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All fossil fuels must be cut to avoid global warming, (two) scientists say
Canada ^ | 2/21/12 | Mike De Souza

Posted on 02/21/2012 4:38:32 PM PST by Libloather

All fossil fuels must be cut to avoid global warming, scientists say
By Mike De Souza, Postmedia News
February 21, 2012 6:10 PM

OTTAWA — Two Canadian climate change scientists from the University of Victoria say the public reaction to their recently published commentary has missed their key message: that all forms of fossil fuels, including the oilsands and coal, must be regulated for the world to avoid dangerous global warming.

"Much of the way this has been reported is (through) a type of view that oilsands are good and coal is bad," said climate scientist Neil Swart, who co-authored the study with fellow climatologist Andrew Weaver. "From my perspective, that was not the point. . . . The point here is, we need a rapid transition to renewable (energy), and avoid committing to long-term fossil fuel use if we are to get within the limits (of reducing global warming to less than 2 C)."

The commentary, published in the British scientific journal, Nature Climate Change, estimated the impact of consuming the fuel from oilsands deposits — without factoring in greenhouse gas emissions associated with extraction and production — would be far less harmful to the planet's atmosphere than consuming all of the world's coal resources.

(Excerpt) Read more at canada.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bullcrap; bullshiite; climatechange; climategate; climategate2; fossil; fuels; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; horsefeathers; horsehockey; scientists
Canada will burn wood for heat?
1 posted on 02/21/2012 4:38:39 PM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather
must be regulated by a government of thugs so that it can be cornered and controlled by them.

Hey, it worked in Russia.

2 posted on 02/21/2012 4:42:01 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (whomever told fat black women they were sexy lied to them.)
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To: Libloather

These two pukes are late to the game. They must want funding for the families.

Pass the tinfoil hat.


3 posted on 02/21/2012 4:42:53 PM PST by Tenacious 1 (With regards to the GOP: I am prodisestablishmentarianistic!)
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To: Libloather

When petroleum burns, it produces carbon dioxide and water, also known as moist plant food.

Carbon dioxide is a trace gas. It always has been a trace gas. It always will be a trace gas.

Any increase in carbon dioxide concentrations in the atmosphere are balanced by increases in vegetation. The vegetation absorbs the carbon dioxide and lowers the carbon dioxide concentration.

The whole system works just as it was designed to work.


4 posted on 02/21/2012 4:45:30 PM PST by TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed (Yahuah Yahusha)
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To: Libloather
the public reaction to their recently published commentary has missed their key message: that all forms of fossil fuels, including the oilsands and coal, must be regulated for the world to avoid dangerous global warming.

We're all just so incredibly stupid and uneducated out here that we are grateful for the great minds who guide us like this.

ML/NJ

5 posted on 02/21/2012 4:45:48 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: Libloather
Someone just hang these cretins please.

LLS

6 posted on 02/21/2012 4:46:26 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (Hey repubic elite scumbags... jam mitt up your collective arses!)
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To: Libloather

So how does this square with our coming out of an ice age? (Quaternary glaciation)


7 posted on 02/21/2012 4:48:04 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: Libloather

These cooks belong to the flat earth cult of global warming.


8 posted on 02/21/2012 4:48:19 PM PST by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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To: Libloather

“Canada will burn wood for heat?”

No, Pristine, natural, biodegradable, renewable Canadian wood also releases CO2.

Considering the short Canadian growing season, by the time new forest growth sequesters that CO2, we will be at the end of the century and the dreaded Climate Change will have melted the ice caps, flooded Manhattan, and made alGore a few more billion dollars.

(Question: Is the “Dreaded Climate Change” any relation to the “Dread Pirate Roberts”?)

need I say it?..../sarc


9 posted on 02/21/2012 4:48:22 PM PST by BwanaNdege (Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: Libloather
Canada will burn wood for heat?

The environmentalists are too stupid to understand, but that's a good idea, even if the far left is correct for once. Wood takes carbon out of the atmosphere as the tree grows, and burning the wood releases the same carbon. Failing to burn the wood in most cases means that the wood decomposes - and still releases the original carbon back to the atmosphere in a few years. I think the effect of CO2 is vastly exaggerated in order to support the left's typical power grab, but non-fossil carbon fuels are clearly completely benign.

