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Alarming: In One Week H1N1 Deaths in Mexico Increase by 67 Percent
Hispanically Speaking News ^ | February 18, 2012

Posted on 02/18/2012 6:17:28 PM PST by nickcarraway

The AH1N1 flu virus has left a total of 135 people dead in Mexico so far this year, with the number of fatalities up 67 percent in just one week, according to figures released by the authorities.

The total number of deaths from AH1N1 flu reported by Mexico’s Health Secretariat up to Feb. 9 was 81, with another 54 the following week.

The secretariat said Friday that deaths from the AH1N1 strain of flu from Jan. 1 to Feb. 16 represents 91 percent of the 149 fatalities from the different types of flu now active in the country.

At the same time, 4,440 cases of people infected with the AH1N1 flu virus have been reported in the same period of time, which also represents 91 percent of the total 4,884 flu cases.

Three seasonal flu viruses are currently active in Mexico - AH1N1, AH3N2 and influenza B - but the AH1N1 is by far the most prevalent this year.

The AH1N1 virus broke out in Mexico between March and April 2009, and locally the alert for the disease was in force up to June 29, 2010, by which time some 1,300 deaths had occurred and more than 70,000 people had contracted the disease.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Mexico
KEYWORDS: birdflu; flu; health; mexicanflu; mexico; swineflu
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1 posted on 02/18/2012 6:17:37 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Thank God our border is secure and we don’t have to worry about them tracking it over here.

Oh.

Wait.

Never mind.


2 posted on 02/18/2012 6:27:10 PM PST by Salamander (You don't know what's going on inside of me. You don't wanna know what's running through my mind)
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To: nickcarraway

Mexico is turning into a real hell hole. Drugs, murders, kidnappings, and epidemics. And the ruling classes, whether they call themselves revolutionaries or conservatives, could care less.


3 posted on 02/18/2012 6:31:08 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: nickcarraway
Is Calderon going to put a big sign on the Border facing the USA saying “No More HINI”?

He can make it out of melted down Obama Stimulus Signs. I have no problem with our Government donating the signs. We can get some Illegals to tear them down and drop them off at the Border on their way home.

4 posted on 02/18/2012 6:39:52 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Liberals, Useful Idiots Voting for Useless Idiots...)
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To: nickcarraway

Malnutrition and drug use on a relatively large scale. Mexico may be poised to be the next Haiti.


5 posted on 02/18/2012 6:42:37 PM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Since they are on our border...that’s a scary thought.

But it could very well happen.


6 posted on 02/18/2012 6:45:51 PM PST by berdie
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To: Cicero

Oh Horrors,not H1N1 again,The flu that was going to be the modern day black death.That was going to kill the entire USA unless we forced immunization on everyone.They have cried wolf every year forcing everyone to line up for vaccines.The only benefit I see every year is that the drug companies earn extra money for the placebo they make.


7 posted on 02/18/2012 6:50:09 PM PST by Craftmore
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Bring Out Your Dead

Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.

8 posted on 02/18/2012 6:54:11 PM PST by null and void (Day 1124 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: Craftmore

Well, there was obviously a concerted, over-the-top effort to push the H1N1 business in Obama’s first year, but I think that was designed to force the Senate to confirm Sebelius in a hurry. Because she is totally unqualified for the job, since her only interest in “health” is pushing abortions. The Republicans might have delayed it, but they caved when that “health emergency” suddenly broke in all the media.

A story or two like this is another matter. Just normal MSM exaggeration.


9 posted on 02/18/2012 7:11:58 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero

Influenza is a virulent infectious disease. A “closed border” would not suffice to stop it unless that closure were so severe that no commerce whatsoever could occur between the two nations, even through third countries. And then only maybe. Witness the Spanish Influenza epidemic of 1918 for example. Even now, influenza and related complications still rank among the top ten causes of death in United States of America. (Abortion easily tops the list.)

