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Car Jack used to Breach Border Fence
Numbers USA ^ | Numbers USA

Posted on 02/17/2012 12:15:36 PM PST by GILTN1stborn

Just about a week ago, we were given a video exposing a major breach on the U.S./Mexico border near Lukeville, Ariz. located about 100 miles southwest of Tucson.

We checked its authenticity with our sources at the Department of Homeland Security who have confirmed that the video is real and was taken recently.

Watch this distressing video that was first posted by Cochise County Sheriff Larry Dever and see how, despite claims by the Administration, the border is far from secure.

(Excerpt) Read more at numbersusa.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: border; criminal; fence; illegal
It should be electrified-dah
1 posted on 02/17/2012 12:15:48 PM PST by GILTN1stborn
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To: GILTN1stborn

Any grunt knows wire is useless unless booby-trapped, mined and covered with crew-served weapons.


2 posted on 02/17/2012 12:17:55 PM PST by Feckless (I was trained by the US << This Tagline Censored by FR >> ain't that irOnic?)
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To: Gosh I love this neighborhood; Mrs. P; surfer; seekthetruth
"The fence shown here was built by the Bush Administration"

No worries! It is Bush's fault

3 posted on 02/17/2012 12:19:33 PM PST by GILTN1stborn (Can you hear me now?)
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To: GILTN1stborn

Pure Silliness. Make better fences.


4 posted on 02/17/2012 12:19:57 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: GILTN1stborn
"...with such flat terrain, this activity could be detected from at least a mile away. But the thousands of agents are nowhere to be found. This video makes a mockery of everything Sec. Napolitano has said about the border. "

It's just too hard.

5 posted on 02/17/2012 12:21:43 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: GILTN1stborn

I want to know who was following them around filming. They obviously started off on the Mexican side and followed them through the fence to the American side.

Where did this film come from?


6 posted on 02/17/2012 12:24:18 PM PST by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: basil
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LARRY A. DEVER COCHISE COUNTY SHERIFF according to Numbers USA article

7 posted on 02/17/2012 12:41:46 PM PST by GILTN1stborn (Can you hear me now?)
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To: GILTN1stborn

Here is the link to the video.

https://www.numbersusa.com/content/nusablog/cchmielenski/february-17-2012/shocking-video-reveals-billion-dollar-border-fence-about-secu


8 posted on 02/17/2012 12:42:15 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: GILTN1stborn

A few tack welds on the US side would have made it harder or impossible to jack the fence section up but then other efforts would have been employed I’d guess.


9 posted on 02/17/2012 12:43:46 PM PST by deport (..............God Bless Texas............)
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To: ansel12; GILTN1stborn; All

Numbers USA?????

Really????

That is an zero-population, GREEN environmental site.

How “authentic” is this Homeland Security film (that was so nicely released by a lefty site)?


10 posted on 02/17/2012 12:46:40 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: GILTN1stborn
"No worries! It is Bush's fault"

The Democrat elite want illegal aliens as future voters.

The Republican elite want illegal aliens as cheap exploitable employees.

It's Obama's fault. It's Bush's fault (1 and 2). It's Clinton's fault. It's Reagan's fault. It's Carter's fault. etc.

11 posted on 02/17/2012 12:47:58 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I didn’t give much thought to who made it or why, to me the point was the cheap simplicity of breaching the fence, and the ability to do it unmolested by border security.


12 posted on 02/17/2012 12:53:18 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Numbersusa has always been an anti immigration site.


13 posted on 02/17/2012 12:53:22 PM PST by omega4179 (Internet ID:FU&#9617;&#BO)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I don’t know who Number USA is, but how can a group that wants to reduce immigration be lefty?


14 posted on 02/17/2012 1:02:52 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

https://www.numbersusa.com/content/about-us.html

They are lefty? Really? I sure never got that impression.


15 posted on 02/17/2012 1:14:47 PM PST by GILTN1stborn (Can you hear me now?)
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To: ansel12; omega4179

It’s a ZERO-immigration group, as in “Population Bomb” Lefty kind of crazy.

The man who nurtured “Numbers USA”

Dr. Tanton founded local chapters of Planned Parenthood and the Sierra Club and became the national president of Zero Population Growth. Unable to interest colleagues in fighting immigration, he formed FAIR in 1979, pledging in his proposal to make it “centrist/liberal in political orientation.”


16 posted on 02/17/2012 1:16:34 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

A lefty site that give Santorium an A rating and Obama an F (failing) rating?

https://www.numbersusa.com/content/action/2012-presidential-hopefuls-immigration-stances.html


17 posted on 02/17/2012 1:16:59 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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18 posted on 02/17/2012 1:20:30 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: thackney

It doesn’t change the facts of what this group is about.


