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Obama: Use 'algae' as substitute for oil
washingtonexaminer.com ^ | Feb. 23, 2012 | Joel Gehrke

Posted on 02/23/2012 12:39:19 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY

President Obama admitted today that he does not have a "silver bullet" solution for skyrocketing gas prices, but he proposed alternative energy sources such as "a plant-like substance, algae" as a way of cutting dependence on oil by 17 percent.

"We’re making new investments in the development of gasoline, diesel, and jet fuel that’s actually made from a plant-like substance, algae -- you've got a bunch of algae out here," Obama said at the University of Miami today. "If we can figure out how to make energy out of that, we'll be doing alright. Believe it or not, we could replace up to 17 percent of the oil we import for transportation with this fuel that we can grow right here in America."

The Department of Energy (DOE) currently spends about $85 million on 30 research projects "to develop algal biofuels," according to the White House, which announced that Obama is committing another $14 million to the idea.

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1 posted on 02/23/2012 12:39:23 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY
President Obama admitted today that he does not have a "silver bullet" solution for skyrocketing gas prices

I do.

Allow more drilling.

Rescind your refusal to permit the Keystone pipeline.

You're welcome, President Obama. No no no, don't try to hire me, I'm happy where I work.

2 posted on 02/23/2012 12:41:33 PM PST by Lazamataz (If unemployment helps the economy, like the W.H. says, then CONTRACTING CANCER MAKES YOU HEALTHIER!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Words simply can’t describe whatever this thing is we have in the White House right now.


3 posted on 02/23/2012 12:42:00 PM PST by sydbas
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To: Free ThinkerNY

boob


4 posted on 02/23/2012 12:42:43 PM PST by albie
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To: Free ThinkerNY

High gas prices IS his energy policy.

Along with high electric and natural gas prices.

His whole agenda is based on artificially raising the prices of energy via government regulation in order to make his “green” energy boondoggles cost competitive.

How long are people going to put up with this idiocy?

A 40% annual inflation year after year in the cost of electricity/natural/gas/automotive fuel isn’t enough to wake the clueless sheep like American voters to the economic idiocy of the “green” movement and their mindless puppets the US Democrat Party


5 posted on 02/23/2012 12:43:08 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: sydbas

How about the morons standing there, taking down every word, like the animals in the jury in the Red Queen’s court? He’s the smartest one in that room. Frightening, isn’t it?


6 posted on 02/23/2012 12:43:48 PM PST by BelegStrongbow (St. Joseph, patron of fathers, pray for us!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Algae is a ‘plant-like’ substance as he is a ‘human-like’ substance............


7 posted on 02/23/2012 12:43:48 PM PST by Red Badger (If you are unemployed long enough, you are no longer unemployed.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Believe it or not,...

Not.

8 posted on 02/23/2012 12:44:26 PM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Renewable
Carbon Neutral
Whale Oil


9 posted on 02/23/2012 12:44:31 PM PST by null and void (Day 1129 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I was expecting him to propose astral projection as a way to get around the high price of gas.


10 posted on 02/23/2012 12:45:42 PM PST by rbg81 (scillian's)
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To: sydbas

This fool is starting to sound like a sci-fi B movie from the fifties.

Democrats are algae. Let’s use them.


11 posted on 02/23/2012 12:45:50 PM PST by donhunt (Certified and proud "Son of a Bitch".)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

There is something mentally wrong with this idiot. I really can’t believe what I just read. Algae!?!?


12 posted on 02/23/2012 12:45:50 PM PST by cork
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I’ll give him a pass on this one. A Chicago politician could easily believe there is a limitless supply of pond scum.


13 posted on 02/23/2012 12:45:50 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: JoanneSD
IN 2008 when Barack Hussein Obama was campaigning he said the silver bullet to lowering gas prices was to keep your tires inflated ...and we would save enough gas to keep America in fuel
14 posted on 02/23/2012 12:46:20 PM PST by JoanneSD (TEA PARTY VERSES TEE TIME)
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To: MNJohnnie

Use [anything that isn’t really a viable energy source] instead of oil.

Thanks for the explanation of your energy policy, bammers.


15 posted on 02/23/2012 12:46:38 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Well to be fair, Bush mentioned cultivating saw grass in a SOTU speech. Saw grass. Run the economy with saw grass.


16 posted on 02/23/2012 12:46:48 PM PST by SkyDancer ("No Matter How The People Vote There Will Always Be A Federal Judge To Over Turn It")
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Algae. Let me guess, we’ll be seeing a Chevy Slime soon that runs on algae. Or is it the Chevy Scum?


17 posted on 02/23/2012 12:48:03 PM PST by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: sydbas

Obama: Use 'algae' as substitute for oil

Why not? He has used it as a substitute for a brain for the past 3 years. So why not?
18 posted on 02/23/2012 12:48:43 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Do all He commands. Receive all He promises.)
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To: Red Badger

“Algae is a ‘plant-like’ substance as he is a ‘human-like’ substance............”

