Skip to comments.Rick Santorum visits the Gem State (Idaho)
Posted on 02/14/2012 9:48:34 PM PST by Domandred
Republican Presidential hopeful Rick Santorum visited Boise tonight to a packed house at Capitol High School. More than 30 minutes before the speech started, the 1300 capacity auditorium was full and any new arrivals were sent to a spillover gym across campus.
Santorum started his speech speaking about his family. There was applause when he spoke about his seven children, ranging in ages from 3 to 20. He said Last time I said I had 7 children, I was in NY, and there wasnt applause. I bet a lot of you have that many children.
He also used his family to talk about who he is, and perhaps even his other challengers. If I am the only one who accepts the challenge of faith and family, I will take that.
The rest of the speech was aimed against the Obama administration and other government. He also spoke about global warming, Habeas Corpus, Obamas health insurance plan, religious freedom and contraception. There were a few mentions of his now-famous sweater vests.
He was well received by most the audience, although a few times throughout the night a jeer was shouted out. Besides that, there were no demonstrations or other hecklers apparent.
At one point he pulled out his pocket copy of the Declaration of Independence and said We are the greatest country in the history of the world. When he read the line endowed by their creator there was much applause when he emphasized the word creator. He followed the applause with You people in Idaho know these things.
He then spoke of how he believes it is our now our duty to do the right thing for our country, pushing the point that We will be the last stand.
There were many state legislators in attendance, Russ Fulcher and Bob Nonini being two. Treasurer Ron Crane was also in the crowd.
Santorum finished his speech with the thought that Thats what every election is about the future.
Santorum then took about 30 minutes of questions from the crowd.
One thing I noticed is the article said "When he read the line endowed by their creator there was much applause". Not entirely true. Rick read the line "endowed by their" (pause)...and the audience said "CREATOR", then started applauding, then "You people in Idaho know these things". Yea love Idaho.
Didn't see many (any) protesters in the overflow. One guy got kicked out for talking too loud either to his friend or on cell phone. Didn't see which but wasn't heckling didn't seem. Was real close to me and seem more like a "SHHHH people can't hear" removal than "Get out you Occupy moron".
Two guys walked in holding hands but didn't say anything, just held up their hands at the door and walked out. That was just about it for them.
After his speech to the main room Rick came over to the overflow area and took two questions from us, then walked the room shaking hands and taking pictures, for free. (Unlike Romney who is supposed to be here Friday, at $1000 a ticket, $2500 for pictures).
John Kerry, who served in Viet Nam.
Rick Santorum, who has 7 kids.
Are we electing a Daddy?
Just now noticed a glaring ommission in this article. Rick spent a LOT of time talking about Iran, probably more than any other topic.
Perry was the first on top of Iran and Syria, but he was a doofus.
There were a few mentions of his now-famous sweater vests.
There were a few mentions of his now-famous sweater vests.
Sounds great! I hope he comes here so that my Mom and I can attend on of his rallies!
...And they were probably livid that they didn't get any more attention than that. I predicted quite some time ago, that the most irrational elements of the left, specifically the homo and pro-death lobbies, would become increasingly shrill as Santorum gained traction. Next, there will be two guys making out. When that doesn't raise enough eyebrows, they'll try having sex at a Santorum rally. Eventually their depravity will be on open enough of a display it will drive many middle of the road Americans firmly into the Santorum camp.
Out boldy articulating your candidate’s case again, I see.
I thought Idaho was the potato state.
FReepmail Antoninus to be added or removed.
“When he read the line endowed by their creator there was much applause when he emphasized the word creator.”
OHMIGOSH that means THEOCRACY!!!!!!!!1 oh noes!
Santorum/Gingrich? I’d proudly vote for that ticket.
That looks like a joke because we know Edwards is an adulterer.
It happened and people on the left ate it up.
Thanks for the report ....If you have any vid cam/phone reports why not offer them to his staff so they can select and perhaps use them...As a matter of fact the same applies for Newt...What these guys are doing on the stump because they’re hitting the big zero give a flavor to what both are about ...But his report has been one of the best I’ve read anbout their candidate and what he’s doing on the stump...
Your a curious bird. I see you only on Santorum threads slamming him for every sort of thing, including who his wife dated before they even met. A whole page of post by you over the past couple days and barely anything other than slamming Rick.
Is there any reason you are not promoting your candidate instead of slamming Rick in a ridiculous fashion? Maybe you are afraid to promote your man Mitt Romney here on these threads. Maybe you are just a garden variety troll without anything to add to the conversation other than hate.
