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Gingrich meets eligibility attorney [Encourages Taitz to hound Obama for actual birth certificate]
WND ^ | February 16, 2012 | WND

Posted on 02/16/2012 3:38:55 AM PST by RobinMasters

In a Southern California campaign appearance, presidential hopeful Newt Gingrich encouraged California attorney Orly Taitz to continue her campaign to question Barack Obama’s constitutional eligibility to hold office.

Taitz, who has filed several lawsuits aimed at securing Obama’s certified birth certificate and introducing evidence of his ineligibility for office, rose to her feet to address Gingrich in Pasadena. She suggested his lagging campaign could only be lifted by raising the issue publicly.

“It could help your campaign like it did Donald Trump,” Taitz said.

Gingrich responded by saying Taitz was better equipped for the role.

“That’s a project you should pursue,” he said.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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1 posted on 02/16/2012 3:38:58 AM PST by RobinMasters
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To: RobinMasters
Gingrich responded by saying Taitz was better equipped for the role.

Sounds like more Gingrich manipulation to me.
2 posted on 02/16/2012 3:43:19 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: RobinMasters

What the former Speaker meant to say is...

“Well gee, that’s a hot potato that I don’t want to hold since it could burn me, even though the potato would taste great. Instead, you go ahead and I’ll cheerlead from the sidelines. Good luck!”


3 posted on 02/16/2012 3:44:15 AM PST by RightOnline
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To: RobinMasters
Why stop your smearing there?

""That's a project you should pursue," Gingrich responded. Gingrich went on to say that with ongoing economic issues and other mismanagement he saw in the president's agenda, he had "enough issues to debate Obama about."

4 posted on 02/16/2012 3:49:31 AM PST by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: RobinMasters
I got an e-mail the other day that said the ZERO BC can't be true.
It says his father was listed as African. Back then blacks were listed as Negro. He was listed as being born in Kenya. Kenya did not exist in 1961. Kenya was not formed until 1963.
There were many other discrepancies.
I am now a BIRTHER. . . . . .
5 posted on 02/16/2012 3:57:34 AM PST by DeaconRed (What is worse? Bad men doing bad things or good men doing nothing.)
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To: Voter#537
I got an e-mail the other day that said the ZERO BC can't be true.

So after all this time, all it takes is an e-mail and you're convinced?
6 posted on 02/16/2012 4:06:23 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: RobinMasters

Gingrich answered correctly that he’s not in a position to question Obama’s eligibility. He already has his hands full right now fighting the big main stream media and who will demonize anyone looking into Obama’s hidden BS past. When you run as a Conservative anti-establishment candidate for national office, you not only have to take on the Dems, you have to take on their omnipotent press.


7 posted on 02/16/2012 4:07:14 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: RobinMasters

Not this again! The guy has been president for almost 4 years, give it a rest


8 posted on 02/16/2012 4:13:46 AM PST by The_Freemason
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To: Voter#537

I have been a birther all along, but we are maligned and impugned as kooks, so the powers that be will tell you to forget it.

Everything about the emasculation of Obumbo is full of holes,
but we are told to shut up and move on.
Turning the USA into the USSA is far more important, I guess.


9 posted on 02/16/2012 4:17:11 AM PST by AlexW
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To: The_Freemason

“Not this again! The guy has been president for almost 4 years, give it a rest”
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Newbies like you are the reason that the USA has gone to H.
You do not belong here....Go back to DU.


10 posted on 02/16/2012 4:21:24 AM PST by AlexW
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To: cripplecreek
"So after all this time, all it takes is an e-mail and you're convinced?"

YEP

12 posted on 02/16/2012 4:33:18 AM PST by DeaconRed (What is worse? Bad men doing bad things or good men doing nothing.)
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To: The_Freemason

“Give it a rest” (?) We will give it a rest, when the issue is resolved! You see, there is this annoying thing called the Constitution.


13 posted on 02/16/2012 4:35:31 AM PST by Shane (When Injustice Becomes Law, RESISTANCE Becomes DUTY.----T.Jefferson)
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To: AlexW

Very mature.


14 posted on 02/16/2012 4:36:30 AM PST by The_Freemason
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To: The_Freemason

My friend, you are correct that this is going nowhere. But there is NO EVIDENCE of where he was born. NONE. Fact.

All purported evidence that has been produced is clearly “conjured”. Bogus. Phoney. Fraudulent.

If there were not a real problem, do you really think this would still be talked about. Even by the fringe.