19 posted on 02/17/2012 1:23:17 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Immigration. That is what they are about.

But they are far from a lefty site. The type of rankings are shown in greatly favoring republicans in congress and failing ratings for the majority of the Democrats.

I suspect they gave your favored candidate, (now out of the race) who was also the one I tended to favor, a really bad ranking on immigration.

Everyone who disagrees with you, is not automatically a lefty.

This site is far harder on most democrat positions, and far more approving of republican positions. You need to take off your blinders.

http://www.numbersusa.com/content/my/tools/grades/list/0/RECENT/US/R/Grade/Active

http://www.numbersusa.com/content/my/tools/grades/list/0/RECENT/US/D/Grade/Active

20 posted on 02/17/2012 1:31:02 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: GILTN1stborn

http://www.garretthardinsociety.org/tributes/tr_tanton_2003oct.html

Garrett and Jane Hardin: A Personal Recollection (Hemlock Society adviser to Hardin on FAIR — who with his wife committed suicide)

Tribute to Garrett Hardin - by John H. Tanton, M.D.

My interest in population developed in the late 1950s as I was finishing medical school. By 1975 I had been elected national president of Zero Population Growth, an organization inspired by Paul Ehrlich’s book “The Population Bomb.” Then in the late 1970s the US fertility rate fell to below replacement, and immigration emerged as the main source of domestic population growth. To Garrett’s dismay, ZPG declined to address these new circumstances.

When in 1979 I helped set up the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) to tackle the immigration question, Garrett served from the beginning as an advisor. Later he consented to set aside his aversion to board meetings by joining the FAIR Board. Much of his later writing was on the demographic aspects of immigration and can be found by searching under his name in the archives of a quarterly journal of the immigration reform movement, TheSocialContract.com. The bookstore at this site offers for sale three of Dr. Hardin’s books that the Social Contract Press reprinted: Stalking the Wild Taboo; Mandatory Motherhood: The True Meaning of the Right to Life; and Creative Altruism: Source and Survival. Also available is his The Immigration Dilemma: Avoiding the Tragedy of the Commons, published by FAIR.

It is hard to see one’s friends and people we admire decline physically to the point where they decide to exit this vale of tears felo de se. Garrett’s post polio syndrome had reduced him to using a wheel chair; he could no longer swim well. Macular degeneration cost him the reading vision in his right eye. Life in a nursing home was not an option for this man of letters. Jane had been diagnosed with ALS - amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, Lou Gehrig’s disease, one of the least desirable ways to leave this planet. It worsened. Both were long time members of the Hemlock Society, and decided to take matters into their own hands. This can give us a lot to think about, especially as our own infirmities come to the fore - and since my wife and I live in a state that counts Dr. Jack Kievorkian among its citizens.


21 posted on 02/17/2012 1:32:34 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: thackney

I have not attacked you personally, so I would appreciate the same consideration.


22 posted on 02/17/2012 1:34:25 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I apologize for the assumptions I made.

But regardless of its origins, they are not a lefty site. They promote conservatives and criticize liberal positions in regards to immigration.

23 posted on 02/17/2012 1:37:36 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

So what? What is your hang up about this anti-immigration video?

What is bothering you about illegals being captured on film breaking into America?

Ending mass immigration, and especially illegal mass immigration is noble.


24 posted on 02/17/2012 1:42:06 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: ansel12

I came here when I saw the title and then saw who was putting out the information — Numbers USA and Homeland Security.

Sorry to have invaded your world.

Carry on.


25 posted on 02/17/2012 1:52:44 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Unless Numbers USA is putting out BS-the original video came from the good sheriff. Does it really matter? It simply demonstrates the vulnerability of our borders. That is a truth no one can deny.
26 posted on 02/17/2012 2:02:34 PM PST by GILTN1stborn (Can you hear me now?)
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To: GILTN1stborn

That is a very rugged and strong “Sheep Herder’s” jack, (AKA Handyman or Hi-lift jack) not some cheap bumper jack.


27 posted on 02/17/2012 2:06:01 PM PST by Sea Parrot (You can't fix Stupid, but you can occasionally head it off before it hurts something. --Stephen Adam)
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To: Sea Parrot

We use those jacks to pack 100lb tobacco bales

Great for changing front tires on 150 hp tractors

Definitly not your ordinary car jack but still

crazy how easy to bypass that fence

Early voted today for Santoram..No O in `12


28 posted on 02/17/2012 2:16:34 PM PST by Harold Shea (RVN `70 - `71)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Sure you don’t have Numbers USA confused with another group?


29 posted on 02/17/2012 2:27:07 PM PST by Sea Parrot (You can't fix Stupid, but you can occasionally head it off before it hurts something. --Stephen Adam)
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