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Santorum 'homophobic,' former Wyoming Senator says
KTVQ ^ | 2/22/12 | Robert Hendin, Alicia Budich

Posted on 02/22/2012 9:35:34 AM PST by NoPinkos

Former Senator Alan Simpson had some choice words for his one time colleague, former Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum.

"I know Santorum, I served with him," he said. "He is rigid and a homophobic. He believes that gays and lesbians, he mentioned in an interview in 2003, about bestiality, and gays and lesbians. I think that's disgusting," said Simpson.

The former three-term Senator from Wyoming has always been known for both his candor and his ability to work across party lines, said Republicans are hurting themselves by focusing on social issues.

"Here's a party that believes in government out of your life, the precious right of privacy and the right to be left alone. How then can they be the hypocrisy of fiddling around in these social issues? We won't have a prayer," he told Bob Schieffer in an interview for CBS News's Face to Face, a weekly web interview from the staff of Face the Nation....

Simpson's prognosis about the focus on social issues could prove true in November's general election....

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: Wyoming
KEYWORDS: alansimpson; homophobic; homosexualagenda; kenyanbornmuzzie; mittromney; newtgingrich; ricksantorum; santorum; simpson; troll
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Here's a party that believes in government out of your life, the precious right of privacy and the right to be left alone. How then can they be the hypocrisy of fiddling around in these social issues?

Good question....

1 posted on 02/22/2012 9:35:39 AM PST by NoPinkos
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To: NoPinkos

Wtf is wrong with that man (Simpson)?

For one thing, the GOP including Santorum has NOT focused on social issues. Santorum has committed any sin except being a decent man.


2 posted on 02/22/2012 9:38:40 AM PST by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: NoPinkos

Well Allen, where do you draw the line? Just another anything goes apologist. These folks just want to have a free for all. True anarchists


3 posted on 02/22/2012 9:39:32 AM PST by refermech
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To: NoPinkos

Simpson ‘useful idiot,’ current FReeper says


4 posted on 02/22/2012 9:40:30 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: NoPinkos

Also the claim of homophobia is not based on Simpson “knowing” Santorum, it is based on a public statement by Santorum.

I guess Simpsom believes GOP needs to stand for Gays On Parade. I don’t.

Gays are fine with me, doesn’t mean they have to get married, raise kids, or teach everyone about having “two moms”.

I think Alan Simpson is a skeeve. Go back to the Clarence Thomas hearings, where Simpson started making bizarre sexual remarks.


5 posted on 02/22/2012 9:44:26 AM PST by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: beaversmom

"He would never pick up the soap whenever I dropped it! I think he must be homophobic." Simpson said.


6 posted on 02/22/2012 9:44:30 AM PST by o2bfree
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To: NoPinkos

Government staying out of your private life, means you get to believe what you want to in your private life.

Including, you have the right to uphold a 3000 year old moral tradition. The one our system of liberty and limited government is rooted in.


7 posted on 02/22/2012 9:45:01 AM PST by marron
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To: NoPinkos

Simpson was chosen by Obama to be on his econ-ignore team because he’s a dyed in the wool rino.

Santorum has already explained why social issues are important: when the family fails, then America fails.

Is it any simpler than that? These behaviors cripple the family, and that cripples the nation.

It’s like saying, “He Ruskie-Phobic. I thought we were sposed to mind our own business, not russia’s. So, let’s get rid of the military.”

Cripple the military and you cripple the nation.


8 posted on 02/22/2012 9:45:27 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: NoPinkos

Not even a real question.

Calling or labeling something WRONG is not invading anyones bedroom.

You seem to advocate anything goes - sexually. As if no one should feel guilty about their ‘leanings’ and that no one really can say what is right or wrong. Rubbish.

In the article, Santorum spoke of bestiality and homosexuality. For the record, BOTH behaviors (and they are behaviors) are wrong, reprehensible and disgusting, having no positives for society at large. So, IF you are unable to say thet homosexuality is wrong, what then allows you to say that bestiality is? That necrophilia is? That polygamy is? Oh, what a slippery slope you find yourself on.

