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POLL: If Obama Is Indeed a Communist, Does This Mean Americans Wanted A Communist Government?
VANIT | 02-22-2012 | Veritas2002

Posted on 02/22/2012 8:05:40 AM PST by veritas2002

This is a serious question. Our very liberties are at stake and my sense is that Americans either: a. do not understand the system of government called for by our Constitution or b. have opted to scrap the Constitution and want a communist form of government. Why else would they vote for Obama?

Which do you think it is, or are their other explanations?


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To: goat granny
I started to call them the empty scrotums of Washington....

That is a nice politically correct turn of phrase. :-)

To find the true answer to this question do a search for Communists Goals, The Frankfurt School, and Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals. Those show the intent, how long they have been at it and the tactics they use. It is discouraging how close they are to obtaining all their goals.

61 posted on 02/22/2012 10:04:37 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot
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To: Westbrook

Really? I know a whole lot of Obama voters who now regret that decision. You’d have to go to some real inner-city ‘hoods to find anyplace where he is still popular around here.


62 posted on 02/22/2012 10:16:07 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
Being 73 I have been watching it happen since the 60s. When people would talk about a secret conspiracy, I'd say hells bells its not secret, it wide open for those that have eyes...those radicals of the 60’s have come of age and now run the government and the alphabet soup departments..not until they all die out will things slowly change....the ship of state doesn't turn on a dime anymore than an aircraft carrier does...we need a president that will make the start of the turn around. De fund those idiot EPA, ADA, BATFE DEPT OF EDUCATION (CARTERS PAYOFF TO THE TEACHERS UNION)DEPT OF COMMERCE, AND ALL THE REST EXCEPT DEPT OF DEFENSE...Impeach lawyers that think they are legislators, tort reform, loser pays, class action lawsuits that only puts money in the pockets of lawyers....etc etc etc...
63 posted on 02/22/2012 10:20:30 AM PST by goat granny
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To: veritas2002
Americans these days respond to slick sales pitches like never before. Check out the TV big bucks advertisements to which the viewing public respond by spending bigger bucks.
64 posted on 02/22/2012 10:21:43 AM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: goat granny

made error, impeach Judges that think they are legislators.. not lawyers they cannot be impeached...


65 posted on 02/22/2012 10:23:37 AM PST by goat granny
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To: veritas2002
The American people don't realize that the government officials of communist countries never live a communist lifestyle themselves.

-PJ

66 posted on 02/22/2012 10:23:40 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: veritas2002

I think we’ve had it.


67 posted on 02/22/2012 10:32:57 AM PST by onedoug
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To: veritas2002
Why else would they vote for Obama?

Because all of the warnings about what he truly is came from folks like us, to whom they will never listen as we have been portrayed as right wing ideologues. Even when the proof is before their eyes and ears, they will shut their eyes tightly, cover their ears and chant la, la, la, LA, LA, LAAAA!

68 posted on 02/22/2012 10:44:02 AM PST by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: GizzyGirl
Some don’t even know what it means

Bingo. I'd wager that 1/3 of obama voters could not even provide a high-school-level definition of communism.

Before the 2008 election, I warned a 20-something co-worker that obama was a proponent a socialism. He said, "Isn't that when the corporations control everything?" He was an obama supporter.

69 posted on 02/22/2012 10:45:23 AM PST by matt1234 (Bring back the HUAC.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

> You’d have to go to some real inner-city ‘hoods to find
> anyplace where he is still popular around here.

Nope.

My workplace is filled with university-educated liberals. There is none that I’ve talked to that regret voting for the 0bama0. They will all enthusiastically vote for it again.

In my family are university educated liberals. They are the same.

It’s only we rednecks in the family, and here at work, that take exception to communists.

One of the guys at work calls himself a “progressive”. Just a euphemism for commie.


70 posted on 02/22/2012 10:51:36 AM PST by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: veritas2002
No, they were sold Hope and Change by a charlatan.
71 posted on 02/22/2012 11:08:20 AM PST by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: Westbrook

Some people are very easily led and proud OF it!


72 posted on 02/22/2012 12:05:17 PM PST by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: goat granny

I, too, am 73 and have been attentive to it since the 1940s. I had two uncles in WWII and the entire household was keen on any news about it. They also, unfortunately, were FDR fans but I think that is more because the media were championing him and his New Deal.

A very popular young athlete in our neighborhood was killed in Korea when the Chinese stormed across the border at the Chosin Reservoir. That brought that war home also. The 60s were hippie time and once again the media trumpeted the destruction of our value system with drugs and free love (sex). One of its main purposes was to win the Vietnam war for the Communists. It worked as they built support for the Democrats to betray our ally, the South Vietnamese.

