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Utah offical proposes higher Medicaid co-pays for smokers-State Representative Paul Ray(R)
FoxNews ^ | 2/14/12 | Alicia Acuna

Posted on 02/14/2012 5:16:09 PM PST by Jean S

Lower-income smokers in Utah may soon have to pay more for a doctor's visit if they continue the unhealthy habit. That is, if a bill currently making its way through the state legislature passes.

State Representative Paul Ray, R., is the author of the proposal to charge a Medicaid recipient a higher co-pay for doctor visits if he or she smokes cigarettes.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: medicaidcopay; medicaidforsmokers; smokers; smokerspremium; smoking

1 posted on 02/14/2012 5:16:18 PM PST by Jean S
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2 posted on 02/14/2012 5:18:06 PM PST by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: Jean S; The Cajun

They’d get danged near lynched in the South for a similar proposal.


3 posted on 02/14/2012 5:20:00 PM PST by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: Jean S

Seems fair to me. Then once the precedent is in they can charge more to all sorts of other people who engage in behaviors that run up health care costs.

Like homosexuals, crack addicts, pot smokers...you know, the Democrats’ key constituencies.


4 posted on 02/14/2012 5:20:17 PM PST by MeganC (No way in Hell am I voting for Mitt Romney. Not now, not ever. Deal with it.)
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To: Jean S

They SHOULD!! geesh, if are RICH enough to smoke a $5.00 a day pack, and STUPID enough to smoke a $5.00 a day pack or MORE, than you SHOULD pay more!!


5 posted on 02/14/2012 5:25:57 PM PST by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Jean S

Arent they taxed enough already?


6 posted on 02/14/2012 5:26:46 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Jean S

So are these jerks going to remove the massive tax they put on cigarettes after the institute this or will that extra money go to more welfare spending.


7 posted on 02/14/2012 5:28:45 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: MeganC

They logical next in line are 1) the overweight and 2) those who eat unhealthy diets.


8 posted on 02/14/2012 5:29:15 PM PST by M. Dodge Thomas
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To: Jean S
There shouldn't be a Federal health care program at all. Ever. It's not an enumerated power in the Constitution.

/johnny

9 posted on 02/14/2012 5:32:53 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Jean S

They SHOULD raise gasoline taxes!! geesh, if are RICH enough to buy $5.00 a gallon and STUPID enough to drive more than 5 miles a day or MORE, than you SHOULD pay more!!


10 posted on 02/14/2012 5:33:31 PM PST by Mark (Don't argue with my posts. I typed while under sniper fire..)
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To: Jean S

The American hysteria over health matters is the politicians royal road to increased taxes.


11 posted on 02/14/2012 5:34:56 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Ann Archy
They SHOULD!! geesh, if are RICH enough to smoke a $5.00 a day pack, and STUPID enough to smoke a $5.00 a day pack or MORE, than you SHOULD pay more!!

I smoke, roll my own. About $1.00 a pack.

Do you eat meat or go to fast food restaurants or breath out Co2 or own a gun?

Go away. You're a statist. Go away.

FMCDH(BITS)

12 posted on 02/14/2012 5:37:33 PM PST by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: MeganC

It means the Feds get to inspect your medical records.

Maybe you don’t care?


13 posted on 02/14/2012 5:46:38 PM PST by donna (I want to live in a Judeo/Christian country where we know that, before God, men & women are equal.)
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To: Mark

If this is truly how Utah feels, why don’t they just outlaw the things? They won’t because they want the tax money. Double standards here.


14 posted on 02/14/2012 5:55:59 PM PST by RC2
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To: MeganC

“Then once the precedent is in they can charge more to all sorts of other people who engage in behaviors that run up health care costs.”

I want to see how they go after the fat people, and those with high cholesterol...


15 posted on 02/14/2012 5:58:28 PM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: nothingnew

Not only do I roll my own, I grow my own. Couple this with the Feds policing school lunches, etc., we are seeing real tyranny in our face.

When is enough, going to be enough? The line in the sand seems a bit faint, eh?


16 posted on 02/14/2012 5:59:18 PM PST by DaveinOK54 (Freedom is not Free and I'll never quit defending it.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

“There shouldn’t be a Federal health care program at all. Ever. It’s not an enumerated power in the Constitution.”

I hereby appoint you the voice of reason.


17 posted on 02/14/2012 6:00:44 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: onyx
They’d get danged near lynched in the South for a similar proposal.

Naw, probably be shot long before that, LOL.

18 posted on 02/14/2012 6:00:56 PM PST by The Cajun (Palin, Free Republic, Mark Levin, Newt......Nuff said.)
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To: sergeantdave
You would regret that by midnight Friday night. ;)

But the whole issue would go away if the federal government stuck to what it was actually allowed to do.

/johnny

19 posted on 02/14/2012 6:04:34 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Jean S

I’m good with this.


20 posted on 02/14/2012 6:09:14 PM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: M. Dodge Thomas

A Turkey sandwhich


21 posted on 02/14/2012 6:12:28 PM PST by funfan (and his crew)
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To: JRandomFreeper

“You would regret that by midnight Friday night. ;)”

Well, that’s okay. That gives everyone three days to prepare. What are you cooking for breakfast Wednesday morning?

As Ben Franklin said: I believe in breakfast before revolution.


22 posted on 02/14/2012 6:28:53 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: Jean S

Utah State Representative Paul Ray added that the new Soylent Green plant was having to reject some of the current input due to past smoking behavior.

“Not everybody likes that smoke taste in their Soylent biscuits,” added the Deseret Solon.


23 posted on 02/14/2012 7:00:48 PM PST by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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To: Jean S

Welcome to the Utah version of “social conservatism” where the law helps you to keep free from sinning. The predominant religion in Utah believes that smoking is a sin.


24 posted on 02/14/2012 7:06:00 PM PST by colorcountry (In order to practice tolerance, I must first disagree. But when I do, I'm accused of being intoleran)
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To: sergeantdave
What are you cooking for breakfast Wednesday morning?

First breakfast will be coffee, biscuits and sausage gravy. Second breakfast will be coffee, fried eggs, bacon, and toast.

Just like every day except Sunday.

/johnny

25 posted on 02/14/2012 8:06:26 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Lazlo in PA

yeah, wasn’t that what the big tax was supposed to be for? to offset the larger health care bill for smokers?? of course they never took into account the tons of money the government is saved by smokers not living long enough to collect full social security.


26 posted on 02/14/2012 8:16:45 PM PST by annelizly
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To: donna

“It means the Feds get to inspect your medical records.”

Electronic medical records (EMR) are already required under law and to think that the Feds wouldn’t inspect them anyway is naive.


27 posted on 02/17/2012 11:35:38 AM PST by MeganC (No way in Hell am I voting for Mitt Romney. Not now, not ever. Deal with it.)
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