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Forest Service Fees Found Faulty by Courts
KREX News ^ | Feb 21, 2012 | Matt Kroschel

Posted on 02/21/2012 10:53:00 PM PST by george76

In a ruling that is binding in nine western states and sets a nationwide legal precedent; the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals found unanimously last week that the U.S. Forest Service's recreation fee programs must allow citizens to park at trail-heads and go for a hike without paying a fee.

The case (Adams v. U. S. Forest Service) was brought in 2008 by four hikers who visit the Coronado National Forest around Mt. Lemmon, near Tucson.

The San Francisco Appeals Court found the U. S. Forest Service at fault for charging parking fees to people who go for a hike without using amenities such as picnic tables, trashcans, and bathrooms located nearby, or who camp in dispersed, undeveloped parts of a National Forest.

Judge Robert Gettleman, writing for the unanimous three-judge panel, stated in the ruling that "Everyone is entitled to enter national forests without paying a cent."

(Excerpt) Read more at krextv.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California; US: Colorado; US: Montana; US: New Mexico; US: Oregon; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: agenda21; animalrights; ar; blm; forestservice; unagenda21; usfs

1 posted on 02/21/2012 10:53:00 PM PST by george76
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To: Flycatcher; jazusamo; girlangler; SierraWasp; proud_yank; rellimpank; NVDave

Forest access fees began in 1996


2 posted on 02/21/2012 10:56:33 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

3 posted on 02/21/2012 11:04:22 PM PST by I see my hands (The old sod ne'er shall be forgot.)
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4 posted on 02/21/2012 11:16:06 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: george76

No worries, other fees will go up and other schemes will be created for the Kings forest.


5 posted on 02/21/2012 11:19:34 PM PST by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: george76

6 posted on 02/21/2012 11:20:55 PM PST by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: george76

Wondering about launch fees at National Parks. Having to pay to use their public ramps.

Should not have to pay to boat on Federal Waters. :)

Judge?


7 posted on 02/21/2012 11:44:29 PM PST by prolusion
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To: SJackson

*PING* to freely enjoy the outdoors


8 posted on 02/21/2012 11:56:54 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (If any of their "Alternatives" actually works, the Greenies will proceed to kill it.)
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To: Iowa Granny; Ladysmith; Diana in Wisconsin; JLO; sergeantdave; damncat; phantomworker; joesnuffy; ..
If you’d like to be on or off this Outdoors/Rural/wildlife/hunting/hiking/backpacking/National Parks/animals list please FR mail me. And ping me is you see articles of interest.

Actually everyone isn't entitled to to enter national forests without paying a cent as the 9th circuit seems to be stating. That's a function of the Federal Lands Recreation Enhancement Act, legislation, which barred charging a fee for parking and trails.

9 posted on 02/22/2012 4:30:40 AM PST by SJackson (The Pilgrims Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do !)
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To: I see my hands

The Golden Age Pass port is the best deal going.

It permits entry to all US facilities and half off of campground fees


10 posted on 02/22/2012 4:42:51 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: SJackson

I go up to Uwharrie National Forest at least every couple of months. Park at a Trail Head and spend 1 or 2 nights camping out somewhere on the Uwharrie or Dutchmen’s Trails.

Never thought about Fees because they don’t charge any. Also so fees in the Birkhead Wilderness.


11 posted on 02/22/2012 4:54:23 AM PST by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: george76
Now if we could just get these Fed tyrants to STOP closing remote backcountry roads! These roads do NOT deserve to be closed, and they're NOT remote to those who live nearby or work, ranch, or recreate there.

But that's for another thread...

Thanks for the ping, George!

12 posted on 02/22/2012 6:57:29 AM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: I see my hands
I love the way you phrased that.

I'm with you!

13 posted on 02/22/2012 6:59:11 AM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: george76; LegendHasIt; Rogle; leapfrog0202; Santa Fe_Conservative; DesertDreamer; OneWingedShark; ..

NM list PING! Click on the flag to go to the Free Republic New Mexico message page.

(The NM list is available on my FR homepage for anyone to use. Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from the list.)

14 posted on 02/22/2012 7:36:43 AM PST by CedarDave (Donna Brazile: "... we we believe that the weakest candidate ... [is] Mitt Romney.")
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To: SJackson; Flycatcher

Actually, Flycatcher,

These guys:

http://twoday.net/static/omega/files/quotes_from_people_who_consider_us_subjects.htm

—The ruling elite’s plan is

to genocidally force the global population down to 200 million . . . see Agenda21 on FR and elsewhere . . .

AND

herd the remaining truly serfs and slaves

into Soviet style institutionalized housing in far fewer cities . . . of course taking the kids away from parents and universally preventing conception except as deemed in the interest of THE STATE . . .

