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Sex: an inalienable right?
Renew America ^ | Lisa Fabrizio

Posted on 02/16/2012 1:30:30 PM PST by ReformationFan

Of all the hubbub rightly surrounding the healthcare mandate handed down from the imperial throne of Barack Obama, one aspect of this issue has not been sufficiently discussed: the disturbing fact that sex has now made its way into nearly all aspects of American life. Many have written of the clash between First Amendment rights and those who would seek to curb them, while others have debated the moral evils of abortion, but few have sought to plumb the cause of it all: our national descent into the sexual gutter.

Without doubt or question, sex rules our airwaves, satellites and all the forms of human communication which comprise our leisure time. The subject of sex dominates our children's education and overflows into the fields of sports, music and the so-called arts. It is indeed impossible to watch or listen to any form of entertainment without being bombarded with direct or indirect references to, or advertisements for, sex; its attainment, its glorification or the improvement of its 'performance.'

When we speak of sex this does not, of course, refer to what was once known as conjugal love; that which in an ordered society is a beneficial and great moral good. No, the modern conception of sex is that exercise of bodily functions which exists only for the use of human beings by other human beings solely as instruments of physical pleasure; often perversely so.

This desire for unfettered access to sex is probably one of the greatest reasons for this country's unfortunate descent into the realms of atheism and agnosticism.

(Excerpt) Read more at renewamerica.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: contraception; homosexualagenda; moralabsolutes; prolife
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1 posted on 02/16/2012 1:30:36 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: ReformationFan
Every great society eventually screws itself to collapse and death.
2 posted on 02/16/2012 1:33:33 PM PST by Glenn (iamtheresistance.org)
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To: ReformationFan

Viagra should never have been on the insurance list either.


3 posted on 02/16/2012 1:39:07 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Spoiler Alert! The secret to Terra Nova: THEY ARE ALL DEAD!!!)
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To: ReformationFan

Oh goody. Another Nanny State busybody claiming to be a conservative who wants to regulate what consenting adults can do in the privacy of their own homes.


4 posted on 02/16/2012 1:46:25 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: ReformationFan

Not a right only in the sense that food, water and oxygen are not rights either.


5 posted on 02/16/2012 1:50:06 PM PST by Harlan1196
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To: ReformationFan

In the old days, people had a good grip on things. They took matters into their own hands.


6 posted on 02/16/2012 1:51:59 PM PST by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: Lurker

Did you actually read the article itself? And when the rest of us have to pay for the consequences of what the “consenting adults do in the privacy of their own homes”, i.e., (their abortions, their out of wedlock children, health treatments for their STDs, trampling of 1st Amendment religious liberties, etc.), then yes it does become the public’s business.


7 posted on 02/16/2012 1:52:06 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: ReformationFan
If sex is a right and rights as the left thinks are to be provided by government mandate...then rape is legal as you must provide under law as it is my right
8 posted on 02/16/2012 1:54:03 PM PST by tophat9000 (American is Barack Oaken)
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To: All

Sex between consenting adults is nobody’s damn business.
Asking me to pay for someone’s poor decisions is indeed my business.
It’s funny how Conservatives are FALSELY accused of wanting to put their noses in everyone’s bedroom, while the opposite is acutally true.


9 posted on 02/16/2012 2:00:33 PM PST by Maverick68
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To: USMCPOP
"people had a good grip on things...took matters into their own hands."

They knew how to argue, they were master debaters.

10 posted on 02/16/2012 2:00:41 PM PST by NakedRampage (Puttin' the "stud" in Bible study)
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To: ReformationFan
And when the rest of us have to pay for the consequences of what the “consenting adults do in the privacy of their own homes”, i.e., (their abortions, their out of wedlock children, health treatments for their STDs, trampling of 1st Amendment religious liberties, etc.), then yes it does become the public’s business.

Where do we stop legislating consequences of peoples actions? What about fat people or smokers, they cost us money too. Your way leads us down a slippery slope of nanny date gov't watching and legislating everything we do.

The only way is to start changing peoples actions is through showing a better way, Install values in kids from a young age etc.

