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Girl Who Borrowed Asthma Inhaler Expelled From School
CBS4 ^ | 2/20/12

Posted on 02/22/2012 7:39:16 PM PST by Arthurio

MONUMENT, Colo. (CBS4) – A girl who borrowed a friend’s asthma inhaler at school has now been expelled.

The incident happened in January at Lewis-Palmer Middle School in Monument. Both the girls and their families are unhappy with the punishment.

The school’s punishment strikes one of the families as uneven justice. The school said the girls broke the district’s drug policy. Their families call the incident an accident and the school’s discipline heavy-handed.

For 10 days Breana Crites and Alyssa McKinney sat at home while suspended from school. The two were in gym class. Crites complained of trouble breathing, so McKinney lent out her asthma inhaler.

“I know what it feels like not to being able to breathe and I know how hard it is and I just took that into consideration,” McKinney said.

(Excerpt) Read more at denver.cbslocal.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: discipline; substanceabuse; zerotolerance

1 posted on 02/22/2012 7:39:21 PM PST by Arthurio
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To: Arthurio
Is it just me? Or is government involved in way too bloody much that is none of their damn business as servants?

/johnny

2 posted on 02/22/2012 7:41:49 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Arthurio

Under Communism, no good deed goes unpunished.


3 posted on 02/22/2012 7:43:02 PM PST by aimhigh
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To: JRandomFreeper

No, it’s certainly not just you.

I’m sure I would have done the same thing in that situation, BTW.


4 posted on 02/22/2012 7:45:11 PM PST by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: Arthurio

Sharing more innocuous things than that, like a Tylenol, would meet the same treatment. And in the case of an inhaler it might turn out dangerous even if well intended... still, if neither one had been involved with this sort of thing before, why a reprimand from the principal would not do is beyond me.


5 posted on 02/22/2012 7:46:04 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: Arthurio

Asthma attacks can kill, so they basically punished one kid for providing potentially life saving aid to another, and they punished the other kid for wanting to breath.

In this case I’m for more government action: making it a felony for any idiotic school administrator who enforces such assinine rules. Yes, a felony.


6 posted on 02/22/2012 7:47:14 PM PST by piytar (Rebellion is here! Free Republic is on the front line! NEVER SURRENDER!)
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To: Arthurio

Public school is child abuse.


7 posted on 02/22/2012 7:47:14 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it. (plagiarized))
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To: Arthurio
"You work so hard your whole life to instill good morals into your children only for the school to children only for the school to break them,” Tim McKinney said. break them,” Tim McKinney said.

Bingo. Control. Social engineering.

8 posted on 02/22/2012 7:48:00 PM PST by Not The Other One
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To: Arthurio
"You work so hard your whole life to instill good morals into your children only for the school to children only for the school to break them,” Tim McKinney said. break them,” Tim McKinney said.

Bingo. Control. Social engineering.

9 posted on 02/22/2012 7:48:11 PM PST by Not The Other One
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To: Not The Other One

Yup. It’s all about power. Small minded people with power. Scum.


10 posted on 02/22/2012 7:49:44 PM PST by piytar (Rebellion is here! Free Republic is on the front line! NEVER SURRENDER!)
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To: Arthurio

There’s a difference of intent and effect between abuse-able prescription meds (like Adderall or Oxycodone) and emergency care medication which the school administration seems incapable of grasping.


11 posted on 02/22/2012 7:50:06 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Arthurio

A couple of points.

1. The girl can start home-schooling immediately.
2. Couldn’t the girl, suffering the attack, sue the school for not having medical aid?


12 posted on 02/22/2012 7:50:27 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Beyond you? Really? Let me help.

The “rules” are better if they don’t make sense. The point is to condition kids to follow them no matter how stupid they are. It’s the following them part that’s important, not the making sense part.

Get it now?


13 posted on 02/22/2012 7:50:39 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Arthurio
“I know what it feels like not to being able to breathe and I know how hard it is and I just took that into consideration,” McKinney said.

I know exactly the feeling; I've been brought to the hospital a couple of times when I was a kid and unable to breathe. I never leave without my inhaler in my pocket. It could very well save my life, or the life of someone else.

14 posted on 02/22/2012 7:53:32 PM PST by wastedyears (Signature for sale.)
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To: Arthurio

When I was in school back in the 50s and 60s a teacher would have simply suggested that it was not a good idea to share medications. They probably would have asked if they actually took the same type and if they did, that would have been the end of it except they probably would have been sent to the school nurse to make sure they were OK.

