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State Inspectors Searching Children’s Lunch Boxes: “This Isn’t China, Is It?”
John W. Pope Civitas Institute ^ | February 14, 2012 | Matt Willoughby

Posted on 02/15/2012 11:11:57 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

A mother in Hoke County complains her daughter was forced to eat a school lunch because a government inspector determined her home-made lunch did not meet nutrition requirements. In fact, all of the students in the NC Pre-K program classroom at West Hoke Elementary School in Raeford had to accept a school lunch in addition to their lunches brought from home.

NC Pre-K (before this year known as More at Four) is a state-funded education program designed to “enhance school readiness” for four year-olds.

The mother, who doesn’t wish to be identified at this time, says she made her daughter a lunch that contained a turkey and cheese sandwich, a banana, apple juice and potato chips. A state inspector assessing the pre-K program at the school said the girl also needed a vegetable, so the inspector ordered a full school lunch tray for her. While the four-year-old was still allowed to eat her home lunch, the girl was forced to take a helping of chicken nuggets, milk, a fruit and a vegetable to supplement her sack lunch.

The mother says the girl was so intimidated by the inspection process that she was too scared to eat all of her homemade lunch. The girl ate only the chicken nuggets provided to her by the school, so she still didn’t eat a vegetable.

The mother says her daughter doesn’t like vegetables and – like most four year olds – will only eat them at home under close supervision.

In an interview with the Civitas Institute the mother said “I can’t put vegetables in her lunchbox. I’m not a millionaire and I’m not going to put something in there that my daughter doesn’t eat and I’ve done gone round and round with the teacher about that and I’ve told her that. I put fruit in there every day because she is a fruit eater. Vegetables, let me take care of my business at home and at night and that’s when I see she’s eating vegetables. I either have to smash it or tell her if you don’t eat your vegetables you’re going to go to bed.”

The mother added, “It’s just a headache to keep arguing and fighting. I’ve even wrote a note to her teachers and said do not give my daughter anything else unless it comes out of her lunchbox and they are still going against me and putting a milk in front of her every day.

“Friday she came home and said ‘Mom, they give me vegetable soup and a milk,’” said the mother.

“So I went to the cafeteria to make sure she had no fee and it’s not being charged to her account yet,” she continued, ” but what concerned me was that I got a letter from the principal and it says students who do not bring a healthy lunch will be offered the missing portions which may result in a fee from the cafeteria. So if I don’t stay on top of her account on a weekly basis there’s that opportunity that charges could be put on her account and then if I let it go too far then it’s like I’m going to have a big battle.”

The principal of West Hoke Elementary, Jackie Samuels, says none of the children’s parents were asked to pay for the school food. While the parents may not have to pay, it was still an expense for the school to provide the extra food. A phone call to the Hoke County Schools Superintendent to inquire as to how much additional expense this would impose on the school was not returned.

The mother, who lives in Fayetteville, sent a statement to state Rep. G.L. Pridgen (R-Robeson) detailing her complaint. Pridgen says he was shocked to hear it. Pridgen has since learned this is a nationwide practice based on federal guidelines.

An assistant to Pridgen says the girl’s grandmother was also upset and asked, “This isn’t China, is it?”

The government inspector was from the Early Childhood Environment Rating Scale-Revised program at the FPG Child Development Institute at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. The program gives schools a grade based on standards that include USDA meal guidelines enforced by the N.C. Division of Early Childhood Development.

The nutrition standards for pre-K lunch require milk, two servings of fruit or vegetable, bread or grains and a meat or meat alternative. The school didn’t receive a high grade from the January assessment because the home-made lunches didn’t meet those guidelines. The mother points out the only thing on that list her daughter’s home lunch didn’t have was milk, so she doesn’t understand why the girl was given a complete school meal as a supplement.

The mother says her next step is to sit down with the principal and if nothing is done then she plans to go to the school board.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; children; dogooders; eatyourpeas; fayetteville; health; hokecounty; nannystate; nutrition; parents; preschool; publicschools
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1 posted on 02/15/2012 11:12:04 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Eric Blair 2084; SheLion; Gabz; Hank Kerchief; 383rr; libertarian27; traviskicks; bamahead; CSM; ...

Eat your peas, dammit!

Nanny State PING!


2 posted on 02/15/2012 11:13:46 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I don’t think China inspects children’s lunch boxes. How does this find itself into a headline for this thread? I don’t get the connection.


3 posted on 02/15/2012 11:15:47 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“This isn’t China, is it?”


Nope. They have all the money.

This is insane. It’s reason 1,105,514 you should home school your kids.

My wife, given her health issues pulled our kids from the public school when it earned it’s self a “fail” for the second year in a row. They transferred our kids from a passing school to this one when they closed the passing school.

