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'I’m a graduate, get me out of here!’
The Telegraph ^ | 13 Jan 2012 | Peter Stanford

Posted on 02/21/2012 3:42:21 AM PST by Cronos

.. Reilly has made headlines because she is mounting a legal challenge to what she says was the “forced labour” of being made to stack shelves for free in the discount retailer, or lose her £53-a-week in dole. “I was told it was mandatory. There were five of us sent there. I was the only graduate. We were doing exactly the same work as the paid staff. It makes no sense. If the Government subsidises high street chains with free labour, they don’t have to recruit. It causes unemployment rather than solves it.”

..Reilly, whose degree was geology...

The problem in Reilly’s case seems to be that, as a graduate, her career expectations were different from many other claimants. But she is not, in reality, so unusual. Of those who graduated at the same time as her, in 2010, half were either jobless six months later, or in menial roles. Another survey reports that 38 per cent of graduates have been on the dole after leaving university.

...Does she regret not tackling something more vocational – law, medicine, engineering – rather than geology?

“I did think about that before I started, but I loved the subject and geology can provide a whole range of careers in civil engineering, mining, oil exploration and property. So it was a practical choice.” But of her cohort, she says, only one – “and he got a first” – has got a job that uses his degree.

...“I don’t regret going to university,” says Holly Jerreat, 22, who graduated last summer with a 2:1 in languages from Bath, “but with hindsight I might have done a more vocational course. I chose languages because it was a subject I loved and found intellectually challenging. But here I am, still looking for work.”

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: uk; welfare
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To: iowamark

hand her a legal pad and send her on over to
wearethe99percent.com


21 posted on 02/21/2012 6:27:02 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: reformedliberal
I think it might be more of a case that the government schools and media push the necessity of college.

Well, in a civilization, in the urban civilized society of this era, that is indeed the "older generation" which is raising the young, and in this case "exploiting". Our generation has entrapped the young in great shackles of debt, in order to buy a wasteful, desultory, emotionally disabling, morally destructive, and intellectually ruining four, five, six years of "Higher Education".

Too many parents are caught in the still rampant societal delusion that college is a necessity, that college is a good, that college improves, that college is worth the huge cost burden.

22 posted on 02/21/2012 6:34:25 AM PST by bvw
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To: 21twelve

>>>Maybe she should buy a ticket for North Dakota. If she can stay sober and drug free she could probably move up the ranks fairly quickly.

But All one can do for recreation in NoDak is drink.... :D


23 posted on 02/21/2012 6:40:27 AM PST by Keith in Iowa (Willard Romney, purveyor of the world's finest bullmitt. | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: bvw

rampant societal delusion


Yes, but that delusion is so deeply inculcated by the governmental/media/educational authority that it simply isn’t productive to rant on the entire *older generation*.

This is JMO, but it may be essential for the present generations to experience the obvious results of this delusion in order for the coming generations to draw the correct conclusion.

It has been over 40 years since anyone was really taught to think, let alone think critically. I fear it is going to take catastrophic times for most to reclaim their abilities to reason.

If you just look around, there is indisputable evidence that the majority of those who have succeeded in our present society did obtain a university credential. Others succeeded because of university experiences that allowed them to meet *the right people* or to marry *the right person*, meaning those with elite connections. Now, that obviously doesn’t automatically mean that everyone who has this experience will benefit to the same degree. But it is difficult to condemn the parents who draw that conclusion.

Often, change takes place just because conditions change. Young people are hard-wired to rebel against parents and authority. At some point, one can expect the young to get it. Many will be chewed up and spit out by the system they blindly follow. Those are the sorts of lessons learned at a very basic level.


24 posted on 02/21/2012 7:03:36 AM PST by reformedliberal
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To: Graybeard58
UK gov new rule: you are waiting for a Job and getting dole? in the meanwhile, work at these jobs and earn the dole.

The private companies pay the gov for these folks.

25 posted on 02/21/2012 7:06:29 AM PST by Cronos (Party like it's 12 20, 2012)
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To: reformedliberal
This is JMO, but it may be essential for the present generations to experience the obvious results of this delusion in order for the coming generations to draw the correct conclusion.

That is not just your opinion, and it seems a very wise one! The "older generation", at least some of it, can help by ensuring that the younger generation does learn, re-learn, re-discover, the corrections. To point them to Kipling's "The Gods of the Copybook Headings", or more basically the truths of Divine Law and the good ways of human operation which ensure that the fruits and blessings of Divine Providence pour forth.

26 posted on 02/21/2012 7:41:01 AM PST by bvw
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27 posted on 02/21/2012 7:59:57 AM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Graybeard58
Why was she working for a private company without pay? Was it a requirement for staying on the dole?

Yes.

Did the private company reimburse the government for her dole?

No.

28 posted on 02/21/2012 10:08:12 AM PST by Winniesboy
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To: Cronos
If the Government subsidises high street chains with free labour, they don’t have to recruit. It causes unemployment rather than solves it.

She has a point: but not, I suspect, the one she intended.

29 posted on 02/21/2012 10:16:33 AM PST by Winniesboy
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To: Cronos
If the Government subsidises high street chains with free labour, they don’t have to recruit. It causes unemployment rather than solves it.”

If that is an accurate depiction of what government does, she may be correct.

Geology has applications in lots of businesses and industries; if she is willing to relocate, she'll be more likely to find a match.

As far as her marriage prospects go, contact lenses and a smile wouldn't hurt! (Unless she's got the typical Brit bad teeth...)

30 posted on 02/21/2012 10:39:28 AM PST by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: AppyPappy

I can happily assure you that it’s not


31 posted on 02/21/2012 11:34:12 AM PST by Mitch86
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To: Cronos

Update on this story -

It now seems that Tesco and other retailers are pulling out of this scheme after adverse publicity:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/feb/21/back-work-scheme-disarray-tesco


32 posted on 02/21/2012 12:38:17 PM PST by Winniesboy
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To: iowamark
I hope that she finds a job. I doubt that her marriage prospects are very good.

Her looks aren't that bad. Her attitude of entitlement is likely to send prospective boyfriends running (at least the ones with any sense).

33 posted on 02/21/2012 12:43:25 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: bvw
The OLDER GENERATION has sowed a generation of victims unable to find their own way.

Try again - dude !

My daughter and I had more than one long and frank discussion about "would you like fries with that" degrees.

SHE chose to go to an expensive (liberal) private college and study art and history. Her mother and I split the cost of room & board.

SHE made the choices, against my advice. Now she can live with 'em.

34 posted on 02/21/2012 1:18:13 PM PST by jimt (Fear is the darkroom where negatives are developed.)
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To: Cronos

Her geology degree was totally worthless in the job assigned. She should have been perfectly suited for digging ditches, however.

Or digging holes and filling them back up, after examining the diggings for signs of precious metals or petroleum.


35 posted on 02/21/2012 11:15:48 PM PST by tdscpa
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