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Should Georgia exempt itself from federal law?
AJC ^ | 2/21/2012 | Kristina Torres

Posted on 02/21/2012 10:09:59 PM PST by Sprite518

The measure has the backing of the Senate's top two leaders -- President Pro Tem Tommie Williams, R-Lyons, and Senate Majority Leader Chip Rogers, R-Woodstock -- who have signed on as co-sponsors.

"The federal government has excessively abused the authority of state and local governments for some time," Albers said, explaining why he sponsored the proposal.

SR 889 has been assigned to the Senate Judiciary Committee.

(Excerpt) Read more at ajc.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: 10thamendment; exempt; federal; georgia; law; nullification; statesrights; tenthamendment
Now this will be interesting to watch. If Georgia passes this, then I expect more States to follow.
1 posted on 02/21/2012 10:10:09 PM PST by Sprite518
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To: Sprite518

Yep.

Georgia and 49 more.

The other 7 Obama states can stick with the Boy King.


2 posted on 02/21/2012 10:18:11 PM PST by Iron Munro ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight he'll just kill you." John Steinbeck)
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To: Sprite518

High time that the States (or at least some states) woke up from under the thumb of the Federal Government! Amen...


3 posted on 02/21/2012 10:19:31 PM PST by Deagle
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4 posted on 02/21/2012 10:20:45 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Sprite518

Pass the popcorn.....this is going to get REAL interesting


5 posted on 02/21/2012 10:27:48 PM PST by Nifster
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From the article:

A panel of Georgia lawmakers would have the power to review federal law and declare it illegal under a proposal in the state Senate.

Senate Resolution 889 would create a “joint commission on recommendation” to advise on which federal laws infringed on the state. If approved by two-thirds of the General Assembly, Georgia residents would be exempted from following them.

Sponsored by state Sen. John Albers, R-Roswell, the proposal would also force lawmakers to “adopt and enact any and all measures that may become necessary to prevent the wrongful enforcement of any federal laws or regulations duly nullified within the boundaries and limits of this state.”


6 posted on 02/21/2012 10:30:03 PM PST by thouworm (.)
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To: Sprite518
Well I was hoping the article would provide more details...but sadly, it did not.

Like the collecting of the Federal income tax, and when the states don't comply, the Feds withhold funds. What recourse does the State have?

I really hope more states start adopting this attitude.

7 posted on 02/21/2012 10:34:53 PM PST by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: Sprite518

I seem to recall Georgia went down this road before. Newt even wrote some books on it. It ended poorly, IIRC. Something to do with Sherman. At best this is poor timing for it. They can always reconsider if Obama is re-elected.


8 posted on 02/21/2012 10:52:22 PM PST by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: JohnBovenmyer

It’s high time that States recognize their rights when in conflict with the Federal Government. The Federal Government should NOT have the right to bribe States with do this or lose monies, nor should they continue to have to fight over 10th amendment issues.

We are a Republic - we just don’t act like it!


9 posted on 02/21/2012 11:03:40 PM PST by Deagle
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To: Deagle; Tex-Con-Man; Nifster; thouworm; Iron Munro; Sprite518
Exactly right. Pulling ourselves out of this dystopian swamp isn't going to be accomplished by just sending a Palin, Santorum, Gingrich, Paul, or whomever to Washington; even if accompanied by a fresh majority in both chambers of Congress. That is our fatal mistake - we've let a relative handful of essentially career bureaucrats overreach their Constitutional prerogatives to dictate domestic policy to millions in fifty sovereign states within our national borders. A voter-driven 'top-down' methodology isn't going to work in this day and age any more effectively than a media-cheered, activist-sponsored Occupy-Wherever-We-Feel-Like-Screwing-In-The-Bushes-And-Crapping-On-Police-Cars tent city protest will. We have to start in our own state capitols, and reassert our territorial and cultural rights as individual voluntary participants in the American Republic. The old cliche about 'making a federal case out of it' needs to be stopped where and when it dares wander outside the clearly defined pervue of the federal government and infringes upon the rights of the individual territories.