It is not as simple as a different name on his actual birth record (if one exists). It is not as simple as some have suggested that there was no father listed on the COLB. (I do not believe that BHO, Sr. was actually his father)

Nothing about his “story” of his history will pass the smell test.

We have been hoodwinked, by a group who intends to destroy the U.S.


15 posted on 02/16/2012 4:43:36 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: F15Eagle

“Other O excusers will show up. Just watch.”
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Yes, but how many have been here for less then six months?

I have no problem with newbies expressing their opinions, but some should remember the wise saying...
Better to be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.


16 posted on 02/16/2012 4:43:50 AM PST by AlexW
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To: The_Freemason

Very mature
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Yes, well I have been here for 13 years, and you have been here less the six months.
My maturity trumps yours.


17 posted on 02/16/2012 4:49:01 AM PST by AlexW
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To: Texas Fossil

“We have been hoodwinked, by a group who intends to destroy the U.S.”
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AMEN


19 posted on 02/16/2012 4:52:19 AM PST by AlexW
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To: RobinMasters

Very interesting. Shows Newt is not afraid to handle a hot potato. The other two wouldn’t dare take such a risk.


20 posted on 02/16/2012 5:09:26 AM PST by McGruff (Think in bold colors not pale pastels.)
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To: The_Freemason

Not this again! The guy has been president for almost 4 years, give it a rest.......................
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........................... sooooooo - if I rob a forge a check and get by with it for four years I am no longer in violation of any law and shouldn’t be prosecuted????


21 posted on 02/16/2012 5:34:01 AM PST by techrules2002
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To: Texas Fossil
If there were not a real problem, do you really think this would still be talked about.

There are probably still vastly more Truthers than Birthers. They, too, have websites, forums, countless YouTube videos, silly movies, even hundreds of scientists who absolutely believe the government either allowed 9-11 to happen or made it happen. So I ask you in regards to Truther conspiracy theories, "If there were not a real problem, do you really think this would still be talked about?"

Even by the fringe.

Goofy conspiracy theories exist all over and some of even the most bizarre ones have a large following. Because something is still talked about doesn't mean it's not a batcrap insane idea.

There are still people who don't think we went to the moon - lots of them. Because people are still taking about it, does that make you any more inclined to buy into such nonsense?

Anytime we get a new president, we have loads of wackadoodle conspiracy theories that either follow or are generated. With Bush we got "truther" crap, wierd PNAC theories, Carlyle conspiracies (or was that his Dad), Haliburton conspiracies, etc, etc. With Clinton we had death lists, secret drug running operations, etc, etc. With Obama, we've had the Birther conspiracy folks. With our next President we will most certainly end up with another few loony ideas capturing the hearts of conspiracy theorists.

Birther stuff will never go anywhere. Obama will never be removed from any ballot, no court will rule him ineligible, no series candidate for office will ever touch this stuff, and when Obama finally goes away, most of the energy behind the birther stuff will just fade away.

22 posted on 02/16/2012 5:54:34 AM PST by Longbow1969
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To: AlexW

True!!!


23 posted on 02/16/2012 6:00:30 AM PST by Captain PJ
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To: Longbow1969

This is not about Truthers or Birthers.

I am neither.

This is about the “Big Lie’ and it exists.

Obama was/is/shall always be a Liar, Fraud and Traitor.

He fully intended from day 1 to destroy the U.S.

Do you doubt that?


24 posted on 02/16/2012 6:00:32 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: The_Freemason

Yea - you are right.

I mean really, why should *anyone* spend a moment of time investigating or challenging Obama’s qualifications to run for or hold the Office of the President of the United States of America.

He produced a PDF on the WH website that satisfies all the experts that is is a genuine straight forward scan of a certified copy, right?

Didn’t he present that paper copy in court as evidence of his Hawaiian birth?

Wasn’t his father a US citizen at the time of BHO II’s birth?

Isn’t the definition of ‘Natural Born Citizen’ clearly settled law without conflicting opinion?

Hasn’t the press consistently called his birthplace Kapiolani hospital? (never Kenya or Queens hospital in HI)

Hasn’t Obama grown up and spent his youth in the USA?

Obama was never adopted by an Indonesian, right?

Obama never travelled to places that were restricted for US citizen travel by the State Department, right?

Obama never claimed admission or favorable tuition in US colleges as a foreign student. He showed that with his transcripts, right?