In any case, the rate of deaths from influenza in Mexico seems compatible with (or lower than) that in the United States of America. No need to panic yet.

And let us not forget that drugs, murders, kidnappings, and epidemics all occur in America too—and not even mostly in Mexican or Mexican-American communities or by Mexican or Mexican-American perpetrators.


10 posted on 02/18/2012 7:23:09 PM PST by dufekin (Stop Obama and the Democrats from making war against the Catholic Church)
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To: null and void; dead
Bring Out Your Dead
Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.


I couldn't resist asking if our fellow esteemed FReeper 'Dead' is on your ping list?

In any event, kindly add me to your list if you would?

Please & Thanx! :)
11 posted on 02/18/2012 7:46:11 PM PST by mkjessup (Let's do to Mitt what his Irish Setter did to him while tied to the roof rack of his station wagon!)
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To: mkjessup

Dead hasn’t asked. You’re added.


12 posted on 02/18/2012 7:48:27 PM PST by null and void (Day 1124 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: nickcarraway

From a negligible number to a negligible number is not alarming, it’s how things go. Random events cluster, in small sample sets clustering causes seemingly large variations from the expected norm. It’s why coin flips don’t break 50-50 until you’ve done it thousands of times. A few more sick people visiting old folks homes 3 weeks ago vs 4 weeks ago could easily explain the “spike”. Life is scary enough without finding stupid reasons to panic.


13 posted on 02/18/2012 7:52:55 PM PST by discostu (How Will I Laugh Tomorrow When I Can't Even Smile Today)
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To: nickcarraway
Do you remember when there was a "Mexican Flu" and Mexico and our government got mad, contacted their left-wing media and squashed the "Mexican Flu" naming of the virus, even though it originated in Mexico? http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/29/world/asia/29swine.html

Oh how, I long for honesty in media.

14 posted on 02/18/2012 9:31:51 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: Salamander
There has been a nasty upper respiratory bug going around San Diego for a month. Recurring fevers, runny noses, coughs. It just hangs on. Early symptoms include a sore throat, but that is gone in a few days.

My wife just reported that the 55 year old mother of one of her police officers died in her sleep. It's too early to have any further information. It concerned her to see people so young dying. It was completely unexpected. I'm 55 too. It strikes home.

15 posted on 02/18/2012 9:37:06 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin

Hubby and I just went through another “WV Crud” about a month and a half ago.

It was this weird, no warning severe chest congestion that _just would not go away_.

No ~other~ symptoms at all.

We’re just now getting past it.


16 posted on 02/18/2012 11:47:59 PM PST by Salamander (You don't know what's going on inside of me. You don't wanna know what's running through my mind)
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To: Salamander
The stuff is hanging on so long that people have little choice but to come to work and just press on. I'm well past the peak symptoms, but I still have problems 35 days after onset. The fever will magically appear after going most of the day symptom free. The "washed out/spacey" feeling really screws with productivity.

Hope you get over it soon.

17 posted on 02/19/2012 12:50:18 AM PST by Myrddin
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Ping.... (Thanks, nully!)


18 posted on 02/19/2012 1:21:46 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Salamander

Is that the one where you cough up green gunk? We have had that out here, and it lingers through a normal course of antibiotics, and seems to come back easily if you are run down.


19 posted on 02/19/2012 1:32:04 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: nickcarraway

It was in 2009 when the H1N1 pandemic swept the globe. Mexico had an alarming rate of 9.62 deaths per million........that’s apocalyptic.


20 posted on 02/19/2012 3:42:56 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (The only solution to this primary is a shoot out! Last person standing picks the candidate)
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To: Hot Tabasco

I hand the H1N1 flu. Never been so sick in my life. Friend of mine was in the ICU with the same thing


21 posted on 02/19/2012 5:22:40 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

I hand the H1N1 flu. Never been so sick in my life. Friend of mine was in the ICU with the same thing


22 posted on 02/19/2012 5:22:51 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum
I hand the H1N1 flu.

