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Judicial panel says GOP should consider new election maps (Wisconsin)
Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel ^ | 2/21/12 | Patrick Marley

Posted on 02/21/2012 1:14:24 PM PST by Jean S

In a surprise move Tuesday, a federal three-judge panel told Republican legislative leaders they should consider drawing new election maps taking into account challenges from Democrats and Latinos.

The court gave the Legislature until 5:30 p.m. Tuesday to decide whether it wants to revisit the maps it approved last summer. If it does not, the trial challenging the maps will resume Wednesday. If lawmakers agree to take up the maps anew, the court would give them until mid-March to approve them.

The order, coming just after the trial began Tuesday, sent the 16 attorneys in the courtroom scrambling to consult with their clients and make overtures to lawmakers and GOP Gov. Scott Walker.

"We're going to have to get together with a lot of people," said Assistant Attorney General Maria Lazar.

The idea of redrawing the maps comes in the waning days of the legislative session, as Republican leaders try to pass a major overhaul of mining laws before heading into likely recall elections this summer of Walker, Lt. Gov. Rebecca Kleefisch and four GOP senators. It was unclear if Republican leaders were open to the idea of changing the maps, and the topic was expected to dominate Tuesday's caucus meetings behind closed doors.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: feds; statelaw
This is outrageous! A federal court is overruling out state constitution.
1 posted on 02/21/2012 1:14:32 PM PST by Jean S
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To: Jean S

And ordering them to draw out guaranteed Rat districts.


2 posted on 02/21/2012 1:18:50 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: Jean S

Democrats in my state change the maps all of the time to get rid of Republicans, not once have they been taken to court over it.

Republicans are sponges if they allow a Judge to mandate to them what they can do.

This is no more than Judicial side of Government taking a Democrat biased position.


3 posted on 02/21/2012 1:20:08 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Jean S

Maybe the legislators ought to consider appealing any ruling usurping their power to create congressional districts instead.


4 posted on 02/21/2012 1:24:40 PM PST by Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
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To: Jean S

If the maps only considered LEGAL latinos, the combined area would be around 1 square meter.....


5 posted on 02/21/2012 1:25:31 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Jean S

Outrageous, yes, but it could be worse. Wisconsin isn’t a covered jurisdiction where redistricting has to be approved by Holder’s justice department - like the fight Texas is in right now.


6 posted on 02/21/2012 1:26:49 PM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius, (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: Jean S
In a surprise move Tuesday, a federal three-judge panel told Republican legislative leaders they should consider drawing new election maps taking into account challenges from Democrats and Latinos.

Well, did they say they "should consider" or they "must". Because if, as they article states, they said "should consider", if I was the Republicans, I would respond with a terse "no thanks, were fine with the current maps".

7 posted on 02/21/2012 1:28:04 PM PST by apillar
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To: Jean S

the top few key people in each individual County Recorders office have full and unfettered access behind closed doors to manipulate final vote counts at the end of the election, but they need a system, like adding dead voters and/or subtracting “lost” ballots


8 posted on 02/21/2012 1:28:31 PM PST by KTM rider
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To: Jean S

Civil Rights Act trumps the 10th Amendment in that particular court’s eyes I guess. Interesting times...


9 posted on 02/21/2012 1:29:10 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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To: Jean S

The legislature should tell the court no, and then ask them what they are going to do about it.


10 posted on 02/21/2012 1:33:04 PM PST by FerociousRabbit
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To: Venturer; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy
Democrats in my state change the maps all of the time to get rid of Republicans, not once have they been taken to court over it. Republicans are sponges if they allow a Judge to mandate to them what they can do. This is no more than Judicial side of Government taking a Democrat biased position.

Federal judges. If it's not the courts, it's Holder suing the state of Texas. When was the last time any federal entity told Dems their maps were illegal?

Imagine Obama getting to replace Scalia on the SCOTUS in the next 4 years. He would have lots of commies-in-robes to choose from.

11 posted on 02/21/2012 1:40:52 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: Jean S

They should go pound sand. You know they’ll challenge the maps if the GOP redraws them anyway, so stick with the original plan and get it over with.


12 posted on 02/21/2012 2:00:26 PM PST by Cyber Liberty ("If the past sits in judgment on the present, the future will be lost." --Winston Churchill)
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13 posted on 02/21/2012 2:27:04 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: FerociousRabbit
The legislature should tell the court no, and then ask them what they are going to do about it.

In my experience, when the court says that, they are telling you that you are going to lose.

Even so, you are right, the GOP should tell them to stick it. They need to get this case through the system as fast as they can. If their circuit is liberal, they have got to get it to the Supremes. It is amazing to see how far libs will go now to usurp authority.

14 posted on 02/21/2012 2:27:11 PM PST by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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To: Jean S

I’m always amazed that when Democrats draw maps in the redistricting process (e.g., Illinois) they’re just peachy-keen but when the Republicans do the redistricting (e.g., Texas) they must be revised to accommodate the Democrats.

Disgusting!


15 posted on 02/21/2012 2:32:18 PM PST by House Atreides
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To: Jean S

Fact is the maps always benefit both sides.

What makes republican districts more republican, generally makes the remaining districts more democrat. And if you really want to see spaghetti districting it’s the democrats that are masters of it.

Besides, the real deal going on here is the continuing full-court press against the republicans on all fronts in Wisconsin. Just say no, they’ll keep fighting it anyway.

Let them keep fighting and wasting resources.


