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'Too many Bulgarians in Bulgaria'
Aftenposten via Newsinenglish.no ^ | 22 February 2012 | Nina Berglund

Posted on 02/23/2012 2:27:50 AM PST by bjorn14

A Norwegian family who traveled on a package tour to Bulgaria filed a formal complaint and demanded a refund, because most of the other guests at the hotel where they were staying were Bulgarians.

The Hotel Sveti Toma in Bulgaria, shown here on one of many booking sites. The Norwegian family traveled to Bulgaria, but wanted to vacation with other Norwegians, not Bulgarians. PHOTO: directbooking.ro The family conceded in its complaint that the Hotel Sveti Toma itself and its vacation facilities were fine, reported newspaper Aftenposten on Wednesday. They had wanted, however, to spend their holiday with other Scandinavians, and contended that tour operator Apollo should have informed them that most of the guests at the Bulgarian hotel were either Bulgarian or from other eastern European countries.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: bulgaria; norway
This is rich.
1 posted on 02/23/2012 2:27:56 AM PST by bjorn14
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To: bjorn14

It is rich. It’s like going to Tokyo, and then realizing you’re surrounded by.......wait for it;

Japanese!


2 posted on 02/23/2012 2:30:01 AM PST by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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Same problem I have when traveling in Mexico. The place is crawling with Mexicans.


3 posted on 02/23/2012 2:32:44 AM PST by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average In the US the number is 54%)
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To: bjorn14

Sucks to be them, I guess. :)


4 posted on 02/23/2012 2:38:30 AM PST by Lazamataz (If unemployment helps the economy, like the W.H. says, then CONTRACTING CANCER MAKES YOU HEALTHIER!)
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To: bjorn14

I spent a bit of time in Sofia (2006), and yes, everyone I knew or met was BULGARIAN...Imagine that.
Even the famous Orthodox monastery, far out in the countryside, was crawling with BULGARIANS, I tell ya.
Oh the humanity !


5 posted on 02/23/2012 2:38:30 AM PST by AlexW
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To: AlexW
That's nuthin !

I walked into my house yesterday and ... MY FAMILY was there !!!

Can you believe THAT ?!!??

6 posted on 02/23/2012 2:50:09 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: bjorn14

I’m surprised there are any Bulgarians left in Bulgaria. Seems like all of them made their way in a north-westerly direction as soon as they joined the EU.

Perhaps Norwegian-Bulgarians on a home vacation?


7 posted on 02/23/2012 2:55:39 AM PST by Moltke (Always retaliate first.)
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To: knarf

“That’s nuthin !
I walked into my house yesterday and ... MY FAMILY was there !!!
Can you believe THAT ?!!??
_________________________________________

That is shocking, I tell you...just shocking !!!!!!

Maybe that is why I left the USSA....too much family around, haha../s


8 posted on 02/23/2012 2:57:11 AM PST by AlexW
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To: bjorn14

I’m really not sure if there are many places for the Norwegians to go which are populated mainly by Scandinavians. If they go to their capital, Oslo, they certainly will find plenty of Arabs, but not too many Scandinavians.


9 posted on 02/23/2012 4:05:53 AM PST by BobL (I don't care about his past - Santorum will BRING THE FIGHT to Obama)
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To: bjorn14
A Møøse once bit my sister ...

No realli! She was Karving her initials on the møøse with the sharpened end of an interspace tøøthbrush given her by Svenge - her brother-in-law - an Oslo dentist and star of many Norwegian møvies: "The Høt Hands of an Oslo Dentist", "Fillings of Passion", "The Huge Mølars of Horst Nordfink".

We apologise for the fault in the subtitles. Those responsible have been sacked.

Mynd you, møøse bites Kan be pretty nasti...

10 posted on 02/23/2012 4:32:28 AM PST by MuttTheHoople (Democrats- Forgetting 9/11 since 9/12/01)
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To: BobL

To: bjorn14

I’m really not sure if there are many places for the Norwegians to go which are populated mainly by Scandinavians. If they go to their capital, Oslo, they certainly will find plenty of Arabs, but not too many Scandinavians

They could go to Minnesota. It’s crawling with “Scandahoovians.”


11 posted on 02/23/2012 4:45:22 AM PST by ruesrose (It's possible to be clueless without being blonde.)
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To: ruesrose
They could go to Minnesota. It’s crawling with “Scandahoovians.”

Or Kingsburg, Calif., whose Swedish population dominates the culture.

12 posted on 02/23/2012 5:05:08 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: BobL
"populated by...Scandinavians"

There is a large population of people of Norwegian descent around where I live in western Wisconsin. The Norwegians can spend their winter vacations here in sunny, warm, tropical Wisconsin and be surrounded by a lot of people that look like them. A number of small towns populated by Norskies, like Westby, Wisconsin, even have Norwegian flags flying outside gift shops. The Norwegian nationals would feel right at home...uff da!