You are SOOOOOO right, this is a complete waste of time, thanks for letting us know.


25 posted on 02/16/2012 7:12:07 AM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Triple

Obama’s college records will show he commited FRAUD in college by claiming to be an foriegn student to get a sweatheart deal on tuition and federal aid.

Here is the catch-22, if they admit he is not a NBC the college fraud goes away, but the presidency is invalid. If they stick to the story of his being a Natural Born Citizen then they cannot explain his college records...

Birthers attacks from the whole “he is not a citizen”

Gingrich should call the left’s bluff and attack “from the other side” of the catch-22 situation the president put himself in.


26 posted on 02/16/2012 7:58:20 AM PST by GraceG
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To: RobinMasters
Encourages Orly Taitz to hound Obama for actual birth certificate

That's one way of looking at it. It sounded to me like he was blowing her off.

27 posted on 02/16/2012 8:49:26 AM PST by Kleon
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To: RightOnline

Yes, it sounds like a polite brush-off by Newt to me also.


29 posted on 02/16/2012 10:02:04 AM PST by cvq3842
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To: F15Eagle

Thanks

I get a chuckle out of the crowd that says “nothing to see here, why waste your time,” and the ones that say “looking into this benefits Obama, so stop.”

Strange how so many of them post on these eligibility threads, isn’t it?
(ok, not really)

Conservative impostors have been coming to FR since its beginning to try to shape the conversation and thwart conservative efforts.

(Howdy to all you Fogbow members)


30 posted on 02/16/2012 11:07:03 AM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Longbow1969
Goofy conspiracy theories exist all over and some of even the most bizarre ones have a large following. Because something is still talked about doesn't mean it's not a batcrap insane idea.

Noticing that Obama hasn't shown anything which conclusively establishes his 14th amendment citizenship is not goofy, and it is not a conspiracy. Nor is it goofy to notice that the CORRECT meaning of "natural born citizen" is someone born with no other allegiances.

Obama inherits Kenyan Allegiance and Property from his Father, and is therefore in violation of the meaning and intent of Article II's "natural citizen" REQUIREMENT.

Do you know what is goofy? That someone would persist in showing up on these threads after having been shown that they are wrong, and continue to question OTHER PEOPLE'S intelligence for noticing a rat.

No doubt your answer is "What rat?"

Birther stuff will never go anywhere. Obama will never be removed from any ballot, no court will rule him ineligible, no series candidate for office will ever touch this stuff, and when Obama finally goes away, most of the energy behind the birther stuff will just fade away.

Maybe. I for one will teach my children that he was not a legitimate President, and that under no circumstances should anything he ever did be respected. His name needs to go down in the History books with an asterisk beside it designating him as illegitimate.

He was likely born as an illegitimate bastard (certainly conceived out of wedlock) and he has governed as an illegitimate bastard. The only thing worse are those who make excuses for him.

31 posted on 02/16/2012 2:39:42 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Kleon
That's one way of looking at it. It sounded to me like he was blowing her off.

I would sort of agree with that assessment. He is attempting to not alienate her supporters while indicating that he won't have anything to do with the issue. Standard Political tactics.

32 posted on 02/16/2012 2:42:50 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Voter#537

What if the E-Mail is bure BS?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2845217/posts


33 posted on 02/16/2012 3:55:25 PM PST by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: AlexW
Newbies who either parrot Birther talking points or flat out make new Birther stuff up seem to be pretty welcome though.
34 posted on 02/16/2012 3:59:16 PM PST by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: Longbow1969
The following is not a conspiracy:

Fact: Obama has never proven with certifiable evidence that he is a natural born citizen.

Fact: Obama has spent hundreds of thousands ( millions?) of dollars of his own and taxpayer dollars to prevent the release of common documents that ordinary Americans provide for many personal and government reasons.

Fact: A **real** American would be HONORED to immediately prove their natural born citizenship and would be especially pleased to do so for a member of the military!!!!

Fact: It would have been very easy for Obama to have provided a clean and certifiable copy of his birth certificate. Instead he posted a likely clumsly and crudely made forgery.

Fact: Article 2 Section 1 of the Constitution is not a “technicality”.

And....You don't smell a rotting rat here? Really?

35 posted on 02/16/2012 4:23:30 PM PST by wintertime (Reforming a government K-12 school is like reforming an abortion center.)
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To: wintertime
A **real** American would be HONORED to immediately prove their natural born citizenship

Have you put this to the test? How many "real American" politicians have provided their long-form birth certificates to you?