I was all for it because both of my young kids are already programmed to yell at me for throwing a soda can in the trash, and moving my car (even in the driveway) with out my seat belt on.

neither could give me the correct answer to a simple math question however. After 2 weeks of home schooling guess what.. They can answer that simple math question.


4 posted on 02/15/2012 11:21:18 PM PST by cableguymn (Good thing I am a conservative. Otherwise I would have to support Mittens like Republicans do.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Obama police and nanny state storm troopers going through our children’s lunch.

Next, they will rummage through our home refrigerators.


5 posted on 02/15/2012 11:21:49 PM PST by Uncle Slayton
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To: gunsequalfreedom

Huh? You don’t get it? OK, well, I don’t know if China actually searches children’s lunches, but the point is the increasing control that our government is exercising over our citizenry is much like control that the Chinese government exercises/has exercised over its citizenry. Also, the child’s grandmother made the comment that this is not China is it.


6 posted on 02/15/2012 11:21:59 PM PST by bushwon ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

China doesn't have an Empress anymore. We do.

7 posted on 02/15/2012 11:22:07 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

Read the story. The reference to china is a question asked by the child’s grandmother.


8 posted on 02/15/2012 11:22:25 PM PST by cableguymn (Good thing I am a conservative. Otherwise I would have to support Mittens like Republicans do.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

9 posted on 02/15/2012 11:29:42 PM PST by McBuff
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To: Uncle Slayton

I would have told them to stick it! This is what we get when people vote for the wrong politicians too many times and I believe it will only get worse.


10 posted on 02/15/2012 11:33:00 PM PST by saintgermaine
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
"A helping of chicken nuggets."

Are they talking deep-fried chicken nuggets? And is that supposed to be more healthy than the turkey and cheese sandwich?

It can't be true, because nobody can be that stupid. Not even a gubmint official.

Right?

11 posted on 02/15/2012 11:34:43 PM PST by FlyVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sorry. That empress doesn’t impress.


12 posted on 02/15/2012 11:36:12 PM PST by chemicalman (The more support I see,the harder I want to work,and the more determined I am not to let folks down.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

How can you have any pudding if you don’t eat your meat..


13 posted on 02/15/2012 11:40:19 PM PST by TinCan
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

How can you have any pudding if you don’t eat your meat..


14 posted on 02/15/2012 11:40:48 PM PST by TinCan
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

If I had a kid I would send them to school with a pea shooter and orders to fire when ready.


15 posted on 02/15/2012 11:43:00 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
this sounds like just what Michelle Obama wants..

Government control of our kids...so glad mine are now adults.

ever wonder what the Robinson family fed their kids?? question for michelle...was your meals balanced? at the cost of food today, people can't afford to eat balanced..guess that is why the big boy wants everyone on food stamps so he can control...

16 posted on 02/15/2012 11:43:21 PM PST by haircutter
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To: TinCan

Pigs on the wing.


17 posted on 02/15/2012 11:43:21 PM PST by FlyVet
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I would be packing two lunches. Mine and the child's to eat together in the school cafeteria at lunch time. I would encourage other parents to pack lunches and say too Inspector Tyrant a common used southern word of “GIT”.
18 posted on 02/15/2012 11:44:07 PM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: TinCan
How can you have any pudding if you don’t eat your meat..

Hey teacher leave those kids alone. LOL.

19 posted on 02/15/2012 11:46:15 PM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I don’t know why anyone would allow their child to go to “government school” at age 4 when it is still optional. You can readily see that the system wants your child to think and act in a specific way even if that’s counter to your own belief system. I pitty the children. The parent should have known better. That moron “actor” who played Meathead on All in the Family (Rob Reiner) tried to put an initiative on the ballot here in California a couple of years ago that would have made it mandatory for 4 year olds to go to the government schools.


20 posted on 02/15/2012 11:49:24 PM PST by vette6387
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
The nutrition standards for pre-K lunch require milk, two servings of fruit or vegetable, bread or grains and a meat or meat alternative.

Here is what's funny. The stupid inspector is too ignorant and ill informed to know that a whole banana is TWO servings of fruit for a 4 year old and the standard is OR not AND so the home made lunch was compliant.

Hand her a carton of milk and she's good to go.

Mental midgets run our schools.

21 posted on 02/16/2012 12:09:10 AM PST by Valpal1
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To: gunsequalfreedom

Communism = big brother knows what’s best for you, your lunch fails our government standards, comrade citizen.


22 posted on 02/16/2012 12:11:56 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: cableguymn
My wife [...] pulled our kids from the public school when it earned it’s self a “fail” for the second year in a row.

A question about homeschooling: What should parents do who are "weak" in some specific part of the curriculum such as geography or, say, grammar? How does one compensate for that? What about the risk of not even recognizing one's weaknesses?