11 posted on 02/16/2012 2:01:41 PM PST by trailhkr1
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To: trailhkr1

“Where do we stop legislating consequences of peoples actions? What about fat people or smokers, they cost us money too. Your way leads us down a slippery slope of nanny date gov’t watching and legislating everything we do.”

It’s not MY way. It’s THE way it will happen in reality. We all know it. Personally speaking, I’d be perfectly happy for individual folks who are smokers, obese and sexually promiscuous to be solely responsible for their own financial responsibilities concerning the consequences of their behaviors but that’s never going to happen. It will be the taxpayers and the consumers who will be paying for it.

“The only way is to start changing peoples actions is through showing a better way, Install values in kids from a young age etc.”

I completely agree there.


12 posted on 02/16/2012 2:15:09 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: ReformationFan
And when the rest of us have to pay for the consequences

I think I see your problem. Quit forcing me to pay to clean up other peoples messes and leave me the hell alone.

13 posted on 02/16/2012 2:16:53 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: tophat9000

That’s certainly a logical consequence of that point of view. I figure it will soon be a right to “date, marry and/or have sex with anyone I want” regardless of whether the other party or parties involved are consenting or not.


14 posted on 02/16/2012 2:18:24 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: ReformationFan
Riiiiiigggghhhhhhhhttttttt.

And it's my wife's inalienable right to have a perpetual headache.

15 posted on 02/16/2012 2:20:03 PM PST by Night Hides Not (My dream ticket for 2012 is John Galt & Dagny Taggart!)
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To: Lurker

More or less. While the rest of us get to pay for the “free” health care of “Kolanda” and her 7 out of wedlock “chiluns.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIw5_a_jI0o


16 posted on 02/16/2012 2:24:28 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: ReformationFan
It’s not MY way. It’s THE way it will happen in reality. We all know it. Personally speaking, I’d be perfectly happy for individual folks who are smokers, obese and sexually promiscuous to be solely responsible for their own financial responsibilities concerning the consequences of their behaviors but that’s never going to happen. It will be the taxpayers and the consumers who will be paying for it.

I agree with this 100%. I thought you were coming from the angle of wanting to legislate what people do behind bedroom doors.

17 posted on 02/16/2012 2:29:26 PM PST by trailhkr1
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To: ReformationFan

Thus we see how when Government is in charge of health care there will be a “compelling government interest” in regulating every minute aspect of our lives.

After all - the rest of us will have to pay for the consequences!

No double bacon cheeseburger for YOU!

No unlocked firearms!

No riding a bike without a helmet!

No running with scissors!

No having sex without a condom!

Etc, etc, etc.

That is what is known as the “slippery slope” argument. Great job!


18 posted on 02/16/2012 2:35:16 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: ReformationFan
Tis a wicked world that wants to satisfy its appetites, however twisted, at any cost.
19 posted on 02/16/2012 2:42:45 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: ReformationFan
Sadly, it's all too alienable ...

Trust me on this ...

20 posted on 02/16/2012 2:46:08 PM PST by x
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To: ReformationFan

If sex is a right, then I want reparations.


21 posted on 02/16/2012 2:50:34 PM PST by GreenHornet
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To: trailhkr1

I hear folks bring up the specter of “bedroom legislation” but in this post-Christian, increasingly decadent society we now find ourselves in, is there really any big legal movement pushing for that today? Interestingly enough, Ronald Reagan thought we should keep the anti-sodomy laws on the books. It wasn’t because he wanted to enforce them. It was simply because he knew what would be unleashed culturally as a result of their repeal. History certainly proved him right in this area.


22 posted on 02/16/2012 3:01:22 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: GreenHornet
If sex is a right, then I want reparations.

OOOOOOoooohhh!!!!!

Hi, Honey ...

We're here to deliver your "reparations" ...

23 posted on 02/16/2012 3:03:44 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: NakedRampage

and a switch hitter was able to switch from right to left and never miss a lick


24 posted on 02/16/2012 3:09:15 PM PST by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: ArrogantBustard
Okay, maybe not!

