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Gingrich first to hit Obama for Afghanistan apology
CNN Politics ^ | 2/23/12 | Kevin Liptak

Posted on 02/23/2012 3:15:06 PM PST by Lakeshark

Newt Gingrich emerged Thursday as the first Republican White House hopeful to criticize President Barack Obama for apologizing after Muslim holy books containing extremist language were burned by NATO soldiers.

Gingrich told a crowd in Spokane, Washington, "President Obama surrendered twice today and I think that deserves to be brought to the country's attention."
**snip**
He continued, "The president apologized for the burning, but I haven't seen the president demand that the government of Afghanistan apologize for the killing of two young Americans."

Gingrich said Obama was ignoring the treat of radical Muslims intent on harming Americans.

"There seems to be nothing that radical Islamists can do to get Barack Obama's attention in a negative way, and he is consistently apologizing to people who do not deserve the apology of the president of the United States, period," Gingrich said.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abughraib; gingrich; gingrichpalin; islam; newt; newtgingrich; newtpalin; obama; palin; sarahpalin
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To: sam_paine

I think Palin’s role is more important and effective than you give her credit for, but Newt is the one who will actually make electoral headway against Obama, so I’m glad he stepped up.

Have any of the other three candidates said anything remotely like this yet?


101 posted on 02/24/2012 5:37:37 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (Don't stop. Keep moving!)
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To: Lakeshark

I am sure a Moslem or two reads about this somewhere eventually.

We have a burning Koran behind every blade of grass in America.


102 posted on 02/24/2012 5:37:50 AM PST by Eye of Unk (Liberals need not reply.)
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To: sam_paine
Palin is more and more just the obnoxious parent in the little league stands. Santorum and Romney should join her.

Obnoxious parent? What are you talking about?

103 posted on 02/24/2012 5:40:11 AM PST by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom. We have ideas-the Dems only have ideology.)
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To: exit82
Obnoxious parent?

Sitting on the sidelines telling everyone else how to play the game.

104 posted on 02/24/2012 5:43:33 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: hoosiermama

O’Really was unwatchable last night.

HAdn;t watched him for awhile, then remembered why.


105 posted on 02/24/2012 5:44:47 AM PST by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom. We have ideas-the Dems only have ideology.)
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To: hoosiermama

O’Really was unwatchable last night.

HAdn;t watched him for awhile, then remembered why.


106 posted on 02/24/2012 5:44:58 AM PST by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom. We have ideas-the Dems only have ideology.)
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To: hoosiermama

O’Really was unwatchable last night.

HAdn;t watched him for awhile, then remembered why.


107 posted on 02/24/2012 5:44:58 AM PST by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom. We have ideas-the Dems only have ideology.)
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To: hoosiermama

Sorry for the triple post.


108 posted on 02/24/2012 5:46:35 AM PST by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom. We have ideas-the Dems only have ideology.)
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To: sam_paine
Sitting on the sidelines telling everyone else how to play the game.

The entire GOP leadership is AWOL on this and other issues, but she's the one sitting on the sidelines. Right, sam.

BTW, thanks to Ms. Sitting on the Sidelines Being Obnoxious, John Boner has the Speaker's gavel this time around.

109 posted on 02/24/2012 5:49:33 AM PST by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom. We have ideas-the Dems only have ideology.)
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To: sam_paine
Sitting on the sidelines telling everyone else how to play the game.

The entire GOP leadership is AWOL on this and other issues, but she's the one sitting on the sidelines. Right, sam.

BTW, thanks to Ms. Sitting on the Sidelines Being Obnoxious, John Boner has the Speaker's gavel this time around.

110 posted on 02/24/2012 5:49:37 AM PST by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom. We have ideas-the Dems only have ideology.)
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To: Future Snake Eater
I think Palin’s role is more important and effective than you give her credit for, but Newt is the one who will actually make electoral headway against Obama, so I’m glad he stepped up.