“including who his wife dated before they even met.”
wow that’s really desperate. I’m sure if they keep looking, they’ll find a ticket for jaywalking or a misdemeanor for chewing gum in class.
Since I help run the ping list, I find that I read most of the Santorum threads posted here. I see the same small handful of posters on them slamming Rick constantly for the stupidest stuff. Never promote their guy and how he is better. They just post intellectually vapid hate on Rick.
“Never promote their guy and how he is better. They just post intellectually vapid hate on Rick.”
Sounds just like Romney
Speaking of the seven kids ranging from 3-20, I have a question that has been bothering me since a CNN debate.
I don’t know if Santorum was joking or serious.
Wolf Blitzer asked the candidates what they would change in the White House. Santorum said if he became president, he would expand the White House not for government, but for his seven children who would need lots of bedrooms.
Was he serious?
Sounds like a freakin’ joke to me.
Clearly, Santorum intentionally waited to be born so he could dodge Vietnam!
You totally missed my point.
You are pathetically off base. I think Rick Santorum would be a disaster for the Republican Party.
I still fantasize about how wonderful a Palin/West ticket would be but in the real world I’d be pretty happy with Rick Santorum heading the ticket. For all his imperfections, he’s hands down the most conservative electable among those with rational foreign policy views.
You accuse everybody of “hate”. Not too long ago you were accusing me of being an anti-Catholic bigot who hates all Catholics, even though I’m supporting Newt, and of going after Santorum’s family, even though I didn’t.
You’re a terrible shill for a empty suit candidate.
I’ve challenged several Santorumbots on various sites to explain how Saint Rick’s platform is superior.
So far, I’ve had no takers, except for this one guy who started saying that the flat tax and fair tax were equal, and that according to Catholic doctrine we’re supposed to fight against the big bad greedy corporations.
I’d love to see how you do!
Oops, not equal, a guy who accused the fair tax and the flat taxes of being “evil”. Typo**
I’ll also take the opportunity to add, that a comment in favor of Rick’s platform does not consist of : “Newt’s more evil than my guy!” and then not addressing the challenge!
Santorumbots don’t argue from Santorum’s platform. They argue on his character and from his religion, and put the icing on the cake by bashing the other candidates of doing exactly what Saint Rick himself has done!
God help us if conservatives decide to send this empty suit to the nomination! We have an opportunity here thanks to Obama to make some serious reforms, but Saint Rick actually opposes anything that actually damages the current progressive system!
All that matters is “family values”, Moral Superiority and he goes to church. And has one wife. That thing about the Government going to crap, not to mention the fact that we only have anout 2 years to fix this fiscal mess or lose this country permanently, is not important by golly. It's all about principles and how you perceive them.........
The only candidate who can even remotely fix this mess is Newt, but there is no way we can elect him, because he had 3....COUNT ‘EM......3 marriages. He also has kids who love him and respect him and think he is a wonderful dad, but because he's Newt Gingrich, that does not count!
Proven Executive ability and a strong knowledge of fiscal restraint is not important either, because the Reverend Rick is Principled, GOD will guide him and he is perfect, so all that trivial budget and national security stuff will be provided free of charge.
With a record like Santroums, perhaps we need to “articulate” that some more, since you are always so respectful and coutreous towards those you deem inferior.
Voted for taxpayer funding of the National Endowment for the Arts.
Voted against a 10% cut in the budget for National Endowment for the Arts.
Voted for a Schumer amendment to make the debts of pro-life demonstrators not dischargeable in bankruptcy.
Defense and Foreign Policy
Voted for the Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC).
Voted against requiring the President to certify that the CWC is effectively verifiable.
Voted against requiring the President to certify that that Iran, Iraq, Syria, Libya, North Korea, China, and all other countries determined to be state sponsors of terror have joined CWC prior to submitting the instrument of ratification.
Voted for the START II Treaty
Voted to allow the sale of supercomputers to China.
Voted to ban antipersonnel landmines
Voted against increasing defense spending offset by equivalent cuts in non-defense spending.
Voted to require that Federal bureaucrats get the same payraises as uniformed military.
Voted to allow food and medicine sales to state sponsors of terror and tyranical regimes such as Libya and Cuba.
Voted to limit the Presidents authority to impose sanctions on nations for reasons of national security unless the sanctions were approved by a multilateral regime.