I never met even one person who caught it.....who knows, maybe they did catch it but thought it was only a cold.

23 posted on 02/19/2012 5:26:14 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (The only solution to this primary is a shoot out! Last person standing picks the candidate)
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To: redgolum

Me too. It would have killed me but for antibiotics and the fact that I never take them, so they still will work to save me.

On day 4 i had double pneumonia and felt like I was truly dying. Glad I didn’t. But after that, i started supplementing vitamin d and got tested to finally get to a therapeutic dose. I never want to be that sick again.


24 posted on 02/19/2012 5:41:56 AM PST by Yaelle (Go Santorum!)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Thanks for the ping!


25 posted on 02/19/2012 6:34:32 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: nickcarraway

Looks like a petri dish pandemic waiting to happen.

Where did I put my D3?


26 posted on 02/19/2012 6:54:32 AM PST by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Almost looks like somebody is mucking around down there with flu viruses.

Not a good thing.


27 posted on 02/19/2012 6:57:09 AM PST by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Thanks Smokin’


28 posted on 02/19/2012 10:49:45 AM PST by GOPJ (GAS WAS $1.85 per gallon on the day Obama was Inaugurated! - - freeper Gaffer)
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To: Cicero
Mexico is turning into a real hell hole. Drugs, murders, kidnappings, and epidemics.

They're elites care as much as ours...

29 posted on 02/19/2012 10:51:12 AM PST by GOPJ (GAS WAS $1.85 per gallon on the day Obama was Inaugurated! - - freeper Gaffer)
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To: Cicero
Mexico is turning into a real hell hole. Drugs, murders, kidnappings, and epidemics.

Their elites care as much as ours...

30 posted on 02/19/2012 10:51:27 AM PST by GOPJ (GAS WAS $1.85 per gallon on the day Obama was Inaugurated! - - freeper Gaffer)
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To: Salamander

Had something similar this past summer, a head cold then chest congestion that would not go away, broke down and tried the D3 thing, 3-6000 IU daily, it was gone in a week. Kept it up, haven’t had as much as a cold since. Why it works I honestly can’t say, but the cost is minimal, the downside appears to be practically nil, and so I’m sticking with it.


31 posted on 02/19/2012 10:59:35 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Myrddin

The spacey feeling -is- a real drag.

[We’re just eating Mucinex like candy]...:))

Hope you feel better soon, too.


32 posted on 02/19/2012 11:41:54 AM PST by Salamander (You don't know what's going on inside of me. You don't wanna know what's running through my mind)
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I’ve been reading up on flus and emerging diseases since I first heard about SARS; it’s one of my interests.

In the fall of 2009 hub and I took care to avoid catching the swine H1N1 because I knew it did not present like the regular flu. I have asthma and get sicker than other people when I get respiratory ailments.

So, we did get it, from one man who worked on our property for one day with hub. It was the strangest flu I ever had, bar none. Total drugged spaced out feeling as though I was going to die but didn’t care. Could NOT breathe, one day I figured I’d have to call 911 if lungs did not improve; hub was 400 miles away working so could not help. Took me at least one month to sort of recuperate; lung function has been a bit diminished ever since. Swine H1N1 can affect the CNS (note the super drugged out feeling many pepole had with it), cause back, neck pain, vicious headaches, kidney, liver and/or heart problems. Actual brain lesions in some people. Another “funny” thing we both noticed was brain malfunctions for months afterwards - for instance, thinking we said one word but really saying a totally different word, etc.

It was (is?) NOT a regular flu. And the CDC numbers on everything are nothing but cooked books. Many more people died with swine flu than regular flu. The CDC is as untrustworthy as the WHO which is headed by Margaret Chan, a tool of the PRC.


33 posted on 02/19/2012 11:42:11 AM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: null and void; dead
Dead hasn’t asked. You’re added.

Courtesy *PING* to dead.

We're keeping an eye out for you :-)

Cheers!