Palin's role in today's conservative movement is this week's 140 character twitter substitute for William F Buckley's four decades of eloquent and biting intellect.

She's becoming our beautiful version of Susan Estrich.

111 posted on 02/24/2012 5:50:16 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: sam_paine

Brevity is the soul of wit. Why write 10 pages when 140 characters will do?


112 posted on 02/24/2012 5:53:59 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (Don't stop. Keep moving!)
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To: Lakeshark

Whorealdo was on FOX and Friends a while ago, and said that 0bama was right on apologizing. What an ass. I immediately muted him of course


113 posted on 02/24/2012 5:55:28 AM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: sam_paine; All

As much as I respect Governor Palin and all the effort she’s put forward and taking into consideration the “sacrilege” quotient here on FR; you have a point. There were and are people in this nation’s history who had a lot more to lose and still stepped forward in an hour of need.
If she didn’t want to run, that’s her business. If she wants to participate in the upper echelons of political discourse, God bless her. I would have liked to see her go for it, unfortunately it wasn’t the case. I make it a habit not to let the actions of others affect my mood, so I really wasn’t disappointed when she chose not to become a candidate.
Does she perpetually pussyfoot because she believes it’s necessary to maintain relevance? She’s relevant because she was governor and candidate for the vice-presidency. Her popularity is based upon her straight forwardness not because she’s enigmatic.


114 posted on 02/24/2012 6:12:58 AM PST by j.argese (FR is a Newt-ist Colony, not a Romney Room, Paul Pavillion or Santorum Sanctum)
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To: VinL
“We should say good bye and good luck, we don’t need to be wasting our time and our money,” Gingrich said.

Newt Gingrich, said it was “an outrage” for the president to issue an apology on the same day two U.S. troops were killed by Afghan soldiers. “It is Hamid Karzai who owes the American people an apology, not the other way around. This destructive double standard whereby the United States and its democratic allies refuse to hold accountable leaders who tolerate systematic violence and oppression in their borders must come to an end.”

115 posted on 02/24/2012 6:22:34 AM PST by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: Future Snake Eater
Brevity is the soul of wit. Why write 10 pages when 140 characters will do?

Ok "Brevity is the soul of wit." But don't get confused.

All that is short is not witty.

"Bush lied, people died!" <- less than 140 characters.

116 posted on 02/24/2012 6:27:16 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: j.argese
There were and are people in this nation’s history who had a lot more to lose and still stepped forward in an hour of need.

OTOH, she might have done more damage to the Conservative cause if she were still in the race getting beat up by Santorum and Gingrich.

117 posted on 02/24/2012 6:51:02 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: sam_paine
the article mentions that Palin may have been the first to actually come out publicly and criticize Bambi, but Newt was the first candidate to do so.
I give credit to Newt for actually bothering to go to the effort to actually run, given all the slings and arrows of the media.
He's in the ring. Up at bat. etc etc.
Palin is more and more just the obnoxious parent in the little league stands. Santorum and Romney should join her.


Can't argue with that logic. Newt is in the arena, swinging his sword at the lions, Sarah is up in the skybox cheering 'GO CHRISTIANS!! GO CHRISTIANS!! RAAAAH!!!!'


118 posted on 02/24/2012 6:55:22 AM PST by mkjessup (Romney is to conservatism what e.coli is to an all-you-can-eat salad bar. NO ROMNEY!!!)
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To: exit82; sam_paine
BTW, thanks to Ms. Sitting on the Sidelines Being Obnoxious, John Boner has the Speaker's gavel this time around.

Yeah, that's done us a whole lotta good. At least Boner has been able to get in a few extra games of golf with the Dear Reader.
119 posted on 02/24/2012 7:01:34 AM PST by mkjessup (Romney is to conservatism what e.coli is to an all-you-can-eat salad bar. NO ROMNEY!!!)
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To: Eye of Unk
I am sure a Moslem or two reads about this somewhere eventually.
We have a burning Koran behind every blade of grass in America.