I do see the resemblance to pond scum though...


19 posted on 02/23/2012 12:49:01 PM PST by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
"A Chicago politician could easily believe there is a limitless supply of pond scum.

Ba da bing! I laughed out loud!

20 posted on 02/23/2012 12:49:57 PM PST by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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To: SkyDancer
Bush mentioned cultivating saw grass in a SOTU speech

To be fair that is complete BS without a hint of a shred of a notion of any connection with fact. But I know, you Leftist trolls never bother letting little things like intellectual honesty and factual accuracy get in the way of your mindless adoration of all things Democrat.

21 posted on 02/23/2012 12:50:15 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
“The Department of Energy (DOE) currently spends about $85 million on 30 research projects “to develop algal [sic] biofuels,” ....”

At least, that's a lot better than multi-billion dollar subsidies for industrial-scale implementation of unproven or economically nonviable technologies (e.g. solar, wind, corn ethanol).

22 posted on 02/23/2012 12:50:15 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Drill Here,
Drill NOW

23 posted on 02/23/2012 12:51:56 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Limbaugh: Tim Tebow miracle: "He had atheists praying to God that he would lose.")
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I remember reading about a company doing this some years ago - the problem is scaling it up to produce the milluions of barrels we need per day would take enourmous investment in facilities and the ultimate cost would be rediculous.


24 posted on 02/23/2012 12:52:37 PM PST by oncebitten (Obama: "A Big Ole’ Hunk of Nothing on Two Thick Slices of Nada.”)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
I remember reading about a company doing this some years ago - the problem is scaling it up to produce the millions of barrels we need per day would take enormous investment in facilities and the ultimate cost would be ridiculous.
25 posted on 02/23/2012 12:53:20 PM PST by oncebitten (Obama: "A Big Ole’ Hunk of Nothing on Two Thick Slices of Nada.”)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The Navy is using algae fuel on some ships. It costs much, much more than the other fuel. Of course the companies selling the algae fuel to the Navy are 0bama cronies.


26 posted on 02/23/2012 12:53:47 PM PST by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Algae is a "plantlike substance?" Man this guy really is a genius.
27 posted on 02/23/2012 12:54:12 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: cork

Think of it;
A 280,000 bbl/day algae refinery...


28 posted on 02/23/2012 12:55:21 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Beware the Sweater Vest)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“...you’ve got a bunch of algae out here...”

How articulate!


29 posted on 02/23/2012 12:55:51 PM PST by TKeith
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To: Free ThinkerNY
President Obama admitted today that he does not have a "silver bullet" solution for skyrocketing gas prices, but he proposed alternative energy sources such as "a plant-like substance, algae" as a way of cutting dependence on oil by 17 percent.

Unicorns must come in all shapes and sizes.
30 posted on 02/23/2012 12:55:51 PM PST by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: oncebitten
If anybody ever came up with a cost-effective solution for converting algae to fuel oil, it would only be a short matter of time before the USFWS would have algae placed on the endangered species list.
31 posted on 02/23/2012 12:58:10 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
He does realize that while technically feasible the gunk to oil process will never produce cheap fuel. It works if you have no other choice to walk. But it will never bring down the price of a gallon of gas.
32 posted on 02/23/2012 1:00:05 PM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: MNJohnnie
Actually it was switch grass, not saw grass, so technically you are right, although your pointless rant makes no sense. I clearly recall hearing GWBush yammering about it as an alternative energy fuel. I don't know if it was in a SOTU message, or some other speech, but yes, he said it. You can take it to the bank.
33 posted on 02/23/2012 1:01:00 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: cork
There is something mentally wrong with this idiot.

There's something mentally wrong with him but he is no idiot. He is following his proclaimed agenda. The idiots are the ones that believe this crap.

34 posted on 02/23/2012 1:01:08 PM PST by houeto (Mitt Romney - A Whiter Shade of FAIL)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

And in Obama’s case, use S**T as a substitute for brains...

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35 posted on 02/23/2012 1:02:35 PM PST by flatfish
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To: MNJohnnie; SkyDancer
Where did you get the notion that SkyDancer is a Leftist troll? Her history of posts on this forum says otherwise.

Also, Bush did indeed speak of cellulosic bio-fuels (which would include sawgrass).

You owe SkyDancer an apology.

36 posted on 02/23/2012 1:02:41 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Free ThinkerNY
President Obama admitted today that he does not have a "silver bullet" solution for skyrocketing gas prices.... I do....get your butt out of our White House!
37 posted on 02/23/2012 1:03:57 PM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Free ThinkerNY

...and to think, for all those years, the EPA made us KILL the algae that grew in sewage lagoons...


38 posted on 02/23/2012 1:04:05 PM PST by WayneS (Comments now include 25% more sarcasm for no additional charge...)
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To: TKeith

That’s it Obama. Burn the bottom of the Food Chain. Trickle Up Global Famine.