36 posted on 02/16/2012 5:28:00 PM PST by Kleon
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To: Texas Fossil; All

Obama’s Eligibility Diversion

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/02/obamas_eligibility_diversion.html


37 posted on 02/16/2012 5:44:37 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: El Sordo

And some oldtimers who parrot fogbow and media matters talking points are just as welcome...fair and balanced.


38 posted on 02/16/2012 5:46:32 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: wintertime

Just show me those passports and school financial records. That should clear it up pretty damn fast.


39 posted on 02/16/2012 5:53:25 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: DiogenesLamp; Longbow1969
"What rat?"

Nope. No rats around here . . .

/s

40 posted on 02/16/2012 5:55:07 PM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Thanks for the link.

Spot on.


41 posted on 02/16/2012 5:56:45 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: The_Freemason

It’s not like we’re accusing him of being a... free mason.


42 posted on 02/16/2012 5:57:41 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Longbow1969; Texas Fossil
"silly; goofy; bizarre; batcrap insane; nonsense; wackdoodle; loony"

Sorry, but I don't believe that any of these pejoratives describes the right of the citizenry to be concerned that they be indubitably assured of the constitutional eligibility of a person who aspires to wield the presidential levers of power. The fact that you're okay with the fact that "Obama" has not incontrovertibly done so says quite a bit about you.

Rule 5: Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. It’s hard to counterattack ridicule, and it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage.

When you next see Saul, give him my regards.

43 posted on 02/16/2012 6:34:20 PM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: Voter#537

trust me, even the people who mock and ridicule the eligibility questioners - including obama, nancy pelosi and the whole democrat establishment - are birthers. Anyone with more than a 3 year old’s ability to reason, have questions about Obama’s history.

I doubt there are very many people in the nation who truly believe obama, but you have tons who don’t care and will die for him. It is a cult.


44 posted on 02/16/2012 7:28:33 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome; Longbow1969; Texas Fossil

The strongest proof that he is an incompetent leader is that he waited 3 years to release the BC - real or not.

If he had just put the document out before or just after the election, the issue would never had become as big as it got and it would not have aided in dividing our nation almost as badly as it was prior to the Civil War.

He is a bad man, and his associates are bad people.


45 posted on 02/16/2012 7:32:22 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: The_Freemason
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46 posted on 02/16/2012 7:40:45 PM PST by IrishPennant (Did Adam and Eve have belly-buttons? I'm jes' askin'...)
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To: Kleon
Have you put this to the test?
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There has been no need since their status was **self evident**! Armies of neighbors, relatives, and friends stood ready to testify of the origins of previous presidents.

Citizens have asked. Military officers have asked, and Obama has spent hundred of thousands of dollars ( his own and tax dollars) to hide his records. A **REAL** natural born American would not do that.

A **REAL** American would be HONORED to promptly prove with the best evidence that they were natural born citizens. They would be especially pleased to do this for a member of the military.

47 posted on 02/16/2012 8:02:35 PM PST by wintertime (Reforming a government K-12 school is like reforming an abortion center.)
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To: FreeAtlanta

The strongest proof that he is an incompetent leader is that he waited 3 years to release the BC - real or not.
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Think of all the thousands of dollars wasted having **government** tax paid attorneys fight the release of a birth certificate.

What REAL natural born American citizen would do that?


48 posted on 02/16/2012 8:05:32 PM PST by wintertime (Reforming a government K-12 school is like reforming an abortion center.)
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To: IrishPennant

Freakin’ Jarheads. God bless ya!


49 posted on 02/16/2012 8:18:48 PM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: El Sordo

Sordo:”Newbies who either parrot Birther talking points or flat out make new Birther stuff up seem to be pretty welcome though.”

We can excuse Newbie’s because most assuredly they haven’t seen all the evidence that has been presented here at FR over the past 4 years. It is the old timers like you that we can’t quite explain - especially those who have closely followed these threads for some time.

Why do you still remain unconvinced of Obama’s consistent obscuring of his past and his insistent attacks on those who ask legitimate questions??

Perhaps I may agree with you at times that many in our government just don’t really want to know the truth and hence, are negligent to expose it. But aren’t you genuinely curious? Wouldn’t you like to know the facts about our President’s past and what has formed his opinions and world view???


50 posted on 02/16/2012 8:22:55 PM PST by visually_augmented (I was blind, but now I see)
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