Sorry I missed your astute post earlier, I was in the bathroom dumping a big load of Mohammed in my toilet. Used 20 sheets of the Koran to wipe my ass too.
120 posted on 02/24/2012 7:04:43 AM PST by mkjessup (Romney is to conservatism what e.coli is to an all-you-can-eat salad bar. NO ROMNEY!!!)
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To: sam_paine

True, but I don’t understand what was wrong with what she said. It was concise, it was straight to the point. It didn’t pull punches, it certainly wasn’t unfair. It managed to simultaneously make Obama look like a groveling fool and not seem accusatory.

I thought it was well-stated and effective.


121 posted on 02/24/2012 7:17:10 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (Don't stop. Keep moving!)
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To: Marguerite; bevperl

FROM Beverly Perlson of The Band Of Mothers:

Thank you, Speaker Gingrich, for having the courage to take a stand against this weak spineless Campaigner-in-Chief!

Where is the apology to the mothers of these two Brave Soldiers?!!

Where are the mothers of these radical jihadis and why are they not reminding their little maniacs that Islam is a religion of peace and to stop their jihad?!!!

Where are the leaders of CAIR, ISNA, Suhail Khan and Grover Norquist and Keith Ellison?! Why is there always silence from all of these organizations and their leaders when these murdering disciples of the Koran murder our children and blow up their own?! They are a disgraceful bunch scurrying around filing lawsuits against all of us!

Please call the White House and ask where is the apology to these grieving mothers?!
Switchboard: 202-456-1414 or 202-456-6213 (comments).

Please call your Congressmen/Senators! Our troops really need us to take a stand for them right now! Please keep them in your prayers. Thank you.

Beverly Perlson
The Band of Mothers


122 posted on 02/24/2012 7:31:43 AM PST by seekthetruth (I want a Commander In Chief who honors and supports our Military!)
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To: mkjessup

He may not be the best Speaker we could have, but I do wonder why many beat up on John Boehner and the Republicans, who have passed tons of legislation, but we never hear a peep out of the Boehner bashers that Harry Reid sits in the Senate with all that legislation shoved in his drawer! The Democrats love to hear us Republicans beat up on our Republican Congress!


123 posted on 02/24/2012 7:44:54 AM PST by seekthetruth (I want a Commander In Chief who honors and supports our Military!)
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To: mkjessup; sam_paine

And exactly what are the two of you doing? Sitting on the sidelines criticizing?

At least Sarah Palin is speaking out. You have no idea what her family was put through and how much it cost them. Neither do I by the way. Obviously, she counted the cost and didn’t think she could pay it.

If you are so concerned about it, how about you run for President.


124 posted on 02/24/2012 8:59:35 AM PST by christianhomeschoolmommaof3
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To: sam_paine

I’m not sure what they could have hit her with. She’s fiscally responsible, she’s got the social conservatives behind her, the Tea Party types as well. Had she entered, I don’t see that Bachmann, Perry, Gringrich or even Santorum would have jumped in.
I think Pawlenty, Paul and Romney would have and the lines would have been crystal clear.


125 posted on 02/24/2012 9:01:37 AM PST by j.argese (FR is a Newt-ist Colony, not a Romney Room, Paul Pavillion or Santorum Sanctum)
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3; sam_paine
And exactly what are the two of you doing? Sitting on the sidelines criticizing?

Listen up you ignoramus, I spend PLENTY of time working for the conservative cause, and that includes contacting legislators by email, snail mail, phone calls, faxes, AND that is separate from my anti-Romney operation that goes on 24 hours a day, even when I'm sleeping. I have family recruited in 7 states that agree that Romney is poison to conservatives and the GOP, AND we do all we can to promote, support and underwrite Newt Gingrich's campaign. So now you have an idea of what exactly I'm doing, and it's NOT sitting on the sidelines, so you think about that before you start running your piehole again, you got that?

At least Sarah Palin is speaking out.

