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Denied jobs, blacks in Iowa test new bias legal theory
The Des Moines Register (Associated Press) | RYAN J. FOLEY

Posted on 02/17/2012 8:02:08 AM PST by newgeezer

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Denied jobs, blacks in Iowa test new bias legal theory



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: racewhores; racism; reparations
Someone once spoke of a dream that his children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.

As we all know too well, there are some racists among us who work very hard to ensure that day never arrives.

1 posted on 02/17/2012 8:02:19 AM PST by newgeezer
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To: newgeezer

In the US, as designed, laws are about individuals. You can not be held accountable for the actions of others unless it can be proved you coerced or otherwise may be partly responsible for their actions. And you do not have rights because of a group you belong to. You have INDIVIDUAL rights.

It means that unless they are throwing out what this country is based on, you cannot decide any single case based on a larger picture. Either there is evidence that a particular applicant was discriminated against, or there isn’t. Anything beyond that is wealth redistribution.

It is that black and white. (no pun intended)


2 posted on 02/17/2012 8:07:32 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: newgeezer; cuban leaf
"...Implicit Association Test to test racial stereotypes."

Were there any tests to test for "qualifications" or is that forbidden?

3 posted on 02/17/2012 8:13:16 AM PST by davisfh
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To: newgeezer
Fascinating Case!

Iowa now might have more Hispanics than African-Americans. The fact that Hispanic immigration, legal and illegal, is costing African-Americans their treasured places on the Affirmative Action scam list and on the Welfare line may dawn on them soon.

NEWSFLASH! Once their beloved Democratic Party started getting more votes from the Latinos than from them, it stands to reason that the Latinos are going to get more of those gubmint goodies. Hello!

4 posted on 02/17/2012 8:14:55 AM PST by Kenny Bunk ((So, you're telling me Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out this eligibility stuff?))
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To: newgeezer
This touches upon the most fundamental principles of our Constitution and why the anti-discrimination rulings of the 60's were wrong and all EEOC rulings have been in violation of our Constitution.

A private company/corporation is exactly what it says--PRIVATE. The government, both local and federal, should have absolutely no say in who they hire, what criteria they use for hiring, or who the choose to serve and what criteria they use to make that decision.

That is the essence of freedom and anti-discrimination laws are the essence of state bondage and slavery.

Call me a racist if you wish, the state has absolutely no business telling an employer who they can or must hire or why.
5 posted on 02/17/2012 8:16:57 AM PST by Sudetenland (Anybody but Obama!!!!)
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To: newgeezer
Instead, their lawyers argue that managers subconsciously favored whites across state government, leaving blacks at a disadvantage in decisions over who got interviewed, hired and promoted.

So, now the thought police are going to punish eveyrone for what is allegedly sub-consciously thought, instead of what is consciously done?

6 posted on 02/17/2012 8:19:06 AM PST by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: davisfh

—Were there any tests to test for “qualifications” or is that forbidden?—

Exactly. That is why it has to be done on a case by case basis. Conversely, The MAIN reason we have more black males in prison is that black males commit more crime. In some cases it was based on discrimination, but that must be determined on a case by case basis. We don’t just let them all out.


7 posted on 02/17/2012 8:24:12 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Kenny Bunk
Yep. And that's the dilemma.

The Hispanic racist lobby decided that they could increase their total pool of stuff from the government by making the definition of "Hispanic" so broad that just about anybody could qualify. My wife's paternal grandparents were born in Puerto Rico, so my kids could qualify (if we wanted to play that card).

The Native American lobby, on the other hand, decided to make the definition as tight as possible so there would be fewer people to divvy up with. I have more total Native American blood than many of those playing the race card. But because it comes from multiple tribes, the individual contributions are not enough to qualify for anything. So my Dad had no choice but to get off the reservation and make it in white man's world.

American blacks may soon be facing the same dilemma.

8 posted on 02/17/2012 8:32:41 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Sudetenland

You’re right.
Gov’t has no right picking winners and losers.
It has no right interfering in the economy or
American society at all.


9 posted on 02/17/2012 8:46:50 AM PST by Crucial
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To: newgeezer

Novel approach. In all instances where a Black applicant is not hired, discrimination has occurred.


10 posted on 02/17/2012 8:48:06 AM PST by JimSEA
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To: newgeezer

It’s tough to get a job when you don’t go looking for one. Homey doesn’t want to work. It’s ‘’acting white’’ and Homey don’t play that.


11 posted on 02/17/2012 8:52:29 AM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: newgeezer

Someone once spoke of a dream that his children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.


That someone is now considered a Tom.


12 posted on 02/17/2012 8:54:22 AM PST by chessplayer
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To: Hodar

“So, now the thought police are going to punish eveyrone for what is allegedly sub-consciously thought, instead of what is consciously done?”

Exactly!

The next step is for “liberals” to officially declare all white Americans to be racists as in the Duluth Minnesota Billboard campaign, and thus second class citizens in American law.

Eric “My People” Holder has already said as much by testifying before a Senate Committee that white Americans are not protected by Hate Crime laws. And his Holder Youth have taken the cue and are violent assaulting whites coast to coast with “flash mobs” as the Corrupt Liberal Media looks the other way.


13 posted on 02/17/2012 8:57:46 AM PST by Uncle Lonny
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To: newgeezer

This is just another imaginary offense fabricated by greedy lawyers trolling for another big series of class action settlements.

Apparently they feel they didn’t steal enough from the economy with their outrageous tobacco lawsuits.


