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Eligibility verification bill in Kansas past committee; needs support
Topeka Capital-Journal ^ | 02/16/2012 | edge919

Posted on 02/16/2012 10:46:27 PM PST by edge919

The elections committee in the Kansas House just passed a an eligibility bill requiring state and federal candidates to show a certified copy of their birth certificate as proof of citizenship. This coincides with a similar effort in Kansas on voter identification.

"A House committee approved a bill Wednesday requiring candidates for state and federal office to provide proof of citizenship, a reflection of the "birther" movement raising questions of President Barack Obama's status as a U.S. citizen."

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"The objective of the bill, he said, should be to require proof of citizenship for state and federal candidates because Kansas is requiring the same scrutiny of voters.

"We ought to require proof of citizenship to run," Rubin said."

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"Rep. Scott Schwab, an Olathe Republican and chairman of the House Elections Committee, said origin of House Bill 2224 was tied to anxiety about Obama's birth status."


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Kansas
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; eligibility; naturalborncitizen
You can see the full story at the link. We really need some help supporting this bill. Obama himself voted for a bill in 2005 that requires average citizens to provide birth certificates when applying for drivers license and ID cards. Such certificates are subject to verfication by the issuing agency. There's no reason Obama and other politicians cannot be held to the same standard he voted for.
1 posted on 02/16/2012 10:46:35 PM PST by edge919
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2 posted on 02/16/2012 11:27:59 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: edge919

Needs to require an unredacted paper copy that is available for public viewing immediately upon request at any time during a business week, business hours.


3 posted on 02/16/2012 11:48:28 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: edge919
"You can see the full story at the link."

I read it. From the "article": "Politicians and conspiracy theorists, sometimes referred to as birthers, have sought to disqualify Obama from running for president, being sworn into office and running for re-election. They have claimed Obama isn't a natural-born citizen and consequently ineligible to be president."

No one is trying to "disqualify" Mr. "Obama" from anything. They're asking him to demonstrate that he is qualified. Big difference. "In 2008, Obama released documents from Hawaii regarding his birth. He also released last year a certified copy of his original certificate of live birth from Hawaii.

Funny, I must've missed the part where "Obama" displayed anything other than online images of his so-called "documents".

It's a Journ-O-List type opinion piece masquerading as a "news" story. And if the intellectual firepower on display in the comments section is any indication of the sentiments of the average Kansan, then it's going to be an uphill climb, to put it mildly.

4 posted on 02/16/2012 11:58:28 PM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: edge919
The objective of the bill, he said, should be to require proof of citizenship for state and federal candidates because Kansas is requiring the same scrutiny of voters.

"We ought to require proof of citizenship to run," Rubin said.

someone needs to correct these people. maybe, just maybe, they should actually READ the requirements of eligibility

being citizen is not enough.

any candidates should provide proof of being a NATURAL BORN citizen. anything less is worthless

5 posted on 02/17/2012 12:09:11 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: sten

It’s not a perfect bill, but it’s a step in the right direction. This bill applies to both state and federal offices, so they may have elected not to get too specific. Only the president would be required to be natural-born. Of course, the current occupant has NEVER provided a certified copy of his birth certificate to any state as proof of citizenship, so this bill would most likely keep him off the ballot. And, ideally, there would be a way to challenge a candidate who doesn’t meet other Constitutional requirements other than this citizenship verification. The important thing is to get Kansans to support the bill and make sure it is passed. Hopefully Brownback would sign it.


6 posted on 02/17/2012 12:18:39 AM PST by edge919
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

Previous eligibility bills ahve been an “uphill climb” in other states. It’s rare they get to this point. Kansas has a strong blue state tradition and this is coupled with a voter ID bill, so there appears to be a strong sentiment behind it.


7 posted on 02/17/2012 12:21:27 AM PST by edge919
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To: edge919
". . .this is coupled with a voter ID bill, so there appears to be a strong sentiment behind it."

I noted that as well. Tying it to the valid argument that candidates should have to demonstrate citizenship just as voters should have to would seem to be a winning argument. I just find myself feeling jaded on the odds of our elected representatives of any state passing "proofer" legislation of any kind, particularly after the debacle in Arizona.

That said, if the bill were to succeed, simply requiring the Illegal Alien in Chief to produce a valid document demonstrating any kind of US citizenship at all would probably cause him to bail from the process entirely.

8 posted on 02/17/2012 1:34:37 AM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: edge919

Good on Kansas! That is the Constitutional way to handle the issue, through the political process.

Federal courts have enough illegitimate power as it is. We do not want to establish a precedent of federal judges deciding who to leave or kick off Presidential ballots.


9 posted on 02/17/2012 3:27:28 AM PST by Jacquerie (No court will save us from ourselves.)
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To: edge919
requiring state and federal candidates to show a certified copy of their birth certificate as proof of citizenship.

Obama simply submits his short-form COLB and that will be that.

10 posted on 02/17/2012 3:35:06 AM PST by Drew68
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To: Drew68

The one with the fake seal?


11 posted on 02/17/2012 5:31:15 AM PST by JohnnyP
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To: Drew68

Correct. He just needs to show his US short form and keep his Indonesian and Kenyan passports tucked away in the closet. Oh yes, and stop publicly stating that Kenya is his home country.


12 posted on 02/17/2012 5:40:55 AM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: JohnnyP
It's a damn shame it's come down to this.

A Kenyan citizen has to show his US BC to get elected. What kind of country treats Kenyans like this? His Indonesian sister and Kenyan brother must be so embarrassed at how he's being treated.

13 posted on 02/17/2012 5:53:15 AM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: edge919

You will need people on Facebook and twitter. People love videos, perhaps a little video on the bill would be very helpful. Call in to the talk shows. Signs on cars.

You need people who will volunteer.


14 posted on 02/17/2012 7:45:21 AM PST by jdirt
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To: JohnnyP
The one with the fake seal?

As long as Hawaiian state officials vouch for it (as they have) Kansas will accept it.

15 posted on 02/17/2012 8:40:33 AM PST by Drew68
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To: Drew68

If a Sheriff vouches for their authenticity, could he use his Indonesian or Kenyan passport?


16 posted on 02/17/2012 11:29:38 AM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: Drew68

Which one?


17 posted on 02/17/2012 2:34:00 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: Drew68

As long as Hawaiian state officials vouch for it (as they have) Kansas will accept it.


You mean those same officials who have previously stated that “it is written down in the State archives” or “it is half hand written and half type written? LOL!


18 posted on 02/17/2012 2:35:55 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: Drew68

The Kenyan coward has never submitted ANY of his alleged COLB or LFBCs to any official legal body. There’s a good reason why he’s too skeered to do so.


19 posted on 02/17/2012 11:15:17 PM PST by edge919
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To: edge919; Fred F NJ; TheOldLady

I see a bunch of folks must have gotten the same FReepmail.

Gee, a lot of them are working overtime. They must be skeered.

They sure spend a lot of time telling us not to waste our time.

Very odd, since it’s all so unimportant.


20 posted on 02/18/2012 5:58:17 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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21 posted on 02/18/2012 6:39:10 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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