There IS a definition of right and wrong, unchanging per societal winds, called the bible. What was wrong 4000 years ago, surprisingly is still wrong today, despite your desire to believe otherwise.

IF you allow wrong to exist, without calling it out, labelling it as such, it will flourish and we see those fruits today (no pun intended). I for one am not blinded by
gray areas, and moral relativism. It is wrong.


9 posted on 02/22/2012 9:46:21 AM PST by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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To: NoPinkos; All

I guess it’s the difference between the Liberterian viewpoint that pretty much says if it doesn’t hurt someone leave it alone, and the Conservative fundamentalist view that if the bible says it’s a sin then government might have a right to “fix” it. This is probably one of the reasons that our founders included separation of Church and State in the First Amendment.


10 posted on 02/22/2012 9:46:46 AM PST by gleeaikin
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To: o2bfree

Yeah Alan, the GOP better support gay marriage, just like Barack ...oops!

Guess even Obama’s not that stupid, you jackass Simpson.


11 posted on 02/22/2012 9:46:46 AM PST by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: NoPinkos
His argument is precisely why we want government out of the lives of Americans as much as possible. We must be immune to the trends, fads, hysteria, etc. that influence individuals and groups.

By allowing government to confer special rights, one concedes that our rights come from the government.

12 posted on 02/22/2012 9:47:03 AM PST by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: NoPinkos

Peer inside the skull bone tweets of real gerbalists like Alicia Budicha, Bob Sheiffer, Norah O’Donnell, David Gregory, etc., if you dare.
Notice how carefully they are discussing GOPers.

http://twitter.com/#!/budicha


13 posted on 02/22/2012 9:47:06 AM PST by tumblindice (Whitey-American: Taxed Enough Already)
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To: NoPinkos
If I wouldn't accept lecturing on my religion from a Sikh or a Buddhist why would I want to be lectured on my religion by an atheist?

Better yet, why are the atheists lecturing Christians ONLY and not other believers of other faiths? It gets a little ridiculous!

14 posted on 02/22/2012 9:48:03 AM PST by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: tumblindice

Taking the position the Bible states and having the balls to say that position aloud is homophobic nowadays. I didn’t realize Santorum was afraid of homosexuals, did you?


15 posted on 02/22/2012 9:48:54 AM PST by bigdirty
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To: NoPinkos
No... the gay movement is radical and activist based and has infected and stolen the moral fabric of our republic... and any backlash or push back against these homosexual radicals results in the simposonistic bullshit that we read here! Many of us stand against radical homosexuals that want to revamp America into a modern Sodom. We do NOT care what they do inside their homes and amongst consenting adults... but they want to own education, they want their sickness codified into law and taught in schools and they want to corrupt the Church into changing GOD's Commandments to remove any resistance to their evil. An example is that the gay community said that they only wanted to openly serve in the military... and now they want the military to give them super status... just like they want to be more equal than any other CITIZEN in America.

LLS

16 posted on 02/22/2012 9:48:57 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Hey repubic elite scumbags... jam mitt up your collective arses!)
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To: NoPinkos

works across party lines = criticizes fellow Republicans


17 posted on 02/22/2012 9:49:42 AM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: Williams

“Wtf is wrong with that man (Simpson)?”

the guy is what- 90? He dodders on a good day.

What Santorum said is that the homsexual argument you have the “right” to marry whoever you love could apply to incest, bestiality and polygamy. And if not, then why does the “law” get to allow some free-will marriages but not others?


18 posted on 02/22/2012 9:50:56 AM PST by silverleaf (Funny how all the people who are for abortion are already born)
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To: NoPinkos

No it’s not a good question. Destroying traditonal marriage along with the basic tenants of Christianity has nothing to do with being left alone.


19 posted on 02/22/2012 9:51:24 AM PST by ohioman
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To: NoPinkos

No it’s not a good question. Destroying traditional marriage along with the basic tenants of Christianity has nothing to do with being left alone.


