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One-armed man sues Starbucks for not hiring him
mynorthwest.com ^ | Feb. 21, 2012 | unknown

Posted on 02/22/2012 2:15:30 PM PST by matt1234

A man who was born with half a left arm is suing Starbucks for failing to hire him as a barista.

Eli Pierre sued the company in San Diego two weeks ago for unspecified damages.

Pierre says that during a Feb. 1 interview for a San Diego job, the store manager told him that the coffee flavoring syrups were placed high up and a one-armed man couldn't work there.

The discrimination suit claims that the former bartender was capable of doing the job but was never given a chance to fully explain his capabilities or possible accommodation as required under state law.

Starbucks says it employs many disabled persons and Pierre's disability wouldn't disqualify him. The company says his application was thoughtfully considered and disputes his version of the interview.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: starbucks; wa; washington
First a dwarf, then a one-legged woman, and now this. It seems the lawyers know who has the deep pockets.
1 posted on 02/22/2012 2:15:42 PM PST by matt1234
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To: matt1234

This guy read the Americans With Disabilities Act. You have to show clearly that the man could not do the job, after you make “reasonable accommodations”.


2 posted on 02/22/2012 2:18:35 PM PST by DBrow
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To: matt1234

I’ve heard it’s very hard for lawyers to find work nowadays.


3 posted on 02/22/2012 2:18:45 PM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius, (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: matt1234
At Papa John's Pizza at the PX, standing in line to order pizza behind a couple of smelly, sweaty GIs that had just finished a run, each with a missing lower leg.... I no longer consider loss of a lower limb a disability. A challange, sure, but not a disability.

I quit whining about ANYTHING after that experience.

/johnny

4 posted on 02/22/2012 2:22:30 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: matt1234

Maybe he could be kept busy hanging wallpaper?


5 posted on 02/22/2012 2:24:34 PM PST by myrabach
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To: matt1234

Couldn’t this guy get a job at a casino?


6 posted on 02/22/2012 2:24:41 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: matt1234

Next thing you know, they’ll want to pitch in MLB!

Oh...wait.

Nevermind.

(Go Angels!)


7 posted on 02/22/2012 2:24:59 PM PST by CainConservative (Santorum/Huck 2012 w/ Newt, Cain, Palin, Bach, Parker, Watts, Duncan, & Petraeus in the Cabinet)
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To: matt1234
This is the man at Starbucks that didn't hire the One Armed Man. He said he had personal reasons for doing so.


8 posted on 02/22/2012 2:25:07 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: matt1234

I could have sworn the one-armed man fell to his death while being pursued by Richard Kimble. Who knew he survived and later sought work at Starbucks?


9 posted on 02/22/2012 2:26:35 PM PST by rockvillem
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To: DBrow

And what constitutes “reasonable” a court will decide.


10 posted on 02/22/2012 2:27:06 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: matt1234

And wasn’t there a hitter in the 40’s with NO arms who batted around .260?


11 posted on 02/22/2012 2:28:21 PM PST by CainConservative (Santorum/Huck 2012 w/ Newt, Cain, Palin, Bach, Parker, Watts, Duncan, & Petraeus in the Cabinet)
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To: count-your-change

Common sense usually works. In this case, the man really thought he could serve up coffee since he previously held a job serving drinks. A huge clue to the starbucks interviewer.


12 posted on 02/22/2012 2:29:17 PM PST by DBrow
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To: Lazlo in PA

In an update to the story, Harrison Ford refused comment.


13 posted on 02/22/2012 2:29:48 PM PST by jimmango
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To: jimmango

I guess I’m old school. Whenever I think of the Fugitive, David Janssen is the first to come to mind.


14 posted on 02/22/2012 2:32:17 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: matt1234

Probably the guy who was doing the hiring should have been more careful with his questions. “How much experience do you have as a barista?” or something like that.

Or maybe he should have said the same thing when the police start questioning you. “Sorry, I can’t answer any more questions until my lawyer is present.”

Good grief.


15 posted on 02/22/2012 2:32:21 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Lazlo in PA
"Butterhook"

16 posted on 02/22/2012 2:34:34 PM PST by moehoward
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Couldn’t this guy get a job at a casino?

Where to put the coins. Decision, decisions...