If they were of different strengths, the teacher would probably sent a note home saying what happened and asking if it would be harmful and if there was any chance that it would be for them to not share one again.


15 posted on 02/22/2012 7:54:42 PM PST by yarddog
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To: Arthurio

In the “good ole days”, when my exercised induced asthma inhaler was still available, I lent it to my Scuba instructor’s son, as our group traveled for our open water cert.


16 posted on 02/22/2012 7:58:05 PM PST by G Larry (We are NOT obliged to carry the snake in our pocket and then dismiss the bites as natural behavior.)
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To: Arthurio
Tim McKinney says his daughter was allowed back because he pressed school officials to do so. He says he’s proud and expects his daughter would do the same thing again.

No way would I return my kid to such an idiotic place.

17 posted on 02/22/2012 7:58:05 PM PST by beaversmom
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To: Arthurio

This lack of common sense among school officials is truly astounding. Click on the keyword “zero tolerance” and you can read dozens, and maybe hundreds of similar stories from schools in every part of the country—blue states, red states, cities, suburbs and rural communities.

Just about everyone in authority who works at a school has to have a college degree, and many have advanced degrees. How can so many of these people be such morons?


18 posted on 02/22/2012 7:58:28 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: Jonty30
Couldn’t the girl, suffering the attack, sue the school for not having medical aid?

I sincerely hope they sue, sue, sue!

19 posted on 02/22/2012 8:01:04 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: Arthurio

“zero tolerance” is for those incapable of evaluating situations and circumstances and applying “common sense”.


20 posted on 02/22/2012 8:02:16 PM PST by G Larry (We are NOT obliged to carry the snake in our pocket and then dismiss the bites as natural behavior.)
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To: Navy Patriot
Public school is child abuse.

Mind abuse is what I'd call it.

Libs in America are brainwashing our kids in public schools ...

And so it also goes in the continued education young adults receive via Main Stream Media and National Public Radio.

Recommended reading: "Anthem" by Ayn Rand

21 posted on 02/22/2012 8:03:17 PM PST by OldNavyVet
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To: Arthurio

She’s better off being out of that indoctrination center.


22 posted on 02/22/2012 8:04:41 PM PST by Clock King (Ellisworth Toohey was right: My head's gonna explode.)
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To: G Larry

Might matter what was in it (ephedrine or something else). The school nurse ought to have an ephedrine one on hand. Some of the more modern medications can bring on paradoxical reactions. And anyhow, a shared inhaler unless not touched to the face, nose, or mouth by either user would be a possible way to share bacteria, fungi, and viruses too. Not necessarily a good idea to share unless a true emergency existed.

Trying to separate this from the issue of what looks like a gross overreaction by skewladminz.


23 posted on 02/22/2012 8:05:09 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: Lurker
The point is to condition kids to follow them no matter how stupid they are.

Exactly.

Proper parents will put their kids wise to this, train them to defeat this type of criminally evil abuse of authority, and home school from the start.

24 posted on 02/22/2012 8:05:51 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it. (plagiarized))
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To: Arthurio
I'm asthmatic. I carried my inhaler when I was in school. Teachers KNEW I carried it and had no problem with that. That was in the 80's and early 90's.

This policy is bullsh*t.

25 posted on 02/22/2012 8:06:52 PM PST by Darren McCarty (Stop Romney - Rick Santorum in the Michigan primary)
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To: yarddog
I was in school through the fifties and sixties and no teacher I had would ever have even considered trying to practice medicine without a license. If you were having trouble breathing she would have sent you to the school nurse.

Kids had pills all the time for one thing or another. Nobody monitored or cared, they trusted parents to instruct their kids if necessary. We have fallen a very great distance in less than one lifetime.

26 posted on 02/22/2012 8:14:48 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: HiTech RedNeck
why a reprimand from the principal would not do is beyond me.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I am guessing the girls are white and the socialist/government school needs to even out the black-white discipline stats.

( Now I will go read the article.)

27 posted on 02/22/2012 8:15:58 PM PST by wintertime (Reforming a government K-12 school is like reforming an abortion center.)
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To: OldNavyVet

I regularly spend time in the sack with Ayn.