20 posted on 02/22/2012 9:51:51 AM PST by ohioman
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To: Last Dakotan

“The former three-term Senator from Wyoming has always been known for both his candor and his ability to work across party lines,”

Beat me to it! Alicia has awarded Simpson the much coveted John McCain “Moderate RINO” Memorial award.


21 posted on 02/22/2012 9:52:04 AM PST by tumblindice (Whitey-American: Taxed Enough Already)
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To: NoPinkos

A relative of mine wrote a blog posting that was mildly critical of Simpson back when he was working on Obama’s deficit commission. Was stunned to learn that the ex-Senator TOOK PAINS TO TRACK HIM DOWN, to CALL HIM IN PERSON and to ARGUE AND CHASTISE HIM FOR THE CRITICISM!

What you are dealing with here is an extreme egomaniac who always has to be right and who has an extremely thin skin. To the point that he will spend time and money chasing down any small-time blogger who criticizes him.

I’m waiting for your call, Senator.


22 posted on 02/22/2012 9:52:47 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: gleeaikin

Since when does Santorum want to ban homosexuality?


23 posted on 02/22/2012 9:53:12 AM PST by conservativebuckeye
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To: NoPinkos

homop: irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals

I doubt sincerely that Santorum fears homosexuals. What he fears is the damage they do to society and themselves.
I sincerely doubt his aversion to homosexuals is irrational. As a Christian his aversion is to their sin of homosexual actions not to the person and that is very rational.
Homophobia is a nonsense word made up by the left to denigrate anyone that does not agree with homosexual actions.
So I suggest the old fart Senator STFU and MoveOn...........


24 posted on 02/22/2012 9:53:16 AM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: Williams

“Wtf is wrong with that man (Simpson)?”

He’ll likely be running as the Obama-Financed 3rd Party “Americans Elect” Candidate...

This has been around for a while.


25 posted on 02/22/2012 9:53:40 AM PST by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: NoPinkos

While Rome burns we will be fiddling with Santorum’s theological views. The economy really is that bad, to the point you could lose many of your religious freedoms. Greece is now ruled by an outside Eurocrat, bankruptcy can also cause severe moral decay.


26 posted on 02/22/2012 9:54:22 AM PST by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: NoPinkos

I suggest someone come up with a factual, poll and election based retort to Neil Bortz type libertarians and establishment type Republicans.
We should NOT try to change minds on the abortion issue or the gay marriage issue, with this work.

We should instead approach them with the “Hey, I respect YOUR beliefs, but you are wrong to say that Social Conservatism is bad for the Republican Party Because history and statistics proves otherwise!”

Show the number of times gay marriage has been defeated at the polls, even in LIBERAL states.

Show the actual exit polls on the abortion issue. NRLC has often highlighted the “prolife increment” that shows that most of those who vote, single-issue, on abortion, vote prolife.

Show the fact that, when it comes to actual LEGISLATION, like Parental Consent, Parental Notification, Informed Consent, 3rd trimester bans, bans on tax funding of abortion, safety regs for abortion provider offices, etc., that the PROLIFE side wins majorities in ANY public opinion survey.

I am a Newt guy, but at this moment I think Rick S. has a real shot.

You Santorum folks need to do your research and come up with factual, statistical, historically accurate responses, however, if you want to help Rick fight off this garbage.

“Elections are not about saving souls, elections are about getting souls who agree with you, to the Polls!”

Show the squishy crowd and the Libertarian crowd that they are WRONG on the “electability” issue.

Then? The naysayers and cowards will be forced to admit that they are opposed to the social conservative message, itself, rather than “electability”.

This, alone, will SILENCE much of the opposition in RINO and Libertarian camps.


27 posted on 02/22/2012 9:54:22 AM PST by Kansas58
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To: NoPinkos

Does a fetus with a full complement of human DNA have a right to privacy?

.. does the trip down the birth canal and closure of the ductus Botalli confer the right?


