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Safeway tries to enforce service animal rule
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 2/16/12 | C.W. Nevius

Posted on 02/16/2012 8:07:59 AM PST by SmithL

There are Labradoodles in the produce aisle. There's a little Australian terrier sniffing the potato chips. Yes, there are dogs in the supermarket, particularly in San Francisco.

And God help us, one of these days there may be a miniature pony in the checkout line. Seriously.

And it's all perfectly legal. Or imperfectly legal, depending on whom you ask.

Technically, these are service animals. But the technicality is starting to drive customers, supermarket owners and animal control officials around the bend.

"This service animal thing is getting a little out of control," said Vicky Guldbech, captain of San Francisco's Department of Animal Care and Control. "Even my staff is saying, 'Wait a minute, that's a service animal?' "

Let's face it, everything from an iguana to a chicken has been called a service animal in the city.

But enough is enough, and some Safeway stores started posting notices saying that dog owners who fraudulently claim their dog is a service animal are subject to California Penal Code 365.7, which could result in "imprisonment in the county jail" and/or a fine that could run to $1,000.

According to the Americans with Disabilities Act, when a supermarket operator finds a dog in his store he can only ask two questions:

"Is the dog a service animal required because of a disability? What work or task has the dog been trained to perform?"

So, says Susan Houghton, director of public affairs for Safeway in Northern California, if the owner says the dog is required and it is needed for "physical, sensory, psychological or mental" assistance, the dog stays.

"You can't say, 'Prove it,' " Houghton says. "If the customer learns to answer the questions in the right way there is nothing we can do."

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; US: California
KEYWORDS: safeway; sanfranciscovalues; serviceanimal; victims

Nathan Dern walks at a Safeway with his dog, which he said is a service animal.

1 posted on 02/16/2012 8:08:04 AM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL
"If the customer learns to answer the questions in the right way there is nothing we can do."

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the SFGate just help everybody learn to answer the questions in the right way?

2 posted on 02/16/2012 8:11:52 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: SmithL
the owner says the dog is required and it is needed for "physical, sensory, psychological or mental" assistance

Just how many San Franciscans get mental assistance from a dog?

Never mind, don't answer that.

3 posted on 02/16/2012 8:14:14 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: SmithL
"Is the dog a service animal required because of a disability?

"Yes sir. The dog picks out munchies for me when I'm too stoned on medical marijuana to do it myself."

4 posted on 02/16/2012 8:17:08 AM PST by Right Brother
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To: SmithL
Service elephants for Alzheimer's patients. Grandpa might forget thing, but his service elephant never will.
5 posted on 02/16/2012 8:19:55 AM PST by KarlInOhio (You only have three billion heartbeats in a lifetime.How many does the government claim as its own?)
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To: Izzy Dunne

People in San Francisco love their animals and pets don’t they?

The city is concerned about the declining number of families with children living there. The city has studied that problem, as it impacts the tax base, and the schools, and the vibe of neighborhoods, among other issues. But they cater to those who are childless, and pamper their pets instead.


6 posted on 02/16/2012 8:31:45 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Izzy Dunne

I’ve received “mental assistance” from my miniature schnauzer before. Everytime I’d drive by a BK or a McD’s, she’d start barking like crazy, reminding me to go through the drive-thru and get her a cheeseburger. And one for me too, of course.

You know, so I wouldn’t starve or anything.


7 posted on 02/16/2012 8:37:51 AM PST by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: SmithL

CLEAN UP ON AISLE 6 has a new meaning now =)


8 posted on 02/16/2012 8:43:59 AM PST by Patriot Babe
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

Lol!


9 posted on 02/16/2012 8:44:51 AM PST by rawhide
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

My dog provides entertainment, joy, love, exercise and protection...

She must be a service animal...

All I really have to do is throw the ball...


10 posted on 02/16/2012 8:45:25 AM PST by ltc8k6
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To: SmithL

San Francisco ... where they service animals.


11 posted on 02/16/2012 8:46:21 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Izzy Dunne

But dogs are Haram.....

Someone might get offended.