Just like that obnoxious parent in the bleachers, as Sam Paine so accurately described it. She blew her chance to get into this contest, but not before soaking her fans one more time to give, give, give-until-it-hurts to her SarahPAC when she KNEW she was going to opt out of this presidential campaign.

You have no idea what her family was put through and how much it cost them.

Oh I can tell that whole family has been suffering night and day, with a minimum of a 7 figure bank balance oppressing their family budget, TV programs, the fawning sighs of all the fans (like you), oh yeah Momma, we should ALL have to suffer like that, LOL

Obviously, she counted the cost and didn’t think she could pay it.

Better patriots than her have given all for this Nation, and they paid lots more than anything she has, or will ever have for the freedoms and liberties we have enjoyed up to this point.

If you are so concerned about it, how about you run for President.

That final statement of yours demonstrates all anyone needs to know about your maturity. Grow up.
126 posted on 02/24/2012 9:29:05 AM PST by mkjessup (Romney is to conservatism what e.coli is to an all-you-can-eat salad bar. NO ROMNEY!!!)
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To: Lakeshark

I agree. We’re apologizing to head-choppers for offending their delicate sensibilities? That is insane. Just because a person puts on a big show of being offended, it doesn’t automatically mean that it is warranted.

It’s really disturbing how people think that the muslims must be onto some really great cause because they’re willing to commit suicide for it. They’re no more right than the nazis were, and look at how they devastated Europe before they were forcibly stopped. If they had their way, it would’ve been the entire world.


127 posted on 02/24/2012 9:35:01 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather; Lakeshark

Thanks for affirming that I wasn’t imagining the unholy alliance between Romney and Paul.

I could definitely support a Newt/Rick ticket in 2012. When Newt called the mainstream media on the carpet for not questioning obama about his vote FOR infanticide, I thought my wife was going to kiss the television screen. Newt said long ago that the debates should center around obama’s pathetic performance as president and how a conservative president will turn our country around.

EODGUY


128 posted on 02/24/2012 9:35:01 AM PST by EODGUY (Hold on to your copies of the Consititution of the United States. It is going to be re-written.)
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To: seekthetruth
He may not be the best Speaker we could have

We went from the 'Shrieker' of the House (Pelosi) to the 'Weeper' of the House, Boner has a spine of Jello and we've seen way too much of that out of the establishment RINO-country club/golf course set.

but I do wonder why many beat up on John Boehner and the Republicans

You answered your own question.

who have passed tons of legislation

Boner should have focused less on legislation, and MORE on investigations, subpoenas and Articles of Impeachment. There is more solid evidence to begin impeachment proceedings than ANY other occupant of the White House in history, but Boner's balls are non-existent. As far as he is concerned, it's just another day at the office and he has become a default enabler of the Kenyan Usurper and we all know it.

but we never hear a peep out of the Boehner bashers that Harry Reid sits in the Senate with all that legislation shoved in his drawer! The Democrats love to hear us Republicans beat up on our Republican Congress!

We KNOW Reid isn't going to a damn thing which is all the more reason impeachment proceedings should have been started LONG ago. If Reid is going to be an ally and enabler of 0bama, then put his ass on the spot and make him as high profile as possible. Boner's milquetoast approach to running the House may well cost the GOP control in the next election, there is no way to know - but it would be far better to damn the torpedoes and full speed ahead and make the Kenyan bastard pay and pay dearly, with absolute unconditional political warfare out of the House.
129 posted on 02/24/2012 9:42:54 AM PST by mkjessup (Romney is to conservatism what e.coli is to an all-you-can-eat salad bar. NO ROMNEY!!!)
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To: Lakeshark
Newt:...."There seems to be nothing that radical Islamists can do to get Barack Obama's attention in a negative way, and he is consistently apologizing to people who do not deserve the apology of the president of the United States, period," Gingrich said."

This while Hillary meets with the International Community trying to push thru "International Law" against saying anything bad about Islam or it's peoples and calling it an International Crime.....