Voted against requiring Congressional authorization for military action in Bosnia.
Voted to give $25 million in foreign aid to North Korea
Voted to weaken alien terrorist deportation provisions. If the Court determines that the evidence must be withheld for national security reasons, the Justice Department must still provide a summary of the evidence sufficient for the alien terrorist to mount a defense against deportation.
Voted against delaying the India Nuclear until the President certified that India had agreed to suspend military-to-military exchanges with Iran.
Voted against the Conventional Trident Missile Program
Voted for Richard Paez to the 9th Curcuit (cloture)
Voted for Sonia Sotomayor, Circuit Judge
Voted for Richard Holbrooke to be Ambassador to the UN
Voted for Margaret Morrow to be District Judge
Voted twice for Marsha Berzon to the 9thg Circuit
Voted for Mary McLaughlin to be District Judge
Voted for Tim Dyk to be District Judge
Voted for James Brady to be District Judge
Voted against National Right to Work Act
Voted against Real of Davis-Bacon Prevailing union wages
Voted for Alexis Herman to be Secretary of Labor
Voted for mandatory Federal child care funding
Voted for Trade Adjustment Assistance.
Voted for Job Corps funding
Voted twice in support of Fedex Unionization
Voted against allowing a waiver of Davis-Bacon in emergency situations.
Voted for minimum wage increases six times here here here here here and here
Voted to require a union representative on an IRS oversight board.
Voted to exempt IRS union representative from criminal ethics laws.
Voted against creating independent Board of Governors to investigate IRS abuses.
Voted to require pawn shops to do background checks on people who pawn a gun.
Voted twice to make it illegal to sell a gun without a secure storage or safety device
Voted for a Federal ban on possession of assault weapons by those under 18.
Voted for Federal funding for anti-gun education programs in schools.
Voted for anti-gun juvenile justice bill.
Voted for funding for the legal services corporation.
Voted twice for a Congressional payraise.
Voted to impose a uniform Federal mandate on states to force them to allow convicted rapits, arsonists, drug kingpins, and all other ex-convicts to vote in Federal elections.
Voted for the Specter backup plan to allow campaign finance reform to survive if portions of the bill were found unconstitutional.
Voted to mandate discounted broadcast times for politicians.
Voted for a McCain amendment to require State and local campaign committees to report all campaign contributions to the FEC and to require all campaign contributions to be reported to the FEC within 24 hours within 90 days of an election.
Voted against increasing the number of immigration investigators
Voted to allow illegal immigrants to receive the earned income credit before becoming citizens
Voted to give SSI benefits to legal aliens.
Voted to give welfare benefits to naturalized citizens without regard to to the earnings of their sponsors.
Voted against hiring an additional 1,000 border partrol agents, paid for by reductions in state grants.
Voted against a flat tax.
Voted to increase tobacco taxes to pay for Medicare prescription drugs
Voted to increase tobacco taxes to fund health insurance subsidies for small businesses.
Voted to increase tobacco taxes to pay for an $8 billion increase in child healh insurance.
Voted to increase tobacco taxes to pay for an increase in NIH funding.
Voted twice for internet taxes.
Voted to allow gas tax revenues to be used to subsidize Amtrak.
Voted to strike marriage penalty tax relief and instead provide fines on tobacco companies.
Voted against repealing the Clinton 4.3 cent gas tax increase.
Voted to increase taxes by $2.3 billion to pay for an Amtrak trust fund.
Voted to allow welfare to a minor who had a child out of wedlock and who resided with an adult who was on welfare within the previous two years.
Voted to increase taxes by $9.4 billion to pay for a $9.4 billion increase in student loans.
Voted to say that AMT patch is more important than capital gains and dividend relief.
Voted against food stamp reform
Voted against Medicaid reform
Voted against TANF reform
Voted to increase the Social Services Block Grant from $1 billion to $2 billion
Voted to increase the FHA loan from $170,000 to $197,000. Also opposed increasing GNMA guaranty from 6 basis points to 12.
Voted for $2 billion for low income heating assistance.
Sponsored An amendment to increase Amtrak funds by $550 million
Voted to use HUD funds for the Joslyn Art Museum (NE), the Stand Up for Animals project (RI) and the Seattle Art Museums Olympic Sculpture Project (WA)
Voted to increase spending on social programs by $7 billion
Voted to increase NIH funding by $1.6 billion.
