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Paul Babeu Embroiled in Scandal
abc ^ | 2/19/12 | staff

Posted on 02/19/2012 2:24:14 PM PST by Mikey_1962

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To: Norm Lenhart

I believe the agenda the media pushes involving homosexuality has hurt America and hurt other homosexuals who just want to live their lives and not bother anyone.

The image of sex in general that the entertainment media has been pushing has hurt America. Sex lasts what ? 10 minutes. They make it seem like its everything. all life is worth. its garbage

If you want to go by stats, there are more straight people living screwed up unhealthy sexual lifestyles as there are gay people. it is what it is.


51 posted on 02/19/2012 8:29:21 PM PST by se_ohio_young_conservative
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

How about the stats showing the AIDS deaths that last more than 10 min.

Seriously, you aren’t critically thinking this through. Their push for 10 min of sex has resulted in millions of deaths, Trillions in economic damage and a restructuring of 5000 years of societal norms for ‘rights’ concerning ‘10 min of sex’.

Look at this critically. Take the blinders off and analyze what Homosexuals with power have wrought on the planet.

Your argument consists of “Straights are screwed up too”.


52 posted on 02/19/2012 8:44:40 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Normie: Wandering Druid, Cult of Palin)
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Good grief, what an enigma.

Quick poll:
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Assuming the reports are true, how would you order the following given Babeu's projected Conservative image, and his position on illegal immigration? The most egregious being the first, the least the last. Omit the items you don't want to comment on:
53 posted on 02/19/2012 8:46:17 PM PST by Gene Eric (Newt/Sarah 2012)
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To: Gene Eric

1 concealing the homosexuality (Just like a Lib - He lied for power/benefit)

2 sexually exploiting an illegal alien (Just evil on every possible level)

3 the risque sexual lifestyle (Direct effect on his professional/governmental function as Sheriff)


54 posted on 02/19/2012 8:56:22 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Normie: Wandering Druid, Cult of Palin)
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To: Semper911

If people who supported him last week knew then that he was a homosexual with an illegal Mexican “boyfriend” they might have dropped their support sooner.


55 posted on 02/19/2012 9:04:31 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Thanks!


56 posted on 02/19/2012 9:13:23 PM PST by Gene Eric (Newt/Sarah 2012)
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To: little jeremiah

The Mexican had a visa; everyone is jumping to conclusions without having all the facts.

He has a stellar record as sheriff. Look at his Facebook page; he still has a lot of support in AZ.


57 posted on 02/19/2012 9:14:46 PM PST by DLfromthedesert
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To: DLfromthedesert

Post 42 awaits an answer.


58 posted on 02/19/2012 9:19:14 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Normie: Wandering Druid, Cult of Palin)
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To: DLfromthedesert

One article I read today said that Babeau theatened the MX ex sex partner with deportation. So just having a visa doesn’t necessarily mean “legal”.

Plus, homosexuality is a mental and character disorder, County Sheriffs ought not to have grave character flaws, what to speak of mental illness.

I don’t care if he won all kinds of popularity contests.


59 posted on 02/19/2012 11:34:04 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: Norm Lenhart; DLfromthedesert

Your comments are excellent and true. Ping me if DLfromthedesert answers you.


60 posted on 02/19/2012 11:54:57 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: tophat9000

Well I’m posting from Homestead as I speak, lol. Do you ever go to O’Shay’s? (shameless plug....my youngest is waitressing there).

Mrs. Prince of Space


61 posted on 02/20/2012 2:22:04 AM PST by Prince of Space (Obama cares a lot about the poor. In fact, he wants to make more of them.)
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To: TigersEye

Do you honestly think Babeu talks like that, in an ESL type of communication? Apparently the boyfriend does, since I read some of his quotes and texts....but Paul, an American from Massachusetts??!? “And you say you have loved me? Papi, this is no good.” Or “you can never have business after this....” I really don’t trust these allegations, especially coming from PNT. He admitted he’s gay but denied the other charges, BTW.

Mrs. Prince of Space


62 posted on 02/20/2012 2:34:38 AM PST by Prince of Space (Obama cares a lot about the poor. In fact, he wants to make more of them.)
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To: Prince of Space

Yes I do....


63 posted on 02/20/2012 5:05:54 AM PST by tophat9000 (American is Barack Oaken)
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To: tophat9000

My daughter usually works the day shift there. Her name is Killoran, although her nickname is “Kill,” at least among her friends, lol.