28 posted on 02/22/2012 9:54:38 AM PST by seton89 (Are the Ten Commandments a living document?)
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To: NoPinkos
There is a big difference between hating gays versus refusing to go along with the gay promoting agenda.
We're letting the left label the issues again. That has to stop.

29 posted on 02/22/2012 9:56:11 AM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: NoPinkos
I think this tells us a great deal
about the character of Alan Simpson.

30 posted on 02/22/2012 9:58:14 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: NoPinkos
"He is rigid and a homophobic. He believes that gays and lesbians, he mentioned in an interview in 2003, about bestiality, and gays and lesbians. I think that's disgusting," said Simpson.

What the heck does that mean?

Only a fractured mind could use such fractured syntax to make such a fractured point.

31 posted on 02/22/2012 9:59:32 AM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: NoPinkos
Here's a party that believes in government out of your life, the precious right of privacy and the right to be left alone. How then can they be the hypocrisy of fiddling around in these social issues?

Progressive-think: It's none of your damn business what people do in their bedrooms! You will, of course, be expected to pay for anything that goes wrong.

32 posted on 02/22/2012 9:59:57 AM PST by servo1969
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To: NoPinkos
instead of attacking the false prophet "our" people make fools of themselves and attack social issues and each other....

I'm against abortion, don't think we should give condomns to 12 yro's and infact, don't believe sex education should even be taught in school....

but this constant diatribe on social issues is a losing issue....morality is encouraged by example, not by edict....

Simpson is long past his usefulness....nothing like joining the establishment line by knocking candidates not approved of....

33 posted on 02/22/2012 10:00:47 AM PST by cherry
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To: bigdirty

phobic: “afraid” The obverse being, phile. Santorum is saying he isn’t a homophile: He doesn’t favor, accept or endorse such things as buggery, `Sapphic love’, bestiality, necrophilia, etc., etc.
The left and its journo-organs oppose any expressions of opposition to libertine sexual matters. This is why Simpson is regularly trundled out and his plastic ring-string pulled. He’s a salty old Republican—from the other side. And he’s used to impeach a possible opposing front-runner’s credibility. The sad thing is, Simpson knows what he’s doing. He craves approval.
On a different (somewhat related) note, I was amused to see someone here state that they were surprised Drudge gave Santorum’s speech from years back his headline yesterday on this same topic, thinking, “This disproves the notion that Drudge is Romney supporter.” Incredible.


34 posted on 02/22/2012 10:01:26 AM PST by tumblindice (Whitey-American: Taxed Enough Already)
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To: cherry

Does this make Simpson GOD-A-PHOBIC ?


35 posted on 02/22/2012 10:02:57 AM PST by Blue Turtle
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Sign me up for that too...!!

Mr. Alan Simpson....you are just a pawn. Get over yourself. You are just another member of the GOP-E....

The country is going to hell in a hand basket....and the Dim's are driving the bus. Yet you seem to have to denigrate fellow party members!?!?!?!

Go back to retirement...and shut the hell up.

36 posted on 02/22/2012 10:03:33 AM PST by Osage Orange (A clear conscience is the sign of a fuzzy memory.)
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To: NoPinkos
“Here's a party that believes in government out of your life, the precious right of privacy and the right to be left alone. How then can they be the hypocrisy of fiddling around in these social issues?”

This statement is dishonest. The taxpayers today are being forced to subsidize the immoral, decadent and self-indulgent lifestyles of the Democrats. Taxpayer money is used to fund planned parenthood and other organizations. Taxpayer money is used to fund homosexual groups. Taxpayer money is used to treat the sexually transmitted diseases that are part of their lifestyle. Taxpayer money is used to treat their drug problems. Taxpayer money is used to support them and their illegitimate children. First you claim you don't want the government involved in your lifestyle. That is fine with me. Then you whine about how you want the taxpayers to pay for the consequences of your lifestyle.

37 posted on 02/22/2012 10:03:46 AM PST by detective
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To: NoPinkos

These old fossil RINOs never go away, just like the Klintoons, McCains & what will be the same with Big Ears & Mooochelle.