16 posted on 02/21/2012 2:49:33 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Jean S

translation: You guys cave, or we’re going to cave for you


17 posted on 02/21/2012 3:07:33 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Jean S

The GOP needs to tell the Court to pound sand. Wisconsin ain’t Texas. Y’all aren’t subject to review and approval by the DoJ.


18 posted on 02/21/2012 3:11:35 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: Jean S
In a surprise move Tuesday, a federal three-judge panel told Republican legislative leaders they should consider drawing new election maps taking into account challenges from Democrats and Latinos.

Provided it eliminates democrats from congress, I agree. As for the Latinos, there are many who would LOVE to see the socialist rats burn.

19 posted on 02/21/2012 3:44:05 PM PST by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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To: Jean S
So much for constitutionally-based representative governance.

It was a good system while it lasted.

20 posted on 02/21/2012 3:51:36 PM PST by CanadianYankee
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To: Jean S

Welcome to the regime the South has lived under since 1965.


21 posted on 02/21/2012 3:57:13 PM PST by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

The GOP needs to tell the Court to pound sand. Wisconsin ain’t Texas. Y’all aren’t subject to review and approval by the DoJ.


True WI doesn’t have the Preclearance requirement, Section 5 of the VRA. I think this challenge is coming under Section 2, which can be filed for voting discrimination and enforced via the Federal District Court.

Just my take and I’ve not looked at any of the court case, etc.


22 posted on 02/21/2012 4:15:57 PM PST by deport (..............God Bless Texas............)
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To: Jean S; Hunton Peck; Diana in Wisconsin; TaMoDee; P from Sheb; Shady; DonkeyBonker; ...

Wisconsin Outrageous Court Ruling on Legislative Maps ping

FReep Mail me if you want on, or off, this Wisconsin interest ping list.

THis is just unbelievable. I’ve worked all morning at the polls, and the new maps are already in effect. This will cost millions $$ and hours and hours of everybody’s time to change them again.


23 posted on 02/21/2012 4:44:35 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

It’s likely going to be the same panel that hears the case regarding Act 10.


24 posted on 02/21/2012 4:49:17 PM PST by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: deport

I haven’t read any of it either. Now I’m curious.


25 posted on 02/21/2012 4:57:03 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: Jean S

Oh, it’s just fine when the DemoRats redistrict to their advantage. Who are the judges on this “panel”?


26 posted on 02/21/2012 4:59:50 PM PST by Wisconsinlady (KEEP YOUR LEGISLATORS ON SPEED DIAL AND TELL THEM TO GROW SOME)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Impy; GOPsterinMA; randita; Sun; ...

“Imagine Obama getting to replace Scalia on the SCOTUS in the next 4 years. He would have lots of commies-in-robes to choose from.”

I’m not certain that we could survive a second Obama term.


27 posted on 02/21/2012 5:42:54 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (A chameleon belongs in a pet store, not the White House)
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To: Clintonfatigued

“I’m not certain that we could survive a second Obama term.”

Not certain? No question “we” (what constitutes that is another discussion) WILL not survive.


28 posted on 02/21/2012 6:21:29 PM PST by GOPsterinMA (Farewell sweet Rick, we barely knew ye...)
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To: Venturer

Which state is that?


29 posted on 02/21/2012 6:32:11 PM PST by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Jean S

If democrats and their enabling judiciary couldn’t cheat, they’d accomplish very little.


30 posted on 02/21/2012 7:02:06 PM PST by prairiebreeze (Who are you and what have you done with Ann Coulter?!)
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To: Menehune56

Yays, we is still under the jurisprudence of the carpetbagger. I don’t know if he ever left us. We wuz bad.


31 posted on 02/21/2012 7:41:57 PM PST by ichabod1
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To: Defiant

Whats amazing is that there seems to be nothing to stop them getting away with it.


32 posted on 02/21/2012 7:54:18 PM PST by ichabod1
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To: ichabod1

Which is why it is important for the political branches to assert control over the judicial branches, as they were intended to do. The legislature determines the power and authority of the lower courts, and the jurisdiction of the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court only has jurisdiction over a very small list of types of cases that are mentioned in the constitution, what is known as “original jurisdiction”. All other jurisdiction is given to it, and the lower courts, by the Congress. The Congress needs to create new courts of appeal and remove jurisdiction from those judges that have lifetime tenure. It should remove by impeachment those who have been the most blatantly extra-constitutional. The others will fall in line fast enough. Like self-deportation, only it will be self-correction. Most of them will decide they like their lifetime jobs, and will start following the law.


33 posted on 02/21/2012 9:38:59 PM PST by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

That would be the reason why some jurisdictions have to have their maps approved: Southern Democrats were notorious for many years for gerrymandering districts: and still are. There are many districts carved out for Democrats where you cant walk from one end of a district to another: the connecting path is too narrow.

Of course after that there is the voter fraud. Old “Landslide Lyndon” was famous for getting over 200% turnout in some counties.


35 posted on 02/22/2012 12:06:56 AM PST by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: Impy

Maryland


36 posted on 02/22/2012 4:18:32 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Jean S
Only a one word reply is necessary from the Republicans:

NUTS !

37 posted on 02/22/2012 4:23:42 AM PST by Mopp4
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To: Venturer; sickoflibs; fieldmarshaldj

Ah yes, Maryland. One of the most historically and thoroughly rat-dominated states. Redistricting never goes well there because Republicans haven’t controlled either House of the leg since the 1910’s I think. I hope we will be able to keep Rep. Bartlett’s seat.


38 posted on 02/23/2012 5:48:54 PM PST by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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