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Buddy Roemer blasts both parties as 'joined at the billfold,' launches independent bid
Nola.com ^ | 2-23-12 | Jonathan Tilove

Posted on 02/23/2012 4:46:43 PM PST by Impy

WASHINGTON -- Blasting the two major parties as "joined at the billfold," former Louisiana Gov. Buddy Roemer announced Thursday that he is abandoning his bid for the Republican nomination for an independent candidacy for president.

"Last night the Republicans held their 23rd television debate. I have not been invited to a single one," said Roemer. "I am the only candidate who has been shut out by the Republican Party. Well, we're on a mission to take this country back from the powerful special interests. We are prepared to challenge both parties. Both parties are joined at the bill fold, they are just alike, they are addicted to money."

Roemer's 25-minute address was broadcast live on-line from the Santa Monica headquarters of Yowie, an Internet chat site. More than 4,300 people were on-line watching and listening to Roemer.

"We're dropping out of the Republican Party we have been a proud member for 21 years and we're becoming an independent," said Roemer. "We will pursue the Americans Elect unity ticket over the next several months." In addition to seeking the nomination of Americans Elect, a non-profit organization that is gaining ballot access in all 50 states for a ticket to be nominated on-line, Roemer also will be pursuing the nomination of the Reform Party, originally founded by Ross Perot, a move that will enable him to continue to accumulate federal matching monies.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: buddyroemer; roemer; thirdparty
He's a fan of the royal we.
1 posted on 02/23/2012 4:46:46 PM PST by Impy
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To: fieldmarshaldj; GOPsterinMA; AuH2ORepublican; Clintonfatigued; randita; BillyBoy; PhilCollins; ...

Roemer, who was by choice not raising enough money and thus was never a viable candidate has quit the GOP race.

He’ll seek to get on the ballot in November through that stupid “Americans Elect” thing and/or whatever the hell is left of the Reform party.


2 posted on 02/23/2012 4:48:09 PM PST by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Impy

Americans Elect

Soros puppet party.


3 posted on 02/23/2012 4:54:46 PM PST by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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To: Impy

Don’t be fooled by these scumbags.

“Still, many of the group’s experienced political operatives hail from centrist circles: Chief Executive Kahlil Byrd is a GOP strategist who worked for Massachusetts’ Democratic governor, Deval Patrick. Pollster Doug Schoen worked for Hillary Rodham Clinton’s Democratic presidential campaign, as well as for New York Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg, an independent.

One of the main financial backers is Elliot’s father, Peter Ackerman, a private investment executive who made tens of millions of dollars working with junk bond trader Michael Milken in the 1980s. He alone has given at least $1.55 million to Americans Elect, according to tax documents the group filed last year while it was briefly organized as a political organization. In October, it changed its designation to a 501(c)4 social welfare group, “

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-americans-elect-20110728,0,116246.story


4 posted on 02/23/2012 4:59:40 PM PST by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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To: Impy; BillyBoy

I’m still running for delegate to the Republican National Convention.

Roemer won’t be able to run, in Illinois, in the general election, since IL has a sore loser law.


5 posted on 02/23/2012 4:59:40 PM PST by PhilCollins
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I want to see Ralph Nader on the ballot again..


6 posted on 02/23/2012 5:01:24 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Impy
Think of any RINO hack or Rat loser and you probably have just named someone who is pushing this Americans Elect. It is another in a long line of worthless "moderate" groups selling ideological irrelevance, a la "No Lables".


7 posted on 02/23/2012 5:03:22 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Impy

hopefully whats left of the Reform Party will nominate a crazy lefty loon... Rosie O’Donnell?


8 posted on 02/23/2012 5:09:42 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Impy

If you look at the American Elect website and look at some of the founders you will find they have ties to OWS. I looked at the site last night and I would not be at all surprised if Obama and Soros were a part of it as well. Also on the site they have images of the candidates that were proposed and there is a picture of Obama which I felt is a bit strange since he is the incumbent.
Americans Elect is a sham


9 posted on 02/23/2012 5:14:52 PM PST by funfan (and his crew)
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To: Impy

If you look at the American Elect website and look at some of the founders you will find they have ties to OWS. I looked at the site last night and I would not be at all surprised if Obama and Soros were a part of it as well. Also on the site they have images of the candidates that were proposed and there is a picture of Obama which I felt is a bit strange since he is the incumbent.
Americans Elect is a sham


10 posted on 02/23/2012 5:15:05 PM PST by funfan (and his crew)
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To: Lazlo in PA; dynachrome; PhilCollins

Yeah I saw their website, some of them even want to back Obama. The whole thing is stupid.

It’s probably a plot to nominate someone who would hurt the Republican nominee. I hope it fails.


11 posted on 02/23/2012 5:36:39 PM PST by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Impy
I hope it fails.

Just like No Labels, it will fail miserably.

