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Sierra snowpack study instantly attacked because it undermines AGW claims
PJ Tatler ^ | February 15, 2012

Posted on 02/19/2012 9:58:25 AM PST by QT3.14

If you want a prototypical example of how climate science has ceased being true science and instead become little more than an ideological battleground, look no further than a study released yesterday showing that, contrary to earlier claims, global warming has had zero effect on the depth of the snowpack in the Sierra Nevada mountain range...

(Excerpt) Read more at pjmedia.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: climate; climatechange; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; hoax; manbearpig; weather

Globaloney Warming? This from the article:

"....This is more likely: When old data confirms your thesis of global warming, then it is accepted as valid;
but when old data undermines your thesis of global warming, then it is rejected."Simple.

How about the current matter going on with Ice Station Zebra Europe

Speaking of Europe, WW2 historians also point out around December 1944 the snow and bitter cold was the worst in 40 years when the German's launched Operation Nordwind at the border of Germany and France.

1 posted on 02/19/2012 9:58:34 AM PST by QT3.14
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To: QT3.14
I knew a vet who was at Bastogne during that same time. He said he'd never been so cold in his entire life, and never wanted to be again.
2 posted on 02/19/2012 10:03:33 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: QT3.14
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3 posted on 02/19/2012 10:06:31 AM PST by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: QT3.14
...a study released yesterday showing that, contrary to earlier claims, global warming has had zero effect on the depth of the snowpack in the Sierra Nevada mountain range...

LOL! Looks like the snowpack deniers are going to have some 'splainin' to do. Being an enviroloonie can be a tough gig. Once a hoax and scam is exposed, it's all down hill from there.

4 posted on 02/19/2012 10:08:46 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (You can only shovel so much crap into a melting pot before you have nothing but a pot full of crap.)
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To: QT3.14

These global warming people must be refugees form the “Flat Earth Society” that got humiliated at science proving the earth was not flat so they jumped on the global warming cult.


5 posted on 02/19/2012 10:10:44 AM PST by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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To: mountainlion
...got humiliated at science proving the earth was not flat so they jumped on the global warming cult.

Likely it was the so-called scientists on the 1970's "The Ice Age Is Coming" scare tactic.

6 posted on 02/19/2012 10:18:46 AM PST by QT3.14 (European-American)
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To: QT3.14

Anm ICE AGE is definitely coming. It’s just like “Globull Warming”. It’s positively coming, just no one has any idea when.


7 posted on 02/19/2012 10:32:24 AM PST by snowtigger (.)
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To: QT3.14
At least the 1970s ice agers used science and did not have to make props made form false information to create a hoax of global warming.
8 posted on 02/19/2012 10:55:36 AM PST by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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To: QT3.14
"For one, he said, snow depth is not as good a measure of the winter weather conditions as water content and density."

LOL, they don't call it Sierra Cement for nothing.

9 posted on 02/19/2012 11:02:14 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2
"Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory scientists, have concluded that 60 percent of that downward trend is due to greenhouse gases."

LOL, the pugilist Ben Santer works there. Of course CO2 is the reason, what else could it be?

10 posted on 02/19/2012 11:05:01 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2
"been declines in spring snowpack"

Spring Snowpack is not the same as total seasonal snowfall.

11 posted on 02/19/2012 11:06:47 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: mountainlion

Exluding satellite pictures from space, what evidence is there that the earth is not flat? What is your first hand experience that the earth is not flat? I’m serious.


12 posted on 02/19/2012 11:16:26 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Ceterum autem censeo, Obama delenda est.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
I have flown at high altitude form Viet Nam to Germany and have seen the curvature of the earth. I have flown as far south as Australia and seen the stars seem to rise in the sky. If the earth was flat the stars would stay in the same latitude. But then on the other hand I have been to North Dakota where earth fell away and looked flat with no mountains or trees.
13 posted on 02/19/2012 11:21:06 AM PST by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
Ships going hull down over the horizon.

The fact that you can't see across Lake Michigan unless in a plane.

The fact that you can't see Russia from Wasilla.

14 posted on 02/19/2012 12:23:58 PM PST by Paladin2
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15 posted on 02/19/2012 1:42:39 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Going across the bridge part of the Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel and seeing the road ahead curve downward slightly as it went off into the distance.


16 posted on 02/19/2012 1:50:32 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
Why do ships disappear bottom first when sailing away, rather than just shrink in scale till no longer visible?

What about people who've circumnavigated the Earth? Are they all lying? Plus, if the Earth is flat, there should be pairs of places you can't get to without traveling in what would seem like the "wrong" direction, like you might have to fly over New York and Europe to get to the Philippines from Hawaii. Where are those "you can't get there from here" pairs of locations?

Where do the polar ice caps come from if the Earth is flat? Why does the sun come only 38 degrees above the horizon on June 21 in Anchorage, but almost overhead in Miami? Come to think of it, if you place a call to Miami when it's noon in Anchorage, why do they insist it's 3pm?

17 posted on 02/19/2012 2:19:18 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Still Thinking

Erps, meant to say “4pm” in Miami at noon in Anchorage.

Also, depending on where the edge is, it should play havoc with expected propagation of seismic waves and tsunamis. There would have to be a discontinuity somewhere that would lead to results unexpected by “round earthers”.


18 posted on 02/19/2012 2:26:33 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Noon shadow lengths/sun angle at various latitudes on the same day.


19 posted on 02/19/2012 4:00:02 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (If their "Alternative" actually works, the Greenies will proceed to kill it.)
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To: Paladin2
Spring Snowpack is not the same as total seasonal snowfall.

The selection of that metric no doubt being due to the "Sort through this mountain of data, find something cold that there's less of, and well use that for our data point" method of "research".

20 posted on 02/19/2012 7:32:18 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: ApplegateRanch

Demonination of latitudes assumes, a priori, that the earth is round.


21 posted on 02/20/2012 3:26:53 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Ceterum autem censeo, Obama delenda est.)
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