Skip to comments.Team Santorum: America is with Rick on belief in the existence of the devil
Posted on 02/22/2012 12:54:19 PM PST by SeekAndFind
MESA, Ariz. -- Some of Rick Santorum's advisers are frustrated and angry that reporters are focusing more on their candidate's statements about Satan than on his positions on the issues. Here in Arizona Tuesday, Santorum faced repeated questioning about portions of a 2008 speech at a Catholic university in Florida in which he said, "Satan is attacking the great institutions of America."
"I don't know what's newsmaking that Rick Santorum believes in right and wrong, good and evil, God and the devil," says one campaign aide. "I really don't know how that's out of the mainstream."
It's not. In 2007, the Gallup polling organization asked Americans whether they believe in God, in heaven, in hell, and in the devil. The results: 86 percent of those questioned said they believed in God, 81 percent in heaven, 70 percent in the devil, and 69 percent in hell.
Just 21 percent of those questioned said they do not believe in the devil, giving Satan a healthy 70-21 believe/disbelieve ratio. (Eight percent said they weren't sure.)
Santorum's aides believe it is unfair that reporters are asking questions about aspects of Santorum's faith and not asking similar questions about Mitt Romney's. Of course, Santorum has spoken more publicly about the details of his religious beliefs than Romney has, and that is why some of the questions are popping up now. On the other hand, some in the Santorum camp are pointing to a 2007 interview Romney did with Iowa radio talk show host Jan Mickelson in which Mickelson essentially goaded Romney into discussing, off-air but on-camera, a few details of Mormon beliefs. ("The Church says that Christ appears and splits the Mount of Olives in Jerusalem," Romney told Mickelson. "Thats what the Church says. And then, over a thousand years of the millennium, that the world is reigned in two places, Jerusalem and Missouri. . . . The law will come from Missouri, and the other will be from Jerusalem.")
But specifically religious questioning of Romney is as rare as specific Romney statements about Mormon beliefs. Given the current grilling of Santorum, that is a source of growing frustration to Santorum's advisers. "Why is Mormonism off limits?" asks one. "I'm not saying it's a seminal issue in the campaign, but we're having to spend days answering questions about Rick's faith, which he has been open about. Romney will turn on a dime when you talk about religion. We're getting asked about specific tenets of Rick's faith, and when Romney says, 'I want to focus on the economy,' they say, OK, we'll focus on the economy."
UPDATE: After this was posted, the Santorum adviser called back to stress that his "off limits" point was not specifically about Mormonism but rather that Santorum alone is being questioned about religion. He asked why Newt Gingrich and Ron Paul, in addition to Romney, have not faced the level of questioning abour religion that Santorum has. In our original conversation, the adviser said, "If you're going to ask us, you need to ask everybody."
I wonder if Santorum will appear with ashes on his forehead...
i have no doubt he will have ashes.
But wait...I thought that last year, only 50% believed in God...
What if he does? So what. What if Newt does? Since he is a Catholic as well. So what? Is there a problem with that? I’m just asking.
A much more interesting question is; Will Newt?
The number of independents will soon be the majority/anti-you. Duh.
so, bye bye GOP ...
What’s so hard about this? When one of these questions come in, I would just say, “sorry, do you have any questions relevant to this campaign that I can answer for you. We’re not running for Pope”.
I’m just glad all those important issues are being addressed to the point where THIS is what we have to talk about.
I'm guessing you're applying that to Gingrich, who converted to Catholicism, as well.
RE: We should be talking about Obama and his destructive agenda not the devil
Don’t blame the GOP for this. BLAME THE MEDIA.
It was their research team that DUG UP a speech he made nearly 4 years ago IN A CATHOLIC UNIVERSITY to make an issue out of it. Of course Matt Drudge played along too and prominently displayed it on his site where MILLIONS of readers can see it.
Republicans did not make a big deal out of this — THE LAMESTREAM MEDIA DID.
So you think independents will rush to the party of homosexual marriage, abortion, infanticide and euthanasia so as not to be associated with those extreeeeme Christians who believe in God and aren't ashamed of it?
As screwed up as this country is Rick is letting the MSM direct his campaign. We all know that this will be a major portion of the debates tonight for Santo. All the while Newt will be telling the country how we can get out of this mess.
If Santo get’s the nod and keeps running on these social issues Obummer is going to clean his clock.
Although in the Christian East we begin Lent on a Monday with clean faces, I do hope both Santorum and Gingrich turn up at the debate with their Lenten ashes still in place.
Santorum believes Satan is attacking America.
Romney believes it is Jesus’s brother that is attacking America.
I realize this though, can't blame this all on the media. Rick brought this up and his supporters are making this a crusade vs. in which we should be using our time to explain carefully what Obama, has done.. not in this way in which the media will use it against any reforms.
Thats a pretty lame cheapshot. Just because he brings up his Christianity publicly doesnt mean he is doing it in order to be noticed. Maybe he really believes it and is trying to spread the Word. But you bash him on by trying to predict the motives on something that he might do.
As for the President race, all three of them are big government in ways. So calling Santorum big govt just opens up people to exposing Newt’s flaws.
Whatta perfect ticket: Mittens/Saint Rick 2012! VOTE AGAINST THE BROTHER DEVIL!
If they expected anything else they are incompetent. Exactly this behavior by the media has been predicted here multiple times.