Voted to increase NIHnding by $700 million
Voted to for a $2 million earmark to renovate the Vulcan Monument (AL)
Voted for a $1 billion bailout for the steel industry
Voted against requiring that highway earmarks would come out of a states highway allocation
Voted to allow Market Access Program funds to go to foreign companies.
Voted to allow OPIC to increase its administrative costs by 50%
Voted against transferring $20 million from Americorps to veterans.
Voted for the $140 billion asbestos compensation bill.
Voted against requiring a uniform medical criteria to ensure asbestos claims were legitimate.
Voted to increase community development programs by $2 billion.
Spending and Entitlements
Voted to make Medicare part B premium subsidies an new entitlement.
Voted against paying off the debt ($5.6 trillion at the time) within 30 years.
Voted to give $18 billion to the IMF.
Voted to raid Social Security instead of using surpluses to pay down the debt.
Voted to allow states to impose health care mandates that are stricter than proposed new Federal mandates, but not weaker.
Voted twice for Federal mental health parity mandates in health insurance.
Voted against a allow consumers the option to purchase a plan outside the parity mandate.
Voted to increase Federal funding for teacher testing
Voted to increase spending for the Department of Education by $3.1 billion.
Voted against requiring courts to consider the impact of IDEA awards on a local school district.
Voted to allow the President to designate certain sites as interim nuclear waste storage sites in the event that he determines that Yucca Mountain is not a suitable site for a permanent waste repository. Those sites are as follows: the nuclear waste site in Hanford, Washington; the Savannah River Site in South Carolina; Barnwell County, South Carolina; and the Oak Ridge Reservation in Tennessee.
Voted to make fuel price gouging a Federal crime
They expect everyone to "relax and accept it" lest we pi$$ off the BIG TENT Rudy McRomney RINO "moderates".
In a highly unscientific pole the politically active Mormons I personally know (friends, neighbors, ward and stake members) are overwhelmingly for Santorum over Romney. The not so politically active for Romney of course.
I'm not sure if it's a "for Santorum" or "against Romney" support though. None of them like Gingrich AT ALL, citing both the 3 marriages and ethics violations. Ron Paul gets laughs.
As far as Nevada goes the secret is that in 2012, just like 2008, Romney would have won even if ALL the the Mormon vote was for 2nd place (Gingrich) though the difference would have been only 3% instead of 29%. (estimating based on a reported 1/4 of the vote being Mormon)
It is interesting that Santorum believes ID is in contention.
It's not just Santorum that believes ID is in contention. Idaho has 32 delegates up for grabs and is no longer winner take all. Idaho is proportional now so even a Paul will show better than Gingrich in Idaho.
Ug ruined this sentence in editing. Should have said "Idaho is proportional now so even a split would help Santorum. Paul will show better than Gingrich in Idaho."
Thanks for explicitly proving my point.
Yeah. I heard that from Howard Baker and George Bush supporters in '80. They were right. The mushy moderates in the party were given a back seat to Conservatism. A genuine disaster to the party in their eyes.
Comparing Santorum to Reagan is a flaming insult to Reagan. Rick is way more moderate, way less talented, way less persuasive and frankly just not worthy of shining Reagan’s shoes.
Assuming I was in the Howard Baker George Bush camp is just blithering. I was Reagan all the way. What you refuse to acknowledge is that Santorum IS a moderate beltway big government Republican who happens to emphasize social issues.
Here are Rick’s key campaign points from his last campaign:
Worked with John McCain on Campaign Finance
Supported more funding Headstart.
Supported record high federal spending public schools.
Senate leader in getting tax money for Bono’s crusades on AIDS
Senate leader in getting tax money for Bono’s third world crusade.
Sponsored legislation to force companies to pay benefits to laid off workers. (FAIR CARE ACT)
WROTE minimum wage increases (for his union buddies)
Supported legislation to get federal tax dollars for PA fire fighters (union pay out)
Helped secured tax money for clean coal plant in PA.
Ardent supporter of more tax funding for Chesapeake Bay.
Teamed up with Lieberman on spending tax money for low income families savings accounts matching.
Authored legislation “CARE ACT” - tax funding to “strengthen” non profits (a major crony industry)
Authored the Pet Animal Welfare Statute (bringing feds into the pet industry)
Introduced Gasoline Affordability Act - price fixing on “big oil.”
Leader in protecting more tax spending to pay heating bills for low income families.
Co Sponsor of GOVERNMENT HEALTH CARE legislation helping PA’s small biz provide health insurance.
