 2009, at Fort Hood, Tex. The incident was one of the worst mass shootings ever on an American military base. Thirteen people were killed and close to 30 people were wounded.

32 posted on 02/13/2012 12:00:32 PM PST by Capt. Tom
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To: Whenifhow

Mental, terrorist, whatever, they will be coming for all of us soon.


33 posted on 02/13/2012 12:03:17 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: USS Alaska

Sorry - I don’t do guns......my kids’ teacher told me they’re icky.


34 posted on 02/13/2012 12:05:16 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: JohnKinAK

IIRC in the Old progressive Soviet Union they used to determine dissidents as insane in order to lock them up.

How do you Prove this isn’t the case?

You can prove you’re not a criminal – if you have a clean record and/or you don’t work for the government.

But how do you factually prove you’re not mentally defective or whatever term they wish to use?

I seem to recall on other sites leftists using the line of not letting the insane have guns – this is why they’re using that talking point apparently.


35 posted on 02/13/2012 12:05:48 PM PST by Voice of Reason88 ( Freedom is never lost all at once - Edmund Burke)
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To: LibLieSlayer

The whole raison d’etre for this show is to

delegitimize preppers.

And the reason they must do that is that we are blaspheming their “god”, the collective.


36 posted on 02/13/2012 12:07:02 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: USS Alaska

> I could loan you Daisey Mae ...
That ain’t Daisey Mae, that’s Moonbeam McSwine.


37 posted on 02/13/2012 12:07:37 PM PST by BuffaloJack (Defeat Obama. End Obama's War On Freedom.)
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To: steve86
I dropped my guns and ammo on Mt St. Helens in the late 70s when a bear chased me off the mountain

Funny, the year I climbed (pre-eruption) St. Helens that's exactly what happened to our group (the bear, not the guns & ammo).

38 posted on 02/13/2012 12:08:51 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: aimhigh

“Imagine the damage Obama and Bloomberg could with their their minions of liberal doctor’s.”

We don’t have to imagine. We have 0-care and although most doctors are not Leftists, there will be enough of them to write out ‘mental health tickets’ resulting in gun confiscation.

As a physician and gun owner, I find this absolutely detestable. Makes me want to go out an buy another gun.


39 posted on 02/13/2012 12:10:36 PM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot.)
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To: driftdiver
His heart doctor asked him if he thought of suicide and he was dumb enough to joke about it.

When any "medical professional" asks you any question containing the magic word "suicide", all your alarms should go off at once.

It's worse than being asked "Does this $X make me look fat?"

Nowhere to run, nowhere to hide.

40 posted on 02/13/2012 12:15:30 PM PST by thulldud (Is it "alter or abolish" time yet?)
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To: Capt. Tom

Hasan wasn’t crazy, he was just following the edicts of his religion and trying to murder as many infidels as possible.


41 posted on 02/13/2012 12:15:31 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: Voice of Reason88

The doctor claims he is suicidal, but suicidal people don’t gather things up for the future.


42 posted on 02/13/2012 12:19:40 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Duh! If you are a "Prepper" the last thing you need is publicity! What happens if the balloon goes up and the neighbors know YOU have supplies?

That's why I counsel queuing up at the foodlines if TSHTF, otherwise people might wonder "how cum" you aren't there and visit you to find out why.

43 posted on 02/13/2012 12:21:54 PM PST by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: cripplecreek
You inspired me to post the 45 planks read into the congressional record.

1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.

4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.

5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.

6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.

7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.

8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev’s promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.

9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.

10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.

11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)

12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.

13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.

14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.

15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers’ associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to “eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms.”

23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. “Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art.”

24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them “censorship” and a violation of free speech and free press.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with “social” religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a “religious crutch.”

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of “separation of church and state.”

29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the “common man.”

31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the “big picture.” Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.

32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture—education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.

34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.

36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.

38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].

39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use [”]united force[”] to solve economic, political or social problems.

43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government. 44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.

45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.
[From "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen] ]

Pretty scary how successful cultural marxism has been!
44 posted on 02/13/2012 12:22:34 PM PST by khelus
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To: MrB

I agree... I have never watched it and I will not watch it.

LLS


45 posted on 02/13/2012 12:29:35 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (Hey repubic elite scumbags... jam mitt up your collective arses!)
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To: Capt. Tom

“Let’s not forget this psychiatrist ~Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, an Army psychiatrist, is accused of the mass shooting that took place on Nov. 5, 2009, at Fort Hood, Tex. The incident was one of the worst mass shootings ever on an American military base. Thirteen people were killed and close to 30 people were wounded. “

Just another case of “workplace violence” - didn’t you read the MSM newspapers ?
The fact that he was yelling: “Allah Akbar” is irrelevent.


46 posted on 02/13/2012 12:36:07 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Hasan wasn’t crazy, he was just following the edicts of his religion and trying to murder as many infidels as possible.

Agreed. Hasan was put in a position of either doing what God (Allah) wants done, or collaborating with us Infidels.
Some of the trusted Muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan have made the same decision. This will be an ongoing problem with trusted Muslims. You never know when they will get religion. - Tom

47 posted on 02/13/2012 12:38:02 PM PST by Capt. Tom
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To: BuffaloJack
I could loan you Daisey Mae ... That ain’t Daisey Mae, that’s Moonbeam McSwine.

When I gets to swigging on this, I gets my wymen confused.

Wow, I musta really been into that jug of corn likker.

48 posted on 02/13/2012 12:44:51 PM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorists savages.)
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To: sockmonkey

>An attorney could call a judge, aske for a writ of habeas corpus, IIRC, and he would not have had to go through all of this.

Not anymore; the NDAA was the suspension of habeas corpus, and all perfectly legal as it was for “the security.”


49 posted on 02/13/2012 1:24:45 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: JohnKinAK
Most preppers I've known always go out on the grid to let everyone know they're going off the grid.

Also see so many folks go out on the net to brag about all their weapons and so forth, even displaying pictures of the hardware they own.

As for me, I can't stand those firearms. Don't own a one. Just killin machines is what they are, yeah yeah, killin machines.

50 posted on 02/13/2012 1:27:28 PM PST by servantboy777
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