34 posted on 02/19/2012 12:34:35 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: little jeremiah; shibumi

That is it, exactly.

I almost feel like I’ve got polio or something.

-Everything- aches like hell and I don’t ‘feel like myself’, if that makes sense.

Ordinarily I’m sharp as a razor but now I feel ‘dumbed down’, for the lack of a better term.

Back in ‘93, I got smoke inhalation double pneumonia.
[the incident where one of my dogs saved me by jumping on my chest to ‘bring me back’ after the wood stove back-drafted, filling the house with thick smoke]

I’m very susceptible to bronchitis, pneumonia, etc now because of that.

We didn’t even know what was going on until a friend who lives on the other side of the ridge mentioned to hubby that he and his wife were laid out with the same thing.

I trust the CDC almost as much as I trust our TOTUS.

[I pinged Shibumi because he’s patiently listened to my griping throughout all of this]


35 posted on 02/19/2012 1:14:14 PM PST by Salamander (You don't know what's going on inside of me. You don't wanna know what's running through my mind)
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To: Salamander

I wonder if you’ve got H1N1. Really sounds like it. I had no fever at all, ever. I got kidney involvement (hellish back pain, UTI symptoms), vicious neck/head/shoulder pain and could not use R arm for a long time, so weak it was highly unusual. Started with a spot of sore throat, very specific one spot, and quickly went right into the lungs. No productive cough, it was more like the lungs filled up with liquid. Heart was labored.

How long have you had this?

BTW I treated it with herbs and such, since then I’ve refined treatment protocol and also created some cough syrup/decongest to help the lungs open up. I hope you feel better soon. If you want any herb ideas let me know and I will not be offended if you don’t want any!


36 posted on 02/19/2012 1:20:30 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: RegulatorCountry

I’ve had it twice since New Year’s. Not a fun flu and very different. Seems as though when it incubates, it must effect the circulatory or nervous system. Although your body is normal temperature, you feel like you have hyperthermia and very cold, at your core temperature. Taking a hot shower, turning on the heat for about 90min up to about 90 degrees and still cold. Then it breaks and within a few minutes you feel fine. The following 1-2 days you basically suffer the symptoms of exhaustion from the cold chill. Chest congestion forms, deep, productive cough, easily forms pneumonia, light headedness, poor short term memory, forgetfulness, sometimes acid reflux. Be sure to drink plenty of water.

I’ve known some people who have had it 5 times since Nov.

The chest congestion doesn;t have nasal congestion nor nausea with it, just some productive cough and hoarseness for about a day or two. Symptoms drop off dramatically, but linger for 1-2 weeks.

Not severe enough to miss work, but that is what makes it so dangerous. It spreads and is contagious. I’ve had all the flu shots every year for about the last decade. Didn’t seem to keep this from incubating.

Very widespread in CA. People who haven’t been sick in 7 yrs caught it and still are recuperating.

Every time I feel better it’s gorgeous outside. Everytime we feel symptoms, there happen to be chemtrails outside,..go figure,...no CT here. 8^(


37 posted on 02/19/2012 1:45:21 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Cvengr
From CDC


38 posted on 02/19/2012 2:04:44 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: little jeremiah

“hellish back pain, vicious neck/head/shoulder pain and could not use R arm for a long time, so weak it was highly unusual. No productive cough, it was more like the lungs filled up with liquid. Heart was labored.”

Yup.

I wake up every morning feeling like somebody broke both my shoulders during the night.

It gets somewhat better as the day goes on but starts again the next day.

Weak as a kitten, too.

I’m drinking green tea, hitting the b vitamins like mad and taking turmeric.

Most herbs I can’t take, possibly due to hay fever issue.


39 posted on 02/19/2012 3:11:55 PM PST by Salamander (You don't know what's going on inside of me. You don't wanna know what's running through my mind)
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To: Smokin' Joe

That’s the problem...I’m not coughing up *anything*.

I assume the Mucinex liquifies it enough that it just reabsorbs or something.