14 posted on 02/17/2012 9:10:59 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight he'll just kill you." John Steinbeck)
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To: newgeezer

Any and every Black person in America knows only too well that bad luck, illiteracy, and garden variety stupdity are all Whitey’s fault.


15 posted on 02/17/2012 9:12:02 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: newgeezer
Black America, keep suing over jobs that for which you did not get hired!

(It serves to distract you from the fact that your children are being slaughtered by design in abortion mills.)

16 posted on 02/17/2012 9:32:25 AM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Sudetenland

“This touches upon the most fundamental principles of our Constitution and why the anti-discrimination rulings of the 60’s were wrong and all EEOC rulings have been in violation of our Constitution. A private company/corporation is exactly what it says—PRIVATE. The government, both local and federal, should have absolutely no say in who they hire, what criteria they use for hiring, or who the choose to serve and what criteria they use to make that decision.
That is the essence of freedom and anti-discrimination laws are the essence of state bondage and slavery. Call me a racist if you wish, the state has absolutely no business telling an employer who they can or must hire or why.”

Bingo.

If a Korean restaurant only wants to serve Koreans, they should be able to. If an Indian business only wants to employ Indians, they should not have to answer to anyone else for doing so.

If someone doesn’t like it, let them start their own restaurant or business.


17 posted on 02/17/2012 9:38:01 AM PST by SharpRightTurn ( White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: Kenny Bunk

“The fact that Hispanic immigration, legal and illegal, is costing African-Americans their treasured places on the Affirmative Action scam list and on the Welfare line may dawn on them soon.”

They’re slow to pick up on that; I see whole departments where the clerical staff is 100% Hispanic (in “black” neighborhoods).

Now that employees have their pick of job seekers, who is going to hire someone with an affirmative action diploma/degree?


18 posted on 02/17/2012 10:12:00 AM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: cuban leaf

“Either there is evidence that a particular applicant was discriminated against, or there isn’t.”

Once the state decided to give blacks unearned diplomas and degrees as reparations, it has to pretend that they have some value.

Simple, short essays can usually determine whether or not an applicant has basic English skills (whether that applicant is white, black, brown, yellow, whatever); if this is a requirement for a job opening you are posting, it is best to screen applicants along these lines. You’d be surprised how many people write exactly how they speak (phonetically); it is sad, and even sadder because nobody will be honest with them and tell them they are 10 years behind any fifteen year-old.


19 posted on 02/17/2012 10:19:14 AM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: newgeezer

I’ve got a question for some of you lawyers out there.

How is that a new “legal theory” can be rejected again and again by the courts. The one court accepts it, and all of a sudden it is a binding precedent?

How come the rejections weren’t taken as “binding precedents”? Is the law a one way ratchet for socialism, race-hatred, and Satan?


20 posted on 02/17/2012 10:41:40 AM PST by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man. Never trust anyone who hasn't been punched in the face)
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To: Kenny Bunk
“The fact that Hispanic immigration, legal and illegal, is costing African-Americans their treasured places on the Affirmative Action scam list and on the Welfare line may dawn on them soon.”

I heard a LA black preacher talk in a similar fashon to his congregation. His message was that very soon it will be the hispanics who will usurp them in every area, and you won't have the white boy to blame this time.

The point of the message was to stop complaining, get off your behind and make something of yourself, or you'll forever be on the plantation.

21 posted on 02/17/2012 11:45:11 AM PST by MichaelCorleone (Stop feeding the beast; spend money only with those who support traditional American values.)
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To: SharpRightTurn
If a Korean restaurant only wants to serve Koreans, they should be able to. If an Indian business only wants to employ Indians, they should not have to answer to anyone else for doing so.

I agree. But what are all those Koreans and Indians doing here, anyway?

22 posted on 02/17/2012 11:59:22 AM PST by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man. Never trust anyone who hasn't been punched in the face)
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To: Hodar
At least, it's not the Thought Police. Ah, er, it's the Subconscious Police instead. Progress!!
23 posted on 02/17/2012 12:18:53 PM PST by Jabba the Nutt (.Are they stupid, malicious or evil?)
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To: chesley

“I agree. But what are all those Koreans and Indians doing here, anyway?”

Good point. Maybe because the ruling class thinks our roads, schools, and prisons aren’t crowded enough and the numbers of the white population in the U.S. hasn’t been diluted enough yet?


24 posted on 02/17/2012 1:09:12 PM PST by SharpRightTurn ( White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: newgeezer

Less than 3% of the Iowan population is black, they’re not really underrepresented relative to that in the state workforce.


25 posted on 02/17/2012 1:39:27 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: cuban leaf; newgeezer
"We don’t just let them all out."

I have an even better idea. It would take a generation or two to implement it, though. Why doesn't the government just mandate that people with IQs of 130 or higher be required to marry people with IQs of 80 or lower. That would have the effect of lowering the mentality of the nation in general and guarantee a more docile nation. The spawn of this plan would be far more receptive to receiving sustenance from the central government and would be devoid of the troublesome habit of thinking for themselves.

26 posted on 02/17/2012 1:45:51 PM PST by davisfh
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To: newgeezer

"Yes, I can clearly see you are a racist.
And don't try to deny it - it won't work."


27 posted on 02/17/2012 3:11:02 PM PST by Iron Munro ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight he'll just kill you." John Steinbeck)
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To: newgeezer

>>>managers subconsciously favored whites across state government, leaving blacks at a disadvantage in decisions over who got interviewed, hired and promoted<<<

Wow. It’s like reading science fiction. People have used the term “thought police” for decades as a metaphor. Apparently someone wants to do this for real.

God help us.


28 posted on 02/18/2012 1:03:24 PM PST by redpoll
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