We are so far over the edge of the cliff.....and falling. Newt and those he will appoint are indeed the only hope to bring our sovernity back and the only hands equipped to pull it off.

130 posted on 02/24/2012 10:25:31 AM PST by caww
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To: mkjessup; christianhomeschoolmommaof3

LOL. mkjess and I have gone at it before, but on this we’re in agreement.

Palin was called to do great things. She started out pitch perfect in her acceptance speech. BUT She fumbled the opportunity to build on 2008. That in itself is human. Respectable. No problem with it.

If she had stayed with that, or gone forward, then she’d deserve respect.

She picked a tangent and took a lot of people with her (like you?) out of the real fight.

The subsequent circus bus show taunt was pathetic. Imagine Reagan going on a Wild West hollywood road show or something after 1964 instead of backing up and running for governer in California.

That hard work up to and including the 1976 convention and beyond is why Reagan deserves reverence, and Palin does not.


131 posted on 02/24/2012 10:28:38 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: TigersEye; bevperl; TemplarAkolyte; 2warvet; okie in minnesota; MNComputerGeek; right2parent; ...
Keith Ellison, the first Muslim Congressman:
I hope all MN Freepers call Muslim Congressman Keith Ellison's office today and ask him to come out publicly and denounce the murder of those two Brave Soldiers over in Afghanistan and call for all of his brothers to settle down over there and show us this is the religion of peace they claim it is!
http://www.investigativeproject.org/1533/rep-keith-ellison-the-islamists-man-on-capitol
Congressman Keith Ellison
202-225-4755
132 posted on 02/24/2012 10:33:20 AM PST by seekthetruth (I want a Commander In Chief who honors and supports our Military!)
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To: mkjessup

You call me an ignoramus, tell me to shut my piehole and say this upthread “ I was in the bathroom dumping a big load of Mohammed in my toilet. Used 20 sheets of the Koran to wipe my ass too.”, and I am immature?

That is laughable.

You are on here criticizing Sarah Palin for not doing enough and you think you are doing PLENTY. OKAY!!!!
You are doing nothing more than MOST conservatives on this site.

You accused Sarah of doing nothing more than cheering from the stands. Exactly, what office are you running for while CRITICIZING Sarah Palin for not running for President?

I am not a Sarah fan; I also have nothing against her. I never wanted her to run for President but that is beside the point. I don’t care how much money the woman makes. Nothing can make up for the character assassination perpetrated on this woman and her family by the media.

You think you could put up with what she went through? You couldn’t even put up with a random stranger on the internet criticizing your comment without getting angry and attacking me personally.

“Better patriots than her have given all for this Nation”
It is much easier to compare what Sarah Palin has done for this Nation to what OTHERS have done for this nation than it is to compare her to yourself, isn’t it?


133 posted on 02/24/2012 10:48:35 AM PST by christianhomeschoolmommaof3
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To: sam_paine

Thank you for your reasoned and respectful reply.

I am not a Sarah fan and I didn’t want her to run for President. I also have nothing against her.

I am working for the conservative cause. I haven’t done nearly as much for that cause as Sarah Palin has done and I also haven’t paid nearly so dear a price as she. I would never criticize someone else for something I couldn’t begin to comprehend.

If I had the media invade my hometown and do everything they could to attack me, my husband and my children, I do not think I could have handled it as well as Sarah.

How do you think you would have handled it? That was my point.


134 posted on 02/24/2012 10:49:06 AM PST by christianhomeschoolmommaof3
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To: sam_paine
I give credit to Newt for actually bothering to go to the effort to actually run, given all the slings and arrows of the media.

I also give him a lot of credit. Of course, he's my #1 choice.

After his fall he spent quite a few years in "exile", and I imagine he thought he would not get another chance. But he wasn't idle during those years, he wrote dozens of books, traveled, spoke, debated, taught, and essentially did what he could. He built his personal fortune to make himself financially independent.