13 posted on 02/23/2012 5:22:27 AM PST by driftless2
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To: Moltke

Yea,I thought they were all in Amsterdam and Rome lifting
tourist wallets!


14 posted on 02/23/2012 5:30:02 AM PST by Dr. Ursus
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To: bjorn14

Bulgarians, in Bulgaria? It must be a conspiracy.


15 posted on 02/23/2012 5:35:18 AM PST by Not The Other One
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To: Not The Other One

I volunteer at a hospital once a week. Last Friday, a new escort was introduced to us veterans. It was young Bulgarian man who worked his way over here and while he’s waiting for some scholarship funds to attend college, he’s volunteering. His English is almost flawless. Four years ago, I was in ICU and the ICU nurse was a Bulgarian dude. Both guys were floored that I knew of some Bulgarian football teams. Soccer: the international language.


16 posted on 02/23/2012 5:44:03 AM PST by Ax
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To: bjorn14
What is Bulgaria's biggest export? Bulgarians. lol
17 posted on 02/23/2012 5:46:46 AM PST by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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To: bjorn14

Maybe they should have just stayed home with their Norwegian friends


18 posted on 02/23/2012 5:48:08 AM PST by Nifster
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To: BobL

upper Minnesota


19 posted on 02/23/2012 5:49:06 AM PST by Nifster
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To: ruesrose

hey friends don’t let friends eat lutefisk


20 posted on 02/23/2012 5:49:47 AM PST by Nifster
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

I was there. I really thought I was turning Japanese.


21 posted on 02/23/2012 5:50:31 AM PST by Larry Lucido (My doctor told me to curtail my Walpoling activities.)
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To: bjorn14
In the immortal words of Frank Burns - "You can't swing a dead cat around here without hitting a Korean." lol
22 posted on 02/23/2012 5:50:35 AM PST by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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To: Lazamataz
Sveti Toma

I had that once. Doctor told me to just air it out.

Wouldn't name a hotel after it, though.

23 posted on 02/23/2012 5:53:31 AM PST by Larry Lucido (My doctor told me to curtail my Walpoling activities.)
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To: Larry Lucido

Hmmm, apparently Sveti Toma refers to a saint. How do I take back my quip?


24 posted on 02/23/2012 5:56:49 AM PST by Larry Lucido (My doctor told me to curtail my Walpoling activities.)
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To: driftless2

When my Norwegian FIL visited Westby, he was disappointed because they spoke an archaic version of his language. He had been hoping to find folks with whom he could converse in Norwegian. We heard the same complaint from the Norwegian ski-jumpers at the Snowflake Festival.

OTOH, the food can be authentic.


25 posted on 02/23/2012 5:57:24 AM PST by reformedliberal
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To: bjorn14

What can be said of the mental competence of people who go to Bulgaria to find Norwegians?


26 posted on 02/23/2012 6:04:50 AM PST by RoadTest (There is one god, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.)
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To: BobL

Just cancelled my trip to France because there are no more Mademoiselles there.

Apparently ‘oiselle’ means ‘virgin’ or ‘simpleton’

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2104826/Au-revoir-Mademoiselle-France-bans-word-Miss-official-documents-suggests-woman-available.html

It’s worth the click.

and “Allo Allo” is the best sitcom ever.


27 posted on 02/23/2012 6:07:04 AM PST by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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To: reformedliberal

[they spoke an archaic version of his language]

It’s called Danish...most who emigrated were still under Danish rule at the time and spoke it.


28 posted on 02/23/2012 6:10:41 AM PST by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: bjorn14

Norway: The only European country to have diplomatic relations with Hamas.


29 posted on 02/23/2012 6:11:11 AM PST by Dagnabitt ("None of the above" ain't running.)
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To: bjorn14

I think you mean Sweden? The Danes were replaced by the Swedes around 1814. The settlers here date from the 1880s.

No, they actually speak an 18th-19th century dialect of Norwegian. Most of the Westby Norwegians came from Sognafjord. Some emigrated from Trondheim. From what the modern Norwegian speakers say, it is analogous to listening to Chaucerian English while being a 21st century Brit. I gather that even back then, there was already a linguistic divergence between the rural farmers/fishermen/peddlers and the city folk from Oslo.


30 posted on 02/23/2012 7:33:51 AM PST by reformedliberal
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To: reformedliberal

Denmark ruled Norway from 1319-1814. So a lot of Danish influence remained. The height of Norwegian immigration occured between 1850 and 1880. Danish was still considered the academic language at the time even though the Norwegians flipped the vowels.

