Skip to comments.Minn. Police, Attorneys Oppose Deadly Force Bill (Stand Your Ground)
Posted on 02/16/2012 7:53:15 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo
Key police chiefs and county prosecutors joined together on Thursday to urge Minnesota lawmakers to not pass legislation that would give people more freedom to use deadly force when protecting themselves.
The legislation creates the presumption that a person in their home or other dwelling who uses deadly force does so believing they are in danger of harm or death. The bill also removes the obligation for that person to retreat from such a situation. It's headed for a full Senate vote soon.
Dakota County Attorney James Backstrom said at a Capitol press conference that the bill shifts the standard to use deadly force from the current "reasonable person" standard to a more subjective one.
"Under this proposal, it would become what is in the person's mind as to whether they feel threatened," Backstrom said. "That is the controlling factor. Not what a reasonable person would have done when facing similar circumstances."
Dayton said last week he wasn't sure if he'd sign or veto the bill, but mentioned that opposition from law enforcement officials would likely influence his decision.
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Dayton will veto this bill four seconds after he receives it.
Backstrom is a career liberal politician first and a lawyer, second.
It is said in Dakota County that the most dangerous place to be is between Jim Backstrom and a television camera or a radio microphone.
Aren’t most police chiefs in Minnesota big, union commie libs anyway?
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Crazy grandstanding perse-prosecutor. More dead or seriously wounded burglars? Fewer homeowners responsible for that situation in trouble? Allah, Gaia, or the god-of-the-week forbid?!?
It is a basic truism everywhere: people deserve the scum they elect.
Why do I carry a gun?
Because carrying a cop is too hard.
“If a person on their own property murders another person, this bill creates a very large loophole for their defense,” Kolb said.
Minneapolis Police Chief Tim Dolan said the bill would make serving warrants even more dangerous for officers. He held up a shield officers use when entering homes to illustrate how bullets can pass through it.
It’s ironic they suggest this is bad because it puts the police at risk.
I thought the law was about law abiding citizens protecting themselves and their families.
this bill would mean less business for both police and attorneys...of course they oppose it!
Yeah, the rank-and-file (I know a few cops) are on board with this. It’s the Chiefs and the Sheriffs and the other politicians playing at being law enforcement that oppose anything that might hurt their re-election chances.
Sounds like a sucky “shield.”
Dolan fails to mention his now-defunct goon squad(s) that had a penchant for shooting up the wrong house in a search for drug dealers that lived a half a block away.
Why isn’t there more mutiny of beat-cops. It seems to be the same story almost anywhere. Beat cops would be glad to deal with dead burglars. While police chiefs have kittens about it.
That’s pretty close to the truth.
I used to live in Dakota County (Eagan). My view of MN law enforcement - mostly in and around the Twin Cities - is a total joke.
Of course now San Antonio has to put up with McManus.
“Why isnt there more mutiny of beat-cops?”
They need to feed their families.
How you doin’, Fred?
Grew up in Eagan, still living in Dakota County.
Woof! Forgot about McDumbAss, for a moment there...
“reasonable person” can mean any damned thing someone wants to make it.
Evidently, YOU get it!