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U.S., Britain urge Israel not to attack Iran
haaretz.com ^ | 2/19/12 | AP

Posted on 02/19/2012 4:46:31 PM PST by ColdOne

The U.S. and Britain on Sunday urged Israel not to attack Iran's nuclear program as the White House's national security adviser arrived in the region, reflecting growing international jitters that the Israelis are poised to strike.

In their warnings, both the U.S. joint chiefs of staff, Gen. Martin Dempsey, and British Foreign Minister William Hague said an Israeli attack on Iran would have grave consequences for the entire region and urged Israel to give international sanctions against Iran more time to work. Dempsey said an Israeli attack is "not prudent," and Hague said it would not be "a wise thing."

(Excerpt) Read more at haaretz.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: bombbombbombbombiran; britain4again; neveragain; obama4again

1 posted on 02/19/2012 4:46:36 PM PST by ColdOne
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To: ColdOne

“The U.S. should be helping the Israelis deter Iran’s further nuclear advance by helping them to scare the Iranians into thinking that an attack is coming. Instead, the Obama administration is doing everything possible to telegraph to Iran that we’re terrified of a conflict and are doing everything to prevent it. That’s exactly the same as inviting the Iranians to continue their pursuit of nuclear weapons. If there is an explanation for this, other than incompetence, I would love to know it.”

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/291452/asking-israel-not-attack-iran-mario-loyola


2 posted on 02/19/2012 4:49:23 PM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: ColdOne

Israel to US & UK: “So, which one of you two will man up and take care of the problem?”


3 posted on 02/19/2012 4:49:44 PM PST by BwanaNdege (Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: ColdOne

Israel will be the one that is attacked by Iran,Syria, Egypt... Then all hell will break loose. This will form a new nation called Syrian.


4 posted on 02/19/2012 4:51:20 PM PST by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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To: BwanaNdege

One cannot help but feel that Obama has decided it would
be better for Israel to be decimated rather than see
a wider war in the middle east. After all, Iran says
their research is for peaceful purposes. /s


5 posted on 02/19/2012 4:54:37 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: ColdOne
U.S., Britain urge Israel not to attack Iran

I don't believe that for a second. Obama, especially, would love to see the Iranian "problem" gone and if the Israelis got themselves wiped off the map as a consequence, it would only be a fringe benefit in his view.

6 posted on 02/19/2012 4:56:04 PM PST by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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7 posted on 02/19/2012 4:58:54 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: jiggyboy

From your linked article:

“The only thing that is going to stop the Iranians is the fear of a military attack. The U.S. should be helping the Israelis deter Iran’s further nuclear advance by helping them to scare the Iranians into thinking that an attack is coming. “

Better yet, put the fear of targeted assassinations into the heads of Iran’s current leadership. Offer them front of the line tickets to a fire sale of 72 virgins in “paradise”.


8 posted on 02/19/2012 4:59:08 PM PST by BwanaNdege (Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks ColdOne.


9 posted on 02/19/2012 4:59:41 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: jiggyboy
If there is an explanation for this, other than incompetence, I would love to know it.”

The explanation is quite simple. It's the same reason that the Obama regime supported every instance of the so-called "arab spring" revolutions EXCEPT one... When there was tremendous unrest in Iran, the US (and behind us, the rest of the Western World) the US SHOULD HAVE supported regime change in Iran. With the exception of the mullahs who run the government and the secret police who control Iran with an iron fist, Iran is a mostly secular, well educated, NON-ARAB country. But Obama knew that by leaving the mullahs in place, there will be plenty of state support for terrorism in the rest of the middle east. He also sees Iran's current leadership as the best hope for a sheite, anti-American caliphate in the middle east, which will also help rid the world of Israel, and in his dearest dreams, rid the world of Jews and Christians too.

Mark

10 posted on 02/19/2012 5:00:00 PM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: ColdOne
U.S., Britain urge Israel not to attack Iran

I don't believe that for a second. Obama, especially, would love to see the Iranian "problem" gone and if the Israelis got themselves wiped off the map as a consequence, it would only be a fringe benefit in his view.

11 posted on 02/19/2012 5:02:40 PM PST by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: ColdOne
Trying to save obummers October surprise!
12 posted on 02/19/2012 5:05:18 PM PST by org.whodat (Sorry bill, I should never have made all those jokes about you and Lewinsky, have fun.)
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To: ColdOne

Wouldn’t be prudent? I thought old man Bush was retired.

England is sucking up since Iran cut off their oil sales. If any of the free world had any balls they’d all be taking the damned oil.


13 posted on 02/19/2012 5:23:13 PM PST by Terry Mross (Difference between a conservative / liberal-obvious. Difference between a rep and a dem? None)
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To: tet68

Whatever happens to Israel happens to modern western man, be it Europe or North America.