And when things in the country got bad enough, the door opened for him to reenter the fray. When you've got the baggage he's got, getting back in requires courage, because everything you ever did or said is going to be thrown right in your face. But he has faced it gracefully and cheerfully for the most part.

So, I like the guy. I think the fact that he lost it all and had to earn it back has made him a better and stronger person, and he was pretty tough to begin with. I think he'll make a fine president, baggage and all.

135 posted on 02/24/2012 11:01:01 AM PST by marron
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3; sam_paine
You call me an ignoramus, tell me to shut my piehole and say this upthread “I was in the bathroom dumping a big load of Mohammed in my toilet. Used 20 sheets of the Koran to wipe my ass too.”, and I am immature?

You certainly are immature, because you fail to recognize an obvious and deliberate slur at the death cult known as Islam. And you would probably have had to use over 50 sheets.

That is laughable.

I thought it was pretty funny myself. If it pissed off some Muslims, all the better.

You are on here criticizing Sarah Palin for not doing enough and you think you are doing PLENTY. OKAY!!!! You are doing nothing more than MOST conservatives on this site.

You come into the thread accusing Sam Paine and I of 'being on the sidelines' without knowing jack squat about what we (or anyone) does, and you were obviously talking out of your chronic ignorance, so let me help you out here: 'don't write checks with your mouth that your ass can't cash'. Got it?

You accused Sarah of doing nothing more than cheering from the stands. Exactly, what office are you running for while CRITICIZING Sarah Palin for not running for President?

I presently occupy the office of CITIZEN and I have every right to criticize Sarah Palin or any other bloviating big mouth who talks the talk, and talks the talk, and talks the talk, get the picture, sister?

I am not a Sarah fan; I also have nothing against her. I never wanted her to run for President but that is beside the point. I don’t care how much money the woman makes. Nothing can make up for the character assassination perpetrated on this woman and her family by the media.

"I am not a Sarah Fan", methinks thou protesteth too much. As for the media? She knew from the git-go what she was letting herself in for, and the fact is, the media has been her willing accomplice in promoting her presence, her causes, her bus tours, her reality shows, and without that media she would never have become the celebrity superstar she is today. Ohhhh yes, she has suffered immensely (snicker).

You think you could put up with what she went through? You couldn’t even put up with a random stranger on the internet criticizing your comment without getting angry and attacking me personally.

You're no random stranger, you're a poster on FR and YOU chose to engage Sam Paine and I in this thread, and you got your ass handed to you for your troubles. Looks good on you.

“Better patriots than her have given all for this Nation”
It is much easier to compare what Sarah Palin has done for this Nation to what OTHERS have done for this nation than it is to compare her to yourself, isn’t it?


NOW who is making it personal? LMAO!

So tell us Chicky Boo, what have YOU done for the Republic lately?
136 posted on 02/24/2012 11:04:54 AM PST by mkjessup (Romney is to conservatism what e.coli is to an all-you-can-eat salad bar. NO ROMNEY!!!)
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3
I also have nothing against her.... I would never criticize someone else for something I couldn’t begin to comprehend.

I did want her to run for president. And what do you know about what Pelosi or well, Barney Frank has done to win his elections and push his agenda. Ugh. I can't begin to comprehend what he has done...ugh...but I sure as hell feel free to criticize him and his, uh, positions!

If I had the media invade my hometown and do everything they could to attack me, my husband and my children, I do not think I could have handled it as well as Sarah. How do you think you would have handled it?

Better than Cain, but not as well as Newt.

Palin didn't handle it at all. She jumped on the pop-celebrity wagon. That was my point.

137 posted on 02/24/2012 11:06:08 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: sam_paine; All
LOL. mkjessup and I have gone at it before, but on this we’re in agreement.
Palin was called to do great things. She started out pitch perfect in her acceptance speech. BUT She fumbled the opportunity to build on 2008. That in itself is human. Respectable. No problem with it.
If she had stayed with that, or gone forward, then she’d deserve respect.
She picked a tangent and took a lot of people with her (like you?) out of the real fight.
The subsequent circus bus show taunt was pathetic. Imagine Reagan going on a Wild West hollywood road show or something after 1964 instead of backing up and running for governor in California.
That hard work up to and including the 1976 convention and beyond is why Reagan deserves reverence, and Palin does not.


