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Meet the ObamaCare Mandate Committee Think the contraception decision was bad? Wait until
wsj ^ | 2/16/12 | Scott Gottlieb

Posted on 02/16/2012 10:16:11 AM PST by Nachum

Offended by President Obama's decision to force health insurers to pay for contraception and surgical sterilization? It gets worse: In the future, thanks to ObamaCare, the government will issue such health edicts on a routine basis—and largely insulated from public view. This goes beyond contraception to cancer screenings, the use of common drugs like aspirin, and much more.

Under ObamaCare, a single committee—the United States Preventative Services Task Force—is empowered to evaluate preventive health services and decide which will be covered by health-insurance plans.

The task force already rates services with letter grades of "A" through "D" (or "I," if it has "insufficient evidence" to make a rating). But under ObamaCare, services rated "A" or "B"—such as colon cancer screening for adults aged 50-75—must be covered by health plans in full, without any co-pays. Many services that get "Cs" and "Ds"—such as screening for ovarian or testicular cancer—could get nixed from coverage entirely.

That's because mandating coverage for all the "A" and "B" services will be very costly. In 2000, the Congressional Budget Office estimated that the marginal cost of similar state insurance mandates was 5%-10% of total claims. Other estimates put the cost of mandates as high as 20% of premiums.

Health plans will inevitably choose to drop coverage for many services that don't get a passing grade from the task force and therefore aren't mandated. Insurance companies will need to conserve their premium money, which the government regulates, in order to spend it subsidizing those services that the task force requires them to cover in full.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bureaucrats; cancer; commiecare; commiecarechart; commiecaregraphic; contraceptionmandate; deathpanel; deathpanels; obamacare; obamacarechart; obamacaregraphic; screenings; waronfreedom
Full title: Meet the ObamaCare Mandate Committee Think the contraception decision was bad? Wait until bureaucrats start telling your insurer which cancer screenings to cover.
1 posted on 02/16/2012 10:16:22 AM PST by Nachum
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, Ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/


2 posted on 02/16/2012 10:17:55 AM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

I read this article this morning, and I was wondering if this is a second commission, different than the one that was set up under the stimulus bill, that Sarah Palin termed, the death panel? I remember that that commission had seventeen people and it was heavily weighted with minorities.


3 posted on 02/16/2012 10:26:02 AM PST by Eva
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To: Nachum
Meet the ObamaCare Mandate Committee

AKA "Death Panels"?

4 posted on 02/16/2012 10:27:03 AM PST by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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To: Nachum

As I recall. ObamaCare nixed unproven experimental procedures foe Cancer. Do you know what goes on at the Dana Farber Institute in Boston? Just that. And they’re little kids too.


5 posted on 02/16/2012 10:30:35 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Nachum
Here's a link to an article on the "Death Panel" Health Commission. Apparently, it is headed by Ezekiel Emanuel. Sound familiar?

Death Panel

6 posted on 02/16/2012 10:31:32 AM PST by Eva
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To: Eva

Try finding an Asian, Hispanic, Caucasian, or anyone of any ethnicity other than black in the employment ranks of Memphis utility companies, city government, schools, or other such agencies. It would be so simple to argue a case proving discimination in employment. But this is exactly what Samuel Jackson was talking about. It’s coming baby. If Obama gets his next term, it will be the 1940’s and the new jews are the middle class whites. The most vulnerable will be the ones about to retire and who will no longer be coughing up payroll taxes each week to the Obamanites. The days of that demographic are numbered.


7 posted on 02/16/2012 10:34:25 AM PST by blackdog (And justice for all.....(Offer not valid in all locations, and prices vary))
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To: grobdriver
Meet the ObamaCare Mandate Committee

AKA "Death Panels"?

If I'm ever forced into a position of needing to appear before one of these abominations, I promise you, it will be a death panel.

8 posted on 02/16/2012 10:34:39 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorists savages.)
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To: Nachum

“, the government will issue such health edicts on a routine basis...”

Open season, how long can I say it. Phony-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager


9 posted on 02/16/2012 10:36:34 AM PST by Varsity Flight (Phony-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: grobdriver

They will have the authority to order abortions.


