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Here we go: Romney Super PAC rolls out first Michigan attack ad against Santorum (Watch Videos)
Hotair ^ | 02/15/2012 | AllahPundit

Posted on 02/15/2012 7:09:46 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Via BuzzFeed. As expected, they’re going hard after his fiscal heresies. I’m giving you Santorum’s new ad here too, which is noteworthy first because he touts his tea-party cred (ironic) and second because he’s now making electability a core component of his pitch. No other Not Romney has been in that position before — but the numbers do back him up, for now:

One thing that has remained constant in the ever changing GOP Presidential race is that Mitt Romney is the strongest candidate against Barack Obama…at least until now. PPP’s newest national poll finds Romney trailing Obama by 7 points at 49-42, while Santorum trails by only 5 points at 49-44

Santorum’s net favorability is 21 points better than Romney’s. Santorum’s at -7 (39/46), while Romney is at -28 (29/57). That’s mostly because Republicans like Santorum a lot better (+40 at 62/22 to Romney’s +2 at 43/41). But Santorum also does a good deal better with independents, coming in at -6 (40/46) to Romney’s -23 (32/55). In the head to heads Obama leads Romney by 9 with independents, but has only a 4 point advantage on Santorum with that group.

Santorum’s also viewed slightly more favorably by independents than Romney is, and his favorable rating among Republicans is now a point better than Mitt’s — thanks to a 13-point surge since last month among Republicans who lack a college degree. Gonna be awfully hard for Santorum to resist going full metal populist on Romney if those numbers hold or even improve. On the other hand:

I’m amazed that Mitt’s numbers are perfectly steady over the past month. I guess the loss in South Carolina to Newt, the big win in Florida, and then the kinda meaningless but kinda not sweep by Santorum in the midwest last week all canceled each other out. But this is what I meant in yesterday’s post about a potential Romney death spiral: What happens if/when these perceptions of his electability start to fade? If Santorum beats him on his own turf in Michigan, will undecideds and other tepid Romney supporters start to break toward Sweater Vest because they finally believe that he really might win? See why Michigan is so huge now?

Exit question: Will Romney challenge Santorum’s supposed electability on grounds that his social views are too far right? Don’t look now but there’s already a gender gap developing between them.

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To: Marguerite

Actually, Santorum only attacked Romney on the issues, he made fun of him for being so negative and attacking the other candidates with smears.


51 posted on 02/15/2012 2:35:01 PM PST by Eva
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To: Vigilanteman

Well put. All things considered, Santorum is the most reasonable choice.


52 posted on 02/15/2012 4:27:14 PM PST by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender! REMEMBER NEDA)
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To: SeekAndFind

I have the same disdain and distrust for Mitt Romney I have for Bill Clinton and 0bama. He is one rotten son of a b*tch.

When you look at how this campaign has unfolded, you can see Republican voters have been constantly seeking an alternative to Romney. Bachmann, Perry, Cain and Gingrich have all been the “front runner” at one point or another. Romney pretty much did in Perry, Cain and Gingrich with negative ads and Dirty Tricks.

Now that Republican voters have come to settle on Rick Santorum as the alternative, we knew Romney would come out with guns a blazing. But it won’t work this time. There is nowhere else for Conservatives to turn to other than back to Gingrich. Ricks is too clean to nail these things on him. But if Romney succeeds in smearing him, the Conservatives will just go back to Newt.

Newt is still my top choice. I can easily accept Santorum if he pulls it off. But I will NEVER accept Mitt Romney. I will not vote for him for any office. Not even dog catcher or the guy who cleans up road kill.


53 posted on 02/15/2012 5:16:16 PM PST by GR_Jr. (ABR / AB0 (Anybody but Romney, and then Anybody but 0bama))
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To: svcw; All
Scum though Romney may be, Santorum needs to be fully vetted.

He's a target rich environment. It is imperative voters know what they're buying into.

His electability argument is questionable at best. His own history in PA shows he's weak with women. Even in a very good reelection year or him (52% vs 46%), 2000, Santorum only tied his Dem opponent among women voters. In 2006, he lost 61% of women to his opponent.

54 posted on 02/15/2012 5:25:10 PM PST by newzjunkey (Santorum has baggage too. Demand an inspection!)
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To: b9

Late on threads today...Clever.

rS ad that is shown today on TV was clever and funny. That
s step three IIRC keep em funny and at the mental level of your audience.


55 posted on 02/15/2012 5:55:43 PM PST by hoosiermama (Stand with God and Sarah, the Gipper and Newt will be standing next to you.)
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To: b9

Late on threads today...Clever.

rS ad that is shown today on TV was clever and funny. That
s step three IIRC keep em funny and at the mental level of your audience.


