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Are Conservatives with Ginsburg or the Founders on the Constitution?
American Thinker ^ | February 18, 2012 | Selwyn Duke

Posted on 02/18/2012 6:02:39 AM PST by Paladins Prayer

When Ruth Bader Ginsburg said in Egypt recently that she "would not look to the U.S. Constitution if [she] were drafting a constitution in the year 2012," it was no surprise. In that the Constitution militates against a nanny state and preserves a status quo, it is by its very nature a conservative document. This is why liberals hate it so. And, as the power of the left grows via their control over the culture, their teeth and contempt for the Constitution are displayed ever more (see Obama, Barack et al.). But what of conservatives?

Some may say that I need not ask; as reflected in the rise of the Tea Party and Ron Paul, constitutionalism is all the rage. In truth, though, while conservatives generally mean well, most just play at constitutionalism.

"What are you talking about, Duke?" you may ask. "I believe in constitutional adherence!" Well, let's conduct a little test. What do you think about Social Security?

Because, you know, it is unconstitutional.

This is where most conservatives will say....

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: conservatives; constitution; ginsburg; liberals
This is so true. I'm so tired of conservatives who preach liberalism and don't even know it.
1 posted on 02/18/2012 6:02:46 AM PST by Paladins Prayer
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To: Paladins Prayer

Three women on the U.S. Supreme Court and all 3 are communists. Nuff said.


2 posted on 02/18/2012 6:05:37 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: Paladins Prayer

Same here. What kind of conservative would support Social security, individual mandates, and socialized education?


3 posted on 02/18/2012 6:06:35 AM PST by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: freedomfiter2

Conservatives are for the constitution, republicans are for Ginsburg.


4 posted on 02/18/2012 6:08:13 AM PST by bigdirty
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To: Paladins Prayer

this is why I no longer call myself a conservative. I have upgraded to small l libertarian... strict constitutionalist.


5 posted on 02/18/2012 6:09:28 AM PST by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: joe fonebone
I have upgraded

From conservative 9.0 to libertarian 1.0?
It took me a loong time to find out I was the caboose to the liberals locomotive...this article gives me a little insight on why.

Alas!...I may have to upgrade too!

6 posted on 02/18/2012 6:20:55 AM PST by Ganndy (Remember November)
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To: Paladins Prayer

Actually, it surprised me that she was so candid.


7 posted on 02/18/2012 6:29:29 AM PST by Savage Beast (The MSM "improves" on truth: hubris, denial, tragedy.)
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To: Paladins Prayer

Conservatives are not defined by what they claim to be.

They are defined by their beliefs and actions.

Many people falsely claim the label of conservative because they don’t want to be labelled as liberal, progressive, or socialist. But they live and vote in decidedly unconservative ways and are not conservative in fact.

Isn’t it interesting that we do see liberals claiming to be conservative but do not see conservatives claiming to be liberals?


8 posted on 02/18/2012 6:31:47 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight he'll just kill you." John Steinbeck)
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To: bigdirty

I’m afraid that you are correct.


9 posted on 02/18/2012 6:32:25 AM PST by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Paladins Prayer

A talk show host read select portions of the South African “constitution”...and it appears to have been written by public school dropouts.

Get a copy and have a laugh.

It says a lot about Ruth Bader whatever Ginsberg.

She is as vapid in the brain as she is ugly on the inside.

Each day, I have less and less respect for both our law practitioners and those schools that claims to have taught them.


10 posted on 02/18/2012 6:53:10 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Paladins Prayer; Beckwith; TigersEye; mojitojoe

This is how fascism comes into the halls of power, usurping the constitution. These three women are so self convinced of their suoperior morality, that they all would use force majeur to impliment it.

The constitution be damned, we are now in an era of holier than thou liberal fascist morality.

And 3 little old ladies claim to pu$$y whip us and rule us on their morality alone.

How much more fascist can it get? Well watch it when they pick up arms and begin to shoot those whom they define as “unhuman.”

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html


11 posted on 02/18/2012 7:01:00 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Candor7

Constitution? We have a Constitution?


12 posted on 02/18/2012 7:22:06 AM PST by CondorFlight (I)
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To: Paladins Prayer

Well to all this I say what the Freakin Hell Choice do we Have? I am 62 years old,when I was 30 years old I went to My accountant and he told me I have to Pay this 15% self Employment tax,better Known as Social Security, and I said I am Paying for My own Retirement Plan and I dont Want to Pay that,He then Just said well Ok how much time to you want to spend in the Big House.
So spare me the Hypocrisy argument,its either you pay or go to Jail,when we have the choice to pay or not then write your story. By this Logic Obama is a Rabid conservative since he is the one Bankrupting social Security Now by starving the Program with his so called Tax Cut and therefore will bring the demise of the Program sooner so you better vote for him


13 posted on 02/18/2012 7:29:33 AM PST by ballplayer
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To: Paladins Prayer

There are so many things that are unconstitutional. I daresay, no President in a hundred years has truly followed it. ALL of them were wrong, as is the vast majority of the country. As an aside, there was a time when this country believed it had to pass an Amendment to ban intoxicants.