28 posted on 02/22/2012 8:23:06 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it. (plagiarized))
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To: Lurker

You NAILED it! TWP! (Thread Winning Post!)


29 posted on 02/22/2012 8:25:56 PM PST by piytar (Rebellion is here! Free Republic is on the front line! NEVER SURRENDER!)
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To: Arthurio; Morgana

These are the same people who hand kids condoms and tell them its okay to have sex like rabbits, but svaing their life with an asthma inhaler is a no-no.


30 posted on 02/22/2012 8:34:31 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: aimhigh
but if those girls were passing condomns or morning after pills they'd be the head cheerleaders and the valavictorians.

the answer is truely home schooling or private, parochial school....the sacrifice has to be made...

31 posted on 02/22/2012 8:35:17 PM PST by cherry
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To: Arthurio

Time for lawsuits all around. These schools are being run by a bunch of idiots and they should be made to pay for their stupidity.

I have used inhalers because of breathing problems and they can/are life-savers. Time is of the essence in many cases so I fully understand why the girl shared her inhaler.

(I went into cardiac arrest a couple years ago. My son had just gotten me to the hospital when I died in front of the doctor, who had a crash-cart right there. However, he had to put a breathing tube down my throat in order to get oxygen flowing to the brain, a main priority before using the defibrillator paddles. When I say time is of the essence, I mean it. I’m living proof that that. A couple more minutes and I wouldn’t be writing this post today, 2-1/2 years later).


32 posted on 02/22/2012 8:38:39 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Arthurio

Dismantle the public skoolz.

Eliminate the zero tolerance idiots. Too stupid to re-educate.


33 posted on 02/22/2012 8:51:49 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Arthurio

Zero tolerance = Zero intelligence = Zero common sense


34 posted on 02/22/2012 8:58:11 PM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Arthurio

I sure hope her parents are happy with the plasmas, nice cars, big house, and everything else associated with sending their girl to get a ‘free’ education.

Too bad the girl’s chances for college just went down the drain, because of her parents’ decision.


35 posted on 02/22/2012 9:00:48 PM PST by BobL (I don't care about his past - Santorum will BRING THE FIGHT to Obama)
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To: Fiji Hill

Education does not equate to intelligence/common sense.


36 posted on 02/22/2012 9:02:46 PM PST by wastedyears (Signature for sale.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
a shared inhaler unless not touched to the face, nose, or mouth by either user would be a possible way to share bacteria, fungi, and viruses too.

Get real, already.

A simple HANDSHAKE is as likely to spread or share the pathogens you cite, nevermind a KISS!

You sound as paranoid about simple common minor illness being spread by a rare sharing event as the drug warriors are about the EEEEEEEEVIL WEEEEEEED!

Come to think about it, where ARE the drug warriors? This is another outgrowth of their agenda, is it not?

I mean: children, drugs, illicit sharing of a controlled substance...

Does this not REEK of "legitimate" interference by BIG BRO?

37 posted on 02/23/2012 12:18:50 AM PST by Don W (You can forget what you do for a living when your knees are in the breeze.)
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To: GeronL

More than condoms Geron! One school system got a girl an abortion! Yea I agree this is bull sh!t!!


38 posted on 02/23/2012 2:06:41 AM PST by Morgana (I only come here to see what happens next. It normally does.)
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To: Arthurio
This is typical Public School insanity.

Better the little girl died of asphyxiation, to them?

Maybe they could log that one as a retroactive abortion and get Federal money for it.

39 posted on 02/23/2012 2:14:27 AM PST by Lazamataz (If unemployment helps the economy, like the W.H. says, then CONTRACTING CANCER MAKES YOU HEALTHIER!)
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To: Lurker
Beyond you? Really? Let me help. The “rules” are better if they don’t make sense. The point is to condition kids to follow them no matter how stupid they are. It’s the following them part that’s important, not the making sense part. Get it now?

Lurker, I can always count on you for a brilliant observation.

Simply brilliant.

40 posted on 02/23/2012 2:17:04 AM PST by Lazamataz (If unemployment helps the economy, like the W.H. says, then CONTRACTING CANCER MAKES YOU HEALTHIER!)
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To: Arthurio
There's more to this story. I think expulsion is too much, but I believe the school is entirely correct to punish the kids, and definitely right that kids should NOT be sharing prescription medication.