Regards,

23 posted on 02/16/2012 12:53:42 AM PST by alexander_busek
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To: McBuff
Great image!

"Our Dear Leader" should have a few large facial moles, though, to make the resemblence perfect.

Regards,

24 posted on 02/16/2012 12:56:21 AM PST by alexander_busek
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To: Valpal1
Here is what's funny. The stupid inspector is too ignorant and ill informed to know that a whole banana is TWO servings of fruit for a 4 year old and the standard is OR not AND so the home made lunch was compliant.

The stupid inspector couldn't work out whether a banana was a fruit or a vegetable, so decided it was neither.

25 posted on 02/16/2012 1:00:44 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (Society is well governed when the people obey the magistrates, and the magistrates obey the law)
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To: Valpal1

She didn’t need milk. The sandwich had cheese on it — a slice of cheese equals a serving of milk.


26 posted on 02/16/2012 1:25:38 AM PST by Kellis91789 (The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools.)
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To: alexander_busek

That is a very valid question. But then don’t expect any better from the public school. I still remember from about 20 years ago the AA teacher in the classroom next to our son’s having a poster up on the hallway wall with “goverment” on it. 2nd or 3rd grade.

We left public schools shortly thereafter.


27 posted on 02/16/2012 1:31:37 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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Come one! Come all! Step right up and git yer $1.50 gas RIGHT HERE!

28 posted on 02/16/2012 1:33:25 AM PST by Brad’s Gramma (PRAY for this country like your life depends on it....)
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To: cva66snipe

Great idea! Like I posted on this topic, NC is broke.. very broke and desperate. Federal dollars are attached to school meals, bus riders, etc. You can bet NC is going to extract every cent, and then some. Remember the governor there is Suspend elections for two years Perdue. They have gone after Amazon..and other crazy things. Raleigh is very close to DC, too close. She was even getting Federal unemployment figures ahead of other governors. Make no mistake, NC is just a collection agency now.


29 posted on 02/16/2012 2:14:38 AM PST by momincombatboots (Back to West by G-d Virginia.)
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To: momincombatboots
I hate too say it but some Tennessee state Republican lawmakers would likely try this as well. We have some pathetic Nanny Stater lawmakers and a Bloomberg anti-gun program GOP governor.
30 posted on 02/16/2012 2:25:04 AM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
“This isn’t China, is it?”

Hell no. In fact, no other country in the world is this stupid.

31 posted on 02/16/2012 2:26:19 AM PST by denydenydeny (The more a system is all about equality in theory the more it's an aristocracy in practice.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
"This isn't China, is it?"

"Naah, just Tupperware."

/rimshot>

How much do you want to bet it was one of Holder's people with an SEIU card doing the inspection; and that the nuggets were made by a big-time Dem campaign donor?

Many nuggets are made from less toothsome parts of the chicken; they are breaded (not whole wheat, either!), and are fried.

I'd stack the protein and fiber content of the sandwich (which has cheese for dairy, natch!) against *three* nuggets, any day.

If this had been my daughter, the inspector would have had their notebook, the nuggets, and a serving ladle protruding from their rectum the next day.

Cheers!

32 posted on 02/16/2012 2:35:51 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
These people affirmatively HIJACK your lunch and force you to eat ONLY what they supplied, in preference to your own express, selected, paid for independently with your own money, choice.

But remember...Sarah Palin wants to control your life by censoring books from the *public* library. (You can still buy them on your own.)

Verminous scum.

Where's the tar and feathers?

33 posted on 02/16/2012 2:38:35 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Federal dollars are attached to school meals, bus riders, etc.

That's what it's about--federal subsidies. If your US-born child happens to speak a second language at home because his mother is foreign born, you wouldn't believe how hard they try to get him into ESL (English as a Second Language)--even when English is his first language! And being stuck in ESL with the illegals' kids kills advanced placement opportunities.

34 posted on 02/16/2012 2:41:17 AM PST by mikey_hates_everything
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To: Secret Agent Man
Communism = big brother knows what’s best for you, your lunch fails our government standards, comrade citizen.

OK, I get that but China does not inspect children's lunch boxes to see what food their parents sent them to school with. I think in China parents are free to send their children to school with whatever food they want them to have for lunch. Maybe I am wrong on that.

35 posted on 02/16/2012 3:21:16 AM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: bushwon; cableguymn

OK, I get it now, the grandmother said it. Well, she ought to be an authority. Well, maybe she is not. She did not have the authority to pack the child’s lunch. Seems only the authorites in the U.S. have that authority and in China they can eat whatever they darn well please and probably do eat just about anything.

Now there is a thought for you, imagine if the parents had sent their child to school with unshelled shrimp or black snails.