17 posted on 02/22/2012 2:34:34 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Santorum says he isn't a visionary. Sorry Rick, without a vision the people perish.)
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To: matt1234
I'm not a big fan of so-called “anti-discrimination” laws; because, instead of addressing their original good intent, they usually end as “cash cows” for trial lawyers who use them to assert special rights for special groups. That said, if this is an accurate account, this incident appears to be exactly what these types of laws were intended to help prevent.

The man wants to work; has demonstrated he has the skill to do this type of job in the past and, yet, he was denied the opportunity to even demonstrate he could do the job.

For those who do not see the merit in this man's complaint: Would it be beneficial to the taxpayers that he stay home on welfare/disability???

18 posted on 02/22/2012 2:36:17 PM PST by Ozymandias Ghost
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To: matt1234

I once worked for a boss who had only one arm.

My co-workers had nicknamed me “The Fugitive” because
the one-armed man was ruining my life.


19 posted on 02/22/2012 2:41:17 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Cicero

Probably he shouldn’t have assumed that just because he needs two hands to do the job doesn’t mean it can’t be done one handed. I used to work the grill at McDs and if you asked me could the job be done one handed I’d say not a chance. Then I started going to the Desert Museum, they had a burger grill there and frequently the guy running it was the same one armed guy, I know why he got all those shifts too, he killed it. Probably the fastest most efficient grill guy I’ve ever seen.


20 posted on 02/22/2012 2:42:52 PM PST by discostu (I did it 35 minutes ago)
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To: matt1234

Just don’t say anything....then a few days later just tell him they decided to hire somebody else. If only companies would just follow this simple rule, and not divulge why they decided not to hire somebody.


21 posted on 02/22/2012 2:45:35 PM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: CainConservative
And wasn’t there a hitter in the 40’s with NO arms who batted around .260?

No......

22 posted on 02/22/2012 2:46:16 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (The only solution to this primary is a shoot out! Last person standing picks the candidate)
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To: Menehune56
I’ve heard it’s very hard for lawyers to find work nowadays.

The plaintiff probably has always dreamed of exercising the long arm of the law.

23 posted on 02/22/2012 2:46:39 PM PST by matt1234 (Bring back the HUAC.)
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To: rockvillem
Fred Johnson did in fact fall to his death after confessing to Kimble. Lt. Philip Gerard wasn't buying, until Kimble's brother-in-law, Lenny Taft, confessed that he had witnessed the murder of Kimble's wife years ago.
24 posted on 02/22/2012 2:46:51 PM PST by Publius
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To: matt1234

Maybe he could be Def Leppard’s next drummer.


25 posted on 02/22/2012 2:46:51 PM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

.270?


26 posted on 02/22/2012 2:57:34 PM PST by CainConservative (Santorum/Huck 2012 w/ Newt, Cain, Palin, Bach, Parker, Watts, Duncan, & Petraeus in the Cabinet)
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To: DBrow

I’m wondering if this isn’t a “set-up” lawsuit. If the guy was a former bartender, WHY would he want to work for Starbuck’s? He’d make a hell of a lot more money bartending.
And do disability laws REQUIRE you to hire disabled people on the spot whenever they show up? Sure if you want the guy working for you, you make “reasonable accomodations”. But what if you have a stack of applications? Aren’t you allowed to pick the “best” candidate?


27 posted on 02/22/2012 3:04:28 PM PST by boop (I hate hippies and dopeheads. Just hate them. ...Ernest Borgnine)
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To: matt1234

Scary true story - Years ago, a guy with narcolepsy showed up at a major railroad dispatch center to apply for a job as a dispatcher. After interviewing him and discovering that the man had narcolepsy, the railroad declined his application and selected another candidate.

The narcoleptic candidate sued under the ADA claiming that the railroad discriminated against him because of his “disability”. He won.

To accommodate him, the railroaf not only had to hire the man, they gad to hire another person whose sole job was to make sure that the narcoleptic stayed awake during his entire shift.

Talk about the Law of Unintended Consequences!!


28 posted on 02/22/2012 3:10:48 PM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - Another name for white collar criminals!!)
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To: rockvillem
My mistake. Lloyd Chandler witnessed the murder and used Taft's name to bail Johnson out in L.A., lest his cowardice be unmasked.
29 posted on 02/22/2012 3:11:22 PM PST by Publius
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To: matt1234

Perhaps Starbucks should hire the one-armed guy as the store manager (that job should be open about now).