Supported government oversight of private pensions “Pension Security and Transparency Act”
Supported “IDEA”, increasing federal funding for special needs children.
Joined with Chris Dodd on increased federal funding for Lyme Disease care.
Led to keep congress from cutting foodstamps.
yeah, just like Reagan /sarc
And lets not forget Newts DC lobbying gigs and recent books like Contract with the Earth. You slam Santorum for so called unforgivable assaults against Conservatism, yet not a word defending your guy. Santorum has discussed all these past transgressions and has made coherent explanations on them. Newts explanation on his past? It was all a mistake.
On Reagan's record, he raised taxes as Governor and signed pro Abortion legislation. If he were running today, I would hear nothing but that stuff all through these threads and how he was a RINO. You seem hell bent on slamming the only man standing between sanity and a Mittens nomination. Milt would be a guaranteed loss for the GOP. Santorum can and will win if nominated and judging by the traction he is getting in the swing states, that is becoming a greater possibility by the minute.
Thanks for explicitly providing nothing of substance, as usual.
First of all, it you want to have a substantive discussion there is one to be had on Newt’s conservatism. But don’t throw up a bunch of pictures. That’s childish and non substantive.
So, here Is the substantive and pertinent facts:
Newt’s dalliances are well known, well admitted, and rarely have anything to do with how he governed or campaigned. They were mostly thought experiments.
Newt has a more conservatie voting record than Santorum (by a small percentage) and he has a lot more conservative accomplishment than Santorum does (Contract w America, forcing clinton to the left, winning the house after 40 years, etc.).
Meanwhile, Rick’s liberal dalliances are mostly part of his voting record ANd how he campaigned. And he has run THIS campaign as if that is not the case. It is the case.
Rick has run as the wind driven snow conservative, and it’s simply not the case.
Them’s the pertinent facts. Do not be shocked if a major personality starts to backtrack and bring this to everyone’s attention in the next day or two.
The idiots think that if they can keep us on defense, nobody will look at Rick’s poor record and pitiful platform for themselves or question his own past and present misdeeds throughout the campaign, including his sanctimonious claim of being the “true conservative” because he has 7 kids, smiles in family photos, and looks good drenched in makeup.
They expect everyone to relax and accept it lest we elect someone who actually has a platform.
“Thems the pertinent facts. Do not be shocked if a major personality starts to backtrack and bring this to everyones attention in the next day or two.”
I hope you’re right. Major personalities though haven’t exactly been terribly reliable this cycle. They seem more interested in covering their own a**es than in anything else.
I know that there’s a back channel effort that is being made over next day or so to at least one - the big one - about this. The channels are good channels. The case to be made is a good one. How the big guy reacts is something I cannot predict for sure.
A picture is worth a thousand words and those three pretty well sum up that last 10 years of Newts political philosophy since leaving office. Running state wide in a blue state for two terms is far different that maintaining a red state house seat in a Conservative district. Newt could afford to have a higher ACU rating. Unfortunately, this race is going to be fought in swing states where some of Santorums past clinkers are not looked at as unacceptable like they are here on FR. I live in the ex home of Mack Trucks and Bethlehem Steel. Even GOP voters do not look at unions as a totally evil entity. Santorum speaks to those people. OH and MI are full of those voters as well. People are not seeing these votes you bring up as issues. What they do see as problems is TARP, Bailouts and Obamacare added to the overall over regulation by the Regime. Santorum has clean hands on those issues and a solid positive message on ending and removing these barriers to prosperity. BTW, I notice you like to play inside baseball predicting so and so is going to do this and that to shake up the race. Why don't you put your money where your mouth is and FReepmail me who said what and we will see exactly how omnipotent you are in 2 days time?
You are smug, self righteous, and hold others to higher standards than you hold yourself. Gee, I wonder who you could POSSIBLY be for? /sarc
I am not claiming ominipotence - I simply am fairly well connected and fairly deeply involved. I know that certain people will find out information that they are not aware of currently. What I do NOT know - and I admitted as much - is HOW they will react once they do. And I don’t know that.
Nothing to do with a seance or ESP at all.
And for the record, I am not going to give Rick a pass for being from Pennsylvania since the little snot refuses to give Perry a pass on the realities of immigration for being from Texas or Mitt a pass on governing Massachusetts or Newt a pass for dealing with a Democrat President.
Can’t have it both ways - unless you rock a sweater vest I guess.
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