64 posted on 02/20/2012 6:02:27 AM PST by Prince of Space (Obama cares a lot about the poor. In fact, he wants to make more of them.)
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To: little jeremiah; Norm Lenhart

I disagree with your premise that if one is homosexual that automatically he cannot be conservative. I know several who are both.

Babeu has done great work in his sheriff role, and I do not believe the allegations made against him in a liberal rag.

They do the same to black conservatives, or do you think that, too, is an oxymoron?


65 posted on 02/20/2012 8:14:05 AM PST by DLfromthedesert
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To: DLfromthedesert

Sheriff Babeu stated that the whole article was untrue; only fact was true that he is gay.

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As I said, I no longer believe anything out of the LSM. Nothing.

Homosexuality and pedophilia are used to manipulate the masses.... just like they were in old Commie Russia. So if the LSM says it, it is more often than not a lie, or a half-truth.


66 posted on 02/20/2012 9:29:24 AM PST by Chickensoup (In the 20th century 200 million people were killed by their own governments.)
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To: Prince of Space

I have no idea what he talks like but I don’t see any threat to deport Jose in that. Do you?


67 posted on 02/20/2012 2:36:20 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: DLfromthedesert

http://media.phoenixnewtimes.com/7645572.28.jpg

Strange, I never once saw Reagan publicly list his penis size. Nor any other actual ‘in word and deed’ conservative.

You have resorted to the liberal talking point of comparing homosexuality to black Americans. Black people cannot stop being black, nor are they remotely relevant to this discussion... unless they are gay. But that’s not why you brought it up.

Perhaps you should reconsider what being a conservative actually means. It does not mean ‘Gay is OK’ just because one has homosexual associates. Being homosexual is at direct odds with the core conservative concept of ‘man and woman’, AKA Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.

GOProud tried the ‘We’re conservative too” crap. They nearly destroyed CPAC. But rather than “accepting my premise”, which is rock solid, you should work on accepting reality. As Lincoln put it “Calling a tail a leg does not make it one.” Nor does calling a Homosexual a Conservative.

My God man, this is Free Republic, not DU.


68 posted on 02/20/2012 2:54:26 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Normie: Wandering Druid, Cult of Palin)
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To: DLfromthedesert; Norm Lenhart

“Conservative” includes “conservative” values that by definition exclude promotion of homosexuality. Babeau wasn’t a discreet homosexual, that’s obvious.


69 posted on 02/20/2012 3:27:47 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: TigersEye

I saw in another article that the Mexican ex-sex partner said that Babeau threatened to have him deported if he went public with the sex connection. I’ve read about 4 articles, not all on FR. The Mex. was here on a visa, haven’t read whether he overstayed it or not; if there was a threat to depart, then he must be illegal, but I’d like to have more verification of that. If the Mex is illegal, than Babeau is being a hypocrite of the first order.


70 posted on 02/20/2012 3:40:13 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: little jeremiah

You ever notice that every time someone rides to the defense of an outed homosexual or an open one that gets caught in some scandal or other that ‘their’ friend isn’t like every other homosexual on the planet - that they are somehow unique and don’t follow or participate in the ‘lifestyle’ etc?

I find that rather odd. I mean, if all those homosexuals, pure as the driven snow, no doubt, were such fine, upstanding and “conservative’ citizens, surely the rate of STDs in their world wouldn’t dwarf that of the hetro world. Yet it does.

Surely the number of sex partners would not dwarf those of hetros. Yet it does.

Surely the instances of pedophilia would not dwarf those in the hetro world. Yet they do.

Surely they wouldn’t lie to cover their ‘lifestyle’ to get benefits otherwise denied them by law. Yet they do.

Surely they would not put up a public front regarding their sex practices to falsely gain the trust of their voters. Yet they do.

I know one thing for sure. Anyone running for or currently in a public office who openly trolls/advertizes for “F-buddies” online does not have the common sense God gave a dung beetle. How freaking much of a moron do you have to be to claim the moral authority of a County Sheriff, while operating as an active participant in a world filled with vice.

Whether or not he actually threatened the former ‘friend’ isn’t the biggest problem. The fact he lied by omission to his voters is.

And worst of all is that in light of all the above, people are willing to excuse such moronic and contrary to his oath as a LEO behavior and defend him - as a conservative no less.

If this is what we have come to as a movement, then we are in dire straits indeed.


71 posted on 02/20/2012 3:53:03 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Normie: Wandering Druid, Cult of Palin)
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To: omega4179

No, it is not this guy. He may be a Romney supporting gay guy, but he never picked on Palin.