Are those attacking the school really saying that you would be fine if your kid went to school, and some other kid gave them a prescription medication to "help" them with some perceived medical problem, without your knowledge or consent, and without a medical indication?

I think people here have assumed that the other girl had asthma. If so, you should have asked yourselves, why didn't she just use her own inhaler? Turns out, she didn't.

From an earlier story: Why sharing asthma inhalers has serious consequences:

As it turned out, Crites doesn’t have asthma and wasn’t suffering an asthmatic attack. Instead of helping, the inhaler triggered an allergic reaction, which sent her to the school nurse — and soon after, the principal.

So now you know the rest of the story. Some girl with asthma saw some other girl having trouble breathing. The CORRECT thing to do would be to call the teacher's attention to the problem, so the nurse can be called.

I think the punishment is too severe, but punishment was needed.

I also don't understand why the girl who was GIVEN the inhaler got expelled, while the girl who GAVE her the inhaler wasn't. (Neither should have been). If anything, the girl who gave the drugs should have been more severely punished. The other girl was having trouble breathing, and someone said "here, use this, it will help". It's perfectly natural to in that moment, take the help.

But the girl with the inhaler should have been told the rules when she was given permission to carry her prescriptions in school. The first rule -- don't give your drugs to anybody else. That is a good rule, and the girl should learn that lesson well -- because she could kill her friend giving her prescriptions that her friend is allergic to, and got lucky that the reaction wasn't life-threatening and they were at school where a nurse was available.

41 posted on 02/23/2012 5:21:11 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Darren McCarty

The girl was carrying her inhaler as well. Schools still allow kids to carry inhalers. What they don’t allow is for those kids to give their prescription inhalers to other kids to use.

If the other girl had actually been asthmatic, she too would have had an inhaler.

My son had an inhaler for a brief time while they were trying to diagnose a breathing problem. In his case, they kept the inhaler in the office, because it was not considered a life-threatening issue. It was a bit of a pain, but we got the doctor to write two prescriptions, so he could store one at the school office, and keep one at home.


42 posted on 02/23/2012 5:24:49 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Darren McCarty
BTW, according to the link I posted before:
According to the American Lung Association, all 50 states have laws allowing students with asthma to carry and use quick-relief asthma inhalers at school. Though the specific rules and requirements can vary by state and even school district, many prohibit sharing.

43 posted on 02/23/2012 5:26:15 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Don W

Oh yeah, gotta watch out for these lezzes kissing


44 posted on 02/23/2012 5:47:37 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Aww quit making sense. You’re just a nanny state jackboot. /s

The student was trying to be helpful, but did something unwise. A talking to with the school nurse and principal ought to have sufficed.


45 posted on 02/23/2012 5:52:08 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I generally fight against the stupid intolerance policies of the schools. With two kids going through the system, I’ve had more than my share of run-ins with rediculous policies.


46 posted on 02/23/2012 6:41:40 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: HiTech RedNeck

It’s obvious you’ve not had an affectionate daughter that had very close friends. Here’s a clue: some girls are known to kiss and hug each other in a NON-sexual manner, especially in the lower grades. Lezzies indeed! Think of how you were kissed by your parental units. Does that make them molesters?

I’ve never heard of an asthma inhaler causing allergic reactions, but then again, when I went to school asthma was extremely rare. I didn’t even meet anyone with asthma until I was in the 11th grade!

We cleaned the air up, took the lead out of gasoline, and asthma exploded. Now it seems like 1/3 of the kids out there have asthma. Talk about unintended consequences...


47 posted on 02/23/2012 9:28:09 AM PST by Don W (You can forget what you do for a living when your knees are in the breeze.)
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To: Arthurio
Zero tolerance = zero ethical analysis. Right up the humanists’ dead end alley.
48 posted on 02/23/2012 9:30:16 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Fiji Hill
Just about everyone in authority who works at a school has to have a college degree, and many have advanced degrees. How can so many of these people be such morons?

Because, at the end of the day, the type of 'college degrees' that are pursued by these folks who end up in these positions equates less to 'educated' and more to 'totally indoctrinated'...

the infowarrior

49 posted on 02/23/2012 9:48:05 AM PST by infowarrior
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To: Don W

Perhaps an increase in sedentary living, staying indoors where the house dust is, had something to do with it. I doubt that lead fumes were staving off asthma.


50 posted on 02/23/2012 3:25:22 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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