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Germany: Hundreds of thousands have no electricity ( Can't afford it.)
thelocal.de ^ | Published: 22 Feb 12 08:18 CET

Posted on 02/23/2012 2:20:11 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Hundreds of thousands of Germans are likely going without power simply because they can’t afford the bills, according to a North Rhine-Westphalian consumer organisation studying the problem.

According to the NRW Consumer Centre, more than 300,000 people in the state were threatened with a power shut-off and 62,000 financially struggling families actually had their electricity shut off in 2010 alone, the last year for which firm statistics are available.


Of the 58 companies the organisation surveyed, three-quarters reported that customers were having problems paying their bills, according to the organisation.

“Price increases of around 15 percent for electricity and gas in the past two years have meant that energy for many households is becoming an unaffordable commodity,” said Consumer Centre head Klaus Müller.

Müller estimated that roughly 120,000 households in North Rhine-Westphalia and 600,000 nationwide are today without power because of bill non-payment.

Under German law, power companies have to take a series of legal steps before cutting off someone’s power, including warning them multiple times. There are also protections making it harder to cut off power to vulnerable people, such as the disabled. But simply being unable or unwilling to pay bills is not a valid excuse.

The Local/DPA/mdm


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: climatechange; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; solarenergy

1 posted on 02/23/2012 2:20:15 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Isn’t this the country that’s supposed to bail out Greece? Sometimes it not good to be German.


2 posted on 02/23/2012 2:23:12 PM PST by mtg
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

What happened to their alternative energy?


3 posted on 02/23/2012 2:23:23 PM PST by mortal19440
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To: All; GeronL; bigbob; TigerLikesRooster; landsbaum; Signalman; NormsRevenge; steelyourfaith; ...
Merkel is reacting...not a direct statement however....thread I posted:

GERMANY PLANS RECORD CUTS IN SOLAR SUBSIDIES TO LIMIT BOOM

4 posted on 02/23/2012 2:23:44 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

What are their electricity rates like?

In the US, I think it’s about 12 cents per kilowatt-hour.


5 posted on 02/23/2012 2:24:48 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: mortal19440

See #4.


6 posted on 02/23/2012 2:25:00 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I’m sure it doesn’t have anything to do with subsidized green energy that failed, or that they decided to dump nuclear after Japan. Just can’t wait till Europe gets here.


7 posted on 02/23/2012 2:25:56 PM PST by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid)
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To: smokingfrog
In California....rates can go above that.

And are heading higher.

In the East the EPA is busy shutting down Coal powered power plants.

8 posted on 02/23/2012 2:27:50 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Der elektrostromfahrtenstinengetmaker ist zu feuer fur die meisten Krauteneatenfarters.


9 posted on 02/23/2012 2:28:52 PM PST by righttackle44 (I may not be much, but I raised a United States Marine.)
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To: GeronL; bigbob; All
H/T to geronl,,,bigbob for pointing out this story.
10 posted on 02/23/2012 2:30:33 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; landsbaum; Signalman; NormsRevenge; steelyourfaith; Lancey Howard; ...

fyi


11 posted on 02/23/2012 2:32:29 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: smokingfrog

La, cost is $.204 per hour.


12 posted on 02/23/2012 2:32:39 PM PST by org.whodat (Sorry bill, I should never have made all those jokes about you and Lewinsky, have fun.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Coming to a city or town near you soon.


13 posted on 02/23/2012 2:33:30 PM PST by GracieOMalley
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

BUMP


14 posted on 02/23/2012 2:34:04 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: mtg

Germany is the engine of Europe.....and they are close to some very serious cold winter conditions ....


15 posted on 02/23/2012 2:34:19 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Viele Danke for the post

What the story does not go into what caused those rate increases. It does go into slow nat gas deliveries from Russia’s GasProm but that’s it. Sounds like 15% per year increase for the past 2 years .Wonder if it was some form of “Cap N Trade” EPA penaltiy which is what is causing out power proces to go up and up.


16 posted on 02/23/2012 2:37:33 PM PST by mosesdapoet ("The best way to punish a country is let professors run it. Fredrick the Great p/p)
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To: smokingfrog
Found the big stinker, tax on electricity in Germany was 41%.
17 posted on 02/23/2012 2:37:48 PM PST by org.whodat (Sorry bill, I should never have made all those jokes about you and Lewinsky, have fun.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Why doesn’t say Al Gore give them a few million to provide for them to be able to turn on a light during those cold dark winter nights.