72 posted on 02/20/2012 3:54:41 PM PST by dforest
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

This guys problem is what he was hiding. And you are spot on that the most nasty dressing down and homophobia would come from the left.

And so it has...


73 posted on 02/20/2012 3:58:07 PM PST by dforest
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To: goat granny

Not “former” politician...running for Congress.


74 posted on 02/20/2012 4:03:05 PM PST by Cyber Liberty ("If the past sits in judgment on the present, the future will be lost." --Winston Churchill)
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To: little jeremiah
The accusation of threatening to deport the guy has been in every story. That's basically what the story is about. So far this is all I have seen to back the accusation up.

post #48

I don't see a threat to deport him there. Apparently Jose was on CNN this morning saying he is here legally. If true what weight would the threat have and why would anyone make it?

On the other hand; if he is here illegally why is he still here? Now that this has all gone public there's no need for Babeu's input anymore. Put Jose's arse on a bus headed south!

75 posted on 02/20/2012 4:07:35 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: little jeremiah

Another thing I should have pointed out.

In various threads, it has been pointed out that the DSM once listed, and society has long known, that homosexuality is a mental disorder.

Right until liberal academia loaded the APA with homosexual psychologist/psychiatrists. Suddenly, in a rabidly and obviously agenda driven move bu the homosexual ‘lobby’, it was a perfectly normal thing.

These same people recently held the ‘reported on FR but not much elsewhere’ conference saying that pedos shouldn’t be criminalized.

When we unknowingly elect homosexuals to office, when those elected officials then appoint homosexual board members, judges and other persons to positions of power, is it really so shocking that they then regulate. educate and legislate to the benefit of their fellow homosexuals and the determent of hetro/christian society?

Again, Homosexuals have to lie to get what they want. And it just kills me that people here refuse to think the issue through in a critical and logical manner. One need only look at California’s gay marriage battle, Bradley Manning, or the ultimate result of burying the truth about AIDS to see what happens when homosexuals are put in power.

And look at our military and what gays in power there have wrought.

Why in the name of sanity and rational thought would anyone willingly consent to that? To elect it? To defend it? Everyone screams bloody murder about how screwed up society is, but when a not insignificant portion of ‘why’ stands up and sings loudly, few people will take any notice at all.

/rant.


76 posted on 02/20/2012 4:24:53 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Normie: Wandering Druid, Cult of Palin)
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To: Norm Lenhart; AFA-Michigan; Abathar; Absolutely Nobama; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; Antoninus; ...
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I haven't pinged out any of the articles about Babeau's homosexuality until now, but now; Norm Lenhart's comments sum it up precisely. If Babeau had kept his sexual perversion to himself and no one knew about it, then we couldn't care about it. But since homosexuality is by definition a mental illness and grave character defect, as well as immoral and unhealthy, practicing homosexuals should not be in such public positions, and this is a colorful illustration exactly why.

Norm Lenhart makes so many good points, his entire comments on this thread deserve to be read, I will just copy this one part, which I have noticed over and over again in those trying to push the homosexual agenda under the radar on FR:

You ever notice that every time someone rides to the defense of an outed homosexual or an open one that gets caught in some scandal or other that ‘their’ friend isn’t like every other homosexual on the planet - that they are somehow unique and don’t follow or participate in the ‘lifestyle’ etc?

77 posted on 02/20/2012 5:06:32 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: Cyber Liberty

He won’t win now.


78 posted on 02/20/2012 5:07:38 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: TigersEye

It will be very difficult to ascertain the facts now. The MSM likes Babeau’s homosexuality; don’t like his public stand on illegals; so they are in a huge quandary! They’re probably running around like chickens with no heads wondering what tack to take.


79 posted on 02/20/2012 5:09:09 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Everything you say is correct. And when homosexuals get in positions of influence, they do exactly as you say - they do everything within their power to promote the “gay” agenda, hiring, appointing, creating sensitivity/etc boards, agendas and so on. For 2% or less of the population they wield tremendous power.

The real question is WHY.

1. Those already in positions of power are morally corrupt one way or another.

2. Others who are not morally corrupt are moral cowards.

3. Those of the public who should have spoken up were cowards.

I can’t see any other option. I will not shut up though, and the more of us who see the truth and start shouting louder and louder - well, at least we know we’ve done whatever we can do. I’d rather have my conscience peaceful even if my small contribution doesn’t have much effect. Sooner or later truth will win. A disgustingly corrupt, venal and perverted country will collapse, and we can start again.