**BRAVO SAM!!**

Concisely and eloquently well said!
138 posted on 02/24/2012 11:08:28 AM PST by mkjessup (Romney is to conservatism what e.coli is to an all-you-can-eat salad bar. NO ROMNEY!!!)
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To: seekthetruth

Thanks for posting! Keith Ellison, the first Muslim Congressman:
Please call Keith Ellison’s office today too and ask him to come out publicly and denounce the murder of those two Brave Soldiers over in Afghanistan and call for all of his brothers to settle down over there and show us this is the religion of peace they claim it is!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.investigativeproject.org/1533/rep-keith-ellison-the-islamists-man-on-capitol
Congressman Keith Ellison
202-225-4755


139 posted on 02/24/2012 11:19:40 AM PST by bevperl (Support our Troops!)
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To: mkjessup

I certainly understand your slur, I just don’t find it intelligent or mature. Do you understand the meaning of the word immature? It means having emotional or intellectual development appropriate to someone younger. Calling names and potty humor (even as an insult) is certainly immature.

Insults do not amount to an argument. You can tell me I got my “ass” handed to me but you fail to refute my argument. You are certainly free to criticize Palin as I am certainly free to comment on it.

An honest question here...Are you jealous of Sarah Palin? If not, you may want to tone down the criticism of her financial success because that is how it sounds.

Why compare Sarah Palin to others and not to yourself? If you have given up everything for this nation you might have a point. It wasn’t personal.

You accused me of being a Sarah Palin fan and all I did was answer your charge. Exactly how is that protesting too much? Please feel free to check my posting history if you can’t take my word.

You aren’t new to this forum but this is the first time I remember crossing paths with you. Not sure if you are male or female. You are very rude, illogical, foul mouthed and you continue to try to make things personal. You aren’t actually debating the topic. All this is making you look very petty and it is diluting any argument you may have.

As for what I am doing personally: I write, call, pray, visit my legislators, petition, attend rallies, campaign, contribute, teach my children, vote, and educate myself and my circle of influence.


140 posted on 02/24/2012 11:46:04 AM PST by christianhomeschoolmommaof3
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To: Bluestocking

Well said!


141 posted on 02/24/2012 11:51:46 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: sam_paine

“Palin didn’t handle it at all. She jumped on the pop-celebrity wagon. That was my point”

She still ran for VP under the pressure she was receiving. Remember this started 4 years ago with her. I didn’t see Cain’s or Gingrich’s children lied about. I didn’t see the paternity of their children brought into question. The assault of Sarah’s family is the dirtiest politics I have ever seen. I think people tend to forget the viciousness of the attacks on the Palin family.

Cain did not continue his bid for the Presidency when he was attacked.

None of us know her motivations for doing what she did. She has her reasons. It really doesn’t matter. She counted the cost and it wasn’t worth it for whatever reasons. It doesn’t mean she isn’t doing anything for conservatism and for us to think that our efforts are superior to hers is hubris (if that is what you think).

I do not like her pop-celebrity stuff. I think it lends cred to all the arguments against her as VP.

Again thank you for a reasoned discussion.


142 posted on 02/24/2012 12:05:16 PM PST by christianhomeschoolmommaof3
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To: sam_paine

I just reread this and I think you may have misunderstood what I meant.

I wouldn’t criticize Palin for not running for President because I could not begin to comprehend what her family has been through. IOW, I can understand why she wouldn’t want to put her family through that again.


143 posted on 02/24/2012 12:10:14 PM PST by christianhomeschoolmommaof3
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To: mkjessup; sam_paine; christianhomeschoolmommaof3; seekthetruth
Sarah Palin on Alaska job: I can’t take it anymore, reveals new public emails


Keyboard warrior FRiends, take note .