18 posted on 02/23/2012 2:42:18 PM PST by Marine_Uncle
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To: smokingfrog
What are their electricity rates like?

Wikipedia (yes, I know the warnings) lists it at 36.48 US cents per kilowatt-hour.

19 posted on 02/23/2012 2:43:08 PM PST by KarlInOhio (You only have three billion heartbeats in a lifetime.How many does the government claim as its own?)
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To: org.whodat

Good Grief!


20 posted on 02/23/2012 2:43:36 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: KarlInOhio

They must have foot pedals on their Intel computers....


21 posted on 02/23/2012 2:45:55 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: throwback; Ernest_at_the_Beach
What we need is a country more like Dickensian England Europe.
22 posted on 02/23/2012 2:57:25 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
“Price increases of around 15 percent for electricity ...

Only 15%? What are they whining about? Rates in Hawaii have increased 34% in the past 12 months and are posed to go even higher.

23 posted on 02/23/2012 3:01:40 PM PST by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

A young German fraulein I know, very bright, top of her class, etc, was ranting about nuclear power in the US and how virtuous Germany is in getting rid of it. But what does that mean to someone who can no longer afford it?

On the other hand, she was very upset that her income from summer and part-time is still considered “household income” because her mother is on the German equivalent of welfare.

It provided a teachable moment about how socialism sounds like a really cool idea until it happens to YOU!


24 posted on 02/23/2012 3:09:00 PM PST by bigbob
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The Germans could probably employ more people at higher wages if they would build arms, increase the size of their military and prepare for war.


25 posted on 02/23/2012 3:09:30 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it. (plagiarized))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Where are they located within Germany? East Germany is still catching up after being occupied by the Soviet Union, no?


26 posted on 02/23/2012 3:20:01 PM PST by donna (The United States Constitution and the Koran are mutually exclusive.)
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To: mtg

“Isn’t this the country that’s supposed to bail out Greece? Sometimes it not good to be German.”
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I think that it’s more along the lines of “It’s no longer any good to be German if you want to be a deadbeat. Work and pay your bills or you suffer the consequences.” And that sounds like a pretty good idea to me.


27 posted on 02/23/2012 3:37:00 PM PST by House Atreides
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To: House Atreides

I can’t afford to run the a/c in South Florida UGH.

Been a warm winter so far. 83 inside now.


28 posted on 02/23/2012 3:42:21 PM PST by bicyclerepair ( REPLACE D-W-S ! http://www.karenforcongress.com)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Green Power costs.

One wonders how many are Muslim immigrants, or does Germany provide the immigrant trough feeders with free power?


29 posted on 02/23/2012 4:28:49 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Yet they funnel more money to Muslim immigrants having more and more kids on the taxpayers’ welfare dole.


30 posted on 02/23/2012 5:21:49 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: donna

Don’t know where they are located.


31 posted on 02/23/2012 5:33:02 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; TenthAmendmentChampion; SolitaryMan; Dr. Bogus Pachysandra; grey_whiskers; ...
Thanx for the ping Ernest_at_the_Beach !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

32 posted on 02/23/2012 6:32:11 PM PST by steelyourfaith (Expel the Occupy White House squatters !!!)
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To: donna; Ernest_at_the_Beach
The article says North Rhein Westphalia. That is in the far West, over near Holland. Nowhere near the old East Germany.

We have friends in Dusseldorf, which is in NRW. I'm sure Jurgen is blazing mad about all the energy stupidity going on in Germany. Shutting down nukes in favor of wind and solar with huge subsidies is insane. They'll end up buying really expensive (nuclear) power from the French, instead of generating their own nuclear power much more economically.

Koln and Bonn, the old capital before reunification, are also in NRW.


33 posted on 02/24/2012 1:26:19 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster

The US has “Colonias” in the border states and in areas that are not incoporated. Too bad we no longer have a media to report such things:

The colonias have the largest concentration of people living without basic services in the United States.
http://seco.cpa.state.tx.us/colonias.htm


34 posted on 02/24/2012 11:38:31 AM PST by donna (The United States Constitution and the Koran are mutually exclusive.)
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To: donna

You know, I didn’t know about this, but as soon as I read your post and thought about it for two seconds, I pretty well knew what was going to be at the link.


35 posted on 02/24/2012 5:58:55 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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