Skip to comments.Warning: Photo may disturb some readers; photo of lion trophy sparks debate over legal hunting
Posted on 02/20/2012 8:01:49 AM PST by SmithL
The divide between those who live in rural areas and those from cities ruptured wide this past weekend across America in a debate over a provocative photo of California Fish and Game Commission President Dan Richards and a huge mountain lion he shot legally after an 8-hour hunt in Idaho.
Some comments on Facebook suggest that Richards should be the one hunted and shot, that he should be jailed, that is unethical to shoot anything you do not eat, and hunting of any kind is barbaric.
Most from rural backgrounds would see nothing wrong with the photo. Mountain lions are predators that kill lots of deer and other animals, including house pets and farm animals, and fewer of them means more of just about everything else. Same with coyotes. Since the hunt occurred in Idaho, where mountain lion hunting is legal, there was nothing illegal about anything Richards did.
The photo first appeared in Western Outdoor News at http://www.wonews.com/Blog.aspx?id=1646 as an innocuous sidebar to a column post by Paul Lebowitz, 2010 California Outdoor Writer of the Year. The Humane Society of the United States, an anti-hunting organization, then copied and circulated the photo around the country.
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Thanks for shooting it!
Thanks for shooting it!
That dang kitten did not get that big on a suburban chic vegan diet! Lots of people’s private property made that kitty trophy size.
Funny, I can think of many targets to hunt in SF!
This photo disturbs me! It promotes deep feelings of jealousy!
Should make a nice rug!
He should not have shot it. He should have caught it and then released it at the headquarters of the Humane Society of the United States or PETA’s.
If only there was an open season on SF pedophiles.
I want to hunt and shoot liberals, then pose like this guy.
This photo disturbs me. . .it reminds me that I’m sitting in an office in front of my computer screen wishing I was out in nature with a gun, a bow and a fishing rod.
BTW, it is illegal to kill these cats in CA.
I’ll probably get some flack for this, but I think trophy hunting is worthless. If you’re going to hunt, don’t just take an animal’s life for no reason other than your own vanity. That’s really all trophy hunting is, an expression of vanity, which is a sin.
If you’re gonna hunt, put the animal to use and eat the damn thing.
Your common house cat would probably view you differently if it was that size too. None of this messing around rubbing on ankles to get a treat. You would BE the treat.
My theory is keep your business off facebook. You will be happier and nosy people can fret about other people.
The comments bashing this on other sites just go to show the depth of the stupidity and ignorance rampant in this country today.
Hunting is a fine pastime, and any thinking meat-eater should realize that an animal that lives a wild, free life and is then harvested by a hunter had it much better than an animal that was raised on a factory farm, then slaughtered. Further, wild animals typically don’t die nice, painless deaths. A clean kill from a hunter’s weapon is much preferable to starvation or being eaten alive by a pack of wolves.
Also I have to say...NICE cougar! :-)
P.S. I hope any of you supporting the “Humane Society”...stop.
The ex-kitty would make an awesome rug. Would that count?
Why the hell would that disturb anyone? I was expecting its head to be half blown off from the headline. It looks like the guy is holding a teddy bear.
KIlling animals is part of being human. Killing DANGEROUS animals even more so. These ninnies need to get on with life and quit wringing their hands over nothing.
Purdy cat. Wouldn’t mind having a trophy like that.
Why don't photos of politicians and other tyranny-related shots ever come with this kind of warning?
The largest "humane society" of the USA, the HSUS, has a philosophy that animals shouldn't really even be pets or zoo exhibits, but it is grudgingly tolerated for the better good of the critters. They try to do with honey what PETA tries to do with vinegar, but it's crazy in both cases. The ASPCA is a much more reliable and pet-friendly organization. Local "humane societies" may also not share the anti-pet views of the HSUS.
No you don't. You never want a liberal that close to your face. That mountain lion subsisted on wild game and got a lot of exercise. There's a far smaller chance of catching some loathsome illness from hugging a dead mountain lion than a liberal.
Some think that mountain lions are a threatened or endangered species. They are neither. Wildlife biologists say that lions are healthy and abundant in much of California. Mountain lions are rather a specially protected species in California by a law created by a voters initiative, not by wildlife biologists.Like Cap & Trade, this law exists solely to make Californians feel superior and more enlightened.
If the commissioner pushed for this law in California and then went and hunted in Idaho in a way that would be forbidden by this law in California, he’s a big hypocrite. But maybe he has nothing to do with the law except being stuck with having to enforce it in California.
I doubt it would taste good. Perhaps he can give it to some Chinese restaurant.
It's more like pest control. That cat is a predator that reduces the supply of game deer for hunters, as well as killing livestock, pets, and the occasional human.
That would indeed be a way to keep Chinese restaurants in a copious supply of cat, without offending too many people.
POST OF THE DAY!!;)
Fair enough on the pest control factor. If the mountain lion numbers are a problem and it is deemed the numbers need to be controlled or brought down for public safety, I support it. I don’t support just going out and trophy hunting for no reason other than to get a vanity item in your house. It’s the kind of mentality that leads to these amazing animals becoming endangered.
That wasn't a trophy hunt. People lost their livestock to that cat. That's a predator hunt. We're having a similar problem locally with coyotes. I plan to kill some. And I'm not going to eat them. Understand?
Would they rather have it the other way around?
Which of the Ten Commandments states "Thou shalt not be vain."? Thank in advance.
I just love it when people make up sh** that's no where in the Bible to suit their own personal bigotries....
The ASPCA has some great, practical people working for it in GA and SC. We’ve called them more than once to report conditions that we’ve seen horses kept in.
Just don't eat what ya kill. ;-)
Looks like a baby to me. Down here in Southern Utah ones like that are too small to take.
Why is the photo disturbing? He hunted legally and killed his game.
“Warning: Photo may disturb some readers; photo of aborted fetus sparks debate over legal abortion.”
(a headline we’ll never see in the MSM)
Exactly. These large cats are at the top of the food chain. They are willing and sometimes eager to eat us or our children. If no one ever kills one, what happens to their population? They would eventually be prowling the suburbs.
I take it you have never came across one in the wild... I did while hunting deer ( and here in michigan the state says they do not exist ) if it would have turned on me I would have shot it without hesitation... big damn cat will eat you for lunch...
Would you source that claim, please?
“Yuk! Oh man, I shouldn’t have eaten that animal rights hippie, I’m going to be tasting patchouli and body odor for days now. BLECH!”
It’s not trophy hunting it’s predator control. Over population of ANY species throws off the balance of nature. If hunters didn’t do it the state would. In Alaska they allow wolf hunting out of airplanes because it’s impossible to reach their territories by any other vehicle much less on foot.
That is one beautiful cat.
Who would be disturbed by that photo? Its a picture of a dead lion ... and not all that gruesome a picture, all things considered.
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