30 posted on 02/22/2012 3:13:18 PM PST by Chewbarkah
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To: myrabach

He could ask his girlfriend, Eileen, for a leg up and tell his lazy ass brother, Art, to quit hanging around.

Maybe his dad, Bob, could float him a loan.

He might get sympathy from his dad, Mom, who keep an eye it for him.

“Wood Eye!”


31 posted on 02/22/2012 3:30:33 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: myrabach

He could ask his girlfriend, Eileen, for a leg up and tell his lazy ass brother, Art, to quit hanging around.

Maybe his dad, Bob, could float him a loan.

He might get sympathy from his dad, Mom, who keep an eye it for him.

“Wood Eye!”


32 posted on 02/22/2012 3:30:58 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: myrabach

“Maybe he could be kept busy hanging wallpaper?”

General Patton had the right answer for those types!!


33 posted on 02/22/2012 3:39:24 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I love how the FR spellchecker doesn't recognize the word "Obama")
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To: matt1234

Got to hand it to him, he’s got a lot of stump trying to elbow his way to the top!


34 posted on 02/22/2012 3:43:53 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: matt1234

Starbucks legal arm is arguing that the man wouldn’t be able to shoulder the responsibilities of the job.


35 posted on 02/22/2012 3:46:18 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: DBrow

This is Callyfornia. Common sense is not so common.


36 posted on 02/22/2012 4:16:53 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: matt1234

Yeah...in today’s market, a manager is going to TELL someone they don’t get the job due to a disability.

My daughter-in-law asked about applying for a job.

“You can apply”, they said, “but the stack of applications is close to 3 feet thick, and we still don’t have any openings.”

All the manager had to do is say, “Thank you for applying. We will let you know if you get the job. Good day!”

NO manager - not even a Starbucks one - tells a job applicant they aren’t getting hired due to age, disability, sexual preference, etc. They just smile, say thank you...and don’t hire.


37 posted on 02/22/2012 4:29:42 PM PST by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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To: Revolting cat!

Every citizen has the right to bear arms. The government should give him a hand.


38 posted on 02/22/2012 4:47:08 PM PST by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: Vendome
You forget his brother Bill...hiding in the mailbox. Not to mention Matt laying by the front door. He should demonstrate his skill by sipping chai tea after performing tai chi.
39 posted on 02/22/2012 5:12:03 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: matt1234

First kill the lawyers - William Shakespeare


40 posted on 02/22/2012 5:36:27 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: rockvillem

It’s the one-armed man’s son.


41 posted on 02/22/2012 5:38:16 PM PST by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: Myrddin

LLOLOLOLOLOL

I wuz on my so called smart phone and it wouldn’t type anything I wanted.


42 posted on 02/22/2012 6:05:34 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Vendome
My smart phone can be a pain too. Mostly, it is the dropped LTE network and dropped calls on my Droid Bionic that annoy me. Nothing like sending a Facebook post only to have to disappear due to a dropped network connection.
43 posted on 02/22/2012 7:34:01 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: matt1234

This may give birth to a new cliche: “Busier than a one armed barista.”


44 posted on 02/22/2012 7:53:56 PM PST by Nachoman (I HOPE we CHANGE presidents.)
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To: boop

“But what if you have a stack of applications? Aren’t you allowed to pick the “best” candidate?”

I have had a little experience with AWD. In general, if you have a disabled person that can do the job with reasonable accommodations, he’s put in the pool with the other applicants who can do the job, too. The Powers That Be look at the process like Affirmative Action, you better have a good reason for NOT hiring this person instead of an Able Bodied Person, if he can do the job.

The training I took was very strange. You must treat a merely short person differently than a dwarf or midget. A normal person who is 4 feet tall, you can say, sorry, I was looking for someone 5 feet tall because of the shelves here. But! If the 4 foot tall person is a dwarf, you MUST consider reasonable accommodations when hiring (lifts, ladders, the like) , but you don’t with the normal short person.

If the Starbucks manager thought that hiring a one-armed barrista would be bad for sales, or was unaesthetic, or was wierded out, AWD could slap him.

Anything the progressives push does not give you more freedom, and in the case of AWD, you can get in trouble hiring the “best person” from your point of view when you have “disabled” applicants.


45 posted on 02/22/2012 7:56:47 PM PST by DBrow
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