14 posted on 02/19/2012 5:25:14 PM PST by himno hero (Obamas theme...Death to America...The crusaders will pay!)
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To: ColdOne

As if Israel will listen to the perfidious UK, to decide what’s the best for its security.

Generally speaking, many Israelis hate Great Britain, who put them in concentration camps, after they escaped from nazi death camps in 1945 ...


15 posted on 02/19/2012 5:27:57 PM PST by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: ColdOne

I wonder if we moved Gen. Dempsey and Minister Hague and all of their loved ones to Israel on a permanent basis if they would still feel it wasn’t prudent.


16 posted on 02/19/2012 5:35:59 PM PST by RedWhiteAndBlueBlood
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To: ColdOne
"In their warnings," a moment of spontaneous, compulsive honesty, "both the U.S. joint chiefs of staff, Gen. Martin Dempsey, and British Foreign Minister William Hague said an Israeli attack on Iran would have grave consequences for" prices of freight fuel for foreign communist imports to the USA and UK "the entire region and urged Israel to give international sanctions against Iran more time to work." wait until Iran launches nukes.


17 posted on 02/19/2012 5:40:45 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: ColdOne
The U.S. and Britain on Sunday urged Israel not to attack Iran's nuclear program as the White House's national security adviser arrived in the region, reflecting growing international jitters that the Israelis are poised to strike.

The Israelis did the entire world an enormous favor by ignoring what the world wanted when they destroyed Iraq's nuclear program. Sad to say, I trust Israel to make the right call here far more than I do the current US president or Secretary of State.
18 posted on 02/19/2012 5:44:46 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: jiggyboy

Gen. Martin Dempsey is an absolutely ninny. How did we end up with wusses like this in the highest rank of the U.S. Military? AP is quoting him as saying, “Iran is a rational character” - yeah, the mullahs are rational! /sarc


19 posted on 02/19/2012 7:10:45 PM PST by Tzfat
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20 posted on 02/19/2012 7:49:13 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: ColdOne

Israel must and will act to survive. I would encourage them to reveal nothing to the Obammy moslem sympathizer doubledealin communist at 1600 Penn.

Israel Strike and Strike Hard, do not let the beast ever again rise. Your actions will be in doing that which is commanded you and from which other nations cower, and will lead the world to a peace at least in our time with the smack down/elimination of the moslem devil.

Many here seek and pray for your complete triumph, and yours alone a satisfying victory. Call on us in this country. Be bold, be courageous, and see now to the survival of your people.


21 posted on 02/19/2012 8:57:38 PM PST by whistleduck
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To: Marguerite

No, most Israelis dont hate Britain, just bigots like you.

And it was the British who liberated Jews from camps like Belsen. And the Jews we barred from Palestine were mainly held in camps in Italy.

What was our thanks for liberating Jews and defeating Nazism?. Three years of terrorism from the Irgun and the Stern gang, who murdered and maimed hundreds of British soldiers and civilians and many of their own Jewish brethern in their bombing campaign from 1944 to 1948. Even kindapping two British soldiers, torturing them to death, and boobytrapping their bodies. The Stern gang even murdered the Swedish count, Folke Bernadotte, who had saved tens of thousands of Jews in Hungary during the war.

Yet, for the disgusting acts of those two groups, do the majority of the British people hate Israel?. No, only the minority who are extremist Muslim, hardleft pro-palestinians or extreme right wing racist bigots like the BNP or Combat 18.


22 posted on 02/20/2012 1:28:08 AM PST by the scotsman (I)
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To: the scotsman
You don't even know what are you talking about.

The Jews arriving after the war from ruined Europe were intercepted by British naval forces. British authorities held Jewish immigrants in detention camps on Cyprus from 1946 to 1949. This policy was part of an effort to deter Jewish immigration to Palestine, under British control, as was Cyprus. During that time over 53,000 Jews passed through the barbed wire camps, held against their will.

British documents about those camps were kept secret as classified documents for 60 whopping years; secrecy agreements prevented British employees from speaking out. After 60 years many of these documents have been declassified. Documentation is now available. Check them out (Google is your friend).

Jewish refugees in a Cyprus detention camp protest the restrictive British policy on immigration, Cyprus, 1946.

The “Exodus 1947,” a ship filled with Jewish Holocaust survivors who wanted to immigrate to Palestine, after it was seized by the British Navy in a deadly struggle at sea in July, 1947.

British detention camps for Jews in Cyprus, 1945-1949 Don't you ever tell me about your truth" again, ignoramus. One of my aunt with her whole family were held prisoners there.