10 posted on 02/21/2012 4:49:10 PM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Libloather

“Fire BAAAAADDD!!!”

I wonder how they will feel about peasants with pitchforks?


11 posted on 02/21/2012 4:50:35 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Libloather
This Andrew Weaver?

In 2011, Weaver responded to accusations of falsifying data on climate change by suing Tim Ball, an outspoken skeptic of the issue, for defamation. The lawsuit accuses Ball of saying that Weaver “cheated the Canadian taxpayer by accepting public funding for climate science research although he has little or no knowledge about climate science and is incapable of conducting useful research,” and that he “bribed university students with research funds so they would participate in useless computer modeling studies…”

And his graduate student Neil Swart.

12 posted on 02/21/2012 4:51:43 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Libloather

http://moneyunderdog.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/skipping1.jpg
Two Canadian climate change scientists


13 posted on 02/21/2012 4:51:44 PM PST by tumblindice (Whitey-American: Taxed Enough Already)
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To: Libloather

Professors Al Gore and Michael Moore?


14 posted on 02/21/2012 5:02:13 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: Pollster1

How about the carbon released from the rotting corpses of the newly starved masses?


15 posted on 02/21/2012 5:02:47 PM PST by Aevery_Freeman (Typed using <FONT STYLE=SARCASM> unless otherwise noted)
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To: Aevery_Freeman
How about the carbon released from the rotting corpses of the newly starved masses?

If they are no longer driving SUVs, that's a net plus, isn't it? That's why the far left likes Obama so much - he'll starve the poor and crush the West's economy, so energy consumption will plummet.

16 posted on 02/21/2012 5:06:22 PM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Libloather
Canadians and homes in the Northeast rely heavily on wood and wood or brick pellets although they may have more costly gas/oil/electric as a backup or vice versa.

Global Warming :the phony theology ideology that Santorum spoke about.

Santorum: Obama supports ‘phony theology — not a theology based on the Bible’
By Felicia Sonmez
This post has been updated. An earlier version misquoted
Santorum as saying “phony ideology,” not “phony theology.”

But there is a BIG difference between global warming and just being environmental/energy conscious. Conscious of the costs and benefits of radiant wood heat has always been a way of life in colder parts of the country for centuries . Also in European countries as well use wood/byproducts.

http://www.wittus.com/
not just in the countryside settings but cities like Paris as well

Canada also has the Keystone--so becomes a choice of which source to use-- that these environmentalists can only waste words about.

I often say we have gone to the moon, launched satellites that can see every detail anywhere in the world, cruise the Internet where building knowledge on any given subject is endless....But we still burn wood, with all the labor that accompanies it.

17 posted on 02/21/2012 5:07:10 PM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: Libloather

They are more than willing to say this....but, they won’t debate it.

They’d lose.

This is a house of cards ready to fall.

AGW....the oxymoron of the century.


18 posted on 02/21/2012 5:09:28 PM PST by Puckster
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To: Libloather

Somebody needs to inform these fellows that a dead horse is, well, “dead” and no amount of beating will revive it.


19 posted on 02/21/2012 5:10:59 PM PST by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
No, no, fire good! Fire is our friend!

Care for an Espresso?

20 posted on 02/21/2012 5:17:50 PM PST by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: katana

“Global warming is totally 2011, like, you know?”


21 posted on 02/21/2012 5:19:24 PM PST by Arkansas Toothpick
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To: Tenacious 1

Crazy bastids want us to sit home and starve to detah if we don’t freeze first.

What these p[eople really want is for half the world’s population to die.


22 posted on 02/21/2012 5:20:40 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Libloather

One way to reduce the consumption of fossil fuels is to reduce the population using them.

Starting with these two scientists.


23 posted on 02/21/2012 5:21:48 PM PST by DPMD
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To: Libloather

They live in Canada.

How do they propose to stay warm?

Move to Florida?

Too bad global warming is a hoax. The earth could use some warming.

Imagine growing temperate region crops troughout northern Canada, Alaska, Siberia, Norway and Finland.

Corn and wheat in northern Siberia, orange groves in North Carolina and England, tomato farms in Saskatchewan - yummie.

