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Going green will cost California more green
Sacramento Bee ^ | 2/19/12 | Dan Walters

Posted on 02/19/2012 7:41:33 AM PST by SmithL

The state of California has made a full-blown commitment to reducing reliance on fossil-fuel energy and other limited resources.

Utilities are required to use solar, wind and geothermal sources for a third of their electricity supply by 2020, while owners of homes and businesses are being urged to install solar panels.

The state is mandating that automakers dramatically ramp up sales of battery-powered and other low-emission cars. It is imposing new cap-and-trade emission controls on business with hefty fees.

Essentially, the state is trying to force California into an entirely new economic structure, claiming, in Gov. Jerry Brown's words, that "California is positioned perfectly to reap the economic benefits that will inevitably flow."

But what of the costs?

Those cap-and-trade fees will add tens, if not hundreds, of billions of dollars in costs to California business. There's a feeding frenzy beginning in the Capitol over how to spend the windfall, although the Legislature's budget analyst warns that the legal options are limited.

The state's three largest utilities recently filed policy papers with the state Energy Commission about the impact of green conversion on consumers' power rates that are already among the nation's highest.

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: ab32; california; capandtrade; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; goldenstate; moonbeam; taxandspend; yourtaxdollarsatwork

1 posted on 02/19/2012 7:41:39 AM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL

Really dumb !


2 posted on 02/19/2012 7:44:34 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Beware the Sweater Vest)
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To: SmithL
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3 posted on 02/19/2012 7:47:51 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: SmithL
Those cap-and-trade fees will add tens, if not hundreds, of billions of dollars in costs to California business. There's a feeding frenzy beginning in the Capitol over how to spend the windfall

The Late Great State of California.

4 posted on 02/19/2012 7:50:18 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: SmithL

Let California show the nation how commit economic suicide before we all do it.


5 posted on 02/19/2012 7:51:06 AM PST by AU72
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To: SmithL

The biggest savings will come from people leaving the state.


6 posted on 02/19/2012 7:53:56 AM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: AU72
Let California show the nation how commit economic suicide before we all do it.

That's how this whole system was designed to work. Let the states be laboratories for ideas. Then the citizens of other states can decide which ideas to pursue or ignore for themselves.

You'd think with all the vaunted Colleges and Universities we have in this state, not to mention the obscene amounts of money we throw at primary and secondary education, we'd be smarter than this.

But, no.

7 posted on 02/19/2012 7:57:14 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: SmithL

California Country Club Democrats -

“Aren’t the beaches lovely without all the riff-raff around. Boy, there’s a dog turd over there! Pick it up and throw it into Arizona. Can we tax dogs?”


8 posted on 02/19/2012 7:58:38 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: SmithL
Interesting info from the "Comments" section:

"It's the law that appointments to the CARB Scientific Review Panel are supposed to be for just 3 years, to introduce new ideas into the process and try to prevent ossified junk science group think and religious zealotry from turning CARB into a terrorist hit squad bent on destroying the California economy. (...yeah, how's that working out?)

John Froines has been allowed to sit on the panel for 26 years, and remains there still, according to the CARB website.

So who is John Froines?

Abbie Hoffman, Jerry Rubin, David Dellinger, Tom Hayden, Rennie Davis, Lee Weiner and JOHN FROINES, The Chicago Seven, were charged with conspiracy, inciting to riot and other offenses for their activities at the 1968 democratic convention in Chicago. Froines, the chemist, was charged with with making incendiary devices. Then he decided to dedicate his time to revolutionary causes including “link[ing] up with the Black Panther Party … to build a revolutionary movement to end American imperialism.”

So this domestic terrorist Froines is running environmental policy in California. Any question about why these policies are so destructive?"

9 posted on 02/19/2012 8:08:29 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: SmithL
If one ever wants to see what communism is like, come to the land of full fledged communists soil. We have the most restrictive unconstitutional piece of land in the entire United States.
10 posted on 02/19/2012 8:26:26 AM PST by Logical me
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11 posted on 02/19/2012 8:29:17 AM PST by twistedwrench
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To: blueunicorn6
Can we tax dogs?

Already do. And cost hundreds to own a dog in license, shots required, etc, etc.

12 posted on 02/19/2012 8:29:58 AM PST by Logical me
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To: SmithL

Gov. Jerry Brown’s words, that “California is positioned perfectly to reap the economic benefits that will inevitably flow.”
Unicorns to be loaded with gold will be sent to every home.


13 posted on 02/19/2012 8:31:51 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: SmithL

So many of the state’s politicians have investments in China. They travel to China all the time and they give China state business.

