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Hong Kong Was Better Under the British
Wall Street Journal ^ | 2/23/2012 | Hugo Restall

Posted on 02/23/2012 4:33:16 PM PST by BfloGuy

The Brits created a relatively uncorrupt and competent civil service to run the city day-to-day. "They take enormous satisfaction in minutes, protocol, proper channels, precedents," as Mr. Davies described them, "even in the red tape that binds up their files inside the neat cubby holes within their registries." Their slavish adherence to bureaucratic procedure helped create respect for the rule of law and prevented abuses of power.

Above the civil servants sat the career-grade officials appointed from London. These nabobs were often arrogant, affecting a contempt for journalists and other "unhelpful" critics. But they did respond to public opinion as transmitted through the newspapers and other channels.

Part of the reason they did was that Hong Kong officials were accountable to a democratically elected government in Britain—a government sensitive to accusations of mismanaging a colony. Still, local officials often disobeyed London when it was in the local interest—for this reason frustrated Colonial Office mandarins sometimes dubbed the city "The Republic of Hong Kong." And for many decades the city boasted a higher standard of governance than the mother country.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: better; british; hongkong
Two "life-goals" that I missed: flying on Concorde and visiting Hong Kong before the Brits turned it over to the Chi-Coms.

I'm sure it's still well worth visiting, but I'd have loved to have seen it when British rule-of-law and tradition combined with Chinese entrepreneurialism to create a wealth-creating powerhouse from a couple islands with no resources at the foot of a mountain.

1 posted on 02/23/2012 4:33:20 PM PST by BfloGuy
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To: BfloGuy
It was incongruous to see the union jack over and the queen's photo inside public buildings in such a foreign place.

But, honestly, those were the only obvious indications that the place was a colony of the crown back before 1997.

I haven't been there recently, so have no idea what changes there are.

2 posted on 02/23/2012 4:39:02 PM PST by skeeter
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To: BfloGuy

Flying the Concorde, while fast, probably wasn’t that interesting.

The windows were tiny and you couldn’t risk looking out them anyway, lest you leave skin and eye behind as the windows heated up to something like 800 degrees farenheit.

Watching the Concorde fly overhead would have been more interesting than flying I it.

But, yeah being in Hong Kong prior to it being turned over to China would have bee interesting.


3 posted on 02/23/2012 4:41:28 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: BfloGuy

I can’t speak on what it is like today, but in the early 90s, Hong Kong was a blast. I was staying in Kowloon, just off of Nathan Street - basically a five minute walk to every kind of shopping, eating, and bar you could want. Not a place where you go to learn about history or ancient culture, but a lot of fun. :-)


4 posted on 02/23/2012 4:41:48 PM PST by DemforBush (A Repo man is *always* intense!)
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To: BfloGuy
In ‘95 I ranted and raved at Thatcher and the Brits consigning Hong Kong to commie slavery.

I was an idiot. In 2012, it isn't China with a spycam on every corner. Hong Kong survived just fine. They're probably better off.

5 posted on 02/23/2012 4:49:38 PM PST by Forgotten Amendments (Sheep and insects need leaders.)
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To: BfloGuy
I'm thinking there are good reasons that Heritage Foundation ranks Hong Kong #1 in the world in economic freedom for 2012.

I had the need to research a Hong Kong tax issue not long ago. My impression (from both the written documentation and correspondence from employees there) is that the rule of law is really taken seriously there.

I'm thinking there are also valid reasons that Heritage Foundation now has the US at 10th in the world in economic freedom... and falling.

6 posted on 02/23/2012 5:01:49 PM PST by Wissa (Gone Galt)
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To: DemforBush

I took a trip from Germany to Hong Kong just before it was turned over. Had high tea at the Peninsula. Was the first place I had ever been where everyone had a cell phone, even in the subway. Got to fly into the old airport, which was an experience. Ate at the New York Steak house. Bought some gold jewelry. Should have bought a lot more.


7 posted on 02/23/2012 5:07:26 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: BfloGuy

We can thank ex-officio Pres. Jimmy Carter for giving Hong Kong to China.


8 posted on 02/23/2012 5:09:12 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: BfloGuy
Yes, and many of the old time families and those who are able, are voting with their feet and moving to Vancouver, B.C.

I recently saw "Soldier of Fortune"(1955 - three stars) with Clark Gable and Susan Hayward. Now THAT was Hong Kong.