10 posted on 02/16/2012 10:36:55 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
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To: USS Alaska
"If I'm ever forced into a position of needing to appear before one of these abominations,"

Oh, don't worry. You will never be afforded the opportunity to appear before the committee and make your case. The closest you will ever get to the committee will be a letter telling you your claim has been denied.

11 posted on 02/16/2012 10:39:19 AM PST by circlecity
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To: Eva
Some 80% of an individuals healthcare costs are captured from the age of birth to ten, and then over 65. So any government panel tasked with any reductions in expenditures means that the very young and the very old will be the well best to draw down on.

Morphine will flow like champagne fountains. I'd hate to think of the late night healthcare workers incentive packages might contain? Maybe a graveyard shift who's nickname becomes something more real?

12 posted on 02/16/2012 10:40:56 AM PST by blackdog (And justice for all.....(Offer not valid in all locations, and prices vary))
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To: Nachum

At the next point in this march to socialized medicine we will discover that many treatments and medicines will just not be available even if you pay for them. If the treatment isn’t covered, it won’t be offered because there will be insuficient demand or it will be forbidden by the government ( if the “poor” can’t get it why should the “rich”). Combined with the tort lawyers attacks on drug industry profits, our medical care will get much worse, very quickly.


13 posted on 02/16/2012 10:43:07 AM PST by JimSEA
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To: circlecity

I’m considering a legal name change to “Kwazia Infume” in order to better stack my odds before these healthcare review boards.


14 posted on 02/16/2012 10:43:38 AM PST by blackdog (And justice for all.....(Offer not valid in all locations, and prices vary))
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To: blackdog

It written right into Obamacare, the redistribution of health care to Blacks from the middle class Whites.

There are advisory boards built into it to oversee the distribution of health care funds to make sure that “traditionally underserved” communities get their “fair share” of health care funds and services. “Fair” is not defined.

It written into the bill that philanthropic organizations must turn over (or add more seats) 40% of the seats on their board of directors to people who represent the “underserved” communities, so that they can properly direct the funding.


15 posted on 02/16/2012 10:47:06 AM PST by Eva
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To: blackdog

I forgot to mention that included in the bill is also a directive to build jogging paths and other outdoor athletic facilities in the inner city communities, to encourage a more healthy life style.

I recently read that the left has a new redistribution term, something that they call, environmental justice. I guess that the jogging paths could be included under this term, as well as the beautification that they are claiming is necessary for a more healthy outlook. (around here, they are referring to Indian reservations).


16 posted on 02/16/2012 10:51:15 AM PST by Eva
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To: blackdog

Folks, the Collection-Agency is coming first, 17,000 new ones. From birth to passing. That’s the real plan.

Everyone but, The Exempt Ones, are written in to this slavery.

I repeat: Phony-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager


17 posted on 02/16/2012 10:56:37 AM PST by Varsity Flight (Phony-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: circlecity

In that case you track em down!


18 posted on 02/16/2012 11:14:33 AM PST by Renegade
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To: Nachum

Ok, why the HELL are we engaging in a debate on what is in Obama care? Don’t people get it? By engaging in a conversation about it, we are VALIDATING it’s existence and the fact it is going to run our lives in 2 years??

REPEAL THE ABOMINATION! Then we won’t HAVE to discuss what is in the horror!

Stop buying into this damn discussion! Instead, demand it’s full repeal!


19 posted on 02/16/2012 11:32:38 AM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: Nachum

Sounds like the time is coming when we will be forced to “Go Alinksy” on the members of this committee. Names, home addresses, personal phone numbers, etc. published all over the Internet.


20 posted on 02/16/2012 12:06:51 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Nachum

The dems are doing a good job of framing the discussion (focusing on birth control and preventive care) so that other serious problems in the law aren’t getting the attention they should.

For example, there are “shared decision making” grants going to NGOs to develop “decision aids” (propaganda tools) to influence the few decisions left to vulnerable patients. Who needs death panels when patients can be led to choose euthanasia?

http://www.nrlc.org/HealthCareRationing/SharedDecisionmaking.html

Should the patient choose treatment, Obamacare penalizes hospitals for readmitting patients even when the readmission is medically necessary or a result of noncompliance. The law creates a strong disincentive for physicians and hospitals to accept patients with multiple medical problems, those who are especially fragile, or conditions that typically involve multiple hospitalizations.