(As the old saying goes, be careful what you ask for.....)

25 posted on 02/16/2012 3:10:09 PM PST by GreenHornet
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To: NakedRampage

“They knew how to argue, they were master debaters. “

Some would dismiss that as mere sleight of hand, but I think they twisted things around for their own reasons.


26 posted on 02/16/2012 3:11:23 PM PST by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: Lurker
Oh goody. Another Nanny State busybody claiming to be a conservative who wants to regulate what consenting adults can do in the privacy of their own homes.

And where do you see any call in the article for government regulation. This is quite different from promoting a moral vision that virtuous people regulate themselves.

27 posted on 02/16/2012 3:15:11 PM PST by Petrosius
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To: ReformationFan

You can run for office, become a legislator and make sex illegal. Now, feel better?


28 posted on 02/16/2012 3:25:03 PM PST by Rudder (The Main Stream Media is Our Enemy---get used to it.)
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To: freedumb2003
Viagra should never have been on the insurance list either.

It all depends on which list you are refering to.

The original development of the drug was to aid in heart circulatory problems.........until it was discovered that it also aided in erectile dysfunction.

Many drug plans will not pay for Viagara unless it is specifically related to heart conditions........mine included.

29 posted on 02/16/2012 3:27:32 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (The only solution to this primary is a shoot out! Last person standing picks the candidate)
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To: Rudder

Please try actually reading the article before commenting.

Thank you for your cooperation.


30 posted on 02/16/2012 3:27:58 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: Lurker

[ Oh goody. Another Nanny State busybody claiming to be a conservative who wants to regulate what consenting adults can do in the privacy of their own homes. ]

What are you talking about?


31 posted on 02/16/2012 3:31:14 PM PST by KansasGirl
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To: Petrosius

“And where do you see any call in the article for government regulation. This is quite different from promoting a moral vision that virtuous people regulate themselves.”

Thank you, Petrosius. I think many folks commenting never actually read what Miss Fabrizio actually wrote.


32 posted on 02/16/2012 3:31:30 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: Maverick68
Sex between consenting adults is nobody’s damn business. Asking me to pay for someone’s poor decisions is indeed my business.
It’s funny how Conservatives are FALSELY accused of wanting to put their noses in everyone’s bedroom, while the opposite is acutally true.


Exactly right. I don't care what consenting adults do in their bedroom either, nor do I feel the need to obsess over it like some, but this idea that we have to financially support what other people do in their bedrooms is ridiculous.
33 posted on 02/16/2012 3:45:14 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: Hot Tabasco

>>Many drug plans will not pay for Viagara unless it is specifically related to heart conditions........mine included.<<

I stand corrected. I meant as a sexual stimulus drug only. And FWIU, many insurance companies cover it as that way as well as a heart medication.


34 posted on 02/16/2012 3:50:58 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Spoiler Alert! The secret to Terra Nova: THEY ARE ALL DEAD!!!)
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To: freedumb2003
many insurance companies cover it as that way as well as a heart medication.

And many companies such as mine, which is self insured, do not allow the prescribing of the drug for sexual purposes whatsoever...........

35 posted on 02/16/2012 3:58:57 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (The only solution to this primary is a shoot out! Last person standing picks the candidate)
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To: af_vet_rr

“but this idea that we have to financially support what other people do in their bedrooms is ridiculous.”

That’s exactly what it is.


36 posted on 02/16/2012 4:51:42 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: ReformationFan
C'mon, folks.....it's right there! Open your eyes!!!

Life, liberty and the pursuit of HAPPINESS!!

I have it on good authority, that there was a rousing debate about the phrase reading Life, Liberty and the pursuit of....Thingy! but the Founders, after a night of wild partying decided it would be huge fun to put the whole thing in code.

Those Rascally Founders! The clues are everywhere- planted there for some brilliant future liberal mind to interpret the TRUE meaning behind this silly little document.