It's not very wise to attack Sarah Palin on this forum.

144 posted on 02/24/2012 12:19:34 PM PST by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: Lakeshark
“There seems to be nothing that radical Islamists can do to get Barack Obama’s attention in a negative way, and he has consistently apologized to the people who do not deserve the apology of the president of the United States, period,” Gingrich said.
145 posted on 02/24/2012 12:24:24 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (Cometh the hour, cometh the man. NEWT GINGRICH 2012)
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To: onyx

Wow interesting thread you linked to. There was alot edited out.


146 posted on 02/24/2012 12:31:47 PM PST by christianhomeschoolmommaof3
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3

It’s real simple.

I think you and I both were happy to see her ascend to the national scene at the time.

I think we both agree that the MSM has been especially hard on her.

From there and around about 2009 we begin to disagree.

You still find her a sympathetic character.

I don’t.

The key disconnect here is that you seem to believe that she made a rational choice in the face of public attacks, to protect her family and personal life.

That’s not consistent with the FACT that, hello, SHE’S STILL OUT GABBING IN PUBLIC, ON TV, ON FACEBOOK, ON TWITTER, ON BOOK TOURS, ON RUBBER CHICKEN SPEECH CIRCUITS. She’s still exposing her family!

In other words, she’s out milking the conservative cow while Newt and others are out there fighting the enemy.


147 posted on 02/24/2012 12:41:58 PM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3; sam_paine
You're whining about personal attacks?

Let's cut to the chase:

In your post 124 you stated:

"And exactly what are the two of you doing? Sitting on the sidelines criticizing?

At least Sarah Palin is speaking out. You have no idea what her family was put through and how much it cost them. Neither do I by the way. Obviously, she counted the cost and didn’t think she could pay it.

If you are so concerned about it, how about you run for President."


THAT alone turned the exchange 'personal'. You first made the assumption (hence proven wrong) that Sam and I were 'on the sidelines', then you made the childish suggestion that we 'run for President', as if ANY person could just jump right up on any given day, and fire up a presidential campaign.

The fact is, you couldn't handle anyone saying less than complimentary and praising words for Sarah Palin, and YOU responded with a personal attack, and you reaped what you sowed.

You need to lick your wounds now, and move on.
148 posted on 02/24/2012 12:42:52 PM PST by mkjessup (Romney is to conservatism what e.coli is to an all-you-can-eat salad bar. NO ROMNEY!!!)
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To: onyx; All
Keyboard warrior FRiends, take note .
It's not very wise to attack Sarah Palin on this forum.


Onyx, are you saying that Sarah Palin is IMMUNE to criticism on this forum?

Sam Paine made legitimate observations regarding her past and present activity, and I agree with him. I agree with MANY of the things that Sarah Palin has said and done, however she is not perfect, she is not flawless. There is only one Man who ever walked the Earth that was perfect, and I think we all know who Jesus Christ is, and He alone is immune to criticism as I see it.

Now the facts of the matter are that Sarah Palin had an opportunity to enter this presidential race, and who among us doubt that she could have immediately achieved front runner status? She probably would have run Romney out of the race before Florida, and the entire campaign would look vastly different than it does now.
149 posted on 02/24/2012 12:50:20 PM PST by mkjessup (Romney is to conservatism what e.coli is to an all-you-can-eat salad bar. NO ROMNEY!!!)
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To: onyx; mkjessup; sam_paine
Nice comment by JR.

What I find fascinating is two people hijacking a thread about Newt Gingrich to diss Sarah Palin, and they just keep on prattling like old wives (apologies to old wives).

Did you see that Bambi doubled down on his apologies today? Maybe we can send them some Solyndra money and they'll stop rioting........

150 posted on 02/24/2012 12:56:14 PM PST by Lakeshark (NbIttoalbl,cRwIdtaa)
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