"But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: for men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away, for his name is Obama."

10 posted on 02/21/2012 11:50:50 PM PST by Viking2002 (Hey, Urkel. Frack THIS!)
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To: Deagle

The biggest step needed is to repeal the 17th amendment; it would have appalled the framers. Things weren’t working perfectly before Wilson’s amendments; adjustments beyond restoring status quo ante may be indicated but should be VERY carefully thought out. But certainly the framers intended to divide governmental power as much as they could, with the states intended to be independent of the feds in many ways and the senate being their instrument at the federal level. Alas proper states rights got entangled in the original sin of slavery and may not be restorable until we can wean the slaves’... and masters’... descendants from the liberal plantation.


11 posted on 02/22/2012 12:24:33 AM PST by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: JohnBovenmyer

Well, you might be right but remember today’s politics. It may not longer matter who whether the legislature or the people vote - the legislature is corrupt and the people are led by the media.

While I agree that it might make some difference, only politically. The actual Representation of the folks would change little.


12 posted on 02/22/2012 12:31:44 AM PST by Deagle
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To: JohnBovenmyer

“Something to do with Sherman”

One of my few regrets, is that I was born 150 years or so to late to shoot that SOB.


13 posted on 02/22/2012 2:30:44 AM PST by BigCinBigD
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To: JohnBovenmyer

When Georgia — and the South — went down “this road” before, most of the productive population and industry was in the North.

The North is now moribund thanks to the domination of the statists up there. The manufacturing and food production is now mostly located in the South and Midwest.

THOSE are the facts that matter if God forbid we end up going down that road again. Not the names of the states...


14 posted on 02/22/2012 2:31:35 AM PST by piytar (Rebellion is here! Free Republic is on the front line! NEVER SURRENDER!)
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To: Tex-Con-Man

I have always thought that the federal income tax should be collected by the states and then passed to the federal government as deemed appropriate by the State Legislature. If a state is getting short changed they can withhold the funds at the state level.


15 posted on 02/22/2012 5:30:26 AM PST by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: Sprite518

I guess this means I have to go back to Atlanta...

16 posted on 02/22/2012 6:26:27 AM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Deagle

the rights of men the powers of government

it is semantics, but powers of government derive from the rights of men and are tantamount in protecting those rights.

words do mean things... and words do, mean things.

teeman


17 posted on 02/22/2012 8:10:12 AM PST by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: Sprite518

It probably has a good chance to pass as the GOP holds almost a supermajority in both state houses.

Thank God the republicans in the state house bear little or no resemblance to the 2 RINO senators and a lot of the US reps from GA.


18 posted on 02/22/2012 8:11:18 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

If Obama wins reelection, then I believe you will see a lot of this legislation through out the Republic. Things could get a little dicey.


19 posted on 02/22/2012 8:25:03 AM PST by Sprite518
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To: Alter Kaker

That was a different time. The majority of the people are now in the South. This is based on the old Mason Dixon line and the former Confederate States of America.

However, I have feeling that Maryland would probably be on the North Side this time around.


20 posted on 02/22/2012 8:27:56 AM PST by Sprite518
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To: Viking2002

We still can vote which is imperative.

We just have to be active and sway the majority of people in the debates. Now if the super majority of people do not want freedom, then I would say it’s time to leave.

The last thing you ever want is a war. Nothing good comes from it. Yes we did end conflicts, but new ones arise. How many wars have there been? If war was the answer to all our issues, then there would be no war. It’s only a temporary fix.

Please do not misconstrue me to think I’m some sort of pacifist. I’m not, and absolutely believe in the defending yourself when attacked. It’s your moral duty as a human being to protect what God has created. Just saying it’s just one of the things in life that you do not want to do. It’s sickens my gut to even have that though cross my mind.


21 posted on 02/22/2012 8:39:45 AM PST by Sprite518
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To: Sprite518
The majority of the people are now in the South. This is based on the old Mason Dixon line and the former Confederate States of America.

Huh? Your math is off. Nowhere even close.

22 posted on 02/22/2012 7:47:02 PM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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