38 posted on 02/22/2012 10:03:46 AM PST by Digger (If RINO is your selection then failure is your election)
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To: Kansas58
Luke 9:5

“And whosoever will not receive you, when ye go out of that city, shake off the very dust from your feet for a testimony against them.”

Matthew 10:14

“And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.”

When the republican party will not listen to those that finance and vote for them... it only leaves me and others with one thing to do... and JESUS was clear on this point. My patience with the corrupt and infected republican party is not unlimited and is approaching my final limit.

LLS

39 posted on 02/22/2012 10:04:30 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Hey repubic elite scumbags... jam mitt up your collective arses!)
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To: NoPinkos
The 2003 quote: "If the Supreme Court says that you have the right to consensual [gay] sex within your home, then you have the right to bigamy, you have the right to polygamy, you have the right to incest, you have the right to adultery. You have the right to anything. Does that undermine the fabric of our society? I would argue yes, it does. ... That's not to pick on homosexuality. It's not, you know, man on child, man on dog, or whatever the case may be. It is one thing."

Please note that Santorum specifically said that it's not pederasty or beastiality.

So now the establishment RINOs are lining up for TV spots so they can attack Santorum but at a minimum they should get their quotes right.

40 posted on 02/22/2012 10:07:04 AM PST by Pietro
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To: refermech
Well Allen, where do you draw the line? Just another anything goes apologist.

He always was. Conservatives just weren't paying attention. His big mouth rivals Joe Biden's as well.

41 posted on 02/22/2012 10:07:38 AM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: gleeaikin
This is probably one of the reasons that our founders included separation of Church and State in the First Amendment.

WOW...you must have the "new, upgraded version of the Constitution" that you're referencing. Could you please quote where that appears in the First amendment? My version has no such inclusion.

42 posted on 02/22/2012 10:08:51 AM PST by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: tumblindice

Just the establishment trying to derail Santorum. The fear is turning into panic.


43 posted on 02/22/2012 10:10:47 AM PST by JayAr36
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To: 2nd amendment mama

A prime example of US public education.

LLS


44 posted on 02/22/2012 10:14:32 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Hey repubic elite scumbags... jam mitt up your collective arses!)
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To: NoPinkos

Was Reagan hurt because he was pro-life and pro-family? Was GW Bush? Of course not.


45 posted on 02/22/2012 10:17:43 AM PST by iowamark (The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, But in ourselves)
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To: marron

Amen! The ridiculous term “homophobic” is designed to denigrate anyone who believes homosexuality is wrong. Nobody cares what these people do in the privacy of their own homes, but they want to force their perversion on the rest of us. In particular, they should not be allowed to adopt children. If you don’t think there is a greater risk of sexual abuse of children in such situations, you have not been paying attention to the news.


46 posted on 02/22/2012 10:18:27 AM PST by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: NoPinkos

Alan Simpson....sell outy on immigration; sell out on cutting spending; gone over the hill ong ago——shoulda stayed there


47 posted on 02/22/2012 10:19:44 AM PST by Nifster
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To: silverleaf

Simpson in his dotage cannot understand this basic premise. Dennis Prager in debating this question with a gay activist asked the same question, why not adult incest or polygamy. The activist’s only answer was that incest and polygamy where “icky”. Prager than informed the activist that millions of Americans include homosexuality in the “icky” catagory. Another Prager brilliant statement was that gay people are not discrimated against in marraige. They have the perfect right to marry someone of the opposite sex as everbody else.


48 posted on 02/22/2012 10:20:23 AM PST by gusty
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To: NoPinkos

And you joined FR just so you could rip Santorum....what are your conservative creds????


49 posted on 02/22/2012 10:21:56 AM PST by Nifster
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To: NoPinkos

Pa Kettle cranks out another dumb’un! LOL Bob


50 posted on 02/22/2012 10:23:01 AM PST by alstewartfan (27 of 36 of Romney's judicial appointments were DEMOCRATS!!!!!)
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