80 posted on 02/20/2012 5:16:02 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: little jeremiah
I think you may have found the one good thing about this story. Lib heads exploding! lol

That and the fact that it was a left-wing rag that outed him. They're such haterz!

81 posted on 02/20/2012 5:17:18 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: little jeremiah

Yeah, extorting your illegal alien homosexual lover, then posting pics on the internet, puts a kink in the hose, doesn’t it? Good. I am tired of deeply flawed candidates. I’m tired of having to defend people who dip their wicks in disgusting places.


82 posted on 02/20/2012 5:22:22 PM PST by Cyber Liberty ("If the past sits in judgment on the present, the future will be lost." --Winston Churchill)
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To: TigersEye; jimbo123

You’d think they’d be happy about Babeau and supportive and all that.

Shows how tortured their own consciences are.

Oh, did you see this, comment #17. Romney is pro-homo agenda, and Drudge is a homosexual, and now they want to find “homo dirt” on Republicans. Talk about schizophrenic.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2848952/posts?page=78#78


jimbo123: Exactly. Matt Rhoades and Matt Drudge have been gathering homo dirt on the state GOP leaders for the past 4 years to make sure Romney wins in a brokered convention.


83 posted on 02/20/2012 5:23:51 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: Cyber Liberty

I’m at the point where I think that randomly picking out citizens from a phone book would result in better public officials. I remember when they were called “public servants” - I was about to use that phrase and realized how far we’ve fallen...

Or heck, even pulling “Will Work For Food” bums off the street.


84 posted on 02/20/2012 5:30:12 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: little jeremiah

Trying to hold to and defend liberal views inevitably leads to cognitive dissonance. Facts and logic are toxic to their world.


85 posted on 02/20/2012 5:33:10 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Yankee

Babeu has actually been tough on crime and strong on illegal immigration.


LOL Yea move out of MA, say the right thing once in power , get on TV once in power , say the right words and the right will lap it all up and all this time he was another infiltrator saying the right things but got caught just before he could or might have been elected thank goodness.

Typical and I see MA has been sending it’;s biggest export out to the country yet again

Question is how many of these lot do we have lurking in the GOP saying the right things but waiting to get elected to pass the queer agenda?


86 posted on 02/20/2012 5:37:09 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman,It's not a conservative view but a true American view)
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To: Semper911

because many who want to infiltrate the GOP can say the right things and many on our side lap it up but putting that aside.

People , conservatives are seeing that the man is a fraud and he is not the man some thought he was.

He was and is a fraud , being with an illegal while B/Sing on illegal immigration .

The GOP is dead


87 posted on 02/20/2012 5:39:21 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman,It's not a conservative view but a true American view)
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To: TigersEye

Classic Orwellian “Doublethink”

Hold to contradictory positions and believe both to be true.

1984 is the how to guide for the left. More people are starting to see that, thank God, but it may be too late at this point.


88 posted on 02/20/2012 5:39:21 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Normie: Wandering Druid, Cult of Palin)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Edit “TWO” contrary positions...grrrr...


89 posted on 02/20/2012 5:41:45 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Normie: Wandering Druid, Cult of Palin)
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To: DLfromthedesert

he;s hardly a conservative if he supports the queer agenda and is doing what he did.

TO ALL

Is this how pathetic our side has become that we can just have anyone come in, make some right wing speeches and think they are conservative.
Heck how about looking at who people really are and hey this man was a fraud, a phony and nothing conservative about him it seems

As for his FB, big deal , all the homo’s about will be supporting him just like the left loons will.

The man is done, if people wanted Weiner out then they should be shouting for this man to be out too, he is an embarrassment to himself, to the law and to the vase and the GOP.

It seems some would support anyone if they make a good speech and maybe have met him or have supported him and can’t say they were duped


90 posted on 02/20/2012 5:44:13 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman,It's not a conservative view but a true American view)
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To: little jeremiah
I’m at the point where I think that randomly picking out citizens from a phone book would result in better public officials.

Google "representation by lot." William F Buckley once proposed he'd rather be represented by the first batch of people in a telephone book than by the faculty of Harvard.

Quote here.

91 posted on 02/20/2012 5:46:55 PM PST by Cyber Liberty ("If the past sits in judgment on the present, the future will be lost." --Winston Churchill)
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To: little jeremiah

Thanks for the kudos ;)

Honestly though, I didn’t say anything we don’t all know. The only difference is that I simply thought critically about it and brought some related thoughts together.

But the MSM with all their screams of ‘homophobia’ and related bs do everything to make sure that we the peons never make those kind of connections. And when we do, to discredit them ASAP.