9 posted on 02/23/2012 5:33:27 PM PST by muleskinner
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To: BfloGuy

“I’m sure it’s still well worth visiting, but I’d have loved to have seen it when British rule-of-law and tradition combined with Chinese entrepreneurialism to create a wealth-creating powerhouse from a couple islands with no resources at the foot of a mountain.”

I’d still recommend going there. Each time they have attempted a Chinese-style crackdown on the media, the people came out and stopped it. They’re still pretty much left to themselves - and as others have noted, Hong Kong is wild place to visit - totally mind-boggling. I was there for 36 hours on a two week Asian trip (just before they were ‘liberated’ from England) and that was the only place that I wanted to go back to (and still would). They just kicked butt there - whether it was food or anything else.


10 posted on 02/23/2012 6:17:09 PM PST by BobL (I don't care about his past - Santorum will BRING THE FIGHT to Obama)
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To: BfloGuy
I was in Hong Kong quite a lot in the mid '80s while stationed on the only US warship ever homeported in the Philippines, the US Sterett CG-31.

It lived up to anything anyone ever said about it.

Great shopping for loose gems, some of the best bars and clubs I have ever been in anywhere, people were friendly (for the most part), and the only place you didn't want to go by yourself was the old city.

I haven't been back since then but I hear from various people that it's still one of the best places to visit in the world.

11 posted on 02/23/2012 6:44:48 PM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: BfloGuy

I was in Hong Kong and Macau a few months back for the first time, so I can’t compare it to before they became “Special SAdministrative Regions” -— but I found the people very friendly, helpful and things ran smoothly. I sensed some apprehension from the tour guides about when, at the end of 50 years, the SAR status will terminate, and “one nation/two governments” becomes “one nation/one government”.


12 posted on 02/23/2012 6:56:08 PM PST by steelyourfaith (Expel the Occupy White House squatters !!!)
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I sensed some apprehension from the tour guides about when, at the end of 50 years, the SAR status will terminate, and “one nation/two governments” becomes “one nation/one government”.

More than the apprehension in the US about what condition America will be in after a few more decades down the path we've been headed?

13 posted on 02/23/2012 7:08:07 PM PST by Wissa (Gone Galt)
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To: muleskinner

Story by Earnest K. Gann. Great aviation and adventure writer. High and the Mighty, Island In the Sky, Fate is the Hunter and many more. Good reads. If you ever have been a pilot (or would have wished to have been one) Fate is the Hunter is a must read. Clark Gable use to drop by his home in Carmel to play chess. John Wayne was his friend as were many actors and writers of the time. Great story teller. He was also a great sailor and loved sailboats. If you love sailing try Song of the Sirens.


14 posted on 02/23/2012 7:34:10 PM PST by crabpott (' we are living in the strangest, most perilous, and unbelievable decade in modern memory' VDH)
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To: Wissa

Well, the residents of HK/Macau all have a date certain by which change will come, perhaps dramatically -— while too many Americans, I suspect, are still like the proverbial slowly boiling frog.


15 posted on 02/23/2012 7:41:18 PM PST by steelyourfaith (Expel the Occupy White House squatters !!!)
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To: Jonty30
Watching the Concorde fly overhead would have been more interesting than flying I it.

You're probably right. I worked in SW London for a few years in the late 90's and Concorde took off each morning (depending on the wind) right over my office. I was spellbound -- always was a plane nut. I think it's perhaps the most beautiful machine man ever designed (or, at least, one of.)

16 posted on 02/24/2012 2:21:21 PM PST by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: BfloGuy
As a Brit who did visit it before the lease ran out, I can testify that it was a very strange experience. Most of the population (95%+) were Han Chinese, and all the industry and enterprise and so on were down to Chinese work ethic. The public services were all very British though - the buses were British, the train system was identical to the London underground rail net (they even used the same type of turnstiles) the postal system, the building regulations, the legal syste, all the infrastructure stuff was all VERY British. It was a very strange kind of fusion.

It challenged me. I could only think how much better Britain would be if only the fundamental enterprise type culture was available to make the public service bit work as well as it really should. And similarly, how much better China would be if they could only better organise and harness their natural work ethic.

17 posted on 02/26/2012 6:36:09 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: Forgotten Amendments

I know someone who was there pre and post British administration, and she assured me that there wasn’t much immediate change, partially because the Brits negotiated various guarantees and partially because the Chicons didnt want the world to see Hong Kong fail under their control and poured a lot of resources in. However, she has now left and a main reason is that, although as you say it survived, it is not in any way better off.


18 posted on 02/26/2012 6:40:11 AM PST by Vanders9
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