12 posted on 02/16/2012 8:47:14 AM PST by GraceG
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To: SmithL

Gross! Dog slobber on the other product surrounding the product he chooses.

13 posted on 02/16/2012 8:49:50 AM PST by rawhide
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To: SmithL

Just another instance of the fine citizens of San Francisco trying to push the envelope by twisting existing laws that were meant for seeing eye dogs. Perfectly understandable when you consider the high number of lib/commie lawyers in that town, and their potential clients who want to hit the lottery with a lawsuit. SF is a beautiful city geographically, but a complete hive of scum socially.


14 posted on 02/16/2012 8:51:22 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: SmithL

"Seeing Eye Horse"

15 posted on 02/16/2012 8:52:05 AM PST by rawhide
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To: SmithL
And God help us, one of these days there may be a miniature pony in the checkout line. Seriously.

If it weren't locked in my cell phone, I'd post a picture of exactly that, except that it was in a Books-A-Millon.

16 posted on 02/16/2012 8:53:40 AM PST by Quality_Not_Quantity (A half-truth masquerading as the whole truth becomes a complete untruth. (J.I. Packer)
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To: Izzy Dunne

“Just how many San Franciscans get mental assistance from a dog?”
Two months ago I was in the security line at McLaren in Las Vegas. There was a girl in front of me with a little dog strapped to her chest. I happen to like dogs and I commented on hers. She told me that the dog was a service animal. I asked her what service it provided, she told me “emotional support”.

Granted, she appeared to be one these harmless souls who are afraid of their own shadow, but it was a first for me.

Got me wondering.. I’d like to bring my dog with me on my next trip, I wonder if that “emotional support” reason would work for me as well?


17 posted on 02/16/2012 8:58:16 AM PST by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: Izzy Dunne
Just how many San Franciscans get mental assistance from a dog?

OK. We won't talk about dogs, but do you want to talk about gerbils?

18 posted on 02/16/2012 9:09:41 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Stormdog

It works. As the article stated, THE MAN is not allowed to hassle you about it.


19 posted on 02/16/2012 9:09:41 AM PST by Rio
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To: SmithL

Hmmmm...no mention of service gerbils. Did the kill them all?


20 posted on 02/16/2012 9:13:33 AM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~..... GO NEWT GO--itÂ’s about the survival of our country!!)
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To: SmithL

I am sure these pets are kept extremely clean/bathed.

I have been around folks in the supermarket who smell as if they haven’t bathed in a month.

I will take a wonderful pet any day over a human smelly dirt bag.

Oh by the way, these smelly dirt bags pee anywhere they want in public and otherwise.


21 posted on 02/16/2012 9:14:13 AM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: rawhide
Gross! Dog slobber on the other product surrounding the product he chooses

The woman is apparently able to hold the leash--she can't pick up the can and, if there's a cart behind her, give it to the dog to put it in there?

22 posted on 02/16/2012 9:18:59 AM PST by proud American in Canada
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To: rawhide

Gross! Dog slobber on the other product surrounding the product he chooses.”

On the contrary. He hasn’t spent his time picking his nose.


23 posted on 02/16/2012 9:20:07 AM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: SmithL

Hmmmm...no mention of service gerbils. Did the kill them all?


24 posted on 02/16/2012 9:21:02 AM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~..... GO NEWT GO--itÂ’s about the survival of our country!!)
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To: SmithL

Hmmmm...no mention of service gerbils. Did the kill them all?


25 posted on 02/16/2012 9:21:06 AM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~..... GO NEWT GO--itÂ’s about the survival of our country!!)
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To: Stormdog

“There was a girl in front of me with a little dog strapped to her chest.”

Those little dogs make for excellent airbag substitutes in case you fall or have a car accident.


26 posted on 02/16/2012 9:26:10 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: rawhide

“Seeing Eye Horse” I have a chewing mouth bulldog.


27 posted on 02/16/2012 9:36:05 AM PST by tumblindice (Whitey-American: Taxed Enough Already)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)



28 posted on 02/16/2012 9:39:53 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
On the contrary. He hasn’t spent his time picking his nose.

No, he was probably licking his privates.

