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The Tea Party Needs Allies (leaders outside their class and kind)
The American Spectator ^ | February 22, 2012 | William Tucker

Posted on 02/22/2012 3:32:24 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: redgolum
It is mainly because the GOP E comes from the same class and culture as the DNC E. They live in the same areas, went to the same schools, and have a very similar world view. ......

Bump!

41 posted on 02/22/2012 7:14:11 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: BO Stinkss
Remind me again how that worked out?

LOL.

Hell, I'm just some dumb yokel.


42 posted on 02/22/2012 7:16:20 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"a natural ally might be Mitt Romney, or someone very like him."

Milton Friedman: "People have a great misconception in this way, they think way they solve things by electing the right people. Its nice to elect the right people, but that isn’t the way you solve them. The way you solve things is by making it politically profitable for the wrong people to do the right things!"

Well, if you agree with Friedman and if, as many here believe, Romney will do the right thing if it is "politcally profitable", then Romney would be that natural ally. (Romney - "I believe in a lot of things the Tea Party believes in.")

43 posted on 02/22/2012 7:16:37 AM PST by LZ_Bayonet ( I AM THE TEA PARTY LEADER !)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Exactly.

Rush has said he won’t endorse, because he has to be careful to preserve his ability to support the ulitmate nominee.

Levin has been the most openly critical of Romney, but has already said he will vote for him if need be to rid us of Obama.

But sweep away their self serving statements and get down to the bottom line...

They are stretching and twisting themselves into corkscrews over helping some candidates and not others. Ignoring bad things about certain ones and magnifying things about others out of all proportion.

And in the end, they and the WSJ who has been for Romney but is now open to Santorum, agree on which candidates are underserving of support or defense.

And those candidates are the most qualified ones to lead a nation in these times.

And those candidates are not lawyers.


44 posted on 02/22/2012 7:22:41 AM PST by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: LZ_Bayonet; Cincinatus' Wife

Romney’s words are meaningless.

Too many incarnations.

Liberal.

Moderate.

Conservative.

Blowing with the political winds.

With ever changing words.


45 posted on 02/22/2012 7:28:02 AM PST by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The whole article is a setup to this sentence:

Once Santorum starts spouting about banning birth control and abolishing public schools, he will be like those Populists who were suddenly heard sprinkling their calls for free coinage of silver with vegetarianism and mystical interpretations of the Bible -- the things that historian Richard Hofstadter said reflected "too many long nights on the prairie."

The author knows this is a completely false analogy but wants to make it anyway, and in doing so completely loses his argument.

46 posted on 02/22/2012 9:34:08 AM PST by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
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To: txrangerette; Cincinatus' Wife; onyx; hoosiermama
Now they are all about Mitt and Rick Santorum. Long articles in general defense of Rick and the social issue comments becoming such a big part of the campaign. This, from the WSJ Romney wing.

... Rush and Levin, especially, helped Santorum's rise...Levin openly endorsing Santorum, Rush tacitly helping him while stopping short of endorsing.

All the media from all spectrums have generally treated Newt as if he had a catching disease and needs to be quarantined.

Glaringly, instead of trying to help Mitt by dissing Santorum, their tactics were to treat Santorum with kid gloves.

I think they realize Mitt is in bad trouble and they have to be careful how to play this.

Yes! Nobody from GOP-E came out at Santorum, the way they came out at Gingrich not just personally but also sought to destroy his small government / Reaganite / Tea Party credentials ("Reagan didn't really like him | he dissed Reagan 'in private' | he was a 'lobbyist' | he was 'ethically challenged' and 'fined' by Congress | his Congress 'colleagues' didn't like him | he was 'erratic' and not focused...)

Rush is now "carrying water" for Santorum, trying to "explain" and "translate" him positively in the way he was "carrying water" for Bush, McCain and Romney, but was regularly negatively "translating" Newt Gingrich, even after Newt explained to him and audience the problems he was seeing ("Ryan's Medicare plan," Boehner's budget fight and government shutdown and other strategy mistakes by GOP Congress) and where he wanted to take the party.

Others (like Levin) have either endorsed Santorum or have no problems with another big government guy, as long as he is social conservative.

See The GOP's Working Class Muddle (Santorum, Romney and class-warfare) - FR, 2012 February 02 / WSJ, by Kimberley A. Strassel, 2012 January 06

Nobody is even trying to link Romney and/or Santorum to Reagan or Tea Party movement. But that is OK with them, that absurdly vicious overkill attack was only aimed at Gingrich.

Newt is the only one in the race to represent small government / Tea Party, and they are afraid to death of him... Santorum, not really a problem to them, he is one of them, the insider playing outsider.

Romney vs Santorum is like Clinton vs Obama 4 years ago - Dems knew Clinton was one of them (it was her turn), but Obama was fine with them too - both were Alinsky disciples.

Santorum is not getting vetted, and whatever the flaws are, they are being smoothed or hidden by omission or commission behind the veneer of the "man from steel [union] town" ("place called Hope" anyone?) by elite in "conservative" media) for the exact same reason they all so furiously attacked Newt from the left (calling him anti-capitalist) for exposing Romney, actually accusing Newt of attacking "from the left" their chosen favorite son.

Santorum is their "strategic alternative" - Santorum/Romney is fine with them just as it would be Romney/Santorum (or other accepted "social conservative" to "balance" the ticket.

Gingrich is a "leper" to them all (including Rush, who Newt expected would be naturally receptive to his ideas, or at least not an enemy) because of Newt's small government mindset and Tea Party credentials.