12 posted on 02/23/2012 5:42:27 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Well I never even heard of “No Labels” before, so I’d say they have indeed failed. ;D


13 posted on 02/23/2012 6:03:50 PM PST by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: D-fendr; GeronL; fieldmarshaldj

Yes Nader, I know he doesn’t like Obama.

Make it 5 elections in a row Ralph.

I hope at least that the Greens nominate someone who could do appreciable damage (even 1% would be swell).


14 posted on 02/23/2012 6:07:24 PM PST by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Impy

Sad to hear this. I know Buddy and like him a lot. I even sent him $100. He has some things to say, but 3rd Party is a awful decision.


15 posted on 02/23/2012 6:11:44 PM PST by polkajello
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To: Impy

“whatever the hell is left of the Reform party.”

Someday it might be the right time for Conservatives to jump over there and stage a coup. They’re on the ballot and get matching funds, so if we have to abandon the Republican party at some point, it would probably be a lot easier to do that than to try and start from scratch.


16 posted on 02/23/2012 6:50:46 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: PhilCollins; Impy

Phil, are you still going to vote for Roemer in the GOP primary now that he’s dropped out of the race? You could vote for another Republican candidate and still vote for yourself for delegate. Not that it matters anyway — in Illinois the votes for the delegate count and not the votes cast for the candidates themselves. Are you still in IL-10? I don’t see you on the list of IL-10 Republican delegates:

http://www.elections.il.gov/ElectionInformation/CandList.aspx?SearchType=office&ListType=RESULTS+OF+SEARCH+BY+OFFICE&ElectionID=32&ElectionType=GP&ElectionDate=3%2f20%2f2012&QueryType=DELEGATE&OfficeIDSearchType=Matches&OfficeID=5579&StatusSearchType=Matches&Status=&OrderBy=ORDER+BY+OfficeBallotGroup%2c+OfficeSequence%2c+PartySequence%2cFileDateTime%2cvwCandidates.Sequence%2c+SlateID%2cHeadOfSlate+DESC%2cvwCandidates.ID


17 posted on 02/23/2012 6:54:24 PM PST by BillyBoy (Illegals for Perry/Gingrich 2012 : Don't be "heartless"/ Be "humane")
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To: Impy
It does really annoy me when politicians pull a Bob Dole and constantly refer to themselves as "we", like they have a multiple personality disorder. Also reminds me of the godawful Ayn Rand novel I had to read in H.S. (the theme was there's no individualism in some future society... made painfully obvious by the fact EVERY single character would say stuff like "We're leaving the Republican Party. We will pursue the Americans Elect unity ticket over the next several months" )

;-)

18 posted on 02/23/2012 7:01:04 PM PST by BillyBoy (Illegals for Perry/Gingrich 2012 : Don't be "heartless"/ Be "humane")
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To: Impy

I think that about 2/3 of Reform Party members are liberal, so Roemer’s campaign might help the republican nominee. Usually, the strongest third-party presidential candidate takes votes from the incumbent party. In 2000, when we had a democrat president, Ralph Nader got almost 3% of the vote, helping Bush win. In 1992, when George H.W. Bush ran for re-election, Perot got 19%, helping Clinton win. In 1976, when Ford ran, two conservatives, the American Independent Party and Libertarian candidates got enough votes to help Carter win.


19 posted on 02/23/2012 7:01:13 PM PST by PhilCollins
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To: BillyBoy

I haven’t decided the presidential candidate for whom I’ll vote.

In the new map, the town where I’m registered, Glenview, is in the 9th Congressional District. According to the Board of Elections site, I’m running for delegate, in the 9th Dist.


20 posted on 02/23/2012 7:04:38 PM PST by PhilCollins
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To: Impy; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Impy.


21 posted on 02/24/2012 3:04:26 AM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: PhilCollins; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; Boogieman; polkajello; AuH2ORepublican; Clintonfatigued; ...
I think that about 2/3 of Reform Party members are liberal, so Roemer’s campaign might help the republican nominee.

I agree the majority of whoever the hell is left is in that party are not conservatives. But how many phone booths could they fill? Since the infighting over Pat Buchanan and the abandonment of them by Jesse Ventura they've been little more than a shell. In 2004 they backed Nader and got him only 7 ballot lines. In 2008 their unknown nominee Ted Weill who had backed John Hagelin (a quasi-leftist kook I think) in 2000 and Nader in 2004 was only on the ballot in one state, Mississippi, where he got 481 votes or 0.04%. They don't seem to have ballot access anymore, they'd have to fight to get it back and if they are indeed rather liberal, why nominate Roemer?

So he may not be on any ballots, I think these these Americans Elect People have been successful at that but he might not get their nomination. If he does get on any ballots on the Reform party line I think any votes he gets will come from supporters of his campaign (mostly conservatives who would vote GOP or Constitution party or stay home if he's not on the ballot) more than anyone with alleignce to the Reform party label who may vote for Obama otherwise, I bet the latter group makes the former seem large in comparison. The Reform party looks all but dead to me.