Whoever gets the Republican nomination would do well to bring out more of Obamacare’s flaws such as these. It isn’t just religious freedom. Or having electives like abortifacients redefined as preventive with forced subsidies. The candidate needs to show that Obamacare is designed to squelch the liberty of every citizen, not just those targeted for ridicule during an election season. I fear the Republican candidates are following a script the Dems put forth to distract from other problematic aspects of the law while whipping up their base.


21 posted on 02/16/2012 1:21:36 PM PST by JustMeMcGee
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To: Danae

REPEAL THE ABOMINATION! Then we won’t HAVE to discuss what is in the horror!


Exactly right!


22 posted on 02/16/2012 5:53:41 PM PST by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: USS Alaska
If I'm ever forced into a position of needing to appear before one of these abominations, I promise you, it will be a death panel.

Here's what I wrote in another thread if this ever comes about. We need to repeal this thing now.

I've posted this many times before but what if somebody is denied healthcare under Bammycare? People naturally have spouses, children, siblings, friends, parents, grandparents, etc. depending on the age of the one denied. I would hate to be a member of a death panel making such a decision to deny. I'd stay out of dark allies, look under my car before starting it, keep my eyes out for shadows, and jump at every noise I hear at night. Is that noise I hear at 2:30 AM the neighbor's cat or is it Grandpa Jones' grandson, which I denied care to his granddad, with a posse of his friends armed with baseball bats and a shotgun? How about blocking the road in front of me, an old lady in a 1967 Caddy. Did she break down or is she the wife of the man who I denied a hip replacement to, waiting for me where as I step out of my car to help, the last thing I hear is a .45 going off just before St. Peter appears. It's 10 PM, my kid is late in coming home and the phone rings. How about this, what if I denied care to a Tony Soprano?

I know under the insurance companies, there are cases of denial but in a lot of cases, you can get the doctor and hospital to get them to reverse their decision or just go ahead and let the family pay for it and/or go on a charity case. Not so with the government, if you are denied, there is very little redress at all. Ayn Rand put in in a long monologue where it boils down to this, "the more laws you create, the more criminals you make" and when you eliminate the process and route where one can make a challenge to make things right legally, that leaves only one other way, revenge and/or at least forced coercion via illegal means. This is a pandora's box to be sure, people will do anything for their loved ones and for survival.

I remember Quark's quote from DS9 (Star Trek) about us humans, "Let me tell you something about humans, nephew. They're a wonderful, friendly people as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people will become as nasty and as violent as the most blood-thirsty Klingon."

I don't feel comfortable in visioning this scenario, but if we keep going on the present track, it will happen.

23 posted on 02/16/2012 11:22:59 PM PST by Nowhere Man (Holodeck Computer: End Obama Administration simulation program, NOW!!!!)
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To: JimSEA
At the next point in this march to socialized medicine we will discover that many treatments and medicines will just not be available even if you pay for them. If the treatment isn’t covered, it won’t be offered because there will be insuficient demand or it will be forbidden by the government ( if the “poor” can’t get it why should the “rich”). Combined with the tort lawyers attacks on drug industry profits, our medical care will get much worse, very quickly.

I do forsee possible medical tourism to places like Mexico, Costa Rica, Grenada, Domincian Republic, India, Thailand, Brazil, etc., if this is not stopped. The downside is that it may not be affordable to some people, except maybe Mexico, you can drive there. Hmmm, an interesting brainstorming idea I just had, you might see foreign sources for insurance for people to buy so they can get healthcare in these countries. Alternately, you might see an underground medical railroad to these places too.
24 posted on 02/16/2012 11:35:04 PM PST by Nowhere Man (Holodeck Computer: End Obama Administration simulation program, NOW!!!!)
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To: Nowhere Man; JimSEA
Combined with the tort lawyers attacks on drug industry profits, our medical care will get much worse, very quickly.

Another major consideration is that technological innovation will cease. Utterly. There'll be no incentive to pursue improvements or new ideas. There will be no market for them.