If the Tea Party people don't get organized and vote now in support of Newt, they will not have a champion or representation in Washington, they'll be fractured and marginalized, from both the Right elite and the Left, time and again - they'll be just another small "group" / faction, like [now badly fractured] social conservatives, that the GOP-E will only cater to when they need votes.

47 posted on 02/22/2012 11:27:02 AM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: txrangerette; Cincinatus' Wife
They are stretching and twisting themselves into corkscrews over helping some candidates and not others. Ignoring bad things about certain ones and magnifying things about others out of all proportion. And in the end, they and the WSJ who has been for Romney but is now open to Santorum, agree on which candidates are undeserving of support or defense.

I usually think of pretzels in this context, instead of corkscrews, but that's exactly right and has been pretty transparent since SC - FL time frame.

48 posted on 02/22/2012 11:37:36 AM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: CutePuppy; Cincinatus' Wife

Thanks, cp, for the added analysis.

Today Rush did try to tie Reagan to Santorum. CW heard it, although I didn’t.

Seems he said Reagan spoke of family values and of evil, and that the left tried to get Reagan to back down but he didn’t, and now they try to get Santorum to back down because they hate him like they hated Reagan, so that’s how Rush tried to tie them in.

Hello??

The left also hate Sarah Palin, Rick Perry and Newt Gingrich.

But that doesn’t qualify as tying into Reagan, in Rush’s book, if your name is Newt Gingrich.


49 posted on 02/22/2012 12:12:23 PM PST by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: CutePuppy; txrangerette

Bump!!


50 posted on 02/22/2012 12:24:20 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Mitt is out of touch with anyone not in his pup tent on the country club’s golf course. They got the Rinos guards dressed in pink pants armed with golf clubs, beating off voters who try to get in.

I have often said, Rinos do not mind being a permanent minority wing of the Democrat Party. Their real opposition is the majority of Americans - conservatives. They would rather have Obama in the White House than a conservative. They want the Senate and don’t mind the Dems controlling the House and White House. They were not happy with the Party movement that made the GOP the majority in the House because it added conservatives. They have to be sidelined - again.


51 posted on 02/22/2012 12:59:13 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson

They believe “independents” will rationalize leaving Obama in the WH, ‘cause they’ll vote for a power split and give RINOs control of Congress.


52 posted on 02/22/2012 1:11:45 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

They assume independents are moderates - liberals. They are not. They are conservatives, communists and most who don’t know their foot from the leg of their chair.

The last group can be swayed by whoever comes up with an appealing freedom spirit and agenda and can argue it. Newt. Obama got them last time with the messiah act.

Rinos like to pretend, like the other party, that the independents are all “moderates” (liberals) like them wanting to be ruled and controlled by their politically correct betters in life - the “smart” people.


53 posted on 02/22/2012 1:37:13 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“In other words, a natural ally might be Mitt Romney, or someone very like him.”

In other words...

Nahhhhh...I’ll pass...

And anyone very like him...Pass...

Why would Mitt Romney be the political standard that the Tea Party needs to emulate???

If anything, people who have genuine/honest uncompramising conservative beliefs will eventually disengage from the increasingly politically moderating/compramising Republican party and form their own political force, that will have the weaker moderates caucusing with the Tea Party, or whatever it may eventually be called...

It is only a matter of time, and it will not be the end of the world if the Republican party disintegrates, as many opther political parties in this country have done...

It is nothing to be fearful of either...

Just my opinion...


54 posted on 02/22/2012 2:46:19 PM PST by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: txrangerette

I am so disappointed in Rush. I haven’t been interested in listening to him simce that day he came down so hard on Newt.

I haven’t bought any Two if by Tea since then either.


55 posted on 02/22/2012 5:01:03 PM PST by jch10
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To: txrangerette; Cincinatus' Wife; All
Today Rush did try to tie Reagan to Santorum. ... Seems he said Reagan spoke of family values and of evil, and that the left tried to get Reagan to back down but he didn't...

Of course, they urgently need to put forward either Santorum or Romney (as the author of this article tries to do) as the "natural ally" of small government / Tea Party voters, or they have major problems even in the primaries (as suppressed voter participation has shown) let alone in November, because TP is not represented / "balanced" by either one of them.

There is a reason why Santorum talks only (and not very articulately) about religion and presumed, but artificial, "family values" issues, and why Romney talks about "executive/management experience" with the rest filled in with platitudes - it's because they have nothing else to fall back on, in their actual public or private experiences.

But neither has the credentials to show for small government (a unifying "glue" which represents and unites a majority of conservatives) so the "conservative elite" media has to emphasize that aspect to "pump up" their conservative image - therefore, they will use any buzzword or reference, however tangential, that can tie them to "Reagan" - just as they used "Reagan" in attacking and trying to destroy Gingrich.

McCain constantly talked about being a "soldier in the Reagan's army" and nobody was buying it - just like they are not buying it from Romney or Santorum, so the established practitioners of "conservative media" have to artificially "implant" the "Reagan" credentials into them, to give credibility with the small government / Tea Party who are already leery of GOP (as evidenced by 2010 elections and the turnout in these primaries).

As W.C. Fields said, "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull [manure]."

That seems to be exactly what is going on now with the "conservative" media.

56 posted on 02/22/2012 6:03:43 PM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: CutePuppy

As W.C. Fields said, “If you can’t dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull [manure].”

That seems to be exactly what is going on now with the “conservative” media.

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Exactly.


57 posted on 02/23/2012 4:21:34 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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