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Why do so many people hate California?
SFGate: Politics Blog ^ | 2/23/12 | Emily Wilkins, Hearst Washington Bureau

Posted on 02/23/2012 1:31:25 PM PST by SmithL

Surf. Sun. Disneyland. What’s not to love about California?

Well, apparently, a lot of things. In a poll released Tuesday by the Public Policy Polling, California was the least popular state in the United States. Only 27 percent of Americans hold a favorable view of the Golden State compared to the 44 percent who view it unfavorably.

“There’s this arrogance about Californians,” said Patrick Dorinson, a radio host in California who refers to himself as the Cowboy Libertarian. “Californians still think it’s this great star. It’s a tarnished star at this point.”

The gap of 17 points puts California far behind Illinois (19 favorable, 29 not) and New Jersey (25 favorable, 32 not) as the least liked state in America.

“I’m actually quite surprised California fared so poorly,” said Albert M. Camarillo, a professor of history at Stanford University. “I think the national public knows of our difficult budget situation, our higher than average unemployment rate, the still very expensive housing market.”

The “Left Coast” is distinct in another way – more people have an opinion about California than any other state – only 28 percent of respondents couldn’t decide whether they liked the state or not.

(Excerpt) Read more at blog.sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: beserkeley; bluestate; california; gaystapo; goldenstate; granolastate; grapestate; hollyweird; hollywood; homosexualagenda; lalaland; limousineliberals; sanfranciscovalues; winestate
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To: Last of the Mohicans

I was about to post pics of those three harridans but you beat me to it. You, sir, have a great mind.


101 posted on 02/23/2012 4:34:22 PM PST by Pharmboy (She turned me into a Newt...)
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To: pogo101
A conservative suburb of Austin seems appealing

Thats funny right there...Im still laughing......oh man....

102 posted on 02/23/2012 4:36:17 PM PST by DainBramage
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To: ansel12

Bump for a telling graphic!

Thanks for posting it. May I pass on?


103 posted on 02/23/2012 4:49:37 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Priority 1: REPEAL OBAMACARE)
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To: DainBramage

Heh, so there IS no such suburb?

Reminds me of the joke in “Tootsie” by a cameraman, referring to Dustin Hoffman in response to a soap opera director: “I’d like to make her look a little more attractive. How far can you pull back [the camera]?”

“How do you feel about Cleveland?”


104 posted on 02/23/2012 4:51:11 PM PST by pogo101
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To: pogo101
Ive never been to Cleveland. But Austin... great town but you dont want to live there if you want conservatism in city government.
105 posted on 02/23/2012 4:54:34 PM PST by DainBramage
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To: SmithL
It seems that most of the really boneheaded ideas that became national policy originated in California. If it was enacted there, sooner or later the rest of us would have to be fighting to keep those policies from being implemented in our areas, or at the federal level.

I don't hate California, but I wish Californians would keep their policies in California.

106 posted on 02/23/2012 4:57:42 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

Get it out there as much as you can, but remember to label it California, I forgot to do that.


107 posted on 02/23/2012 4:58:37 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: ansel12

Chances are the incresingly dominant Catholic (democrat) vote in California is Hispanic. I think there is more at play there than religion. (amnesty, sanctuary cities, freebies, La Raza, etc.)


108 posted on 02/23/2012 5:03:49 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Regulator

See posts 31 and 43, I don’t think that boomers are the problem in California.

I think the 1965 Immigration Act is, it passed when boomer Sarah Palin was 1 year old.


109 posted on 02/23/2012 5:08:19 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Except that the Catholic vote has always been Democrat in our history, with them only voting for the Republican President 5 times.

One of those times was to reelect Bush in 2004 after voting against him in 2000, the national Catholic vote went 52% for Bush, while the Hispanic Protestant vote went 56% for Bush.


110 posted on 02/23/2012 5:16:06 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: ansel12
The Catholic voter came to dominate California and turned it into a Democrat stronghold,
111 posted on 02/23/2012 5:17:19 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Priority 1: REPEAL OBAMACARE)
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To: ansel12
The Catholic voter came to dominate California and turned it into a Democrat stronghold,In 2005 there were 11.1 million Catholics living in California.

In 2005 there were about 11 million Hispanics living in California.