29 posted on 02/16/2012 10:04:45 AM PST by rightly_dividing
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To: SmithL

So, you could have a bad tempered pit bull as long as it provided a service, for instance personal protection.


30 posted on 02/16/2012 10:24:20 AM PST by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: Stormdog

My 100 lb. Great Dane would provide far more emotional support.


31 posted on 02/16/2012 10:28:00 AM PST by libstripper
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To: GraceG
But dogs are Haram.....

I forget - does that mean "forbidden", or "delicious" ?

32 posted on 02/16/2012 10:31:18 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: SmithL

So, I guess a Muslim can bring his “service” goat along.


33 posted on 02/16/2012 10:43:04 AM PST by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: proud American in Canada

The ability to hold the leash does not mean she has the range of motion to reach or even grasp the can.

I’ve seen service animals in action and they are pretty dang awesome. The change from being in work and at rest is also quite remarkable to observe. A true service animal has an impressive amount of training.


34 posted on 02/16/2012 11:36:28 AM PST by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Now, your possum make a right good service animal. When I get to the checkout stand, I just put my possum Old Pete up on the counter and the checker run off screaming and I save my grocery money to buy more shine. Old Pete, he like his shine too, but then he can’t drive. But, boy can he sing.....sound just like Barry Marshamallow or whatever. Kinda short to be a good dancer, though he do try. The possum polka is a sight to behold.


35 posted on 02/16/2012 12:25:31 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: SmithL
Our PetSmart allows us to bring our dogs to the store. They have clean-up stations with doo-doo bags, sprays & paper towels to clean up after your dog.

The service dogs in our area do a great job visiting schools & nursing homes. Amazing that some schools teach the children to read by having them read to the dog - who sits patiently & listens.

The joy on the faces of the elderly patients in the nursing homes is something to see!! Some never have any visitors at all. They love to pet & talk to the dogs & the dogs give them lots of love in return.

Animals are a great comfort to humans. They are wonderful, loving companions without asking much in return.

36 posted on 02/16/2012 12:26:47 PM PST by LADY J (You never know how strong you are until being strong is the only choice you have. - Author Unknown)
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To: libstripper

“My 100 lb. Great Dane would provide far more emotional support.”

If you are going on a trip, your dog is big enough to carry the bags, thus providing physical as well as emotional support!


37 posted on 02/16/2012 1:36:36 PM PST by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: Stormdog

He’s only a year old and has a lot of growing left to do. His mommy is 120 lb. and his daddy is 150 lb. He and my 85 lb. Pitador eat about 12 cups of dog food per day and drink about 1 gallon of water in the same time. The Pitador also tries to push me out of bed every night. Neither is spoiled. Pray for me.


38 posted on 02/16/2012 2:20:44 PM PST by libstripper
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To: libstripper

I think that you’re going to need to get a part-time job just to feed them.

As far as the bed goes, do what my wife and I did when our border collie was hogging the whole thing... get a bigger bed.

She’s not spoiled either....the dog I mean..


39 posted on 02/16/2012 2:52:58 PM PST by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: Izzy Dunne
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the SFGate just help everybody learn to answer the questions in the right way?

Sharp this Izzy Dunne is....

40 posted on 02/16/2012 3:00:00 PM PST by Cyber Liberty ("If the past sits in judgment on the present, the future will be lost." --Winston Churchill)
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To: rawhide

Gross! Dog slobber

Did you know that there are bacteria in dog saliva
that prevent them from getting cavities...
So just remember to gargle with dog saliva
every night, your dentist will thank you.
Disclaimer: Some side effects include but are
not limited to, burying bones in yard, sniffing
butts, and wanting to roll in dead animals.

But think of those purdy teeth.


41 posted on 02/16/2012 3:04:11 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

LOL


42 posted on 02/16/2012 4:11:34 PM PST by windcliff
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To: Stormdog

We’re obviously both suffering the same problem: psychotic denial of a serious, possibly terminal, canophilia problem. The denial obviously makes the condition incurable.


43 posted on 02/16/2012 6:20:16 PM PST by libstripper
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To: libstripper

We’re doomed!!!!


44 posted on 02/16/2012 8:58:20 PM PST by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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