As for Romney's more exotic Mormon beliefs, they're saving those for the general election if he gets the nom, which is what they expect.
Look, Santorum is the candidate who said just last October that he wanted to be a President who talked about the dangers of contraception. No one held a gun to his head and made him use the phrase "phony theology" or wax eloquent about how bad prenatal testing is. The fact that his staff is surprised at all the heat they're getting tells me they're simply not ready for prime time.
A biblical worldview includes the following beliefs:
absolute moral truth exists
the Bible is totally accurate in all of the principles it teaches
Satan is considered to be a real being or force, not merely symbolic
a person cannot earn their way into Heaven by trying to be good or do good works
Jesus Christ lived a sinless life on earth
God is the all-knowing, all-powerful creator of the world who still rules the universe today
What is on your head, considering where you seem to keep it?
Simple, just blame the media. Saint Rick says he’s no manager, and no visionary, blame the media. Wacky Saint Rick loses in November? Blame the media.
RE: Santorum is the candidate who said just last October that he wanted to be a President who talked about the dangers of contraception.
Interesting. Can you cite for us the reliable link for this? Just for our edification. Thanks.
RE: Saint Rick says hes no manager, and no visionary, blame the media
When did he say that?
So, let’s put in the full quote and NOT JUST STOP at “I’m not a visionary”.
Here’s the entire quote in context:
“I’m not a manager. I’m not a visionary,” he told the crowd in an apparent reference to his GOP rivals Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich. “I’m a guy from a steel town who grew up understanding what made this country great and for the years that I’ve been involved in public life, put my heart and my effort on the line to make this country the kind of country that we all want to hand on to our children and grandchildren.”
Santorum also touched on the fight over who’s the real “Washington insider,” saying the only reason Romney wasn’t a Washington politician is because he lost his Senate race in 1994.
“You hear a lot of talk about who’s the insider and who’s the outsider in this race. There’s a guy that’s outside of Washington, who was not a senator or a congressman not because he didn’t try but because he never got elected,” he said. In contrast, Santorum added, he was someone who was “an outsider when he was inside” Washington.
Romney’s Mormon idiosyncrasies will be grilled over coals if he gets the nomination. Repubs have been too polite.
The devil is hoping you DON’T believe in him.
RE: Santorum interview
And what was the context of his discussion?
NO FUNDING FOR BIRTH CONTROL.
And he would be right about that.
If someone wants to get a condom or pills, there’s an easy way to do it -— GO TO THE DRUG STORE. It’s legal you know.
Newt will have ashes too then.
It’s ridiculous to discuss tenets of their religions. Discuss instead that everyone here has a right to believe how they choose, from atheists to any of the major faiths. Period. Catholics believe in Satan. Big whoop. It’s ok to follow your beliefs.
Well I’m not with him on belief of the existence of the devil.
RE: Well Im not with him on belief of the existence of the devil.
I guess that would put you in the minority then. But that’s OK, Santorum won’t force anyone to believe in him.
Don’t let the door hit you newbie. How is the temp at Romney HQ?
Pray for America
[ Santorum’s aides believe it is unfair that reporters are asking questions about aspects of Santorum’s faith and not asking similar questions about Mitt Romney’s ]
Let’s talk about Obama’s Black Liberation Theology. Americans will be shocked at what the media hid from them in 2008. I bet they’ll choose the mainstream Catholic over the America-hating, racist Marxist any day of the week.
It is up to Santo tonight to quickly mock the media for their inappropriate religious focus, and simultaneously get the topic back to serious campaign issues.
HOW WELL SANTO DOES THIS DETERMINES HIS SUCCESS.
Luckily, he is doing this brilliantly and with dignity and not anger so far.
What’s so revolutionary about believing in Obama?
CNN would be negligent if they do not raise this as an issue in tonights' debate: Senator Santorum, do you believe America is under attack by a supernatural being named Satan? What evidence to you have to support your assertion?
You have also said that some mainline Protestant denominations have essentially fallen to that attack. Would you please tell us which ones?
You have also said that many Christians believe Mormonism is a cult, is that what you believe?
How can ANYONE think this should be off limits? The man is running for President of the United States and has publicly espoused these beliefs. The people who are called to cast their vote are entitled to hear the answer...on nationwide TV.
Better now than on the stage with Obama.
If you read the article, 70% of Americans - across all political divides - believe in the existence of the devil. If you think that is "extreme" and "going overboard," where does that put you? In the atheist camp? If so, you probably won't feel very comfortable around FR people, most of whom probably believe in the existence of objective evil, i.e., the devil.
BTW, good luck regarding your quest for "solutions" that denies that there is something very wrong abroad in our world, something which people of faith recognize as an evil spiritual influence. Radical liberals have long scoffed at the existence of the devil, attributing so-called "evil" to poor education and a lack of social programs - and Republicans in general - which causes people to do bad things.
Full boilerplate quote, spoken a million times by all kinds of politicians including Obama. If you take it seriously, you’re on the way to understanding the appeal of Obama’s empty talk.
Don’t let the door.....
Too bad the media doesnt go after Obamas speeches with such gusto. Maybe Obama would have been vetted better.
There is a devil. There is evil in the world. To ignore it is the same as condoning it.
None of the media personalities, editors, producers or owners know anyone who believes in right and wrong, good and evil, God and the devil.
"How can it not be 'out of the mainstream' when nobody I know believes in it?" Doh!