. . . then returning the rest of the land to ‘it’s natural state’

for the recreational pleasures of the elites alone.


15 posted on 02/22/2012 7:50:44 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: george76

Go to USAJOBS.com and you’ll see that the Forest Service is hiring 12,000 workers who will be laid off on Dec. 5. Cooking the books on unemployment stats.


16 posted on 02/22/2012 8:05:49 AM PST by namvolunteer (Trying to adhere to liberal rules of engagement when they have no rules is suicide. - Maelstrom)
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To: Quix

The New Class always dreams of a Brave New World where the naturally superior alphas are in charge.

When the dreamers’ eyes open, it’s always 1984, with a boot endlessly stamping on a human face.

Luckily, “endlessly” is a bit strong; socialist regimes collapse within a few generations.


17 posted on 02/22/2012 8:10:03 AM PST by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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To: headsonpikes

Thankfully, this one is scheduled to be in

OVERT power “only” about 7 years.

Literal Armageddon will trash them totally and permanently.

The King Is Coming.


18 posted on 02/22/2012 8:19:35 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix
Wow.

Thanks for those quotes, Quix.

Just amazing. And remarkable that the phrase "New World Order" keeps recurring every decade for the last 100+ years.

As for Agenda 21, that seems to be the new "stealth" way of implementing the globalist platform. Sadly, there are far too many useful idiots across the country that are quite happy to hand over the rope that will eventually hang them.

19 posted on 02/22/2012 8:26:59 AM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: Flycatcher; Alamo-Girl; Amityschild; AngieGal; AnimalLover; Ann de IL; aposiopetic; aragorn; ...

You’re welcome.

What percentage of your parents and sibllings and families are awake about such?

—of your extended family?

—of your workmates?

—of your church or other social groups?

Some of those quotes are worth printing on cards and handing out, imho.

BTW, folks:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread811697/pg2#pid13522410

RE protecting against SOME radiation and heavy metals damage.


20 posted on 02/22/2012 8:33:07 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix

Thanks for the ping!


21 posted on 02/22/2012 8:41:56 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Flycatcher; jazusamo

Good. Those are the people’s lands and we shouldn’t be charged for recreating in them.


22 posted on 02/22/2012 8:50:10 AM PST by girlangler (Fish Fear Me)
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To: girlangler; Flycatcher; george76
Good. Those are the people’s lands and we shouldn’t be charged for recreating in them.

Amen to that. There are some now in the USFS and BLM that would like to keep everyone off public lands, enviro-nazis are being promoted into higher positions.

23 posted on 02/22/2012 9:14:15 AM PST by jazusamo (Character assassination is just another form of voter fraud: Thomas Sowell)
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To: girlangler; jazusamo; george76
You said it.

Before this Obamanation is all over, I'm probably going to be declared a "public lands criminal."

I'll probably enjoy that status, though, I'm thinking. Ha ha ha!

24 posted on 02/22/2012 9:23:34 AM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: bert

The problem is that seasoned citizens are as a demographic unit far more financially stable with more disposable income than the other demographics, yet, as a result of getting old, get lots of discounts.


25 posted on 02/22/2012 9:44:39 AM PST by cyclotic (People who live within their means are increasingly being forced to pay for people who didn't.)
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To: george76

I feel strongly that federal parks and forests (and state for that matter) should be free of charge. It really should be a simple perk of citizenship that as a taxpayer there’s this one thing you can do without being nickel-and-dimed for some sort of fee or yet another tax. You can go up and take a walk in the woods, or the shore of some high mountain lake.

I remember boating on Puget Sound and there were numerous state parks with bouys where you could just go tie up for the night. It was nice. Now they charge a fee to do that too. [sigh]


26 posted on 02/22/2012 9:51:16 AM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: george76

I went through this at Snow Lake. I drove into the parking area, not seeing any forest service people, parked, hiked into the stream above it to look for fishing spots, and came back down to find a lunatic forest service lady screaming at me for not paying a fee. A guy camped by my truck said the lady had raised so much hell that he had paid my fee. I paid him and left, the lady was still screaming. I waved at her with my middle finger as I drove out.


27 posted on 02/22/2012 11:42:02 AM PST by pallis
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28 posted on 02/22/2012 11:44:11 AM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: george76
Judge Robert Gettleman, writing for the unanimous three-judge panel, stated in the ruling that "Everyone is entitled to enter national forests without paying a cent."

Interesting.
Why then, are there National Wilderness where no one except park rangers are allowed to go?

I have never gone, but the idea rankles me on principle.

29 posted on 02/22/2012 2:39:53 PM PST by Publius6961 (My world was lovely, until it was taken over by parasites.)
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