56 posted on 02/15/2012 5:56:28 PM PST by hoosiermama (Stand with God and Sarah, the Gipper and Newt will be standing next to you.)
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To: b9

Late on threads today...Clever.

rS ad that is shown today on TV was clever and funny. That
s step three IIRC keep em funny and at the mental level of your audience.


57 posted on 02/15/2012 5:56:47 PM PST by hoosiermama (Stand with God and Sarah, the Gipper and Newt will be standing next to you.)
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To: b9

Late on threads today...Clever.

rS ad that is shown today on TV was clever and funny. That
is step three of Alinsky IIRC keep em funny and at the mental level of your audience.


58 posted on 02/15/2012 5:57:36 PM PST by hoosiermama (Stand with God and Sarah, the Gipper and Newt will be standing next to you.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Hopefully people will realize that this gender gap exists for Newt and exists for Santorum because most women are not conservative, even Republican women. It’s not because of Newt’s marriage history or his looks, it’s because of his political views. Chasing the women’s vote means you’ll have to pick a moderate/liberal candidate. I suggest writing the women who aren’t already voting for conservatives off and focusing on increasing male turnout at the polls. Nothing wrong with trying to play up stuff that women should care about like gas prices, food prices, etc., but that’s much less likely to be effective than trying to increase male turnout. College-educated women are trained and bred to be liberals. Few who succumbed to that bias are going to be able to shed it through logic alone.


59 posted on 02/15/2012 6:15:55 PM PST by JediJones (Newt-er Romney in 2012!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why does Mitt Romney need to run attacks ads on Rick Santorum when Newt’s people are already doping the dirty work attacking Rick ?


60 posted on 02/15/2012 9:10:25 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: NKP_Vet
“How do you debate a man who lies about his record”

Spot on NEWT!

Good post and great idea! That would be money very well spent. You should be on his campaign committee!

Too bad RS didn't use his money on the ads/commercials speaking the truth about mitt record instead of LIES about Newt. But that would go against the mitt/rick agenda.

61 posted on 02/15/2012 10:38:08 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Vigilanteman
Rick Santorum, OTOH, is genuinely likable.

That's as far as I got on your post since when one starts out wrong, they end up wrong.

Liars and deceivers are repulsive to me but, obviously, not to you or Mitt.

62 posted on 02/15/2012 11:34:00 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Vigilanteman

http://www.redstate.com/erick/2012/01/06/what-a-big-government-conservative-looks-like/


63 posted on 02/15/2012 11:38:31 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name
And to think he got in Rick Perry's face about giving $$ to illegals...(what a fraud) Immigration
Voted against increasing the number of immigration investigators
Voted to allow illegal immigrants to receive the earned income credit before becoming citizens
Voted to give SSI benefits to legal aliens.
Voted to give welfare benefits to naturalized citizens without regard to to the earnings of their sponsors.
Voted against hiring an additional 1,000 border patrol agents, paid for by reductions in state grants.
64 posted on 02/16/2012 5:24:50 AM PST by Christie at the beach
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To: Christie at the beach
It is such a shame people are voting for him to stop Romney, but they maybe giving us another flawed candidate. He was so into the Bush years of spending us off of the cliff and now gets rewarded. Sorry, I'll never vote for him. I pray he gets vetted before it's too late so voters have a chance to go back and keep Newt in this thing...I hope people vote Newt.
65 posted on 02/16/2012 5:30:36 AM PST by Christie at the beach
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To: Vigilanteman
At this point, negative advertising isn't only ineffective, it is suicidal....The only thing they have on him is some pork barrel and parochial votes when he was representing Pennsylvania, his 2004 endorsement of Arlen Specter and his 2006 re-election drubbing at the hands of the current #1 male village idiot in the U.S. Senate.

I disagree. I was never a Santorum fan, but after reading up on a couple of his quotes, particularly the one posted in post 17, I cannot support the man. I am a small government conservative who believes in less taxes and less spending, and, except on abortion, the government leaving us pretty much alone otherwise. Santorum clearly opposes that POV. You can rest assured that the Democrats will run that quote until the American people have it memorized.

If it comes down to Santorum and Romney in the primary, I will vote for neither. Romney could end up just being Obama-lite, and Santorum at the head of the ticket will mean we not only get clobbered at the top of the ticket, but likely get dragged down in Congress as well by people put off by quotes like the one in post 17.

66 posted on 02/16/2012 10:19:08 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
So one quote in one post is all it takes to send you scurrying to hide in the tall grass?

Yeah, I know, 100% perfection would be nice. But there is only one man who ever achieved it. And he was the Son of God or God in the flesh, depending on your theology.

You are a classic case of why conservatives get marginalized, even though our numbers are roughly equal (or even larger) than self-identified moderates and twice the number of self-identified liberals.

