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Delays Keep Chevy Caprice PPV From Patrolling Streets
Chevy Hardcore ^ | 2/15/12 | Chris Demorro

Posted on 02/16/2012 7:14:43 PM PST by Impala64ssa

With the Ford Crown Victoria retired after over 30 years of dutiful service, the market for police vehicles is wide open. GM was hoping to capitalize with an Australian-built rear-wheel drive sedan called the Chevy Caprice Police Patrol Vehicle, which is in high demand but short supply around the country.

Some police departments are up in arms, waiting over a year for delivery of their Caprice PPV’s reports the duPont registry. The problem stems from shipping and dealership delays, and police departments aren’t happy.

Of the five Florida police departments that ordered Caprice PPV’s for testing, only two, Tampa and Largo, have received their cars. The Tampa department got their Caprices after 10 months; it took GM almost 13 months to deliver cars to the Largo department. Police chiefs are understandably worried about GM’s ability to deliver the cars in a timely fashion, when Dodge is often able to deliver their Charger police cars in two to three months.

Many departments are slashing budgets for fuel and vehicles, and with new offerings from all three American automakers, police departments have unprecedented choice in outfitting their fleets. GM could be shooting itself in the foot, having reportedly made last-minute design changes that kept suppliers from making parts until the last minute.

But word on the street is that the Caprice PPV, with its 6.0 liter V8, is the quickest and fastest of the current cop car offerings, and fairly fuel efficient as well. Is it good enough to overcome GM’s missteps with the initial rollout, though?


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 0bamamotors; chdvy; chevy; gm
Gee, I thought with all that bailout $$$ GM would streamline their R&D and resolve any logistics issues. Most police depts consider the new Caprice the best police cruiser ever built and Gov't Motors is dropping the ball.
1 posted on 02/16/2012 7:14:52 PM PST by Impala64ssa
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To: Impala64ssa
Most police depts consider the new Caprice the best police cruiser ever built

From what I understand, many are reserving judgment until they get their hands on one, or at least until enough reports are out on how the new offerings from Ford and GM will perform and how well they hold up.

2 posted on 02/16/2012 7:20:43 PM PST by FreedomOfExpression
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To: Impala64ssa
Replate the Volt as a Caprice. The cops could sneek up on crooks with the electric motors.
3 posted on 02/16/2012 7:24:58 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Impala64ssa

I am surprised. There are so many police Tahoe’s out there that I can’t imagine GM shipping cars from Australia.

Years ago, GM put together a “police special” Tahoe with a big V8 and something like a 4.56 rear-end. Super fast acceleration and heavy duty carrying capacity, but really bad fuel consumption.


4 posted on 02/16/2012 7:26:49 PM PST by tpmintx (Problem: The people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who VOTE for a living.)
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To: Impala64ssa

What? The Fed hasen’t mandated a rule that they have to use the Chevy Volt?


5 posted on 02/16/2012 7:30:12 PM PST by oyez
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6 posted on 02/16/2012 7:34:41 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: tpmintx

Yes, I believe the Border Patrol in the SW uses Tahoes, they do suck up gas, but they hold up very well.


7 posted on 02/16/2012 7:40:52 PM PST by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: Impala64ssa

8 posted on 02/16/2012 7:46:58 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: count-your-change
Maybe there are some surplus Dodge Monaco that have, according to Elwood - "It's got a cop motor, a 440-cubic-inch plant. It's got cop tires, cop suspension, cop shocks. It's a model made before catalytic converters so it'll run good on regular gas."
9 posted on 02/16/2012 8:11:00 PM PST by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: smokingfrog

That’s almost as fugly as the old fat-arsed Caprice of the 90’s. Too bad Ford discontinued the Crown Vic. Nice to see the new, nimble Gubermint Motors snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.


