Posted on 02/19/2012 11:01:13 AM PST by Syncro
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This is one of the most important political issues on the scene at this time.
Obama and the Chicago Crime & Thug Political Union Machine is involved up to their eyeballs.
Obama even recently was in the area taking credit for all the things that Governor Walker has done to improve the economy that Present Obama has been working relentlessly to destroy.
A Democratic appointed judge that was supported by AFL-CIO South Federation of Labor and the Madison Teachers Union has denied Gov. Scott Walker the time to verify the recall petitions submitted by the unions and liberal left that are trying to oust him. He essentially ruled that the Recall was inevitable and that we should not waste time actually verifying signatures.
Just like I said ... Obama will use rules and legal challenges to control the recall process.
The descent into tyranny is slippery and steep slope.
Snot this judge have recused himself from this case? I believe Governor Walker has a good case to appeal this decision. My prayers are with Governor Walker.
Should not
Actually, I like your abbreviation better!
SNOT this judge... worked pretty well also!
It appears the ‘RAT “judge” thinks that the recall must go on even if it has been corrupted by the communist ‘RATS and their union thugs.
Oh yea SOP.
They counted the votes for the diaper clad SNL candidate over and over until they “found” enough for Franken to be ahead. And then stopped counting.
Cheating is a way of life for leftist.
What does it take to impeach and remove a judge who does not know and will not apply the law?
There is obvious room for appeal here, and any recall election should be suspended until this point is cleared up. To be valid, the “recall petitions” MUST be verified, otherwise they are so many scraps of paper, with no more meaning than discarded McDonald wrappers.
What does it take to impeach and remove a judge who does not know and will not apply the law?
There is obvious room for appeal here, and any recall election should be suspended until this point is cleared up. To be valid, the “recall petitions” MUST be verified, otherwise they are so many scraps of paper, with no more meaning than discarded McDonald wrappers.
Outrageous!
I truly believe there is only one way out.....and it isn’t pretty.
Find a judge who is not on the union payroll. Surely there must be one in WI.
Appeal the decision and keep kicking it up (stated by a non-attorney who has no idea whether or not this is possible).
It will be inevitable when the process is proven to be legal, and the requirements are met.
It is this judge’s duty to ensure that laws and regulations are adhered to in a legal manner.
He should thus be removed from his position. This has become political rather than legal, and he has disqualified himself.
Walkers campaign argued it had only reviewed 330,000 of the roughly 1 million signatures and couldnt get through all of them by the Feb. 27 deadline.
Please volunteer for a few hours via the link in the article.
Conservatives are the antithesis to the Republican party leaders.
That's why it is up to us, Conservatives and the TPM to do something about this.
More threads on the subject:
Pro-Walker signature verification effort needs your help this weekend
I hotlinked that thread along with a couple of others in the post just below yours.
Wisconsin those bastards! ping!
Unfortunately in this day and political age it is easier to remove a Conservative from a political position by hanging a gang of false charges on him/her, then it is to remove a proven corrupt leftist political operative at any level.
Wonder how many times the judge’s signature appears on the petition?
I think every signature should be counted...oh wait, that only qualifies for votes in democrat attempts to undermine the system.
I am sick and tired of these lefty judges always supporting the lefty case. Well, if there is a recall election, go back and stick it up their combined backsides and win it. In fact, what is the law for removing judges? Stop being Mr. nice guy, when you get the power remove the opposition, the dems have no problem doing that.
If the GOP indeed does not come to the aid of Gov Walker here, they have to go too, either the RINOs or take out the party in toto as something useless.
I have been entering signatures online today for Verify The Recall and working on verifying them at the local RNC Center in the evenings. (Work full time in the day). It does feel like we are trying to swim upstream against evil politicians and judges. But I refuse to give up until the fat lady sings.
EPH. 6:13 Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand firm.
Now, I know that I have a minority opinion here, but we should not get out knickers in a twist over this.
They have twice as many signatures as they need. Unless 50% are fraudulent (and if the fraud rate were 50% on the ones already checked, we would have heard bout it), there is going to be a recall.
Why do we want to fight a protracted battle with the RATs only to have them win?
Our strategy for the recall should be “bring it on, the sooner the better.”
We know who our candidate is, the Dems still have to sort that out. The polls are in our favor, we want the election soon. Time can only work against us.
Walker needs to drop all objections and get moving. Take the highest projected fraud rate he can find in the signatures released to him, and make a campaign issue of of that.
His reforms are already working. Campaign on the victories so far and hit them hard.
Thank you for all you are doing...............
I agree Syncro. Sad isn’t it...
I don't think that is true, (or why would they insist that Mickey Mouse and Hitler remain as valid signatures?) put up some stats if you are confident of your statement.
Thanks for all the work you are doing on this Wisconsinlady!
This further illustrates the urgent need to put Newt in the White House.