Same goes for the ‘lobby’ and their ...’conservative’ supporters in the ranks. Any communistic/fascistic group fears a thinking opposition.

Another point to ponder...
There is no practical/functional/tactical difference between CAIR and the homosexual lobby.


92 posted on 02/20/2012 5:48:45 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Normie: Wandering Druid, Cult of Palin)
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To: Norm Lenhart

seems some are so stubborn that they cannot admit they were duped.

supporting the queer agenda is not republican let alone conservative and yet a couple seem to think that the GOP should change their platform because they know personally a couple of queers.

No wonder this election is a mess when certain republicans as they are not conservative state they have no problem with the queer agenda.

The man has become an embarrassment to all including himself.
The way he has conducted himself is sick but to hear a couple who claim to be conservative on here now try and fend this but I am betting that they wanted Weiner out for those photo’s.


93 posted on 02/20/2012 5:48:45 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman,It's not a conservative view but a true American view)
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To: Norm Lenhart
Classic Orwellian “Doublethink” Hold to contradictory positions and believe both to be true.

Therein lies one of the keys to defeating them if you can get a logical fact-based argument in front of them in a way that puts them on the spot to respond. The MSM propaganda machine is their main defense providing insulation from being put in that position. The MSM Fifth Column is still a big problem in spite of "alternative" media.

94 posted on 02/20/2012 5:53:21 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Norm Lenhart
something else too. This man moved from MA, got in power down in AZ, said the right things which people wanted to hear on our side in AZ, took their money, and now it comes out how he was acting and was a fraud. Now why the hell is anyone trying to defend this guy this fraud, this phony, ? Also we were lucky to have got this before he was elected otherwise the queer agenda would have gone on and on with another vote , but how many has the homosexual lot put into the GOP in places running to pass their agenda? The man has shown bad judgement disregard for the law, used his position for his own personal advancement and now has been shown to be a fraud, an infiltrator, a phony from MA etc That in itself shows he is not fit to be the sheriff let alone run for office and certainly not as a republican
95 posted on 02/20/2012 5:54:41 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman,It's not a conservative view but a true American view)
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To: Norm Lenhart
'To' actually worked just fine grammatically in that sentence. lol

In any case I got it.

96 posted on 02/20/2012 5:55:04 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye

I never back away from any lefty and when I do confront them and pose questions they are stunned as they have to think, once they become aware that they have no answers and that their view is a little whacky with no facts they resort to insults but only once they get to a safe distance or in the car to drive away quick like the cowards they are.

For instance I’m not religious that much but d say my prayers as does my kids.

Yesterday I saw a little girl with a shirt at my kids soccer game saying God make me the best I can but the word God was crossed out.

I did not say anything tot he little girl as it was not her fault but watched to see who her parents were, I found them.

I stood next to them and said if a kid had a shirt saying abortion is murder or straight and proud would you get upset.

They looked at me and said that would be insulting, that would cause trouble and that would be making trouble and using your child.

I pointed out how their child had the slogan on and it was what they said, i.e. using their child etc

They told me that it was different bla bla

Really how I asked.

They looked stunned, got in their car and sat there form the rest of the game.

Idiots


97 posted on 02/20/2012 6:01:19 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman,It's not a conservative view but a true American view)
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To: little jeremiah
my oldest son aged 14 now well he would be a better staunch republican, actually he gave a speech to a history club and was told he should think about running once he get solder as he would do better than what we have and he knows more about the issues and the constitution than most we have running or leading right now
98 posted on 02/20/2012 6:03:59 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman,It's not a conservative view but a true American view)
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To: manc

Whether actual ‘homosexual or ‘homophile’ the damage they do is the same. When CAIR runs around screaming islamophobia and having laws created to further their own ends, it’s the same as GLADD and the other Homosexual groups. Their ‘needs wants and desires get the grease’ ours and little things like our rights, the Constitution and thousands of years of reality are sacrificed.

I so want to see why those into BDSM, which is practiced by every bit as many people as homosexuality, are not given the same rights and protections as ‘gays’. Why one sex practice and not another? Why is only homosexual sex deserving of glorification and special status?

Let GLADD et all explain that honestly and in public.


99 posted on 02/20/2012 6:07:25 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Normie: Wandering Druid, Cult of Palin)
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To: manc

I can’t talk to liberals. Just can’t take their cognitive dissonance or their self righteous attitudes. If they brought to me I would give it right back in spades but they never do. I guess I don’t look approachable.


100 posted on 02/20/2012 6:07:55 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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