You show about a 2/3 Dem to 1/3 Republican votes in your chart. I would bet good money that the vast majority of those Dem voters are Hispanics.

And never forget that El Presidente Jorge Bush was the one who flooded California with these Democrat voters from 2000 to 2008.

As if I need another reason to abandon the idiocy of the GOP. I detest the GOP for its cowardice and selling us out almost as much as I hate the Democrats for their evil and treason.

112 posted on 02/23/2012 5:27:38 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Priority 1: REPEAL OBAMACARE)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

See post 110. George Bush did not create the California Hispanic population, I would like to see your numbers for 1970 to 2008.


113 posted on 02/23/2012 5:41:41 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: brothers4thID

I lived in the SF bay area for 12 years for work I liked. I lived in the SF city limits for 7 years. By year 8, the experience of living in the bay area actually had me in a mild depression which persisted until I made the decision to forgo the work I liked and leave.

I’ll add to you list.

Market is awash with vomit and piss.

You can’t use the parks you paid for because they have all been taken over by whacked out homeless pukes.

There is a puke panhandler at every off-ramp from the elevated freeways, and tons more puke panhandlers all over downtown.

Once a week, the Critical Mass bicycle Nazis tie up traffic all over downtown San Francisco.

You can’t go a week without seeing a fag’s hairy ass in chaps and likely kissing another like fag.

Pedestrians don’t obey any of the traffic laws.

People turn right from the left lane, stop dead in the middle of streets, and will park anywhere they feel like it.

If you work, you can’t use the beach or Golden Gate on the weekends unless you like slam-dancing in body-to-body crowds.

You can’t park on your own street outside your house without getting a parking ticket.

At least once a month someone parking on the street blocks your driveway.

My commute of 19 miles across the bay bridge usually took 90 minutes, and I was in the NON PEAK commute direction going into the city after work.

One car with flat or out of gas could cause a traffic delay of up to 2 hours on the bay bridge.

Going anywhere is a supreme hassle and parking is worse.

There is nowhere you can work in San Francisco and most of the bay area where you can park for free rather than have to pay monthly parking.

Many many of the people are rude, selfish, opportunistic, vile, crass, arrogant, elitist, conceited and sure they are right about everything and know it all about everything.

Nobody is friendly unless they are drunk.

I could write a book.

You are darn tooting I hate California and I cannot wait to retire and move to Virginia.


114 posted on 02/23/2012 5:46:08 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (THE Priority: Repeal Obamacare or lose your nation)
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To: SmithL

Perhaps because its obvious to anybody with a lick of common sense that California is well on its way to becoming the first State version of Detroit?


115 posted on 02/23/2012 6:00:29 PM PST by mo
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To: Last of the Mohicans

I live in California and I hate the place, but yes, I would agree there are a lot of great things about California.

To me, that is a lot like saying, there are a lot of great things to like about my nymphomaniac supermodel wife, if only she was a bi-polar meth addict with AIDS.

See that is the rub with California. Oh yeah, it has a lot of great things like climate and scenery and attractions, and even jobs and good pay. It’s just that the escalating tyranny and the oppressive burden they claim on the sweat of your back sort of puts a damper on the rest of it.

Putting a concentration camp on the beach in Hawaii doesn’t change the fact it is a concentration camp.

An oppressive socialist utopian hellhole that taxes your labor into oblivion and crushes you with regulatory restrictions and burdens doesn’t suddenly become freedom just because of good weather and beaches.

Good luck to all of you who love it here and are staying. I hope you are happy. For me, I can’t get out if this oppressive communist hellhole soon enough. I want out of the concentration camp, even if the downside is a bit of overcast and rain.


116 posted on 02/23/2012 6:23:14 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (THE Priority: Repeal Obamacare or lose your nation)
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To: ansel12

I did not say Baby Bush created the entire problem, but it is an indisputable fact that he flood California with Hispanic immigrants legal and illegal, from 2000 to 2008. That is a documented fact.

What kind of idiot Republican floods a pivotal state that has over a hundred electoral votes with Democrat voters for 8 years.

I mean, at least I understand why rapist in chief Clinton flooded California with Hispanic Democrat voters from 1992 to 2000. It was in his interest to bury California with new Democratic Party voters.

Baby Bush had no such benefit to gain from burying California in Democrat voters.