Even today the Sognefjord dialect sounds archaic. I was there last summer (my wife was born in Sjolden) and they were difficult to understand even for my wife.

Back then it was even worse as dialects varied from valley to valley as people didn’t travel around much. Still today there are very strong dialects. By watching the news you can tell where people are from almost immediately.

Fortunately, my wife has lived in west Oslo since she was a teenager so she speaks the closest thing to spoken bokmål.


31 posted on 02/23/2012 8:12:41 AM PST by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: bjorn14

Even today, many of the old line Norwegian families send their kids back to Norway for several summers in their teen years to visit relatives and keep in touch with their heritage. There are Norwegian classes at the tech school. I never thought about it, but I suppose they teach the “book language”. The cousins also visit here, in exchange. So, perhaps in a generation the locals will be speaking a more modern Norwegian. Although, again, I find it fascinating that the Sognefjord dialect is still so separate. Our Norwegian locals still put on national costumes for Syttende Mai and it is a local holiday.

Since you are Norwegian, I must ask: have you seen the Netflix series “Lilyhammer”? If so, I wonder what a Norwegian thinks of the portrayal of their country and if it is accurate, in your opinion?


32 posted on 02/23/2012 10:26:56 AM PST by reformedliberal
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To: reformedliberal

‘Lilyhammer’ is the most watched drama series in the history of Norwegian TV. We watch it every Wed. night. For the most part it’s pretty accurate...some of the Norwegian characters are a little cartoonish.

It’s just not the Sognefjord dialect its a lot of dialects in the west, the north and even ‘up in some valley’. My sister-in-law (from Tromsø) and her son (raised in Oslo area) still argue over how to pronounce words.

A little trivia, no one actually speaks bokmål the closest someone gets is the west Oslo dialect, where I live.

Ha det!


33 posted on 02/23/2012 2:49:05 PM PST by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: reformedliberal
"the food"

lutefisk and lefse hmmmmm yum yum. Well....maybe the lefse with butter on it.

34 posted on 02/24/2012 6:00:21 AM PST by driftless2
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To: driftless2

Well, you know how it is with anyone’s *soul food*. I am Jewish and my husband will not eat gefilte fish or chopped chicken liver. Too bad. More for me.

You know the following, but I include it for the non-locals:

Not any publicly served lutefisk. Some churches do hold lutefisk dinners, but they always offer meatballs, too.

Lefse is good if it is homemade and fresh with butter and sugar.

Meatballs with ginger and nutmeg. Very good.

Rommegrot. Sort of a Norsk sweet cream gravy. Not to my taste, but some folks like it. Better with salt and no sugar or cinnamon, IMO.

Bakery. Lots of wonderful, sugary, buttery cookies and fried cakes. Excellent.

My non-Norwegian MIL used to prepare my FIL’s Sytennde Mai lutefisk dinner on a separate stove in the basement, with all doors to the upstairs closed. We would be served beef roast, while he would have his lutefisk, complete w/a little paper Norwegian flag stuck in it. It just became a family tradition and sort of a joke. We all tasted it. Dunked in enough butter, it tastes better than it smells.

Grandma’s sandbaakles (almond cookies; better if made w/butter)could be used to pack bearings. They literally dripped lard. The kids used to have sandbaakle fights until they were stopped because the grease marks were difficult to remove.


35 posted on 02/24/2012 6:22:45 AM PST by reformedliberal
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To: reformedliberal
My step-daughter did a genealogy research on my side of the family, and to my eternal mortification (well, amazement), she found out I was about one percent Norwegian. Which might explain why I tolerate lutefisk, but will not seek it out. A younger sister of mine has a hubby who is almost 100% Norskie, and his mother would always serve Norwegian "delicacies" at Christmas dinners. A bowl full of lutefisk looks like very pale, pink jello. Tastes like fishy jello as well. Not inedible, but not something I looked forward to.

Now you mentioned your Jewish lineage, and I finally ate at a Jewish deli near Milwaukee about twenty years ago. Overall the food was excellent, and I'd have to say Jewish rye bread is the most delicious bread I've ever eaten. So I'll take Jewish food over Norskie food on the basis on the one meal in a kosher deli. I don't know, can chopped liver be worse than lutefisk? (smirk)

36 posted on 02/24/2012 6:43:50 AM PST by driftless2
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To: driftless2

If you like pate, you will be able to eat chopped chicken liver. It is milder than the pork version and not as smooth.

Basically, for my family, Jewish food is Northern European food w/chicken fat or butter instead of lard or bacon grease.

I’d give anything for a real Jewish deli in LaX.


37 posted on 02/24/2012 7:26:21 AM PST by reformedliberal
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