And just think of the reduction in pollution by not having to heat all those northern homes all winter long.

Too bad it’s a hoax.


24 posted on 02/21/2012 5:22:58 PM PST by Iron Munro ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight he'll just kill you." John Steinbeck)
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To: Libloather

Why would a Canadian be terrified of global warming anyway?


25 posted on 02/21/2012 5:23:47 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Libloather

Well, two self-identified “scientists” tell us we have to cut fossil fuel use. Guess we’ve all got to do as they dictate.


26 posted on 02/21/2012 5:24:42 PM PST by Theo (May Rome decrease and Christ increase.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Rurudyne; steelyourfaith; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; xcamel; AdmSmith; ...

Thanks Libloather.


27 posted on 02/21/2012 5:25:34 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: SunkenCiv; TenthAmendmentChampion; SolitaryMan; Dr. Bogus Pachysandra; grey_whiskers; ...
Thanx for the ping SunkenCiv !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

28 posted on 02/21/2012 5:30:09 PM PST by steelyourfaith (Expel the Occupy White House squatters !!!)
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To: Libloather

These Canadian climate change scientists need to be LOBOTOMIZED.


29 posted on 02/21/2012 5:33:19 PM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: SunkenCiv; TigerLikesRooster; landsbaum; Signalman; NormsRevenge; steelyourfaith; Lancey Howard; ...
The propaganda machine just keeps working.
30 posted on 02/21/2012 5:45:47 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
RE: "The propaganda machine just keeps working."
It provides the Al Gores of the world a little comfort.
31 posted on 02/21/2012 5:59:46 PM PST by Marine_Uncle
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To: Marine_Uncle

We need to send him to the Artic with his friends the polar Bears,...a tent, sleeping bag and a years suppy of sterno cans....


32 posted on 02/21/2012 6:03:37 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Should have been done last month when some areas where recording -65F. Then again. I guess if he where to drink enough sterno he might not have to worry to long about freezing to death.


33 posted on 02/21/2012 6:09:34 PM PST by Marine_Uncle
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To: Libloather

34 posted on 02/21/2012 6:31:33 PM PST by matthew fuller (Elevators smell different to midgets.)
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To: Libloather
The point here is, we need a rapid transition to renewable (energy), and avoid committing to long-term fossil fuel use if we are to get within the limits (of reducing global warming to less than 2 C)."

Sorry, Charlie.
That is based entirely on computer models, otherwise known as GIGO.

If that's the best you can do, no thanks.

When you can support your theory based on actual science, I might be interested.

35 posted on 02/21/2012 7:03:22 PM PST by Publius6961 (My world was lovely, until it was taken over by parasites.)
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To: BwanaNdege
(Question: Is the “Dreaded Climate Change” any relation to the “Dread Pirate Roberts”?)

More likely related to Moist Dreadlocks Syndrome: they get wet, tighten up, squeezing the skull, until brain-ischemia occurs. It mainly affects the reasoning centers.

That's why Rastafarians NEVER wash their hair.

/equal sarcasm

36 posted on 02/21/2012 7:04:46 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (If any of their "Alternatives" actually works, the Greenies will proceed to kill it.)
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To: VideoDoctor
These Canadian climate change scientists need to be LOBOTOMIZED.

Too late...

37 posted on 02/21/2012 7:08:24 PM PST by Publius6961 (My world was lovely, until it was taken over by parasites.)
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To: Libloather

No. That would be whale blubber that we burn for heat.


38 posted on 02/22/2012 12:44:15 PM PST by oldweesie
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To: Vince Ferrer

Vince Ferrer: Why would a Canadian be terrified of global warming anyway?

That’s what I’d like to know. As a Canadian, I say, bring it on. The sooner the better.


39 posted on 02/22/2012 1:04:44 PM PST by oldweesie
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

“So how does this square with our coming out of an ice age? (Quaternary glaciation)”

-—<>-—<>-—<>-—<>-—<>-—

If you look at temperature records of the last half million years, it appears likely we are now slipping back INTO an Ice Age, despite the CAGW alarmists. We ARE still recovering from the “Little Ice Age” which occurred 300 or so years ago.

**CAGW == Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming


40 posted on 02/23/2012 6:23:29 AM PST by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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