Instead, we'll be locked into the current state of the art. Or, more likely, something resembling the 1990 state-of-the-art -- since the more recent (thus, more expensive) technology won't be covered.

This is going to be a dreadful, dreadful mistake.

Well, it's not really a "mistake" is it. It's absolutely intentional.

25 posted on 02/16/2012 11:50:13 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: Nowhere Man

I do forsee possible medical tourism to places like Mexico, Costa Rica, Grenada, Domincian Republic, India, Thailand, Brazil, etc., if this is not stopped...


Medical tourism has been happening for years.

Many “FDA unapproved” medical treatments were being performed in clinics just over the border in Mexico before NAFTA was signed. My cousin was getting ozone treatments for ovarian cancer at a clinic just over the border in Mexico, and it was reducing her cancerous tumors.

One of the many NAFTA rules required Mexico to move all such clinics to be 100 miles south of the US-Mexico border. My cousin lost contact with the clinic when it moved, and by the time she found it again (6 months), her cancer had returned with a vengence, and she died.

If you go online, you can find many US trained physicians in Mexico who perform many procedures at a fraction of the cost in the US.


26 posted on 02/17/2012 8:49:34 AM PST by Mack the knife
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To: okie01
Another major consideration is that technological innovation will cease. Utterly. There'll be no incentive to pursue improvements or new ideas. There will be no market for them.

Instead, we'll be locked into the current state of the art. Or, more likely, something resembling the 1990 state-of-the-art -- since the more recent (thus, more expensive) technology won't be covered.

This is going to be a dreadful, dreadful mistake.

Well, it's not really a "mistake" is it. It's absolutely intentional.


I know. I had the same thoughts where this will stifle innovation. 1990 levels, we can only hope, it could be worse than that.
27 posted on 02/17/2012 9:09:40 AM PST by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: Mack the knife

Shame about your cousin, looks like she is like the Crispus Attucks of Obamacare (government meddling in medicine) assuming we do not stop it. IIRC, although the Boston Massacre did occur in 1770, Crispus Attucks is seen as the first Colonial death for the American Revolution. That’s another reason NAFTA is bad for us.


28 posted on 02/17/2012 9:13:41 AM PST by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: Nachum; Eric Blair 2084; SheLion; Gabz; Hank Kerchief; 383rr; libertarian27; traviskicks; ...

If Obamao wins re-election, we’re screwed.

Nanny State PING!


29 posted on 02/19/2012 6:28:51 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thanks for the ping!


30 posted on 02/19/2012 6:37:14 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; alisasny; ALlRightAllTheTime; ...
Remember this, folks?

PING!

31 posted on 02/19/2012 6:58:45 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: Eva

Dual citizen (if he’s like his brother) Ezekeiel Emanuel is directly imported from the 1917 Bolshevik Revolution.

Many of them sold their souls to the Devil to live forever (e.g. Kissinger) and I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s the original Bolshevik. Even that aside, these Communists purposely wear the Bolshevik-style glasses.

We all need to remember that the Communists murdered at least 100 million Christians in the 20th century alone.


32 posted on 02/19/2012 9:19:57 AM PST by Borax Queen
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To: USS Alaska

I think they will make it too hard to know who the panel is, so that we can’t find them?

Unless it’s like that “Twilight Zone” episode where people become “obsolete.”

That said, I can’t tell you how upsetting CommunistCare is to me. I got my master’s degree in science, finally found an excellent job with fantastic benefits (and we work HARD for them, round the clock and weekends a lot) — and about 12 years later, it’s all going to be taken away and redistributed. All I have to look forward to in my “golden years” is being told to take a pill and die, sooner rather than lter.


33 posted on 02/19/2012 9:24:02 AM PST by Borax Queen
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To: Eva

Chief Heathcare Advisor to Obama and brother of Rahm Emanuel.

"Every favor to a constituency should be linked to support for the health-care reform agenda. If the automakers want a bailout, then they and their suppliers have to agree to support and lobby for the administration's health-reform effort."

34 posted on 02/19/2012 1:26:02 PM PST by rlmorel ("A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." Winston Churchill)
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