39 posted on 02/23/2012 1:04:10 PM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

“I’ll give him a pass on this one. A Chicago politician could easily believe there is a limitless supply of pond scum.”

Ok - that was FUNNY! LOL!


40 posted on 02/23/2012 1:05:32 PM PST by GOPRaleigh (Unexpected)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

This colossal dumb ass must go!!


41 posted on 02/23/2012 1:05:41 PM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Whose to say that what we call oil is not a form of algea? I read an interesting article once that was theorizing on this and it was actually pretty convincing. Seems that we keep finding that the known reserves are growing in size, even as we pump more out.....

I wish I could remember where I saw that article to bring it over, but alas, I am a senile old fool.


42 posted on 02/23/2012 1:06:03 PM PST by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Environmentalists aren’t going to have a problem removing algae on a very large scale, considering algae forms the basis of the aquatic food web, and who knows what else? The same people who have an issue with the windmills and birds, will be fine with this? I seriously doubt it.


43 posted on 02/23/2012 1:06:58 PM PST by Anima Mundi
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To: null and void

Renewable
Carbon Neutral
Whale Oil


The high input costs can be funded with more reality whale hunting TV shows where idiot twig munchers try to be seaman.


44 posted on 02/23/2012 1:10:55 PM PST by cornfedcowboy (Trust in God, but empty the clip.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

It’s Time for Slime! Go Green! See How America Looks While Walking!


45 posted on 02/23/2012 1:18:46 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: USMCPOP

It will cost $40k and GM workers will have to drive them home and keep their fuel supply in the pool. No more chlorine needed. A reservoir of slime will be at the ready in the backyard. Those without pools can take their slime home in a bucket.


46 posted on 02/23/2012 1:19:23 PM PST by petitfour
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To: cork
"...Algae!?!?..."

Yes, and don't you dare forget...keep those phakin' tires properly inflated!

47 posted on 02/23/2012 1:20:21 PM PST by skimbell
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Algae won’t do the trick. I even bought a couple website names when I thought it would be viable. The shear tonnage of mass you need to process makes it impractical for large scale production. There’s so much mass that you are better just burning it in a nearby powerplant. Not saying it doesn’t produce energy, just that it will never be a gasoline source.


48 posted on 02/23/2012 1:21:18 PM PST by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: MNJohnnie; USFRIENDINVICTORIA
Excuse me but:

"During his trip, Bush is also focusing on a proposal to increase investment in development of clean electric power sources, and proposals to speed the development of biofuels such as "cellulosic" ethanol made from wood chips or sawgrass

For your edification you might want to continue to read an FR article:

Bush: Nation is on Verge of Energy Technology Breakthroughs (Prez in Wisconsin, Monday) JSOnline via AP ^ | Fenruary 21, 2006 | AP Staff Writer Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 10:26:06 AM by Diana in Wisconsin.

Thanks for the backup USFRIENDINVICTORIA

49 posted on 02/23/2012 1:21:47 PM PST by SkyDancer ("No Matter How The People Vote There Will Always Be A Federal Judge To Over Turn It")
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To: MNJohnnie
To be fair that is complete BS without a hint of a shred of a notion of any connection with fact. But I know, you Leftist trolls never bother letting little things like intellectual honesty and factual accuracy get in the way of your mindless adoration of all things Democrat.

LOL! What a farce!

The exact quote was:

Keeping America competitive requires affordable energy. And here we have a serious problem: America is addicted to oil, which is often imported from unstable parts of the world. The best way to break this addiction is through technology. Since 2001, we have spent nearly $10 billion to develop cleaner, cheaper, and more reliable alternative energy sources. And we are on the threshold of incredible advances.

So tonight I announce the Advanced Energy Initiative—a 22-percent increase in clean-energy research at the Department of Energy—to push for breakthroughs in two vital areas. To change how we power our homes and offices, we will invest more in zero-emission coal-fired plants, revolutionary solar and wind technologies, and clean, safe nuclear energy.

We must also change how we power our automobiles. We will increase our research in better batteries for hybrid and electric cars and in pollution-free cars that run on hydrogen. We'll also fund additional research in cutting-edge methods of producing ethanol, not just from corn but from wood chips and stalks or switchgrass. Our goal is to make this new kind of ethanol practical and competitive within 6 years.

Breakthroughs on this and other new technologies will help us reach another great goal: to replace more than 75 percent of our oil imports from the Middle East by 2025. By applying the talent and technology of America, this country can dramatically improve our environment, move beyond a petroleum-based economy, and make our dependence on Middle Eastern oil a thing of the past.
Link

That was 2006. It's now 2012. So, ethanol should just about be competitive, right?

Truth is, that was just big-government posturing. Everyone knows corn ethanol is stinking political scam. And cellulosic ethanol is still largely a VC pipe dream. That's where it should stay — with the VCs. Republican or Democrat, the government should stay the hell out!

Let the VCs invest. And let the oil companies drill, drill drill!

50 posted on 02/23/2012 1:22:20 PM PST by cynwoody
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