23 posted on 02/20/2012 2:18:47 AM PST by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: Marguerite; the scotsman

I saw on the news today that it was the 70th anniversary of the start of the Japanese interment in the U.S. I have no idea of the comparison of conditions between the Jews and the Japanese, but from what I can tell the Japanese don’t hate Americans. (Well, most of them were and are Americans as well....)

But thanks to both of you on your posts. I did a search on the gangs - interesting stuff, fighting the Brits before WWII to get them out of Palestine. And thanks for the old photos - amazing that they were freed, and then stuck behind barbed wire again.


24 posted on 02/20/2012 2:42:26 AM PST by 21twelve
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To: ColdOne

Hey Bibi,
Tell the U.S. and the Britts to pound sand then turn around and pound iran.


25 posted on 02/20/2012 3:43:24 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: Marguerite

‘You don’t even know what are you talking about’.

Oh, I do. I am British, the nephew of a British soldier who served in Palestine 1945-47, and I am a history graduate who has studied that period. Elutheria5 and I regularly argue on FR about this period.

You said the Jews were held in concentration camps they had just left. As I pointed out that was not true. You are correct that the Jewish refugees were held in Cyprus and as I said also Italy. Some were held back in Austria and Germany. To suggest the British put them back in the type of murder camp is a very crude accusation and frankly shameful.

Just remember who fought Nazism from the start of ww2. Just remember the 300000 men and women from the UK and Ireland who died so your relatives could live and be free. Just remember the British set up a Jewish Brigade to fight, not the US or France or Canada. Instead of attacking Britain, frankly a little thanks might be nice.

I notice you ignored my substantial reference to the two Jewish/Zionist terrorist gangs. Elutheria5 sees them as heroes. Needless to say, I see them as terrorists and no different to the IRA.

I would actually like to discuss this without you and I calling each other insulting names. Is that possible?.


26 posted on 02/20/2012 6:40:46 AM PST by the scotsman (I)
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To: the scotsman

They didn’t die for Jews. Just another lie.

The San Remo Conference decided on April 24, 1920 to assign the Mandate for Palestine under the League of Nations to Britain: “The Mandatory shall be responsible for placing the country under such political, administrative and economic conditions as will secure the establishment of the Jewish national home”.

http://wwi.lib.byu.edu/index.php/San_Remo_Convention

If the freaking Brits kept their promise given in 1920, hundreds of thousands, if not MILLIONS Jews could had escaped the nazi extermination, by leaving Europe for Israel.

But , hey, when did the Brits respect their signature? As soon as they landed there, started coddling with Arabs, carved 3/4 of the Mandate territory to give it to an Arab Hashemite “princelet” as booty - TransJordan, and named him “king”. Not only that but the British adm. had forbidden the Jews to live on the Eastern side of the river Jourdain.

It was thus that the British Empire implemented the nazi dream of “Judenrein” (a land without Jews), before Hitler.

To make the things worse, they reduced the Jewish immigration to a trickle, but never the Arabs’ immigration from Lebanon, Syria, Egypt (among whom a certain Egyptian citizen named ... Arafat). During World War II, many Jews were fleeing Germany and its occupied territories, many attempting to enter the British Mandate of Palestine, despite tight restrictions on Jewish immigration established by the British in 1939. Many of these would-be immigrants were caught and rounded up into detention camps.

More than that, when the Jews revolted against the Arabs’ pogroms and the British complacent attitude towards it, the British military hang dozens of Jewish patriots. From that point in history , the open war between the British and Jews carried on, until May 1948, when Albion left forever.

There is no love left between Israel and Great Britain, and anybody can understand why.

So don’t tell me that Israel has to take into account what the UK tells it to do or not to do. UK was never Israel’s ally or friend. Never. The best they could do was to allow two British Muslims to go to Israel and blow themselves up, making dozens of casualties ...


27 posted on 02/20/2012 7:19:19 AM PST by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: jiggyboy
Conspiracy mode:
Obama wants Israel to take care of Iran's nuclear problem. This will protect the US and the Sunni nations militarily. The US economy is doing worse than the regime will admitt, Teh Eurozone is crumbling only faster than China's housing bubble. The reverberations will hit us in the summer or fall and doom his re-election chances if nothing is done. However, if he can blame the problems on Iran and Netanyahu, he can try to avoid blame. He is re-elected, the world hates Jews, and the Sunni Islamist revolution goes unabetted as we help the Muslim Brotherhood take Syria and encircle Israel. Next stop Jordan.

But I'm not a conspiracy type.

28 posted on 02/21/2012 12:25:17 AM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: the scotsman

From 1923, Britain conspired to prevent a Jewish state. It restricted Jewish immigration, with Arabist officers fomenting and aiding Islamic Jihad and nationalist revolts as an excuse to curtail Jewish migration and increase Arab migration.


29 posted on 02/21/2012 12:30:45 AM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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