These politicians approve cap and trade because it kills California’s economic competitiveness with countries like China because China is exempt from cap and trade policies.

This scheme is from the WTO and World Bank who have pledged to use ‘first world’ economies to ‘raise the boats’ of what they call ‘least developed countries’ which include China.

If you think what happens in the WTO and World Bank is outside the realm of California politics, think again. Remember Karly Fiornia, so called republican candidate for Governor? She worked for the World Bank after getting kicked out of Hewlett Packard. The World Bank has a bigger hand in California politics than you may think.


14 posted on 02/19/2012 8:42:06 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: SmithL
NOGREEN
15 posted on 02/19/2012 8:43:51 AM PST by FrankR (You are only enslaved to the extent of the entitlements you receive.)
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To: Vaduz
California is perfectly positioned to hog a lot of perfectly useful coastline we could use for modern port facilities.

Because those ports are so highly valued Mexico is actually building them. International Freight Containers will be offloaded in Mexico, transhipped by rail to the American Midwest, and California will be left pristine and pure, and abandoned.

That's happening right now.

As almost anybody in Afghanistan could tell you when you are dumped off the main currents of world trade, that's where you're at !

16 posted on 02/19/2012 8:52:34 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks SmithL.


17 posted on 02/19/2012 9:01:56 AM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: Logical me

One of my dogs is 9.....so.....let’s see.....each dog year equals 7 people years.....9 times 7.....carry the 8.....well....I don’t do arithmetic on Sunday morning.....but I’m pretty sure he’s eligible for that early social security money.


18 posted on 02/19/2012 9:03:40 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: muawiyah

That’s happening right now.
I don’t think the unions would rip up the rail system among other items.
But your right abour Ca. giving every thing to Mexico.


19 posted on 02/19/2012 9:04:50 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: Vaduz
California was a stupendously large Spanish backwater until it turned into an equally stupendously large Mexican backwater.

Nothing happened there until Americans arrived.

It will eventually return to being a stupendously large Mexican backwater once all the Americans leave, and that is happening.

20 posted on 02/19/2012 9:12:03 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Texas Eagle
It seems like a lot of these state and local government copy each other. But it's always to increase government power and so tyranny and to hurt the economy. Some government goons pass something like banning fast food places near schools and then others follow suit.
21 posted on 02/19/2012 10:14:03 AM PST by Democrat_media (China is destroying all our jobs and manufacturing ability. China makes everything.)
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Tired of the disruptions?


22 posted on 02/19/2012 10:48:55 AM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: SmithL

From the hyperlinked article: “....But high-mileage cars have just as much impact on pavement and congestion as gas-guzzlers.......”

Perhaps the weight of the batteries, the electric motor, as well the gasoline engine add considerably to the weight factor of these Greenmobiles sufficiently to state they are more onerous than the “gas guzzlers” to our highway maintenance.


23 posted on 02/19/2012 11:22:48 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: SmithL

If all goes well, I will be retired and gone from California by 2020. I’m stuck here until retirement (what idiot would quit a secure job in an economic depression that could last until 2020!). After that, I’m gone.

I don’t understand the mentality of any conservative who plans to stay in California and go down with the ship, unless your income stream is just so huge that you would be slaughtered by leaving. OK, then I could see staying. I wouldn’t. Not and face the idiot laws like bullet IDs and teaching faggotry in schools and banning plastic bags. But at least I would understand someone staying here for big bucks until retirement.

Those of you conservatives who plan to stay and retire in California, you are the ones who have me baffled. I can’t begin to fathom why you don’t plan to sell your homes for what you can get for them and move back to the USA.

I hate this communist, anti-military, anti-religion, pro-faggot, anti-family, pro-bum state. I can’t flee the People’s Democratic Republic of California fast enough.


24 posted on 02/19/2012 3:03:24 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Priority 1: REPEAL OBAMACARE)
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To: Madame Dufarge

1968 is really about the timeframe when the nation turned the big corner on its on-going descent into hell.


25 posted on 02/19/2012 3:16:20 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Priority 1: REPEAL OBAMACARE)
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To: SmithL
Those cap-and-trade fees will add tens, if not hundreds, of billions of dollars in costs to California business. There's a feeding frenzy beginning in the Capitol over how to spend the windfall..

And that, of course, is what it's all about.

Run, don't walk.
Don't be "the last white farmer in Zimbabwe".

(And last to leave, please blow out the candle.)

26 posted on 02/19/2012 3:16:50 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: muawiyah

Agree and it’s doing so at a high rate of speed.


27 posted on 02/20/2012 4:14:55 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

Yep, it’s when the moonbats began their great leap forward.


28 posted on 02/20/2012 9:20:10 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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