The 100%ers (or 92%ers if you are a Gingrich supporter) love to sit in their lofty towers and point out the imperfections of mere 88%ers like Rick Santorum. Meanwhile, the Al Qaida supporters, pink mafia, gimme more free stuff lobby and rich ultrasecularists, who would normally be killing each other and disagree on a whole lot more, dutifully turn out to pull the Democrat lever.

And we wonder why we ended up with a complete and total creep like ObaMao as POTUS . . .

67 posted on 02/16/2012 11:10:12 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Christie at the beach

“And to think he got in Rick Perry’s face about giving $$ to illegals...(what a fraud) Immigration
Voted against increasing the number of immigration investigators
Voted to allow illegal immigrants to receive the earned income credit before becoming citizens
Voted to give SSI benefits to legal aliens.
Voted to give welfare benefits to naturalized citizens without regard to to the earnings of their sponsors.
Voted against hiring an additional 1,000 border patrol agents, paid for by reductions in state grants.”

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I think if I see yet another anti-Santorum ad on Fox News Channel (I’ve seen NUMEROUS Romney ads such as these but have not yet seen a Santorum ad on the FNC) I’ll barf. And the same goes for the numerous “talking points” posts by pro Romney forces. I’ve largely limited my (not large) political donations this cycle to various conservative/tea party type candidates for nomination as Republican Senate candidate in their states (to get rid of RINOs such as Lugar) and have made only a single presidential race donation (to Gingrich’s campaign). I think with the mainstream media and the Republican establishments current jihad against Santorum, it’s now time for me to adopt him as “my” candidate. And I hope other conservatives have a similar awakening.

Talking points such as “Voted to give SSI benefits to legal aliens” mean Santorum supported and voted for the HUGELY successful 1995 Welfare Reform legislations which removed millions from the welfare rolls. That legislation restricted the length of time certain legal aliens could get SSI (they previously could get SSI but had no such restrictions). So this and the other “talking points” you posted were taken entirely out of context.

I supported Romney in 2008 against McCain but believe that I am now beginning to absolutely DESPISE him as I learn more about him and his allies and their absolutely despicable misleading tactics.


68 posted on 02/16/2012 1:10:00 PM PST by House Atreides
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To: Christie at the beach

RS is a fraud and it shows how so many can be deceived by what he says and never looking at what he has done and incapable of seeing his tactics.

I’m amazed as I watch evil drawing in those who are blinded - and they go cheering.


69 posted on 02/16/2012 1:36:06 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: House Atreides
the HUGELY successful 1995 Welfare Reform legislations which removed millions from the welfare rolls.

And that was the work of the visionary, the ONE that made clinton see the good of it - NEWT!!

I supported Romney in 2008 against McCain but believe that I am now beginning to absolutely DESPISE him as I learn more about him

How could you support a pro abortion, pro homo marriage, big gov't healthcare - NON PATRIOTIC candidate? But Rick actively campaigned for him while knowing everything about him!

as I learn more about him and his allies and their absolutely despicable misleading tactics.

And his ally is Rick!! among others and he is using misleading tactics, also. This is the GOP E! They can't win any other way.

Santorum, it’s now time for me to adopt him as “my” candidate. And I hope other conservatives have a similar awakening.

So you are making the same mistake again - I hope it is you who has an awakening! Tactics are still be used and unfortunately, so many cannot see it. It's is NOT on the up and up because Mitt could never win that way. That's where RS comes in.

70 posted on 02/16/2012 2:10:13 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Vigilanteman
So one quote in one post is all it takes to send you scurrying to hide in the tall grass?

No, I was familiar with Santorum's quote before this thread. My point was that the content of that quote of Santorum's is sufficiently objectionable to me to not support him. It is an overarching statement of philosophy that I think many conservatives would object to as well. Moreover, it does not appear to have been a misstatement or slip. It is perfectly consistent with similar opinions he has expressed in the past.

The 100%ers (or 92%ers if you are a Gingrich supporter) love to sit in their lofty towers and point out the imperfections of mere 88%ers like Rick Santorum.

You must be talking to someone else. I will vote for Santorum in the general election, but only because he isn't Obama. That's the same reason I'll pull the lever for Romney or Paul if one of them is the nominee. Gingrich is a slight improvement, but I'd be crossing my fingers for him as well.

Santorum isn't a 88% or even 77%'er for me. I dislike his articulated views on contraception. I think he is more a believer in government intervention in the economy than any of the other three remaining candidates, and I find his promise to attack Iran foolish. I think he comes across as sanctimonious, condescending, abrasive, and of middling intelligence. He's central casting's version of the Republican Democrats would love to run against.

And I'll bet that if he's the nominee, we'd be on the losing end of the biggest landslide since Reagan beat Mondale, and he'd scare enough swing voters to drag down the rest of the ticket as well.

71 posted on 02/16/2012 6:24:13 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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