If I ~were~ coughing up the gunk, I’d be a lot happier camper.


40 posted on 02/19/2012 3:14:46 PM PST by Salamander (You don't know what's going on inside of me. You don't wanna know what's running through my mind)
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To: RegulatorCountry

And here I am with a ton of ultra D3 in the cupboard!

I used to take it religiously for its great antioxidant results but just sort of fell away from it.

Thanks RC!

/runs off to gulp D3

:)


41 posted on 02/19/2012 3:17:06 PM PST by Salamander (You don't know what's going on inside of me. You don't wanna know what's running through my mind)
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To: Salamander

I did a lot with essential oils like Eucalyptus and others that help open the respiratory passages (like Fir, Spruce, Camphor, etc). I’d make a bowl of very hot water, drop in the EO mix, breathe in the steam, etc. Also taking wash cloths, putting them in the water with EOs, placing on back alternating with upper chest, and covering up in between, and re-applying as soon as the slightly start to cool a teeny bit, is very helpful for breaking up crap in the lungs so you can cough it out.

Later, I was coughing crap out for months. Take it very easy so your energy can get used for healing. It really sounds like swine H1N1. People did get it twice, even in 2009-2010, I’m pretty sure I did. If it starts up again (and sounds as though it is), I’m going into serious hermitess mode. Even more than usual, and that’s something.

Traditions say do not drink or eat anything cold, as that stagnates stuff more in lungs and so on, hot spicey things like ginger tea, honey is also good for liquifying stuff to get it out and drying it up, black pepper too. Soups with hot spices in them. Orange juice aggravates congestion but hot lemade, esp with grated peel, is anti-viral and good. Grate only org. peel though, they dunk citrus in some nasty stuff.


42 posted on 02/19/2012 4:15:11 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: Salamander
I noticed the "end" of the acute phase included "ropy" sputum. What seems to have helped most is adding another 5000 IU D3 with a 400 mg magnesium to my evening mix of 800 mg ibuprofen, 20 mg famotidine and 50 mg diphenhydramine (benedryl). The morning 5000 IU D3 is mixed with the 10000 IU vitamin A. I recently learned that the vitamin A will inactivate the D3. That's when I added the evening D3. Improvement followed, but the stuff continues to hang on. I'll be feeling perfectly fine and the fever will pounce on me out of nowhere. The sniffles are persistent too.
43 posted on 02/20/2012 9:46:40 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: Smokin' Joe

Should be this evening.


44 posted on 02/20/2012 9:56:32 AM PST by FrogMom (There is no such thing as an honest democrat!)
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To: Smokin' Joe

That’s interesting. That “should be this evening” was for a different thread, I hadn’t even opened this one, yet.


45 posted on 02/20/2012 11:32:07 AM PST by FrogMom (There is no such thing as an honest democrat!)
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To: Salamander

The effect of D3 that I noticed first, I can only compare to Mucinex. The deepseated congestion started breaking loose and coming out.

I started cautiously on 3,000 IU, and worked my way up to 6,000, a level I’ve never exceeded. I only go there when I’m feeling subpar, the daily “dose” is 3,000. It’s worked for me thus far, whatever the reason.


46 posted on 02/20/2012 6:13:06 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: nickcarraway

Mark for later.


47 posted on 02/20/2012 6:17:57 PM PST by Czar (NRA Life Member)
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To: nickcarraway

Mark for later.


48 posted on 02/22/2012 3:18:16 PM PST by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: nickcarraway

Not sure if I’m on your ping list but if not please add me.
Thanks.


49 posted on 02/25/2012 12:40:37 PM PST by georgiabelle
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To: nickcarraway; neverdem; ProtectOurFreedom; Mother Abigail; EBH; vetvetdoug; Smokin' Joe; ...
Bird Flu Pandemic Just "Three Mutations" Away, Scientists Show
50 posted on 06/25/2012 4:11:57 PM PDT by ex-Texan ((Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20))
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