What a lot of people don’t know and something I did not list, is the real beginning of the Communist push in this country. That is Vladimir Lenin sending Julius and Armand Hammer to the U.S. in the late 1800s to raise money to support the beginning of the Communist movement in Russia and in their eventual overthrow of Tsar Nicholas II.

Hammer was very successful and among his early recruits to the cause were Arthur Ochs Sulzberger, whose family controlled and published The New York Times, and Senator Albert Gore, Sr., of Tennessee. Ever since, both have been agents for the Communist Party in the USA. It is an interesting story and everyone should learn it. As part of that, do research on Al Gore and the Elk Hills Naval Petroleum Reserve in California and Occidental Petroleum (owned by Armand Hammer) and oil drilling in South America. Brazil, I think but not sure.

The Democrats were strongly opposed to drilling in both places but as VP Gore pulled strings and opened the door for Occidental in both places. Elk Hills was being held in reserve for use by the navy in times of war, thus the name. The Democrats opposed oil drilling in SA because they said it would destroy the “rain forest” and disturb the native indians ancestral home. They had stopped efforts by other U.S. oil companies to drill there. Occidental said to hell with all that and plowed ahead.

I have lived it all and I always payed attention.


73 posted on 02/22/2012 12:05:21 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot
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To: veritas2002

The education about our history was replaced about 15-20 years ago by only history from the 1960’s onward.The youngsters have been indoctrinated to this begin a good thing and there is nothing you can do to get them to realize that this is all a lie.I guess once we all all enslaved they may realize it wasn’t such a good idea?


74 posted on 02/22/2012 12:17:09 PM PST by chris_bdba
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To: veritas2002

I’m sorry, but when >50% of the people make a living from USG, then they are going to vote for more government.

Gee, most of the people who are part of this game are smart enough to call it something other than communism or socialism.

The main game of the modern intellectual, Harvard boys, is to _rename_ things to solve them.


75 posted on 02/22/2012 1:12:50 PM PST by veracious
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To: veritas2002
POLL: If Obama Is Indeed a Communist, Does This Mean Americans Wanted A Communist Government?

No.
It means that one third of Obama voters have no clue what "communism" means or what its results have been worldwide in the last 100 years.

Enough to decide the election.

The Idiocracy arrived four years ago.

76 posted on 02/22/2012 1:33:48 PM PST by Publius6961 (My world was lovely, until it was taken over by parasites.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Hopefully, enough people realize he was a definite change, but for the worse.

I recall when I first heard the mindless phrase "Change," my immediate reaction and response was WTF? What does that mean?
Getting cancer is "change"... getting struck by a feight train is "change." I have been repeating that response regularly ever since.

Odumbo never bothered to define the word then and he never has. But his actions and the results make his intention unequivocal.

77 posted on 02/22/2012 1:54:10 PM PST by Publius6961 (My world was lovely, until it was taken over by parasites.)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
I hope I didn't offend you with my last answer to you. If you took it that way, its not the way I meant it...People our age had family in WW2, and my brother was drafted during the Korean war (oops we were suppose to call it a police action)but my brother spent his army time in Germany.

The Chinese army came across the Korean border in the thousands....I have heard (probably you have also) people talk about doing something with N. Korea. They probably aren't up the geography and don't know Korea borders Communist china.

The MSM was worse back in the Nam days, there was no alternative voice to that nit wit Walter Cronkite.. and Johnson once bragged in an interview that nothing was bombed in Nam unless he gave the ok....Typical democrat president with the blood of thousands on his hands.

Even today with the rules of engagement for our military, send our men out and then tie their hands, may all that do that go to hell....The ridiculous don't urinate toward Mecca makes a farce, not out of men but those gutless wonders, powdered princes in the upper ranks of the military..It seems that the lawyers in the military get off on taking our warriors to Court Marshal...when they are innocent of the charges...God, how I hate them and I never thought I would say that about anyone...

78 posted on 02/22/2012 3:28:36 PM PST by goat granny
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To: goat granny

You and I are in complete agreement. I don’t know what in my reply may have made you think differently but I was not offended by anything you said. I was just trying to say that since we are the same age that I saw things the same way you did. My explanation was just to verify that, not to say anything offensive.


79 posted on 02/22/2012 6:56:07 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot
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To: veritas2002

Most people in America haven’t ever learned how evil and bloodthirsty the 100 year experiment in Communism was for the Soviet Union and China. Schools have been infiltrated already so that the facts were not taught.


80 posted on 02/22/2012 9:17:01 PM PST by Seeing More Clearly Now
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