36 posted on 02/16/2012 3:26:29 AM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: saintgermaine
I would have told them to stick it!

Um... OK.

Then they would have called the cop assigned to the school, who would have told you to shut up. And if you continue to speak, you are then in contempt of cop.

Expect to be tazed, beaten, kicked, and pepper sprayed into "compliance" before being locked up for "interfering with a government official in the performance of his duties", or something similar.

Remember folks, every law they pass, and every regulation that they create (without going through the hassle of making it a law), is ultimately enforceable at the point of a cop's gun, and they WILL enforce them (even the B. S. ones) because they are "Doing their job".

I frequent a gun website that has a LOT of cops on it. I read it every day. It is getting scary.

37 posted on 02/16/2012 3:29:49 AM PST by PalmettoMason (South Carolinians need to start choosing a primary challenger to Nikki Haley NOW!!!!!!!)
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To: bushwon; cableguymn

OK, I get it now, the grandmother said it. Well, she ought to be an authority. Well, maybe she is not. She did not have the authority to pack the child’s lunch. Seems only the authorites in the U.S. have that authority and in China they can eat whatever they darn well please and probably do eat just about anything.

Now there is a thought for you, imagine if the parents had sent their child to school with unshelled shrimp or black snails.


38 posted on 02/16/2012 3:35:39 AM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I wonder what type of degree you need to be a food inspector in NC. Are they part of the SEIU the amalgamated food inspectors union?


39 posted on 02/16/2012 3:35:45 AM PST by shoff (Vote Democratic it beats thinking!)
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To: cva66snipe

...and if that “inspector” doesn’t “git”.....grab him or her by the ear, twist firmly, and “escort” them out of the building with a swift kick in the ass on the way out.

Yes, I’m perfectly serious.


40 posted on 02/16/2012 3:40:14 AM PST by RightOnline
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To: FlyVet
And is that supposed to be more healthy than the turkey and cheese sandwich? It can't be true, because nobody can be that stupid.

Yabbut .... It's hard to 'medicate' the little nippers if you don't put it in their food...

41 posted on 02/16/2012 3:42:53 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Her kid goes to West Hoke (Hoke Cty) but she lives in Fayetteville (Cumberland Cty)?

Fayetteville does have a few addresses that go over the county line but they go to the eastern county schools.

And she contacted the Robeson Cty Rep?


42 posted on 02/16/2012 3:47:15 AM PST by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“This Isn’t China, Is It?”

No, China is abandoning socialism.

I suppose only the US can still afford socialism and all its delusions.

For now.


43 posted on 02/16/2012 3:48:00 AM PST by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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To: shoff

Why do we allow stuff like this to even exist?

“The government inspector was from the Early Childhood Environment Rating Scale-Revised program at the FPG Child Development Institute at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. The program gives schools a grade based on standards that include USDA meal guidelines enforced by the N.C. Division of Early Childhood Development.”


44 posted on 02/16/2012 3:58:16 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We should all encourage the lefty sycophants to put their money where their mouth is: following Michele’s lead, let’s pass a law that requires that food stamps can only be used for “healthy” foods. That oughta go over well.


45 posted on 02/16/2012 4:02:30 AM PST by Mr. Dough (Who was the greater military man, General Tso or Col. Sanders?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
...Early Childhood Environment Rating Scale-Revised program at the FPG Child Development Institute at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.

Just wow.....how do you fit all that on a business card ?

46 posted on 02/16/2012 4:22:16 AM PST by Mopp4
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To: PalmettoMason

Then next day 20 parents show up and demand they stop.

When do you stand and FIGHT?

Or do you? Do we keep clinging to the notions that elections are the answer? I am thinking not: they obviously do not care about elections.
In NC, they only care about the addiction to federal dollars, even tho the elections went the other way in 08 For 2012, dumblecrats are deciding to spend more time with the family in droves.

Civil disobedience and uncivil discourse...I think its come to that.
It make take a few tazings over stupid stuff like this to force them to stop.


47 posted on 02/16/2012 4:24:06 AM PST by Adder (Da bro has GOT to go!)
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To: saintgermaine

The problem is that this was Preschool and kids of this age are easily intimidated by Authority Figures; especially when their parents are’nt present.


48 posted on 02/16/2012 4:37:42 AM PST by catman67
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Did the inspector have a warrant to search that lunch bag? Sounds like a nice civil liberties suit.


49 posted on 02/16/2012 4:52:23 AM PST by fruser1
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To: Adder

Civil disobedience and uncivil discourse...I think its come to that.


Just wait until after the upcoming presidential election when the GOP snatches defeat out of the jaws of victory by insuring Romney runs against Obama.

I will not be long after that, as we lose an even greater amount of freedom that what you state will become absolute truth.


50 posted on 02/16/2012 4:58:45 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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