Really, did John Hancock HAVE to sign so prominently? Another signer, Philip Livingston. Did you realize the letters in his name spell Pill Voting Hip Ins? Coincidence??? I think not!!! And you do know Franklin was actually endorsing same-sex unions when he suggested that the Turkey be the national bird. You have a turkey and what do you need? A baster, of course!

You people just don't know how to read between the lines, I tell you!

37 posted on 02/16/2012 6:00:42 PM PST by Mygirlsmom (Disgusted with it all.)
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To: ReformationFan

Reproduction is a basic tenet of life.

And for the human race, that is fulfilled through sex.


38 posted on 02/16/2012 6:16:21 PM PST by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: ReformationFan
It’s not MY way. It’s THE way it will happen in reality. We all know it. Personally speaking, I’d be perfectly happy for individual folks who are smokers, obese and sexually promiscuous to be solely responsible for their own financial responsibilities concerning the consequences of their behaviors but that’s never going to happen. It will be the taxpayers and the consumers who will be paying for it.

It only happens that way because the citizenry of America *WANT IT* to happen that way. We are the ultimate arbiters of what becomes law, as we are the ones who put lawmakers into office.

And if we no longer wish to pay for the mistakes of others, then we will elect those who will change the laws of our land to reflect that.

39 posted on 02/16/2012 6:21:46 PM PST by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: USMCPOP

There are still a few who have a grasp of what is really important.


40 posted on 02/16/2012 6:38:00 PM PST by RipSawyer
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To: NakedRampage

“They knew how to argue, they were master debaters.”
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Yes, some were indeed master debaters but greater yet than they and far more in demand were those who were known as cunning linguists.


41 posted on 02/16/2012 6:43:15 PM PST by RipSawyer
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To: RipSawyer

“There are still a few who have a grasp of what is really important.”

Hey, I’m just an old guy, but I’m hanging on to tradition. :)


42 posted on 02/16/2012 6:53:29 PM PST by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: ReformationFan

I read the article. My comment still stands.


43 posted on 02/16/2012 7:35:05 PM PST by Rudder (The Main Stream Media is Our Enemy---get used to it.)
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To: Maverick68

If a husband cheats on his devoted wife who loves him, by consenting to have sex with another woman, she is caused tremendous grief by his infidelity. Even if the infidelity were reconciled, the sexual grievance would still deny her human satisfaction had his criminal action never occurred.

It very much is the business of the proper spouse, as well as the consequential familial relations, and ultimately the social fabric upon which the State is unified.

It also scars the thinking of the two criminals, such that their natural response in the future is more likely to promote further perverse behavior to satiate criminal desires.


44 posted on 02/16/2012 7:43:47 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: tophat9000

That’s essentially how the left views the wealth which you create. It isn’t a giant leap to exactly what you are suggesting.


45 posted on 02/16/2012 8:17:29 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: tophat9000

That’s essentially how the left views the wealth which you create. It isn’t a giant leap to exactly what you are suggesting.


46 posted on 02/16/2012 8:17:58 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Rudder

Then please show me in the article where the author specifically endorsed the criminalization of all sexual activity, even between husband and wife, because I obviously missed that part.


47 posted on 02/16/2012 8:23:51 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: gogogodzilla

“It only happens that way because the citizenry of America *WANT IT* to happen that way. We are the ultimate arbiters of what becomes law, as we are the ones who put lawmakers into office.

“And if we no longer wish to pay for the mistakes of others, then we will elect those who will change the laws of our land to reflect that.”

You’re more optimistic than I am. Our politicians(even the so-called “conservative” and “libertarian” ones) lack the courage to do what they promise while the libs and statists have the complete confidence in their ability to encourage behavior that results in more folks depending on the ever expanding government and voting them into office in order to get their “free” stuff.


48 posted on 02/16/2012 8:33:23 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: ReformationFan

Sarcasm


49 posted on 02/16/2012 8:37:11 PM PST by Rudder (The Main Stream Media is Our Enemy---get used to it.)
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To: ReformationFan

“I haz rights to sex!”

Wow - a line only a Democrap would come up with.


50 posted on 02/16/2012 9:17:51 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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