10 posted on 02/16/2012 8:13:13 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Limbaugh: Tim Tebow miracle: "He had atheists praying to God that he would lose.")
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To: FreedomOfExpression
My department got six a few months ago. The verdict is in: freakin’ awesome. I got reassigned before they went into use...but I really liked the Charger test car. Problem with the Charger was it needed new brakes every 10,000 miles...and that was a lot of money. The Charger zooms. The fellas say the Caprice zooms better, and handles like a dream. I like the lines of the Charger, but it can't keep up with the Caprice's pace and handling and reliability....according to the guys who are using the five cars that are left: they're also very safe....crumple up like tinfoil to protect the driver in high speed crashes. My buddy John, it is surmised, owes his life to the design.
11 posted on 02/16/2012 8:14:58 PM PST by dasboot
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To: wally_bert

I’d like to have one of those Dodges. So long as it wasn’t a K-9 unit. Never would be able to get the smell out.


12 posted on 02/16/2012 8:21:53 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Impala64ssa

The Saudis love the Caprice also. I didn’t even know they were still making that model until I went to Saudi Arabia. They’re all over the place.


13 posted on 02/16/2012 8:23:53 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (You can only shovel so much crap into a melting pot before you have nothing but a pot full of crap.)
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To: count-your-change

The pork, or the canine? :^)


14 posted on 02/16/2012 8:24:58 PM PST by dasboot
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To: Impala64ssa; All
Gee, I thought with all that bailout $$$ GM would streamline their R&D and resolve any logistics issues.

Nah...

One of my buds spoke to a GM-er he knows. The GMer said ya things changed the 1st year after the bailout but they are going back to their old ways.

Besides the Ford Police Explorer and Taurus should be here soon if not already here....

15 posted on 02/16/2012 8:25:29 PM PST by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: Impala64ssa; All
Gee, I thought with all that bailout $$$ GM would streamline their R&D and resolve any logistics issues.

Nah...

One of my buds spoke to a GM-er he knows. The GMer said ya things changed the 1st year after the bailout but they are going back to their old ways.

Besides the Ford Police Explorer and Taurus should be here soon if not already here....

16 posted on 02/16/2012 8:25:52 PM PST by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: taildragger
The Tauruses we got a few years back are not holding up so well. And they were driven by detectives. They weren’t that good when new. I drove one a couple weeks ago...highway, about 120 miles. Whined, bucked and shook like a Vega.....brakes squealing...yikes.

The gas mileage is great, though!

17 posted on 02/16/2012 8:33:23 PM PST by dasboot
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To: taildragger

ps

I drive an Expedition. I’ve driven the Explorer...not so hot....small and effete. The Expedition has guts and handling and room, over-the-top. A real tough horse.


18 posted on 02/16/2012 8:39:34 PM PST by dasboot
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To: dasboot

That was the old Taurus. The new Taurus is pretty much the older Ford 500 with several improvements.

The new Taurus is a very nice full sized luxury sedan at a very reasonable price.


19 posted on 02/16/2012 8:40:14 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: FlingWingFlyer

“The Saudis love the Caprice also. I didn’t even know they were still making that model until I went to Saudi Arabia. They’re all over the place.”

The pre-soap bar Caprice in good shape is a hard to find and pretty expensive, and the two-door version is surprisingly rare, period. Many were sold in the Middle East new and used/restored models were even sent there.

It’s my understanding that US cars are popular in the Middle East is that we still have the best automotive air conditioners in the world.


20 posted on 02/16/2012 8:42:09 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: Impala64ssa
Seems to me the point that has been missed - other than the fact that GM North America couldn't deliver it's own a$$ on time - is that these cars aren't actually produced by GM, at least not the "GM" that everyone in the US knows, but rather by GM Australia, otherwise known as Holden (technically, GM Holden LTD). They build those things in Australia, not the US so, technically, they're not US cars, they're foreign cars. That's probably why they look pretty da%ned good:



as opposed to the tripe that GM the-captive-subsidiary-of-the-US-government puts out, like the Volt.
21 posted on 02/16/2012 8:48:19 PM PST by Oceander (TINSTAAFL - Mother Nature Abhors a Free Lunch almost as much as She Abhors a Vacuum)
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To: Impala64ssa

No no no, the article says the problem is with shipping and dealerships.

lol. Not even remotely believable


22 posted on 02/16/2012 8:52:33 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: wally_bert

You threw me off by saying that Dodge didn’t have a catalytic converter. It looks like a 1978 model and according to this article they had 255 hp with a catalytic converter:
http://www.allpar.com/squads/history.html


23 posted on 02/16/2012 9:57:14 PM PST by Sicvee (Sicvee)
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