Any way you slice it I think Roemer will have zero impact on November. Virgil Goode and Gary Johnson are much bigger threats though I'm hopeful they won't come close to making the difference despite being former high elected officials. Bob Barr didn't do very well in 2008 for the Libertarians but he helped Obama win NC and IN with less than 50%.

In 1976, when Ford ran, two conservatives, the American Independent Party and Libertarian candidates got enough votes to help Carter win.

And Liberal Eugene McCarthy got way more votes than both of them combined, almost enough to help Ford win, he cost Carter Oregon, Maine, Iowa and Oklahoma (provided enough of his voters wouldn't have stayed home rather than vote for Carter). Though of course with knowledge of what came next it's a good thing Ford lost , a RINO President with a 60% democrat Congress in 1977 would have meant no Reagan with a GOP Senate and approachable House in 1981.

22 posted on 02/24/2012 3:54:00 AM PST by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: BillyBoy; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj
I understand the use of the "editorial we" but I feel it's not appropriate in the context that Roemer was using it, unless he had a pet mouse in his pocket who is also leaving the Republican party. He's not the King of England circa 15something.

And when Bill O'Reilly says "Talking points believes that.....", forget about it. ;d He explained once that he thought it would sound more pompous if he just said "I believe". He's wrong.

23 posted on 02/24/2012 4:07:30 AM PST by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Impy; BillyBoy

I think that the Reform Party will probably nominate Gov. Roemer because they think that he’ll appeal to liberals, conservatives, and moderates. I agree that he’ll have little effect the general election. He’ll get 200,000-250,000 votes, and slightly more than half of them will be Democrats.


24 posted on 02/24/2012 7:48:31 AM PST by PhilCollins
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To: PhilCollins; Impy; BillyBoy

I was probably incorrect, when I said that Gov. Roemer can’t run, in Illinois, because of the “sore loser” law, according to an employee, of the IL Board of Elections.

IL law 10 ILCS 5/10-2 states, “….A candidate for whom a nomination paper has been filed as a partisan candidate at a primary election, and who is defeated for his or her nomination at the primary election, is ineligible for nomination as a candidate of a new political party for election in that general election.
(Source: P.A. 86-875.)”

President is a little different, in that they are not actually nominated until the convention (after the filing period for new party candidates). I’m not sure by “losing” IL that law would “kick-in” or not. Anything could be objectionable, when someone files for office. Gathering over 25,000 signatures is a monumental task for candidates.”


25 posted on 02/24/2012 9:35:05 AM PST by PhilCollins
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To: PhilCollins; Impy
Since Buddy Roemer is no longer seeking the Republican nomination for President, I've removed his name from the list of the 2012 Republican candidates for President in Worth Twp. (Rick Perry is also on the IL ballot but doesn't appear on list of candidates for the same reason)

In IL's 3rd Congressional district, Rich Grabowski did a little research and discovered his "Republican" primary opponent, Jim Falvey, pulled a DEMOCRAT primary ballot in 1994, 1998, 2000, 2002, 2004, and 2008. This means Rich is the only genuine Repulican running against Lipinski. Falvey is a closet Democrat, and Art Jones is a neo-NAZI nut and holocaust denier who hangs out with Cindy Sheehan.

http://www.worthgop.org/candidates.aspx

I've endorsed Santorum for President, I hope Phil will consider supporting Santorum as well now that Roemer has dropped out.

Other Illinois conservatives that have endorsed Santorum include Eric & Jennifer Wallace, Gina Danaher, Karen Hayes, Sandra Czyznikiewicz, David E. Smith, Rich & Jacqueline Grabowski, Carrie Miller, Ed Southwell, Penny Pullen, Joe Hedrick, Charlene Foss-Eggeman, Lisa Smith, Tony Raymond, Bonnie & Jim Quirke, Dan Sugrue, Sharee & Michael Lagenstein, Al & Kathy Salvi,Sheila Devall,Pamela Snow, Irene Napier, Terry Hunt, Loren Heal, Chris Arndt, Jill Stanek, Earl Gough, Jon Zahm, and Liz Eilers.

26 posted on 02/24/2012 1:30:08 PM PST by BillyBoy (Illegals for Perry/Gingrich 2012 : Don't be "heartless"/ Be "humane")
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To: BillyBoy; Impy

I’ll decide, on March 8 (my birthday) whom I hope will win the Illinois republican presidential primary.


27 posted on 02/24/2012 3:11:47 PM PST by PhilCollins
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To: PhilCollins

Happy birthday FRiend!

Reached a decision?


28 posted on 03/08/2012 5:10:05 PM PST by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Impy

I haven’t decided whom I hope will win the republican nomination, but I hope that Rep. Paul will win the majority of the delegates, from the March primaries and caucuses, since he’s the candidate who has the fewest delegates. I hope that, when the Republican National Convention starts, no one will have the majority of the delegates. If that happens, the convention will be more suspenseful and exciting, causing more people to watch and hear the great republican ideas.


29 posted on 03/09/2012 4:33:12 AM PST by PhilCollins
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