14 posted on 02/18/2012 8:27:53 AM PST by PghBaldy (Bart Stupak. Onece again, Obama proves he is not an honest broker. He can't be trusted.)
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To: freedomfiter2

I am afraid Nobody is what they claim to be—nor what others claim to be but an odd mixture of both. Life is not a piano keyboard with everything black and white—but a collage of colors in a tapestry woven in time.


15 posted on 02/18/2012 8:28:58 AM PST by StonyBurk (ring)
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All contributions are for the
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16 posted on 02/18/2012 8:33:55 AM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: CondorFlight

We have a Constitution -sadly it is too often ignored by those sworn to support it -and is no longer taught in too many schools—and often do we hear separation of church and state is in the first amendment —or the first amendment prohibits any religious display on government property? We have a Constitution but like Scriptures the written word is meaningless until it is written on the heart.And one decides it is worth dying to defend.


17 posted on 02/18/2012 8:34:25 AM PST by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: ballplayer
I feel for you. While I agree with the author that the program is unconstitutional, the unconstitutional, illegal actions of the federal government have been relied upon for so long by so many that I do not believe we should restore the constitution in one fell swoop. If we had that power, I would still recommend that it be phased back in, so that people such as yourself would not be harmed for simply having lived a life where they paid their taxes and expected government to honor its obligations.

The reality is, in any event, that we are very unlikely to ever be able to restore a constitutional government upon this degraded remnant of America. The demographics have changed, the culture has been rotted from within, the education system has produced 2 generations of unthinking takers. If we had the most amazing leader you can imagine, and if we did start back on the path of restoring our country to the rule of law, then it would be a long gradual process of taking two steps forward, one step backward, for several generations at least. It would take a commitment by our side to retake command of things like education and news, instead of sitting idly by while we are bombarded daily with the latest outrage. It would take the kind of commitment that the marxists have shown for over 100 years to get to this point of finally breaking down the American spirit, because now you have to change hearts and to do that you have to create minds.

Things like repeal of health care would be easy and would happen quickly. We can lower taxes, reduce regulation and get the country going again. Then, in the same ratcheting way that marxists have, we need to ratchet things back. Remove a socialist program. Then move to the next step.

Things like repeal of social security would take a lot longer, and should happen only after the people have been conditioned to understand that it is illegal, and are prepared to retake responsibility for their own lives. Otherwise, the effort would fail, and we would return to tyrannical rule by the socialists who seek to destroy our system.

18 posted on 02/18/2012 9:08:37 AM PST by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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To: Paladins Prayer

Add the Dept. of Education, no-knock warrants and FedMob drug laws to the list.


19 posted on 02/18/2012 3:30:07 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: freedomfiter2
"What kind of conservative would support Social security, individual mandates, and socialized education?"

None! I think we can all easily agree to that....but when did we stop allowing ourselves (those in power) to be limited? John Adams with the "Alien" and "Sedition" acts, Jefferson with his purchase, Jackson in his answer to Marshall (which I'd have supported, but still) Polk with his acquisitions...on up through Lincoln and FDR when objections were subdued? It has ever been thus. Power corrupts absolutely and no mere document has been able to stop that. All is driven by culture and ours has tanked.

20 posted on 02/18/2012 3:38:58 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Ganndy

come young jedi... join the dark side, and complete your training... :)


21 posted on 02/19/2012 4:34:52 AM PST by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: CondorFlight

Constitution? We have a Constitution?>>>>>>>>>>>>

You are right. Obama and his hoards of liberal fascists call it the U.S. Resititution. They swear their allegience to the U.S. Resitution and to the Nation for which it stands, one nation, divisable at the whim of the latest liberal fascist president,under a president/god.

Obama is merely the first of many liberal fascist presidents, if Obama and the RINOs have their way.
A pox on all of them ....and worse.

A good read:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html


22 posted on 02/19/2012 3:53:15 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Paladins Prayer
Where is the "American Thinker" on the eligibility issue?

Nowhere, like the rest of the gutless cowards.

They have lost all credibility. I won't read a single thing these traitors have to say.

23 posted on 02/19/2012 4:15:02 PM PST by Godebert (NO PERSON EXCEPT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!)
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