“No Matter How The People Vote There Will Always Be A Federal Judge To Over Turn It”
One thing I learned from participating in Operation Chaos in Texas is that even the powerful, much-feared Clinton Machine wasn’t prepared for the Obama Machine’s legal maneuvering at the caucuses. They simply had no idea what hit them. So if the Clinton Machine didn’t see it coming, I don’t expect the GOP-e to see it either.
Here is one small example:
The Obama campaign filed such a large number of legal challenges to Clinton delegates at my Senatorial District caucus that it would have taken the caucus attendees until midnight to review and resolve the challenges before beginning the actual caucus. (We arrived at 8:00 AM on a Saturday.) The Clinton campaign had filed legal challenges only to obviously fraudulent Obama delegates. So their number of challenges was much smaller. I think the ratio was 4 challenges by Obama to every 1 by Clinton.
In order to move the caucus forward and not keep a thousand delegates and alternates until well into the morning hours of the next day (Sunday,) the Obama legal team offered a settlement to the Clinton legal team. Obama would accept 50% of the delegate challenges as valid if the Clinton campaign would do the same. The Clinton campaign agreed. So Hillary ended up losing far more delegates than Obama.
And guess what happened when there weren’t enough Clinton delegates and alternates to fill the number of delegte spots allocated to Clinton for a particular precinct? The Obama alternates got to fill those spots. And of course they voted for Obama instead of Clinton once the caucus began.
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The Wisc Supreme Court has more Walker allies than the RATS do. So maybe there is hope?
Try reading at this link: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/18/us-recall-wisconsin-idUSTRE81H03X20120218
" Recall organizers needed to collect 540,208 valid signatures to force a recall of the governor."
"According to the motion Walker's lawyers filed with the court, the campaign has examined about 25 percent of the petition pages and have found problems with up to 20 percent of them."
"At that rate, given the estimated one million signatures, Walker's campaign would not have enough challenges to thwart a recall election."
They really don't have a prayer of invalidating enough signatures to prevent a recall.
So,what do you do when the Philistines are massing their armies near your encampment? Why, you gird up your loins and prepare for battle. Right now we are in a better position than they are, take advantage of it.
“This further illustrates the urgent need to put Newt in the White House.”
It sure as hell does.
Amen. He's the only candidate who's talked about the urgent need for judicial accountability and the re-balancing of the co-equal powers as specified in our Constitution.
Not being emotional here, but scaling back the “achievement” of the recall petition effort is very worthwhile. Also, take a look at Sen Fitzergald petition results...
http://www.truethevote.org/reports/project-summary-fitzgerald.pdf
The results for this senate district are that nearly 50 percent of the signatures are challengable.
15254 eligible out of 34915 signatures.
So no, they do not have twice as many signatures as they need.
How many sigs on a page? 20% of PAGES have problems, that could be many signatures per page, or maybe all of them.
Remember ACORN tactics, having one guy sign up 90 times.
It's a worthwhile effort fer sure
Being a concerned outsider, the get out the vote effort must be vigilant...for if the people of Wisconsin support the Governor, then all of this will be shown as the scam that it is....
15254 eligible out of 34915 signatures.
You are mis-interpreting the data presented.
On page 4 of the report you link, indeed there were 34915 records processed, but 15509 of these records were blank lines, that no one is counting.
The reality is that there were 15,254 valid signatures, 525 ineligible signatures, and 3358 "signatures for further investigation".
Now even if we are successful in all of the challenges to the "signatures for further investigation" that would be only 20% invalid signatures.
If we assume the sample is large enough to be statistically significant, being able to throw out ~50% of the 1,000,000 raw signatures presented is extraordinarily unlikely.
No matter how much you might wish it, we are not going to get out of having a recall election. Lets spend our energy on something to better our chances in the election, instead of chasing impossible dreams of invalidating so many signatures.
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To me, the results are so unpromising that I don't think we can even make a campaign issue of of them. The reality is that only 525 of 19k signatures were invalid on their face, and I suspect that most of the 3358 will ultimately prove to be valid.
No these are just petition signatures, not fraudulent votes, and I suspect the average voter will see this as no big deal.
Face the reality that there are enough union members, families of union members, and flaming liberals in WI to force a recall. There are more than enough good people to elect Walker again, if we get mobilized and start campaigning now, instead of pretending we will pull a legal rabbit out of a hat, and sitting on our collective duffs until we prove we can't pull the rabbit out.
Those signatures migt be legitimate:
Mickey Mouse would be in favor of the recall because he is Mickey Mouse
and Adolf Hitler would favor the recall because he is Adolf Hitler.
But they are in effect boasting about the 34 thousand (or for Walker 1 million). This is their ‘great success’. Even you say there are twice as many as required.
I never expected to stop Walker’s recall. I still hope to a large number of duplicates signatures for Walker’s petition because they hate him so much. Deflating their balloon is worth it.
You’re right. Our first line of defense isn’t going to hold. We need to win the election again and then get rid of these recall provisions. They’re a recipe for tyranny.
migt = might
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