I won’t bother to look up the stats and feel free to dispute them, but Baby Bush certainly let in a lot more Hispanic Dem voters from 2000 to 2008 then came in from 1970 to 1978. Immigration has been accelerating and Baby Bush let in more than Clinton even did, despite knowing he was just building up the Democratic Party voter base.

Baby Bush sold us out so his rich buddies could get richer for 8 years. He completely sold us out. Baby Bush is laughing all the way to the bank.


117 posted on 02/23/2012 6:36:33 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (THE Priority: Repeal Obamacare or lose your nation)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

I want to see that documentation, I’m not convinced that President Bush did that.

It isn’t just because you talk like this “Baby Bush”, “rapist in chief Clinton” .

If you can’t show the evidence then admit it.


118 posted on 02/23/2012 6:43:12 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: SmithL

People don’t hate California. They hate liberalism. It’s kind of hard to separate the two.


119 posted on 02/23/2012 6:46:48 PM PST by upsdriver (We Tea Partiers need Sarah Palin for president.)
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To: martin_fierro

“Festival ! Festival !”


120 posted on 02/23/2012 7:06:56 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj
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To: SmithL

Jealous of high deficits? I don’t think so.


121 posted on 02/23/2012 7:21:00 PM PST by JSDude1
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To: SmithL

Couldn’t happen to a nicer, more arrogant entity!


122 posted on 02/23/2012 7:26:14 PM PST by JSDude1
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To: SmithL

Not enough people hate this state. We had an earthquake when the 2 best baseball teams played eachother in San Francisco, but still millions of people pour into this state. So then the legislature spent their way into oblivion, and yet there are still millions moving into this state. Next up, 101% tax rate, $6/gallon gas, Big Brother Nanny Statism, Forced Child Indoctrination, Concentration Camps for Disagreeables, and Constitutional Dissolution; that won’t stop 1/2 a million people from moving here.


123 posted on 02/23/2012 9:29:08 PM PST by Kevmo (If you can define a man by the depravity of his enemies, Rick Santorum must be a noble soul indeed.)
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To: BelegStrongbow
I have a reason for disliking California: I spent 50 years there and despite everything I tried to do to prevent it, the place slipped slowly into total disarray and debasement.

Welcome, fellow member of the Half Century In California Club. I was born and raised there, and observed the very same dwindling spiral that you did. I moved my business and my family to Texas in 2005, and never looked back.

124 posted on 02/23/2012 9:45:26 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

What I hate MOST about CA is the “fruits and nuts (of the human variety)” they vote into office and send to D.C. to screw up the rest of the country!


125 posted on 02/23/2012 9:57:20 PM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Kevmo; Freedom_Is_Not_Free

“It was a different world in the 1950s and ‘60s, when roughly half of Californians were drawn from other states by jobs and by visions of crystalline blue skies in January and beach parties in September. The state’s shining image was burnished by a public relations machine that pushed attractive suburban real estate and a wide-open field for business.

As domestic immigration slowed between 1970 and 2000, foreign immigration filled in the gap. But since 2000, even the state’s once-growing immigrant population has been frozen at 27% of total residents. Since at least 2005, more residents have left California than arrived here from other states.”
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/nov/27/local/la-me-california-move-20111127


126 posted on 02/23/2012 9:57:22 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: martin_fierro

I can’t see any obvious wrong doing, just a bunch of people having a good time. Please enlighten me.

SF


127 posted on 02/23/2012 10:14:48 PM PST by SwampFoxOfVa
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To: redpoll
California reminds me of a women who was stunning in her youth, surrounded by suitors, but has since glided through life on her reputation, plastic surgery, and pharmecuticals, all the while insisting in a slurred, raspy, drunken voice that she is still the most attractive girl at the party. A shame.

Very shrewd observation, redpoll

129 posted on 02/24/2012 5:07:18 AM PST by Theodore R. (Forget the others: It's Santorum's turn, less baggage, articulate, passionate)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
What kind of idiot Republican floods a pivotal state that has over a hundred electoral votes with Democrat voters for 8 years.

It must be one of the mythical 7 of the 57 states that you're talking about. California certainly doesn't have 100 electoral votes.

132 posted on 02/24/2012 11:00:33 AM PST by Melas (u)
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